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but it's not going to be installed

Started bymick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com>
First post2019-04-15 21:50 +0200
Last post2019-04-16 15:40 +0200
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  but it's not going to be installed mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2019-04-15 21:50 +0200
    Re: but it's not going to be installed Cindy Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2019-04-15 22:10 +0200
      Re: but it's not going to be installed mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2019-04-15 22:30 +0200
      Re: but it's not going to be installed mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2019-04-16 09:40 +0200
      Re: but it's not going to be installed Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-04-16 10:00 +0200
    Re: but it's not going to be installed Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2019-04-16 09:50 +0200
      Re: but it's not going to be installed mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2019-04-16 11:20 +0200
        Re: but it's not going to be installed Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2019-04-16 15:40 +0200

#207520 — but it's not going to be installed

Frommick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com>
Date2019-04-15 21:50 +0200
Subjectbut it's not going to be installed
Message-ID<xNfM5-7Qy-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
I typed
"apt install mypaint"
mypaint depends on mypaint-data but it's not going to be installed
seen that mypaint-data was there so
"apt install mypaint-data"
...installs OK
"apt install mypaint"
no complaints
what's that all about then ?

mick

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#207522

FromCindy Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com>
Date2019-04-15 22:10 +0200
Message-ID<xNg5r-8d1-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#207520
On 4/15/19, mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> wrote:
> I typed
> "apt install mypaint"
> mypaint depends on mypaint-data but it's not going to be installed
> seen that mypaint-data was there so
> "apt install mypaint-data"
> ...installs OK
> "apt install mypaint"
> no complaints
> what's that all about then ?


Apparently for one thing, it's about some kind of package
conflicts'ISH with GIMP GNU Image Manipulation Program. Via "apt-get
install --dry-run" mypaint-data, I received the following:

The following packages will be REMOVED:
  gimp gimp-ufraw libmypaint-1.3-0 libmypaint-common
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  mypaint-data
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 4 to remove and [yada-yada large
packages] not upgraded.

If you didn't have GIMP installed, that wouldn't have hit your radar.

Speaking as a GIMP fan nearly since their first days, OUCH!! :)

Cindy :)
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#207523

Frommick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com>
Date2019-04-15 22:30 +0200
Message-ID<xNgoO-8nL-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#207522
On 2019-04-15 21:00, Cindy Sue Causey wrote:
> On 4/15/19, mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I typed
>> "apt install mypaint"
>> mypaint depends on mypaint-data but it's not going to be installed
>> seen that mypaint-data was there so
>> "apt install mypaint-data"
>> ...installs OK
>> "apt install mypaint"
>> no complaints
>> what's that all about then ?
> 
> 
> Apparently for one thing, it's about some kind of package
> conflicts'ISH with GIMP GNU Image Manipulation Program. Via "apt-get
> install --dry-run" mypaint-data, I received the following:
> 
> The following packages will be REMOVED:
>   gimp gimp-ufraw libmypaint-1.3-0 libmypaint-common
> The following NEW packages will be installed:
>   mypaint-data
> 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 4 to remove and [yada-yada large
> packages] not upgraded.
> 
> If you didn't have GIMP installed, that wouldn't have hit your radar.
> 
> Speaking as a GIMP fan nearly since their first days, OUCH!! :)
> 
> Cindy :)

Ah Ok, I do have gimp installed but wanted to try mypaint, didn't notice 
any warning about gimp. I guess it'll put itself back together.
Suppose apt thought well they asked, I'll install it.
might use --dry-run in future.
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#207533

Frommick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com>
Date2019-04-16 09:40 +0200
Message-ID<xNqRc-6n7-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#207522
On 2019-04-15 21:00, Cindy Sue Causey wrote:
> On 4/15/19, mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I typed
>> "apt install mypaint"
>> mypaint depends on mypaint-data but it's not going to be installed
>> seen that mypaint-data was there so
>> "apt install mypaint-data"
>> ...installs OK
>> "apt install mypaint"
>> no complaints
>> what's that all about then ?
> 
> 
> Apparently for one thing, it's about some kind of package
> conflicts'ISH with GIMP GNU Image Manipulation Program. Via "apt-get
> install --dry-run" mypaint-data, I received the following:
> 
> The following packages will be REMOVED:
>   gimp gimp-ufraw libmypaint-1.3-0 libmypaint-common
> The following NEW packages will be installed:
>   mypaint-data
> 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 4 to remove and [yada-yada large
> packages] not upgraded.
> 
> If you didn't have GIMP installed, that wouldn't have hit your radar.
> 
> Speaking as a GIMP fan nearly since their first days, OUCH!! :)
> 
> Cindy :)
apt put it back together, thanks for doing that, reassuring as to what 
went.
there's a windows version of mypaint so I'll play with that.
mick
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#207537

FromCurt <curty@free.fr>
Date2019-04-16 10:00 +0200
Message-ID<xNrax-6tV-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#207522
On 2019-04-15, Cindy Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> wrote:

> Apparently for one thing, it's about some kind of package
> conflicts'ISH with GIMP GNU Image Manipulation Program. Via "apt-get
> install --dry-run" mypaint-data, I received the following:
>

There is this year-old bug:

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=897909

No problem on Stretch, so you and the OP must be running something else
(a critical precision for problem resolution---maybe I missed it).

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#207534

FromJonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org>
Date2019-04-16 09:50 +0200
Message-ID<xNr0R-6qy-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#207520
On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 08:45:09PM +0100, mick crane wrote:
>I typed
>"apt install mypaint"
>mypaint depends on mypaint-data but it's not going to be installed
>seen that mypaint-data was there so
>"apt install mypaint-data"
>...installs OK
>"apt install mypaint"
>no complaints
>what's that all about then ?

This is normally due to Apt having multiple Debian suites to choose from
(e.g. stable and unstable) but having preferences and/or "pinning" set up
so that it does not want to install the dependencies of mypaint.

The approach you took (manually select mypaint-data) works, and could have
been done on the same command (apt install mypaint mypaint-data).

If you would like to investigate further, can you share the output of
"apt policy"?

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#207544

Frommick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com>
Date2019-04-16 11:20 +0200
Message-ID<xNspY-7qa-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#207534
On 2019-04-16 08:39, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 08:45:09PM +0100, mick crane wrote:
>> I typed
>> "apt install mypaint"
>> mypaint depends on mypaint-data but it's not going to be installed
>> seen that mypaint-data was there so
>> "apt install mypaint-data"
>> ...installs OK
>> "apt install mypaint"
>> no complaints
>> what's that all about then ?
> 
> This is normally due to Apt having multiple Debian suites to choose 
> from
> (e.g. stable and unstable) but having preferences and/or "pinning" set 
> up
> so that it does not want to install the dependencies of mypaint.
> 
> The approach you took (manually select mypaint-data) works, and could 
> have
> been done on the same command (apt install mypaint mypaint-data).
> 
> If you would like to investigate further, can you share the output of
> "apt policy"?

would the brave-apt stretch line cause problems with software other than 
brave browser which I don't really use ?
:~$ apt policy
Package files:
  100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
      release a=now
  500 https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/brave-apt stretch/main amd64 
Packages
      release o=. stretch,a=stretch,n=stretch,l=. stretch,c=main,b=amd64
      origin s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com
  500 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster/contrib i386 Packages
      release o=Debian,a=testing,n=buster,l=Debian,c=contrib,b=i386
      origin deb.debian.org
  500 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster/contrib amd64 Packages
      release o=Debian,a=testing,n=buster,l=Debian,c=contrib,b=amd64
      origin deb.debian.org
  500 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster/main i386 Packages
      release o=Debian,a=testing,n=buster,l=Debian,c=main,b=i386
      origin deb.debian.org
  500 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster/main amd64 Packages
      release o=Debian,a=testing,n=buster,l=Debian,c=main,b=amd64
      origin deb.debian.org
Pinned packages:

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#207555

FromJonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org>
Date2019-04-16 15:40 +0200
Message-ID<xNwtz-1p4-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#207544
On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 10:12:47AM +0100, mick crane wrote:
>would the brave-apt stretch line cause problems with software other 
>than brave browser which I don't really use ?

No it's very unlikely. It's possible that the particular Brave repository you
have configured there (Brave stretch) could depend upon versions of packages in
stretch rather than the newer Buster, which you are otherwise using
consistently, which might prevent their upgrade. But I don't think that's what
has happened for your mypaint case, Curt's bug
(https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=897909) is the more
likely explanation.

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