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Re: just mail forwarding to smart mailer

Started by황병희 <soyeomul@red-october.yw.doraji.xyz>
First post2019-04-14 15:20 +0200
Last post2019-04-17 11:20 +0200
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  Re: just mail forwarding to smart mailer 황병희 <soyeomul@red-october.yw.doraji.xyz> - 2019-04-14 15:20 +0200
    Re: just mail forwarding to smart mailer Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2019-04-16 15:20 +0200
      Re: just mail forwarding to smart mailer Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2019-04-16 16:50 +0200
      RE: just mail forwarding to smart mailer Bonno Bloksma <b.bloksma@tio.nl> - 2019-04-17 06:30 +0200
      Re: just mail forwarding to smart mailer Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-04-17 11:20 +0200

#207445 — Re: just mail forwarding to smart mailer

From황병희 <soyeomul@red-october.yw.doraji.xyz>
Date2019-04-14 15:20 +0200
SubjectRe: just mail forwarding to smart mailer
Message-ID<xMNd7-7fS-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
> I am looking for an "easy light weight just empty the local queue and

Very very very easy thing: https://wiki.debian.org/sSMTP

Sincerely, Byung-Hee from South Korea.

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#207552

FromCelejar <celejar@gmail.com>
Date2019-04-16 15:20 +0200
Message-ID<xNwae-1iF-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#207445
On Sun, 14 Apr 2019 22:17:44 +0900
황병희 <soyeomul@red-october.yw.doraji.xyz> wrote:

> > I am looking for an "easy light weight just empty the local queue and
> 
> Very very very easy thing: https://wiki.debian.org/sSMTP

Note that sSMTP does not perform server certificate verification, thus
allowing, e.g., credential stealing via MITM attacks. Furthermore, it
neglects to document this failing, although we're working on this ;)

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=662960

Celejar

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#207560

FromCelejar <celejar@gmail.com>
Date2019-04-16 16:50 +0200
Message-ID<xNxzj-22A-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#207552
On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 13:53:05 +0000
Bonno Bloksma <b.bloksma@tio.nl> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> >> > I am looking for an "easy light weight just empty the local queue 
> >> > and very very very easy thing: https://wiki.debian.org/sSMTP
> >
> > Note that sSMTP does not perform server certificate verification, thus allowing, e.g., credential stealing via MITM attacks. Furthermore, it neglects to document this failing, although we're working on this ;)
> >
> 
> That is not a problem for me, all mail traffic will be inside out own LAN.
> The wiki has very little info. Like, if it is not a daemon then how does the mail even leave the system? When will the program become active to send the mail to the smarthost?

I'm not sure what you mean by "empty the local queue". The way ssmtp
works is that programs (e.g., the cron daemon) that want to send
mail invoke ssmtp via the 'sendmail' command (which smtp provides a
version of).

> Where can I find more info? It seems this might be my lightweight solution. Using Google for ssmtp gives mostly links to secure smtp.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/SSMTP
https://www.linux.com/news/ssmtp-simple-alternative-sendmail
https://www.techrepublic.com/blog/it-security/use-ssmtp-to-send-e-mail-simply-and-securely/

> Bonno Bloksma

Celejar

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#207613

FromBonno Bloksma <b.bloksma@tio.nl>
Date2019-04-17 06:30 +0200
Message-ID<xNKmR-1Gk-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#207552
Hi,

>> > I am looking for an "easy light weight just empty the local queue 
>> > and very very very easy thing: https://wiki.debian.org/sSMTP
>
> Note that sSMTP does not perform server certificate verification, thus allowing, e.g., credential stealing via MITM attacks. Furthermore, it neglects to document this failing, although we're working on this ;)
>

That is not a problem for me, all mail traffic will be inside out own LAN.
The wiki has very little info. Like, if it is not a daemon then how does the mail even leave the system? When will the program become active to send the mail to the smarthost?
Where can I find more info? It seems this might be my lightweight solution. Using Google for ssmtp gives mostly links to secure smtp.

Bonno Bloksma

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#207631

FromCurt <curty@free.fr>
Date2019-04-17 11:20 +0200
Message-ID<xNOTv-4x8-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#207552
On 2019-04-16, Bonno Bloksma <b.bloksma@tio.nl> wrote:
> Hi,
>
>>> > I am looking for an "easy light weight just empty the local queue 
>>> > and very very very easy thing: https://wiki.debian.org/sSMTP
>>
>> Note that sSMTP does not perform server certificate verification, thus allowing, e.g., credential stealing via MITM attacks. Furthermore, it neglects to document this failing, although we're working on this ;)
>>
>
> That is not a problem for me, all mail traffic will be inside out own LAN.
> The wiki has very little info. Like, if it is not a daemon then how does the mail even leave the system? When will the program become active to send the mail to the smarthost?

ssmtp seems more a lightweight solution for handing off email to an
*external* smarthost. There is no local queue or daemon.

Maybe for your lan-only case opensmtpd might be the ticket.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/OpenSMTPD

> Where can I find more info? It seems this might be my lightweight solution. Using Google for ssmtp gives mostly links to secure smtp.
>
> Bonno Bloksma
>


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