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Re: Getting amd64 stretch netinstall to work.

Started bybw <bwtnguy@yahoo.com>
First post2019-04-04 17:50 +0200
Last post2019-04-05 20:10 +0200
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  Re: Getting amd64 stretch netinstall to work. bw <bwtnguy@yahoo.com> - 2019-04-04 17:50 +0200
    Re: Getting amd64 stretch netinstall to work. Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2019-04-04 20:30 +0200
    Re: Getting amd64 stretch netinstall to work. Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-04-04 21:10 +0200
      Re: "fatal" screen blanking (was: Getting amd64 stretch netinstall to  work) Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2019-04-05 10:20 +0200
        Re: "fatal" screen blanking (was: Getting amd64 stretch netinstall to work) Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-04-05 12:10 +0200
          Re: "fatal" screen blanking Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2019-04-05 15:10 +0200
            Re: "fatal" screen blanking Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-04-05 20:10 +0200

#206964 — Re: Getting amd64 stretch netinstall to work.

Frombw <bwtnguy@yahoo.com>
Date2019-04-04 17:50 +0200
SubjectRe: Getting amd64 stretch netinstall to work.
Message-ID<xJcMN-389-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In-Reply-To: <201904041039.19463.gheskett@shentel.net>

>So how _exactly_ do I make the installer take what it finds, format it, 
>and just get on with it?

You can't.  Part of manual partitioning step is selecting the mountpoints 
and it has to be done by someone.  How would you expect the installer to 
know what partition is for / or /home/ or /var or whatever?

I guess you could do some kind of preseed script, but that's beyond me, 
and doesn't sound like what you want.

Try the guide much?
https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch06s03.html.en#di-partition

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#206978

FromFelix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net>
Date2019-04-04 20:30 +0200
Message-ID<xJfhD-4KC-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#206964
bw composed on 2019-04-04 11:24 (UTC-0400):

> Try the guide much?
> https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch06s03.html.en#di-partition

It lacks the screenshots that are key to understanding existing partition utilization.
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#206983

FromGene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date2019-04-04 21:10 +0200
Message-ID<xJfUl-5ei-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#206964
On Thursday 04 April 2019 11:24:24 bw wrote:

> In-Reply-To: <201904041039.19463.gheskett@shentel.net>
>
> >So how _exactly_ do I make the installer take what it finds, format
> > it, and just get on with it?
>
> You can't.  Part of manual partitioning step is selecting the
> mountpoints and it has to be done by someone.  How would you expect
> the installer to know what partition is for / or /home/ or /var or
> whatever?
>
If the disks partitions have been labeled, that removes that excuse, and 
they were.

But, to get current, adding a 300 meg /boot partition solved that 
problem.  And many of the remaining problems aren't showstoppers except 
for one. I had mc copying some  of my data from the deb7 drive to this 
one, but I had other things to do and left mc running but sitting idle 
while I attended to the washing machine and walked to the mailbox to get 
todays mail.  On returning, the screen  had been blanked. Nothing on the 
keyboard or mouse would unblank it, and I had to resort to the reset 
button.

TDE-trinity is now installed and was rebooted to at the time. No 
screenblanker gfx had yet been assigned, nor had an "xset -q" been run 
to see what the defaults might have been. So I am rebooted back to 
wheezy pending advice on what to do about this as I don't expect to have 
to reset & reboot the machine everytime I walk away for ten minutes.

Hopefully someone else has encountered this and knows the fix.

Thanks.


> I guess you could do some kind of preseed script, but that's beyond
> me, and doesn't sound like what you want.
>
> Try the guide much?
> https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch06s03.html.en#di-partit
>ion

Didn't know it existed.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#207003 — Re: "fatal" screen blanking (was: Getting amd64 stretch netinstall to work)

FromFelix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net>
Date2019-04-05 10:20 +0200
SubjectRe: "fatal" screen blanking (was: Getting amd64 stretch netinstall to work)
Message-ID<xJseR-4yX-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#206983
Gene Heskett composed on 2019-04-04 15:09 (UTC-0400):

> ...I had other things to do and left mc running but sitting idle 
> while I attended to the washing machine and walked to the mailbox to get 
> todays mail.  On returning, the screen  had been blanked. Nothing on the 
> keyboard or mouse would unblank it, and I had to resort to the reset 
> button.

> TDE-trinity is now installed and was rebooted to at the time. No 
> screenblanker gfx had yet been assigned, nor had an "xset -q" been run 
> to see what the defaults might have been. So I am rebooted back to 
> wheezy pending advice on what to do about this as I don't expect to have 
> to reset & reboot the machine everytime I walk away for ten minutes.

> Hopefully someone else has encountered this and knows the fix.

Were you running MC in TDE? Have you set its screen power save to maximum 120
minutes (as I do)?

Have you tried booting with consoleblank=0 on kernel cmdline?

Have you tried anything like xorg.conf for dpms? e.g.

/etc/xorg.conf.d/50-monitor.conf:

	Section "Monitor"
	    Identifier "DefaultMonitor"
		Option	"DPMS"	"off"
	EndSection

Have you tried setting BIOS suspend mode to S1 instead of (typical default) S3?
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Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science.

 Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

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#207008 — Re: "fatal" screen blanking (was: Getting amd64 stretch netinstall to work)

FromGene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date2019-04-05 12:10 +0200
SubjectRe: "fatal" screen blanking (was: Getting amd64 stretch netinstall to work)
Message-ID<xJtXk-5G8-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#207003
On Friday 05 April 2019 04:09:55 Felix Miata wrote:

> Gene Heskett composed on 2019-04-04 15:09 (UTC-0400):
> > ...I had other things to do and left mc running but sitting idle
> > while I attended to the washing machine and walked to the mailbox to
> > get todays mail.  On returning, the screen  had been blanked.
> > Nothing on the keyboard or mouse would unblank it, and I had to
> > resort to the reset button.
> >
> > TDE-trinity is now installed and was rebooted to at the time. No
> > screenblanker gfx had yet been assigned, nor had an "xset -q" been
> > run to see what the defaults might have been. So I am rebooted back
> > to wheezy pending advice on what to do about this as I don't expect
> > to have to reset & reboot the machine everytime I walk away for ten
> > minutes.
> >
> > Hopefully someone else has encountered this and knows the fix.
>
> Were you running MC in TDE? Have you set its screen power save to
> maximum 120 minutes (as I do)?
>
MC has no such option.  TDE I haven't checked yet. But PI sure wouldn't 
think its defaults would be such a disaster.

> Have you tried booting with consoleblank=0 on kernel cmdline?
No, never had to before.

> Have you tried anything like xorg.conf for dpms? e.g.

The monitor was not turned off, just blanked with a blinking cursor.  And 
no response from the keyboard or mouse, as if the wireless usb rx 
dongles had all been turned off. That left the reset button which 
rebooted it of course.
>
> /etc/xorg.conf.d/50-monitor.conf:
>
> 	Section "Monitor"
> 	    Identifier "DefaultMonitor"
> 		Option	"DPMS"	"off"
> 	EndSection

I'll look the next time I reboot to it.

> Have you tried setting BIOS suspend mode to S1 instead of (typical
> default) S3?

I have never played with that as it runs 24/7. Not even sure I could find 
it in the bios. And I don't even know the diff between S1 and S3.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#207026 — Re: "fatal" screen blanking

FromFelix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net>
Date2019-04-05 15:10 +0200
SubjectRe: "fatal" screen blanking
Message-ID<xJwLv-7pA-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#207008
Gene Heskett composed on 2019-04-05 06:03 (UTC-0400):

> On Friday 05 April 2019 04:09:55 Felix Miata wrote:

>> Were you running MC in TDE? Have you set its screen power save to
>> maximum 120 minutes (as I do)?

> MC has no such option.  TDE I haven't checked yet. But PI sure wouldn't 
> think its defaults would be such a disaster
I didn't mean MC has any blanking option. I meant starting TDE session, then
in Konsole or directly opening MC.

>> Have you tried anything like xorg.conf for dpms? e.g.

> The monitor was not turned off, just blanked with a blinking cursor.  And 
> no response from the keyboard or mouse, as if the wireless usb rx 
> dongles had all been turned off. 

When this happens to me, I first check for freeze by toggling NUM. Next I
unplug and replug mouse and try again. Wireless I don't routinely use for
anything. My hands are glitchy enough without glitchy wireless mice to
compound poor pointer control.
-- 
Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science.

 Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

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#207043 — Re: "fatal" screen blanking

FromGene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date2019-04-05 20:10 +0200
SubjectRe: "fatal" screen blanking
Message-ID<xJBrQ-1RQ-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#207026
On Friday 05 April 2019 09:08:33 Felix Miata wrote:

> Gene Heskett composed on 2019-04-05 06:03 (UTC-0400):
> > On Friday 05 April 2019 04:09:55 Felix Miata wrote:
> >> Were you running MC in TDE? Have you set its screen power save to
> >> maximum 120 minutes (as I do)?
> >
> > MC has no such option.  TDE I haven't checked yet. But PI sure
> > wouldn't think its defaults would be such a disaster
>
> I didn't mean MC has any blanking option. I meant starting TDE
> session, then in Konsole or directly opening MC.
>
> >> Have you tried anything like xorg.conf for dpms? e.g.
> >
> > The monitor was not turned off, just blanked with a blinking cursor.
> >  And no response from the keyboard or mouse, as if the wireless usb
> > rx dongles had all been turned off.
>
> When this happens to me, I first check for freeze by toggling NUM.

Hadn't thought of that, no tally for that on a log. K-360 but caps lock 
doesn't enable/disable that indicator. AIUI, that keystroke goes to the 
computer, and the led on off comes back. So my assumption is that usb is 
disabled when blanked. But since I have the blinking underline cursor, I 
wouldn't call it blanked either. But since its only happened twice, and 
I finally got twm to run the windows instead of lightdm running xfce4, 
it may not happen again.

> Next I unplug and replug mouse and try again. Wireless I don't
> routinely use for anything. My hands are glitchy enough without
> glitchy wireless mice to compound poor pointer control.

My usb dongles are on the end of an extention cable, within a 10cm  of 
both the keyboard and the mouse, Poor pointer control is not a problem. 
Keeping batteries in the mouse is. And getting ancient fingers to hit 
the correct keys is the biggest problem by far. :)

I do use a lot of usb here but thats the extent of usb+wireless. I even 
have all the radios turned off due to a neighbor's cell phone that can 
hack into an active radio and use 80gb of my bandwidth a month, and do 
it 2 seconds after I enable the radio, but I do enable the radios so my 
visiting boys can use their $800 cell phones while visiting.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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