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Has anybody run into problems setting noatime for the executable files on a Wheezy system (or any newer system)?

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First post2019-04-04 01:50 +0200
Last post2019-04-04 12:40 +0200
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  Has anybody run into problems setting noatime for the executable files on a Wheezy system (or any newer system)? rhkramer@gmail.com - 2019-04-04 01:50 +0200
    Re: Has anybody run into problems setting noatime for the executable  files on a Wheezy system (or any newer system)? David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2019-04-04 02:10 +0200
    Re: Has anybody run into problems setting noatime for the executable files on a Wheezy system (or any newer system)? Stefan Krusche <linux@stefan-krusche.de> - 2019-04-04 12:40 +0200

#206937 — Has anybody run into problems setting noatime for the executable files on a Wheezy system (or any newer system)?

Fromrhkramer@gmail.com
Date2019-04-04 01:50 +0200
SubjectHas anybody run into problems setting noatime for the executable files on a Wheezy system (or any newer system)?
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I'd like to set noatime (instead of relatime) for all of the partitions on my 
SSD, which basically includes all the executables (except for a few I've 
written myself and keep in a separate top level directory on my HDD).  

I've seen a statement some where that one needs to be careful about setting 
noatime for executables because -- well I don't remember the reason well 
enough to repeat it correctly here, something to do with some executables 
checking the atime (I guess) on their files (or files they use).

If anybody is still running Wheezy and has tried setting noatime for most of 
the exectables, did you run into any problems?

How about anybody running Jessie or anything newer?

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#206938 — Re: Has anybody run into problems setting noatime for the executable files on a Wheezy system (or any newer system)?

FromDavid Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com>
Date2019-04-04 02:10 +0200
SubjectRe: Has anybody run into problems setting noatime for the executable files on a Wheezy system (or any newer system)?
Message-ID<xIY77-2EE-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#206937
On 4/3/19 4:40 PM, rhkramer@gmail.com wrote:
> I'd like to set noatime (instead of relatime) for all of the partitions on my
> SSD, which basically includes all the executables (except for a few I've
> written myself and keep in a separate top level directory on my HDD).
> 
> I've seen a statement some where that one needs to be careful about setting
> noatime for executables because -- well I don't remember the reason well
> enough to repeat it correctly here, something to do with some executables
> checking the atime (I guess) on their files (or files they use).
> 
> If anybody is still running Wheezy and has tried setting noatime for most of
> the exectables, did you run into any problems?
> 
> How about anybody running Jessie or anything newer?

It is my understanding that the warning pertains to data files of 
programs that look at atime -- mutt(1) is the often-cited example.  STFW 
some people also warn about tmpwatch(8) and (unnamed) backup programs:

 
https://serverfault.com/questions/199697/turning-off-atime-on-a-filesystem


David

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FromStefan Krusche <linux@stefan-krusche.de>
Date2019-04-04 12:40 +0200
Message-ID<xJ7WN-bb-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#206937
Am Donnerstag, 4. April 2019 schrieb rhkramer@gmail.com:
> I'd like to set noatime (instead of relatime) for all of the
> partitions on my SSD, which basically includes all the executables
> (except for a few I've written myself and keep in a separate top
> level directory on my HDD).
>
> I've seen a statement some where that one needs to be careful about
> setting noatime for executables because -- well I don't remember the
> reason well enough to repeat it correctly here, something to do with
> some executables checking the atime (I guess) on their files (or
> files they use).
>
> If anybody is still running Wheezy and has tried setting noatime for
> most of the exectables, did you run into any problems?
>
> How about anybody running Jessie or anything newer?

I'm running Debian/Devuan on SSD since June 2018 with all partitions
flagged 'noatime' but /boot (ext2).  No problems so far that I have
noticed.

HTH

Kind Regards,
Stefan

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