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Question about jessie

Started byCédric Devillers <cd.laria@free.fr>
First post2019-04-01 10:50 +0200
Last post2019-04-02 09:10 +0200
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  Question about jessie Cédric Devillers <cd.laria@free.fr> - 2019-04-01 10:50 +0200
    Re: Question about jessie Pierre Fourès <pierre.foures@gmail.com> - 2019-04-01 14:30 +0200
      FAQ: Jessie Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2019-04-01 14:40 +0200
      Re: Question about jessie Cédric Devillers <cd.laria@free.fr> - 2019-04-02 09:10 +0200

#206858 — Question about jessie

FromCédric Devillers <cd.laria@free.fr>
Date2019-04-01 10:50 +0200
SubjectQuestion about jessie
Message-ID<xI0NH-8ed-3@gated-at.bofh.it>

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Hello,

just a quick question about Jessie.

In recent days, the directories jessie-backports and jessie-updates have 
been removed from the main repositories.
jessie-backports is now available on the site "archive" and 
jessie-updates has totally disappeared.
The jessie distribution is supposed to be in LTS until 2020.
What is the reason for these directory movements? Is this normal?
In addition, the directory jessie-backports is indicated as expired 
(InRelease).

Thank you in advance for the information you can provide me about it.

Regards,

CD

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#206867

FromPierre Fourès <pierre.foures@gmail.com>
Date2019-04-01 14:30 +0200
Message-ID<xI4eB-1Vs-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#206858
Hello,

I have been wondering about the same question in the latest days and
here is some of the gathering.

The jessie-backports are deprecated since July 2018 as stated in this
message [1]. They are not part of the LTS, as stated in [2] in section
« Deprecation of LTS support for backports ». Thus, they are not
updated since July 2018. This has to be taken in consideration as no
security updates will be provided to theses packages. LTS is for the
vanilla Jessie.

The repository jessie-updates/ is of no use while in the LTS. All
changes has been merged in Jessie's point-release 8.11. But mind you,
I personally didn't understood well the meaning of jessie-updates (in
combinaison with jessie-proposed-updates). I formulated my new
understanding in [3] and Adam confirmed it in [4].

You can read the discussions about all that mainly in theses three
threads [5] [6] [7]. This will provide you more information about the
situation.

Regards,
Pierre.

[1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-backports-announce/2018/07/msg00000.html
[2] https://backports.debian.org/
[3] https://lists.debian.org/debian-lts/2019/03/msg00142.html
[4] https://lists.debian.org/debian-lts/2019/03/msg00153.html
[5] https://lists.debian.org/debian-lts/2019/03/msg00117.html
[6] https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2019/03/msg00765.html
[7] https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2019/03/msg00775.html

Le lun. 1 avr. 2019 à 10:40, Cédric Devillers <cd.laria@free.fr> a écrit :
>
> Hello,
>
> just a quick question about Jessie.
>
> In recent days, the directories jessie-backports and jessie-updates have been removed from the main repositories.
> jessie-backports is now available on the site "archive" and jessie-updates has totally disappeared.
> The jessie distribution is supposed to be in LTS until 2020.
> What is the reason for these directory movements? Is this normal?
> In addition, the directory jessie-backports is indicated as expired (InRelease).
>
> Thank you in advance for the information you can provide me about it.
>
> Regards,
>
>      CD

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#206870 — FAQ: Jessie

FromDan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org>
Date2019-04-01 14:40 +0200
SubjectFAQ: Jessie
Message-ID<xI4oh-1YD-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#206867

There have been a lot of questions about jessie,
jessie-backports and jessie-updates.

Answers are here:
https://www.lucas-nussbaum.net/blog/?p=947


Summary from the end:

----
The jessie-backports suite was archived on archive.debian.org,
so you can use:

deb http://archive.debian.org/debian/ jessie-backports main contrib non-free

deb-src http://archive.debian.org/debian/ jessie-backports main contrib non-free

But then you will run into another issue:

E: Release file for
http://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie-backports/InRelease
is expired (invalid since 36d 1h 9min 51s). Updates for this
repository will not be applied.

Unfortunately, with the APT version in jessie, this cannot be
ignored on a per source basis (it can with the APT version from
stretch, using the deb [check-valid-until=no] ... syntax). So
you need to disable this check globally, using:

echo 'Acquire::Check-Valid-Until no;' > /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/99no-check-valid-until

After that, apt-get update just works.

----

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#206894

FromCédric Devillers <cd.laria@free.fr>
Date2019-04-02 09:10 +0200
Message-ID<xIlIt-4td-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
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Hello,

thank you very much for these answers.
I had not seen the previous posts.

Regards,

CD

Le 01/04/2019 à 14:23, Pierre Fourès a écrit :
> Hello,
>
> I have been wondering about the same question in the latest days and
> here is some of the gathering.
>
> The jessie-backports are deprecated since July 2018 as stated in this
> message [1]. They are not part of the LTS, as stated in [2] in section
> « Deprecation of LTS support for backports ». Thus, they are not
> updated since July 2018. This has to be taken in consideration as no
> security updates will be provided to theses packages. LTS is for the
> vanilla Jessie.
>
> The repository jessie-updates/ is of no use while in the LTS. All
> changes has been merged in Jessie's point-release 8.11. But mind you,
> I personally didn't understood well the meaning of jessie-updates (in
> combinaison with jessie-proposed-updates). I formulated my new
> understanding in [3] and Adam confirmed it in [4].
>
> You can read the discussions about all that mainly in theses three
> threads [5] [6] [7]. This will provide you more information about the
> situation.
>
> Regards,
> Pierre.
>
> [1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-backports-announce/2018/07/msg00000.html
> [2] https://backports.debian.org/
> [3] https://lists.debian.org/debian-lts/2019/03/msg00142.html
> [4] https://lists.debian.org/debian-lts/2019/03/msg00153.html
> [5] https://lists.debian.org/debian-lts/2019/03/msg00117.html
> [6] https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2019/03/msg00765.html
> [7] https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2019/03/msg00775.html
>
> Le lun. 1 avr. 2019 à 10:40, Cédric Devillers <cd.laria@free.fr> a écrit :
>> Hello,
>>
>> just a quick question about Jessie.
>>
>> In recent days, the directories jessie-backports and jessie-updates have been removed from the main repositories.
>> jessie-backports is now available on the site "archive" and jessie-updates has totally disappeared.
>> The jessie distribution is supposed to be in LTS until 2020.
>> What is the reason for these directory movements? Is this normal?
>> In addition, the directory jessie-backports is indicated as expired (InRelease).
>>
>> Thank you in advance for the information you can provide me about it.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>       CD


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