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  stretch install for amd64-9.8.0 problems. Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-03-27 18:20 +0100
    Re: stretch install for amd64-9.8.0 problems. "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2019-03-27 18:30 +0100
      Re: stretch install for amd64-9.8.0 problems. Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-03-27 21:20 +0100
        Re: stretch install for amd64-9.8.0 problems. "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2019-03-27 22:20 +0100
          Re: stretch install for amd64-9.8.0 problems. Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-03-28 02:50 +0100
          Re: stretch install for amd64-9.8.0 problems. Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-03-28 03:10 +0100
            Re: stretch install for amd64-9.8.0 problems. "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2019-03-28 08:20 +0100
    Re: stretch install for amd64-9.8.0 problems. Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2019-03-27 19:10 +0100
      Re: stretch install for amd64-9.8.0 problems. Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-03-27 21:20 +0100
        Re: stretch install for amd64-9.8.0 problems. Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2019-03-28 00:40 +0100
          Re: stretch install for amd64-9.8.0 problems. Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-03-28 22:10 +0100

#206683 — stretch install for amd64-9.8.0 problems.

I pulled and burnt the netinstall, bad burn or bad checksum, but can't 
find the checksums for the netinstalls.

So I go back and get the DVD-1.jigdo.

Now where do I find the template for DVD-1 of 9.8.0 for amd64?

All I can get out of jigdo-lite after giving it a US mirror address is a 
request for a non-US address as the files don't exist, and I've tried 
several sites now.

debian.org's search doesn't find them either.  Whats the official story 
here? I can't get a verifiable netinstall, and jigdo can't find a file 
to download.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#206684

Hi,

Gene Heskett wrote:
> Now where do I find the template for DVD-1 of 9.8.0 for amd64?

  https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/jigdo-dvd/

The "https://" might be the problem with your installed jigdo-lite;

  https://wiki.debian.org/JigdoOnLive#If_needed.2C_work_around_a_shortcoming_of_older_jigdo-lite


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

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#206692

On Wednesday 27 March 2019 13:23:52 Thomas Schmitt wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Now where do I find the template for DVD-1 of 9.8.0 for amd64?
>
>   https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/jigdo-dvd/
>
> The "https://" might be the problem with your installed jigdo-lite;
>
>  
> https://wiki.debian.org/JigdoOnLive#If_needed.2C_work_around_a_shortco
>ming_of_older_jigdo-lite
>
>
Makes perfect sense, thanks Thomas.

> Have a nice day :)
>
> Thomas


Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#206696

Hi,

i pointed to:
> > https://wiki.debian.org/JigdoOnLive#If_needed.2C_work_around_a_shortcoming_of_older_jigdo-lite

Gene Heskett wrote:
> Makes perfect sense, thanks Thomas.

But does it help ?

Steve talks of not finding the packages, whereas i talk of not finding
the .jigdo files (*). Please clarify which files exactly are reported by
jigdo-lite as non-existing.

Is your jigdo-lite old enough at all to suffer from the https blindness ?
  https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=865864
was closed in december 2017 by release of program version 0.7.3-5.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
(*)
.template is mainly a compressed ISO image with holes where packages
were stored in the original ISO image.
.jigdo is mainly a compressed list of pool paths of Debian packages.
The packages sit in the pool trees of one or more Debian mirror servers.

jigdo-lite downloads .jigdo and .template and then fills the holes of
the template by downloading the packages from the mirrors.
The https blindness bug 865864 affected only the .jigdo/.template download.


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

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#206702

On Wednesday 27 March 2019 17:12:55 Thomas Schmitt wrote:

> Hi,
>
> i pointed to:
> > > https://wiki.debian.org/JigdoOnLive#If_needed.2C_work_around_a_sho
> > >rtcoming_of_older_jigdo-lite
>
> Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Makes perfect sense, thanks Thomas.
>
> But does it help ?
>
> Steve talks of not finding the packages, whereas i talk of not finding
> the .jigdo files (*). Please clarify which files exactly are reported
> by jigdo-lite as non-existing.
>
> Is your jigdo-lite old enough at all to suffer from the https
> blindness ? https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=865864
> was closed in december 2017 by release of program version 0.7.3-5.
>
And I have 7.3 on wheezy....  Are the torrents similarly crippled? Just 
had a thought, the pi running my lathe has Jessie on it, but jigdo is 
not in the raspian repos's. So I guess  I see if in can get the whole 
netinstall image.  What a PITA...

> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> (*)
> .template is mainly a compressed ISO image with holes where packages
> were stored in the original ISO image.
> .jigdo is mainly a compressed list of pool paths of Debian packages.
> The packages sit in the pool trees of one or more Debian mirror
> servers.
>
> jigdo-lite downloads .jigdo and .template and then fills the holes of
> the template by downloading the packages from the mirrors.
> The https blindness bug 865864 affected only the .jigdo/.template
> download.
>
>
> Have a nice day :)
>
> Thomas


Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#206704

On Wednesday 27 March 2019 17:12:55 Thomas Schmitt wrote:

> Hi,
>
> i pointed to:
> > > https://wiki.debian.org/JigdoOnLive#If_needed.2C_work_around_a_sho
> > >rtcoming_of_older_jigdo-lite
>
> Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Makes perfect sense, thanks Thomas.
>
> But does it help ?
>
> Steve talks of not finding the packages, whereas i talk of not finding
> the .jigdo files (*). Please clarify which files exactly are reported
> by jigdo-lite as non-existing.
>
> Is your jigdo-lite old enough at all to suffer from the https
> blindness ? https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=865864
> was closed in december 2017 by release of program version 0.7.3-5.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> (*)
> .template is mainly a compressed ISO image with holes where packages
> were stored in the original ISO image.
> .jigdo is mainly a compressed list of pool paths of Debian packages.
> The packages sit in the pool trees of one or more Debian mirror
> servers.
>
> jigdo-lite downloads .jigdo and .template and then fills the holes of
> the template by downloading the packages from the mirrors.
> The https blindness bug 865864 affected only the .jigdo/.template
> download.
>
>
> Have a nice day :)
>
> Thomas

I just grabbed the 4th copy of the netinstall cd, maybe k3b will write a 
good copy next time... First 2 burns failed at the switch to initrd file 
point.

What linux really needs is the ability to write a new install to a new HD 
which is what I'll be doing with the netinstall, and do it while the old 
system is fully functional so problems can be fixed as they are 
encountered. Very disappointing to see a disk error pop up at sector 
28xxx after 10 minutes of reading an ancient but freshly burnt cd image.  
Loading the initrd doesn't seem to be doing anything after another 7 or 
8 minutes so you ctrl-alt-del and reboot to wheezy.
New burn done, and I'll reboot to it as soon as I hit ctrl-return


Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#206712

Hi,

i wrote:
> > Is your jigdo-lite old enough at all to suffer from the https
> > blindness ?

Gene Heskett wrote:
> I have 7.3 on wheezy

So you would have to download the .jigdo and .template files manually
by wget or web browser. If you then run jigdo-lite in the directory
with the downloaded files and give it the URL of the .jigdo file again,
then you should get an ISO from jigdo-lite.


> I just grabbed the 4th copy of the netinstall cd, maybe k3b will write a
> good copy next time

Did you check its MD5 or SHA512 ?

  e0a43cbb8b991735c1b38e7041019658  debian-9.8.0-amd64-netinst.iso

  cc4a6bd50925c1c4af98049060e304494bc9da61eb5eb272c556d67608de14d4e6a4b8bc1c9412a0f810083912e228569f3771ffffa7174538f3e26f45a05245  debian-9.8.0-amd64-netinst.iso


> First 2 burns failed at the switch to initrd file point.

Please give the last messages of the failed attempt.
(If it gets to the initrd, then the boot loader worked and the Linux
 kernel was started.)


> Very disappointing to see a disk error pop up at sector
> 28xxx after 10 minutes of reading an ancient but freshly burnt cd image.

Is that error attributed to your CD or to your hard disk where you want
to install ?
If it is about the CD, try a DVD or an USB stick.
  https://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#write-usb


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

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#206686

In article <201903271310.25490.gheskett@shentel.net> you write:
>I pulled and burnt the netinstall, bad burn or bad checksum, but can't 
>find the checksums for the netinstalls.

They sit alongside the iso images - see

  https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/9.8.0/amd64/iso-cd/

>
>So I go back and get the DVD-1.jigdo.
>
>Now where do I find the template for DVD-1 of 9.8.0 for amd64?

alongside the .jigdo file in

  https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/9.8.0/amd64/jigdo-dvd/

>All I can get out of jigdo-lite after giving it a US mirror address is a 
>request for a non-US address as the files don't exist, and I've tried 
>several sites now.
>
>debian.org's search doesn't find them either.  Whats the official story 
>here? I can't get a verifiable netinstall, and jigdo can't find a file 
>to download.

jigdo-lite should fall back (eventually) to snapshot.debian.org and
find all its files there. Although for 9.8 (the current release!) all
the files should be on the normal mirrors already. Which files is it
not finding?

-- 
Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.                                steve@einval.com
  Armed with "Valor": "Centurion" represents quality of Discipline,
  Honor, Integrity and Loyalty. Now you don't have to be a Caesar to
  concord the digital world while feeling safe and proud.

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#206690

On Wednesday 27 March 2019 13:31:35 Steve McIntyre wrote:

> In article <201903271310.25490.gheskett@shentel.net> you write:
> >I pulled and burnt the netinstall, bad burn or bad checksum, but
> > can't find the checksums for the netinstalls.
>
> They sit alongside the iso images - see
>
>   https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/9.8.0/amd64/iso-cd/
>
> >So I go back and get the DVD-1.jigdo.
> >
> >Now where do I find the template for DVD-1 of 9.8.0 for amd64?
>
> alongside the .jigdo file in
>
>   https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/9.8.0/amd64/jigdo-dvd/
>
> >All I can get out of jigdo-lite after giving it a US mirror address
> > is a request for a non-US address as the files don't exist, and I've
> > tried several sites now.
> >
> >debian.org's search doesn't find them either.  Whats the official
> > story here? I can't get a verifiable netinstall, and jigdo can't
> > find a file to download.
>
> jigdo-lite should fall back (eventually) to snapshot.debian.org and
> find all its files there. Although for 9.8 (the current release!) all
> the files should be on the normal mirrors already. Which files is it
> not finding?

It hasn't found any so far.


Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#206699

Gene Heskett wrote:
>On Wednesday 27 March 2019 13:31:35 Steve McIntyre wrote:
>
>> In article <201903271310.25490.gheskett@shentel.net> you write:
>> >I pulled and burnt the netinstall, bad burn or bad checksum, but
>> > can't find the checksums for the netinstalls.
>>
>> They sit alongside the iso images - see
>>
>>   https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/9.8.0/amd64/iso-cd/
>>
>> >So I go back and get the DVD-1.jigdo.
>> >
>> >Now where do I find the template for DVD-1 of 9.8.0 for amd64?
>>
>> alongside the .jigdo file in
>>
>>   https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/9.8.0/amd64/jigdo-dvd/
>>
>> >All I can get out of jigdo-lite after giving it a US mirror address
>> > is a request for a non-US address as the files don't exist, and I've
>> > tried several sites now.
>> >
>> >debian.org's search doesn't find them either.  Whats the official
>> > story here? I can't get a verifiable netinstall, and jigdo can't
>> > find a file to download.
>>
>> jigdo-lite should fall back (eventually) to snapshot.debian.org and
>> find all its files there. Although for 9.8 (the current release!) all
>> the files should be on the normal mirrors already. Which files is it
>> not finding?
>
>It hasn't found any so far.

OK, that *is* odd. When it prompted you for a Debian mirror, what did
you tell it? Running locally here, trying both with my local mirror
and a well-known UK mirror (http://mirror.bytemark.co.uk/debian/)
things are working fine.

-- 
Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.                                steve@einval.com
  Armed with "Valor": "Centurion" represents quality of Discipline,
  Honor, Integrity and Loyalty. Now you don't have to be a Caesar to
  concord the digital world while feeling safe and proud.

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#206762

On Wednesday 27 March 2019 19:29:55 Steve McIntyre wrote:

> Gene Heskett wrote:
> >On Wednesday 27 March 2019 13:31:35 Steve McIntyre wrote:
> >> In article <201903271310.25490.gheskett@shentel.net> you write:
> >> >I pulled and burnt the netinstall, bad burn or bad checksum, but
> >> > can't find the checksums for the netinstalls.
> >>
> >> They sit alongside the iso images - see
> >>
> >>   https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/9.8.0/amd64/iso-cd/
> >>
> >> >So I go back and get the DVD-1.jigdo.
> >> >
> >> >Now where do I find the template for DVD-1 of 9.8.0 for amd64?
> >>
> >> alongside the .jigdo file in
> >>
> >>   https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/9.8.0/amd64/jigdo-dvd/
> >>
> >> >All I can get out of jigdo-lite after giving it a US mirror
> >> > address is a request for a non-US address as the files don't
> >> > exist, and I've tried several sites now.
> >> >
> >> >debian.org's search doesn't find them either.  Whats the official
> >> > story here? I can't get a verifiable netinstall, and jigdo can't
> >> > find a file to download.
> >>
> >> jigdo-lite should fall back (eventually) to snapshot.debian.org and
> >> find all its files there. Although for 9.8 (the current release!)
> >> all the files should be on the normal mirrors already. Which files
> >> is it not finding?
> >
> >It hasn't found any so far.
>
> OK, that *is* odd. When it prompted you for a Debian mirror, what did
> you tell it? Running locally here, trying both with my local mirror
> and a well-known UK mirror (http://mirror.bytemark.co.uk/debian/)
> things are working fine.

I tried to boot the newest netinstall, but it hammers on my writer 
apparntly forever. then not trusting a cd that wasn't booting anything I 
could see, I hit the power switch, and its taken me this long to locate 
another 400 watt ATX supply that will start when you push the button.

So Now I have some catching up to do before I can get back to this.

Thanks for so far.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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