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Ways to verify tools/applications? Fire support for new users

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  Ways to verify tools/applications? Fire support for new users deb <deb@rangingthoughts.org> - 2019-03-22 16:50 +0100
    Re: Ways to verify tools/applications? Fire support for new users Andy Smith <andy@strugglers.net> - 2019-03-23 00:50 +0100
      Re: Ways to verify tools/applications? Fire support for new users deb <deb@rangingthoughts.org> - 2019-03-23 02:00 +0100

#206456 — Ways to verify tools/applications? Fire support for new users

Hello folks:


Again, for someone trying to pull Windows (and Mac) users into Linux ...

Are there list-suggested ways to help verify non-free / 
out-of-stable-distro or even seldomly updated in-distro tools, PRE-INSTALL?


A portion of the users are going to have the ability to sudo apt-get 
install ....

No way around that.

I have them (at least) do this first:


  * $ apt-cache search the-thing  # shows variants

  * $ apt-cache show the-thing     # Let's them see more, pre-install

  * https://startpage.com the-thing

  * talk to me.                                # gives me a chance to 
brace myself.



Are there suggested sites to look up Linux tools to verify them a bit; 
rather than just one-off searches?

Are there suggested sites where KNOWN BAD tools are listed?


Thanks again

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#206497

Hello,

On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 11:44:15AM -0400, deb wrote:
> Are there list-suggested ways to help verify non-free / out-of-stable-distro
> or even seldomly updated in-distro tools, PRE-INSTALL?

If in your /etc/apt/sources.list you stick to one distribution and
don't include "contrib" and "non-free" suites then you aren't going
to get any non-free software and the packages you install will at
least have been considered acceptable by Debian for release.

> Are there suggested sites to look up Linux tools to verify them a bit;
> rather than just one-off searches?
> 
> Are there suggested sites where KNOWN BAD tools are listed?

That all sounds highly subjective and don't see how you could have
any such definitive thing.

There is no substitute for proper research but as a blunt tool, once
you have identified multiple different packages that do what you
want you could look at Debian's popcon to compare how many reported
installations there are of each of them:

    https://popcon.debian.org/

Cheers,
Andy

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https://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting

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#206500

On 3/22/19 7:43 PM, Andy Smith wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 11:44:15AM -0400, deb wrote:
>> Are there list-suggested ways to help verify non-free / out-of-stable-distro
>> or even seldomly updated in-distro tools, PRE-INSTALL?
> If in your /etc/apt/sources.list you stick to one distribution and
> don't include "contrib" and "non-free" suites then you aren't going
> to get any non-free software and the packages you install will at
> least have been considered acceptable by Debian for release.
>
>> Are there suggested sites to look up Linux tools to verify them a bit;
>> rather than just one-off searches?
>>
>> Are there suggested sites where KNOWN BAD tools are listed?
> That all sounds highly subjective and don't see how you could have
> any such definitive thing.
>
> There is no substitute for proper research but as a blunt tool, once
> you have identified multiple different packages that do what you
> want you could look at Debian's popcon to compare how many reported
> installations there are of each of them:
>
>      https://popcon.debian.org/
>
> Cheers,
> Andy
>

This popcorn page looks useful Andy!

https://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=iotop


Thank you -- I did not know about that one.


This gets added to my little list of things to check with.


Thanks!

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