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| Started by | Sam Smith <debian@net153.net> |
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| First post | 2019-03-19 06:10 +0100 |
| Last post | 2019-03-19 07:50 +0100 |
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Stretch -> Buster = Shot Fonts Sam Smith <debian@net153.net> - 2019-03-19 06:10 +0100
Re: Stretch -> Buster = Shot Fonts Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-03-19 07:50 +0100
| From | Sam Smith <debian@net153.net> |
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| Date | 2019-03-19 06:10 +0100 |
| Subject | Stretch -> Buster = Shot Fonts |
| Message-ID | <xDfaF-30b-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
After upgrading from stretch to buster, I was left with some fuzzy fonts on the built in KDE terminal (Konsole). I documented the painful 12 hour discovery process here: http://www.net153.net/blog/20190318-shot-fonts.html This is the new engine: http://www.net153.net/pics/shot-fonts/Screenshot_20190318_170153_org.png And the old: http://www.net153.net/pics/shot-fonts/Screenshot_20190318_170259_mod.png Yes I am aware of the new engine in libfreetype: https://www.freetype.org/freetype2/docs/subpixel-hinting.html as well as a previous bug: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=866685 But I find it odd that the "new and improved" engine has in no case any examples of improved text and the only fix is to simply force the old engine into use. I figured I had to be missing something, hence spending nearly two full days on the matter. But I can find no way to make fonts using the "new" engine to look any better. Even stranger, if I force the use of the freetype 'autohinter' instead of using the default 'native' hinter (which all docs state not to do btw) then mostly everything improves. I've got to be missing something here but I'm out of ideas. The only thing I haven't really messed with is if there is some kind of DPI mismatch in my system but not sure how to check that (and too tired to mess with it now). Any other ideas? I'm actually quite happy with my fonts now using the 'autohinter' and turning on subpixel hinting. But certainly the freetype author didn't just break fonts for the entire world and the only thing we say is "just use the old engine"??? Regards,
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| From | Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> |
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| Date | 2019-03-19 07:50 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <xDgJr-3Sg-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #206342 |
Hi. On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 11:52:28PM -0500, Sam Smith wrote: > After upgrading from stretch to buster, I was left with some fuzzy fonts on the built in KDE terminal (Konsole). I documented the painful 12 hour discovery > process here: http://www.net153.net/blog/20190318-shot-fonts.html To be honest, all those screenshots are blurry to me. > Yes I am aware of the new engine in libfreetype: https://www.freetype.org/freetype2/docs/subpixel-hinting.html So they re-implemented "blurry rainbow fonts" from the certain non-free OS. I cannot see any improvement on that link as well. > I figured I had to be missing something, hence spending nearly two full days on the matter. But I can find no way to make fonts using the "new" engine to look > any better. Give it a try. 1) Disable autohinting, and that "native" thing too. 2) Force full hinting. 3) Force grayscale (*not* rgba) rendering. If you don't like the output - install Terminus font and use it. No amount of FreeType settings can screw a bitmap font. > Even stranger, if I force the use of the freetype 'autohinter' instead of using the default 'native' hinter (which all docs state not to do btw) > then mostly everything improves. What they don't tell you in the docs, is that fonts rendering is subjective. One man's fonts settings can (and likely will) produce an unreadable results to the other. Reco
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