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  what to do with gtk-2/gtk-3 clash? Felmon Davis <davisf@union.edu> - 2018-12-13 22:30 +0100
    Re: what to do with gtk-2/gtk-3 clash? Matthew Crews <mailinglists@mattcrews.com> - 2018-12-15 01:40 +0100
      Re: what to do with gtk-2/gtk-3 clash? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-12-15 03:20 +0100
      Re: what to do with gtk-2/gtk-3 clash? Felmon Davis <davisf@union.edu> - 2018-12-15 05:20 +0100
    Re: what to do with gtk-2/gtk-3 clash? Stefan Krusche <linux@stefan-krusche.de> - 2018-12-15 15:20 +0100
      Re: what to do with gtk-2/gtk-3 clash? Felmon Davis <davisf@union.edu> - 2018-12-15 19:20 +0100

#203355 — what to do with gtk-2/gtk-3 clash?

trying to start Firefox (from Mozilla), Pan, Google-Chrome-Stable 
generates:

TK+ 2.x symbols detected. Using GTK+ 2.x and GTK+ 3 in the same 
process is not supported

(I use Trinity-Desktop which extends KDE3.)

I first noticed the problem after upgrading Firefox from Mozilla's 
site. it came up without vertical scrollbars. I tried to sort this out 
by changing themes and their properties. that is likely the source of 
the issue.

the stuff I find online offers nothing useful if you are not 
developing code.

guidance sought.

fjd



-- 
Felmon Davis

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#203385

‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
On Thursday, December 13, 2018 2:28 PM, Felmon Davis <davisf@union.edu> wrote:

>
>
> trying to start Firefox (from Mozilla), Pan, Google-Chrome-Stable
> generates:
>
> TK+ 2.x symbols detected. Using GTK+ 2.x and GTK+ 3 in the same
> process is not supported
>
> (I use Trinity-Desktop which extends KDE3.)
>
> I first noticed the problem after upgrading Firefox from Mozilla's
> site. it came up without vertical scrollbars. I tried to sort this out
> by changing themes and their properties. that is likely the source of
> the issue.
>
> the stuff I find online offers nothing useful if you are not
> developing code.
>
> guidance sought.
>

I didn't even realize Debian supported Trinity. Its not in the official repos.

It sounds to me like you should try a supported DE and see if it is reproducible. I know XFCE uses both GTK2 and GTK3 libraries and runs these web browsers without issue. If it is not, I would file a bug report with the folks at Trinity.

-Matt

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#203387

On Friday 14 December 2018 19:34:09 Matthew Crews wrote:

> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>
> On Thursday, December 13, 2018 2:28 PM, Felmon Davis <davisf@union.edu> 
wrote:
> > trying to start Firefox (from Mozilla), Pan, Google-Chrome-Stable
> > generates:
> >
> > TK+ 2.x symbols detected. Using GTK+ 2.x and GTK+ 3 in the same
> > process is not supported
> >
> > (I use Trinity-Desktop which extends KDE3.)
> >
> > I first noticed the problem after upgrading Firefox from Mozilla's
> > site. it came up without vertical scrollbars. I tried to sort this
> > out by changing themes and their properties. that is likely the
> > source of the issue.
> >
> > the stuff I find online offers nothing useful if you are not
> > developing code.
> >
> > guidance sought.
>
> I didn't even realize Debian supported Trinity. Its not in the
> official repos.
>
Doesn't need to be, its 99.9999% free standing.

> It sounds to me like you should try a supported DE and see if it is
> reproducible. I know XFCE uses both GTK2 and GTK3 libraries and runs
> these web browsers without issue. If it is not, I would file a bug
> report with the folks at Trinity.
>
> -Matt



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#203388

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On Sat, 15 Dec 2018, Matthew Crews wrote:

> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> On Thursday, December 13, 2018 2:28 PM, Felmon Davis <davisf@union.edu> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> trying to start Firefox (from Mozilla), Pan, Google-Chrome-Stable
>> generates:
>>
>> TK+ 2.x symbols detected. Using GTK+ 2.x and GTK+ 3 in the same
>> process is not supported
>>
>> (I use Trinity-Desktop which extends KDE3.)
>>
>> I first noticed the problem after upgrading Firefox from Mozilla's
>> site. it came up without vertical scrollbars. I tried to sort this out
>> by changing themes and their properties. that is likely the source of
>> the issue.
>>
>> the stuff I find online offers nothing useful if you are not
>> developing code.
>>
>> guidance sought.
>>
>
> I didn't even realize Debian supported Trinity. Its not in the official repos.

my system is likely to be a hybrid, to put it delicately, as I had a 
Devuan base (using Jessie) and upgraded to Stretch from it.

I don't know the implications of this.

> It sounds to me like you should try a supported DE and see if it is 
> reproducible. I know XFCE uses both GTK2 and GTK3 libraries and runs 
> these web browsers without issue. If it is not, I would file a bug 
> report with the folks at Trinity.

I will consider this. as a matter of fact, in my struggles I feared 
I was going to mess things up beyond recovery so I installed xfce4 
on the side (I can log into it) to continue work if I had to.

I don't remember a lot as I didn't do much there but it did run Pan 
and I believe FF. but I used my Windows 10 machine to research 
problems and eventually hit on the device of stripping out GTK3.

about possible bugs, I may check it out over the weekend. my suspicion 
is some conflict in themes. right now I am reluctant to test reinstall 
my suspects, gtk3-tqt-engine-trinity and gtk2-engine-oxygen because of 
time-constraints though I suppose it'd be easy enough.

fjd

-- 
Felmon Davis

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#203391

Good day Felmon,

Am Donnerstag, 13. Dezember 2018 schrieb Felmon Davis:
> trying to start Firefox (from Mozilla), Pan, Google-Chrome-Stable
> generates:
>
> TK+ 2.x symbols detected. Using GTK+ 2.x and GTK+ 3 in the same
> process is not supported
>
> (I use Trinity-Desktop which extends KDE3.)
>
> I first noticed the problem after upgrading Firefox from Mozilla's
> site. it came up without vertical scrollbars. I tried to sort this out
> by changing themes and their properties. that is likely the source of
> the issue.
>
> the stuff I find online offers nothing useful if you are not
> developing code.
>
> guidance sought.

In case you have the package kgtk-qt3-trinity installed, try to remove it.  
It is known to sometimes cause problems and the trick helped me a couple of 
times on my system (Devuan ascii/TDE).


>
> fjd


Kind regards,
Stefan

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#203392

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On Sat, 15 Dec 2018, Stefan Krusche wrote:

> Good day Felmon,
>
> Am Donnerstag, 13. Dezember 2018 schrieb Felmon Davis:
>> trying to start Firefox (from Mozilla), Pan, Google-Chrome-Stable
>> generates:
>>
>> TK+ 2.x symbols detected. Using GTK+ 2.x and GTK+ 3 in the same
>> process is not supported
>>
>> (I use Trinity-Desktop which extends KDE3.)
>>
>> I first noticed the problem after upgrading Firefox from Mozilla's
>> site. it came up without vertical scrollbars. I tried to sort this out
>> by changing themes and their properties. that is likely the source of
>> the issue.
>>
>> the stuff I find online offers nothing useful if you are not
>> developing code.
>>
>> guidance sought.
>
> In case you have the package kgtk-qt3-trinity installed, try to remove it.
> It is known to sometimes cause problems and the trick helped me a couple of
> times on my system (Devuan ascii/TDE).

grüsse, I had removed it to address my problem with OpenOffice; I 
mentioned this in a different thread when I first noticed problems 
with OO's menus.

I just checked and it's still gone.

fjd

-- 
Felmon Davis

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