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  Debian social Marek Mosiewicz <marek.mosiewicz@jotel.com.pl> - 2018-12-10 17:10 +0100
    Re: Debian social Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2018-12-10 17:30 +0100
    Re: Debian social deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2018-12-10 21:40 +0100
      Re: Debian social Marek Mosiewicz <marek.mosiewicz@jotel.com.pl> - 2018-12-10 23:10 +0100
        Re: Debian social deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2018-12-11 00:40 +0100
        Re: Debian social songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2018-12-11 13:10 +0100
      Re: Debian social Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-12-11 01:20 +0100
    Re: Debian social Cindy-Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2018-12-10 23:50 +0100
      Re: Debian social Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-12-11 00:20 +0100
        Re: Debian social Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2018-12-11 22:00 +0100
      Re: Debian social Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-12-11 10:20 +0100
        Re: Debian social Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-12-11 10:30 +0100
        Re: Debian social Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-12-11 15:10 +0100
          Re: Debian social Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-12-11 18:00 +0100
            Re: Debian social Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-12-11 22:00 +0100
            Re: Debian social Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-12-11 22:00 +0100
          Re: Debian social Marek Mosiewicz <marek.mosiewicz@jotel.com.pl> - 2018-12-11 18:30 +0100

#203234 — Debian social

Hi everybody

What about creating Debian users mailing list for social entertainment.
I believe Debian users have great intellectual abilities and such list
where it could be talk about anything could be great thing.

It could be not necessarily hosted on Debian servers. Or maybe debian
people communicate some different way.


--
Gaining from harming others is stricly prohibited.

Marek Mosiewicz

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#203236

On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 05:07:31PM +0100, Marek Mosiewicz wrote:
> Hi everybody
> 
> What about creating Debian users mailing list for social entertainment.
> I believe Debian users have great intellectual abilities and such list
> where it could be talk about anything could be great thing.
> 
> It could be not necessarily hosted on Debian servers. Or maybe debian
> people communicate some different way.
> 
This might be somewhat what you are looking for:
https://lists.debian.org/debian-curiosa/

Regards,

-Roberto

-- 
Roberto C. Sánchez

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#203251

Marek Mosiewicz wrote:

> What about creating Debian users mailing list for social entertainment.
> I believe Debian users have great intellectual abilities and such list
> where it could be talk about anything could be great thing.

When I hear the word "social", a fire of red lights just explodes in front
of my eyes ... 

The best is to have friends, family and social contacts in a human way -
this means meeting and talking to people. The social media crap is total
BS.

regards

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#203253

W dniu 10.12.2018, pon o godzinie 21∶39 +0100, użytkownik deloptes
napisał:
> Marek Mosiewicz wrote:
> 
> > What about creating Debian users mailing list for social
> > entertainment.
> > I believe Debian users have great intellectual abilities and such
> > list
> > where it could be talk about anything could be great thing.
> 
> When I hear the word "social", a fire of red lights just explodes in
> front
> of my eyes ... 
> 
> The best is to have friends, family and social contacts in a human
> way -
That is true.
> this means meeting and talking to people. The social media crap is
> total
> BS.
> 
I remember time when internet had news groups and it was different type
of social. Maybe it is wrong word. I mean place for generic discussion.
For sure better than TV 
> regards
> 
> 

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#203258

Marek Mosiewicz wrote:

>> The best is to have friends, family and social contacts in a human
>> way -
> That is true.
>> this means meeting and talking to people. The social media crap is
>> total
>> BS.
>> 
> I remember time when internet had news groups and it was different type
> of social. Maybe it is wrong word. I mean place for generic discussion.
> For sure better than TV
>> regards

This was the time before, long live the smombies. Unfortunately I witnessed
how this happened and I am disgusted - I guess many people too, but it
seems we are minority. But don't worry it will solve down into dumbness not
known before and it will resolve itself in a natural way as nature does not
tolerate dumbness at all and everything that goes against nature is doomed
to fail. We've seen it and we'll see it before. It just takes time - look
forward to protect your children by educating them. Many of them fall
victim to the smombies.

regards

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#203264

Marek Mosiewicz wrote:
... 
> I remember time when internet had news groups and it was different type
> of social. Maybe it is wrong word. I mean place for generic discussion.
> For sure better than TV 


  usenet still exists and the social groups are
still there, but they may not be very active
these days.

  there are even low cost or free news services
available (search for eternal-september for one
example).


  songbird

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#203259

On Monday 10 December 2018 15:39:05 deloptes wrote:

> Marek Mosiewicz wrote:
> > What about creating Debian users mailing list for social
> > entertainment. I believe Debian users have great intellectual
> > abilities and such list where it could be talk about anything could
> > be great thing.
>
> When I hear the word "social", a fire of red lights just explodes in
> front of my eyes ...
>
> The best is to have friends, family and social contacts in a human way
> - this means meeting and talking to people. The social media crap is
> total BS.
>
> regards

Theres quite a clear echo in here. :)


-- 
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#203256

On 12/10/18, Marek Mosiewicz <marek.mosiewicz@jotel.com.pl> wrote:
> Hi everybody
>
> What about creating Debian users mailing list for social entertainment.
> I believe Debian users have great intellectual abilities and such list
> where it could be talk about anything could be great thing.
>
> It could be not necessarily hosted on Debian servers. Or maybe debian
> people communicate some different way.


I *thought* there used to be a Debian-Offtopic (or off-topic)
listserv, but I don't see it listed on the listserv homepage [0]...
which is where I THOUGHT I saw it listed.

Beyond that, I *thought* I remembered a few times seeing long threads
being (politely) advised to move it on over to offtopic, meaning the
listserv I thought I remembered..

Tried my inbox and only found a total of 3 references in a very large
inbox. One of those referenced an IRC named debian-offtopic. Maybe
that's an option?

If there is a complete list of Debian chat channels (YAY, there is!
[1]), maybe that's what I'm incorrectly remembering as having been the
listservs. EXCEPT THAT I swear I remember considering signing up for
an email listserv by that name, but it was VERY busy so I momentarily
skipped it. IRC as a communication means has always been iffy k/t
local dialup so it's not been viable over the years. :D

Cindy :)

[0] https://lists.debian.org/completeindex.html

[1] https://wiki.debian.org/IRC#Debian_IRC_channels

-- 
Cindy-Sue Causey
Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA

* runs with birdseed *

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#203257

On Mon 10 Dec 2018 at 17:47:20 -0500, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote:

> On 12/10/18, Marek Mosiewicz <marek.mosiewicz@jotel.com.pl> wrote:
> > Hi everybody
> >
> > What about creating Debian users mailing list for social entertainment.
> > I believe Debian users have great intellectual abilities and such list
> > where it could be talk about anything could be great thing.
> >
> > It could be not necessarily hosted on Debian servers. Or maybe debian
> > people communicate some different way.
> 
> 
> I *thought* there used to be a Debian-Offtopic (or off-topic)
> listserv, but I don't see it listed on the listserv homepage [0]...
> which is where I THOUGHT I saw it listed.

Your memory is good; #427218 and #425439. All trace of the -offtopic
list appears to have disappeared from history.

> Beyond that, I *thought* I remembered a few times seeing long threads
> being (politely) advised to move it on over to offtopic, meaning the
> listserv I thought I remembered..

That never worked. People intent on disrupting -user stayed there and
continued their disruptive work.

-- 
Brian.

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#203288

On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 11:13:35PM +0000, Brian wrote:
>On Mon 10 Dec 2018 at 17:47:20 -0500, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote:
>> I *thought* there used to be a Debian-Offtopic (or off-topic)
>> listserv, but I don't see it listed on the listserv homepage [0]...
>> which is where I THOUGHT I saw it listed.
>
>Your memory is good; #427218 and #425439. All trace of the -offtopic
>list appears to have disappeared from history.

My recollection (although I never subscribed to it) was it was not
hosted on the Debian list infrastructure.

#425439 seems to suggest a list fitting the bill (d-user-offtopic) was
hosted on Alioth, which seems likely to be one and the same

http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic

It looks like the list died with Alioth (and was not ported to
https://alioth-lists.debian.net/)

>That never worked. People intent on disrupting -user stayed there and
>continued their disruptive work.

I concur.

-- 

⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀
⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net
⠈⠳⣄⠀⠀⠀⠀ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.

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#203261

On 2018-12-10, Cindy-Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Beyond that, I *thought* I remembered a few times seeing long threads
> being (politely) advised to move it on over to offtopic, meaning the
> listserv I thought I remembered..
>

Yeah, but apparently the off-topic group was consistently drifting
on topic to the point where many were advised to move there technical
prolixities and proclivities over here (and vice versa, of course, as
you've pointed out).

You can't win.

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#203262

On 2018-12-11, Curt <curty@free.fr> wrote:
> On 2018-12-10, Cindy-Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Beyond that, I *thought* I remembered a few times seeing long threads
>> being (politely) advised to move it on over to offtopic, meaning the
>> listserv I thought I remembered..
>>
>
> Yeah, but apparently the off-topic group was consistently drifting
> on topic to the point where many were advised to move there technical
                                                        their
> prolixities and proclivities over here (and vice versa, of course, as
> you've pointed out).
>
> You can't win.
>
>


-- 
He used sentences differently from any other prose writer. He always sounded
like a slightly drunk man who is very melancholy, who has no illusions about
life, who is very strong but whose strength is entirely unnecessary.
--Krasznahorkai on Krúdy

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#203269

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 09:16:01 +0000 (UTC)
Curt <curty@free.fr> wrote:

> On 2018-12-10, Cindy-Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Beyond that, I *thought* I remembered a few times seeing long
> > threads being (politely) advised to move it on over to offtopic,
> > meaning the listserv I thought I remembered..
> >  
> 
> Yeah, but apparently the off-topic group was consistently drifting
> on topic to the point where many were advised to move there technical
> prolixities and proclivities over here (and vice versa, of course, as
> you've pointed out).
> 
> You can't win.
> 

As I've pointed out before, this list is named debian-*user*, not
debian-technical-things-only-or-you-will-burn-in-hell-for-eternity.

Debain users will mostly talk about Debian issues, but not necessarily
exclusively.

-- 
Joe

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#203275

On 2018-12-11, Joe <joe@jretrading.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2018-12-10, Cindy-Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Beyond that, I *thought* I remembered a few times seeing long
>> > threads being (politely) advised to move it on over to offtopic,
>> > meaning the listserv I thought I remembered..
>> >  
>> 
>> Yeah, but apparently the off-topic group was consistently drifting
>> on topic to the point where many were advised to move there technical
>> prolixities and proclivities over here (and vice versa, of course, as
>> you've pointed out).
>> 
>> You can't win.
>> 
>
> As I've pointed out before, this list is named debian-*user*, not
> debian-technical-things-only-or-you-will-burn-in-hell-for-eternity.

Did I say that? 

What you quoted up there of mine (where I said there instead of their
up there) was an attempt at jocularity. I know you're the moral arbiter
around these parts, repeating yourself and pointing things out and all,
but give me a break.
 
> Debain users will mostly talk about Debian issues, but not necessarily
> exclusively.
>


-- 
He used sentences differently from any other prose writer. He always sounded
like a slightly drunk man who is very melancholy, who has no illusions about
life, who is very strong but whose strength is entirely unnecessary.
--Krasznahorkai on Krúdy

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#203286

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 16:51:22 +0000 (UTC)
Curt <curty@free.fr> wrote:


> 
> Did I say that? 
> 
> What you quoted up there of mine (where I said there instead of their
> up there) was an attempt at jocularity. I know you're the moral
> arbiter around these parts, repeating yourself and pointing things
> out and all, but give me a break.

No, it wasn't specifically in reply to you, but there are apparently
people using newsreaders which don't display subject lines, and they get
hot under the collar when people wander off.

Life's too short.

-- 
Joe

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#203287

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 16:51:22 +0000 (UTC)
Curt <curty@free.fr> wrote:

> On 2018-12-11, Joe <joe@jretrading.com> wrote:
> >  
> >> On 2018-12-10, Cindy-Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> wrote:  
> >> >
> >> > Beyond that, I *thought* I remembered a few times seeing long
> >> > threads being (politely) advised to move it on over to offtopic,
> >> > meaning the listserv I thought I remembered..
> >> >    
> >> 
> >> Yeah, but apparently the off-topic group was consistently drifting
> >> on topic to the point where many were advised to move there
> >> technical prolixities and proclivities over here (and vice versa,
> >> of course, as you've pointed out).
> >> 
> >> You can't win.
> >>   
> >
> > As I've pointed out before, this list is named debian-*user*, not
> > debian-technical-things-only-or-you-will-burn-in-hell-for-eternity.  
> 
> Did I say that? 
> 
> What you quoted up there of mine (where I said there instead of their
> up there) was an attempt at jocularity. I know you're the moral
> arbiter around these parts, repeating yourself and pointing things
> out and all, but give me a break.
>  
> > Debain users will mostly talk about Debian issues, but not
> > necessarily exclusively.
> >  
> 
> 

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#203279

W dniu 11.12.2018, wto o godzinie 14∶09 +0000, użytkownik Joe napisał:
> On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 09:16:01 +0000 (UTC)
> Curt <curty@free.fr> wrote:
> 
> > On 2018-12-10, Cindy-Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > Beyond that, I *thought* I remembered a few times seeing long
> > > threads being (politely) advised to move it on over to offtopic,
> > > meaning the listserv I thought I remembered..
> > >  
> > 
> > Yeah, but apparently the off-topic group was consistently drifting
> > on topic to the point where many were advised to move there
> > technical
> > prolixities and proclivities over here (and vice versa, of course,
> > as
> > you've pointed out).
> > 
> > You can't win.
> > 
> 
> As I've pointed out before, this list is named debian-*user*, not
> debian-technical-things-only-or-you-will-burn-in-hell-for-eternity.
apt install debian-technical-things-only-or-you-will-burn-in-hell-for-
eternity
> 
> Debain users will mostly talk about Debian issues, but not
> necessarily
> exclusively.
> 

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