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File with weird permissions, impossible to delete

Started byPétùr <peturvilj@gmail.com>
First post2018-09-11 14:00 +0200
Last post2018-09-18 17:30 +0200
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  File with weird permissions, impossible to delete Pétùr <peturvilj@gmail.com> - 2018-09-11 14:00 +0200
    Re: File with weird permissions, impossible to delete <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-09-11 14:10 +0200
      Re: File with weird permissions, impossible to delete "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2018-09-11 14:20 +0200
    Re: File with weird permissions, impossible to delete Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-09-11 14:20 +0200
    File with weird permissions, impossible to delete Martin <keine-eile@online.de> - 2018-09-11 14:30 +0200
      Re: File with weird permissions, impossible to delete Pétùr <peturvilj@gmail.com> - 2018-09-11 14:50 +0200
        Re: File with weird permissions, impossible to delete Martin <keine-eile@online.de> - 2018-09-11 15:10 +0200
          Re: File with weird permissions, impossible to delete "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2018-09-11 17:00 +0200
            Re: File with weird permissions, impossible to delete Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2018-09-11 18:20 +0200
              Re: File with weird permissions, impossible to delete Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-09-11 19:00 +0200
        Re: File with weird permissions, impossible to delete David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-09-11 15:30 +0200
    Re: File with weird permissions, impossible to delete Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> - 2018-09-11 15:00 +0200
    Re: File with weird permissions, impossible to delete Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-09-11 15:10 +0200
      Re: File with weird permissions, impossible to delete Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-09-11 16:50 +0200
        Re: File with weird permissions, impossible to delete Pétùr <peturvilj@gmail.com> - 2018-09-11 17:30 +0200
          Re: File with weird permissions, impossible to delete Martin <keine-eile@online.de> - 2018-09-11 19:40 +0200
            Re: File with weird permissions, impossible to delete Pétùr <peturvilj@gmail.com> - 2018-09-11 19:50 +0200
              Re: File with weird permissions, impossible to delete mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2018-09-11 20:30 +0200
              Re: File with weird permissions, impossible to delete Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2018-09-11 21:10 +0200
              Re: File with weird permissions, impossible to delete Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2018-09-12 01:50 +0200
                Re: File with weird permissions, impossible to delete Pétùr <peturvilj@gmail.com> - 2018-09-12 12:10 +0200
            Re: File with weird permissions, impossible to delete Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-09-11 20:30 +0200
            Re: File with weird permissions, impossible to delete David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-09-11 22:30 +0200
      Re: File with weird permissions, impossible to delete Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> - 2018-09-12 01:20 +0200
        Re: File with weird permissions, impossible to delete Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-09-12 03:30 +0200
          Re: red SATA cable corruption (was: File with weird permissions,  impossible to delete) Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2018-09-12 03:40 +0200
            Re: red SATA cable corruption (was: File with weird permissions, impossible to delete) Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-09-12 04:40 +0200
              Re: red SATA cable corruption Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2018-09-12 05:10 +0200
                Re: red SATA cable corruption Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-09-12 08:10 +0200
                  Re: red SATA cable corruption Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-09-12 13:40 +0200
                  OT high-power radio broadcasting (was Re: red SATA cable corruption) Marty <martyb@ix.netcom.com> - 2018-09-14 20:40 +0200
                    Re: OT high-power radio broadcasting (was Re: red SATA cable corruption) Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-09-14 22:00 +0200
                      Re: OT high-power radio broadcasting (was Re: red SATA cable corruption) Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 21:20 +0200
                        Re: OT high-power radio broadcasting (was Re: red SATA cable corruption) Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-09-18 22:00 +0200
                          Re: OT high-power radio broadcasting (was Re: red SATA cable  corruption) Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-09-18 22:10 +0200
                            Re: OT high-power radio broadcasting (was Re: red SATA cable corruption) Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 23:20 +0200
                              Re: OT high-power radio broadcasting (was Re: red SATA cable  corruption) Dominic Knight <dominicknight@gmx.com> - 2018-09-18 23:40 +0200
                                Re: OT high-power radio broadcasting (was Re: red SATA cable corruption) Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2018-09-19 00:20 +0200
                                  Re: OT high-power radio broadcasting (was Re: red SATA cable  corruption) Martin <keine-eile@online.de> - 2018-09-19 10:20 +0200
          Re: File with weird permissions, impossible to delete Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> - 2018-09-14 03:10 +0200
    Re: File with weird permissions, impossible to delete Pétùr <peturvilj@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 15:00 +0200
      Re: File with weird permissions, impossible to delete David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-09-18 16:10 +0200
        Re: File with weird permissions, impossible to delete Pétùr <peturvilj@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 16:20 +0200
          Re: File with weird permissions, impossible to delete David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-09-18 17:30 +0200

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#200270

FromPétùr <peturvilj@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-18 15:00 +0200
Message-ID<wznLI-2hj-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#199978
Le 11/09/2018 à 13:52, Pétùr a écrit :
> I have some files, with weird permissions:
> 
> # ls -la
> d-wS--S--T 2 1061270772 2605320832  4096 oct.   7  2412 index.html
> 
> Cannot delete, cannot change owner or group (what is this user
> 1061270772 and group 2605320832 by the way?) even for root.
> 
> How can I get rid of these?
> 
> Pétùr
> 

Another example of weird permissions today for a file on an external
hard drive (ntfs)

# ll
ls: cannot access 'Western_Europe.zip': No such file or directory
total 21
-rwxrwxrwx 1 petur petur   228 Mar 31  2010 activation_map_51183.cab
-rwxrwxrwx 1 petur petur 10410 Mar 31  2010 map14655-1.gif
-rwxrwxrwx 1 petur petur  1737 Mar 31  2010 map14655.gif
-????????? ? ?      ?          ?            ? Western_Europe.zip
-rwxrwxrwx 1 petur petur  3236 Mar 31  2010 We풦tern_Europe.toc

# rm -rfv *
rm: cannot remove 'activation_map_51183.cab': Input/output error
rm: cannot remove 'map14655-1.gif': Input/output error
rm: cannot remove 'map14655.gif': Input/output error


How can I delete these files without formating ?

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#200271

FromDavid Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk>
Date2018-09-18 16:10 +0200
Message-ID<wzoRs-37b-23@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#200270
On Tue 18 Sep 2018 at 14:56:53 (+0200), Pétùr wrote:
> Le 11/09/2018 à 13:52, Pétùr a écrit :
> > I have some files, with weird permissions:
> > 
> > # ls -la
> > d-wS--S--T 2 1061270772 2605320832  4096 oct.   7  2412 index.html
> > 
> > Cannot delete, cannot change owner or group (what is this user
> > 1061270772 and group 2605320832 by the way?) even for root.
> > 
> > How can I get rid of these?
> > 
> > Pétùr
> > 
> 
> Another example of weird permissions today for a file on an external
> hard drive (ntfs)
> 
> # ll
> ls: cannot access 'Western_Europe.zip': No such file or directory
> total 21
> -rwxrwxrwx 1 petur petur   228 Mar 31  2010 activation_map_51183.cab
> -rwxrwxrwx 1 petur petur 10410 Mar 31  2010 map14655-1.gif
> -rwxrwxrwx 1 petur petur  1737 Mar 31  2010 map14655.gif
> -????????? ? ?      ?          ?            ? Western_Europe.zip
> -rwxrwxrwx 1 petur petur  3236 Mar 31  2010 We풦tern_Europe.toc
> 
> # rm -rfv *
> rm: cannot remove 'activation_map_51183.cab': Input/output error
> rm: cannot remove 'map14655-1.gif': Input/output error
> rm: cannot remove 'map14655.gif': Input/output error
> 
> 
> How can I delete these files without formating ?

To what end? I think you've now got an indication of a problem
somewhat more serious than some software dreaming up crazy
file permissions and timestamps.

I would now be looking at rescuing everything you can from the drive
without prejudicing any backups you already have. Meanwhile I'd be
trying to determine the source of this corruption. It's rather
worrying that you've had both internal and external drives
affected. That's outside my experience.

Cheers,
David.

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#200273

FromPétùr <peturvilj@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-18 16:20 +0200
Message-ID<wzp17-3ac-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#200271
Le 18/09/2018 à 15:46, David Wright a écrit :
>> How can I delete these files without formating ?
> To what end? I think you've now got an indication of a problem
> somewhat more serious than some software dreaming up crazy
> file permissions and timestamps.
> 
> I would now be looking at rescuing everything you can from the drive
> without prejudicing any backups you already have. Meanwhile I'd be
> trying to determine the source of this corruption. It's rather
> worrying that you've had both internal and external drives
> affected. That's outside my experience.

It is a external hard drive plugged to another computer than the first
one with the file corruption problem.

This corrupted files are from a internal hard drive which was in a dead
computer. I backup the file and now I just want to clean my external HDD.

Pétùr

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#200276

FromDavid Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk>
Date2018-09-18 17:30 +0200
Message-ID<wzq6R-3OS-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#200273
On Tue 18 Sep 2018 at 16:11:09 (+0200), Pétùr wrote:
> Le 18/09/2018 à 15:46, David Wright a écrit :
> >> How can I delete these files without formating ?
> > To what end? I think you've now got an indication of a problem
> > somewhat more serious than some software dreaming up crazy
> > file permissions and timestamps.
> > 
> > I would now be looking at rescuing everything you can from the drive
> > without prejudicing any backups you already have. Meanwhile I'd be
> > trying to determine the source of this corruption. It's rather
> > worrying that you've had both internal and external drives
> > affected. That's outside my experience.
> 
> It is a external hard drive plugged to another computer than the first
> one with the file corruption problem.
> 
> This corrupted files are from a internal hard drive which was in a dead
> computer. I backup the file and now I just want to clean my external HDD.

Well at least this drive has an excuse for being corrupted. If the
computer died, it may have left the disk in any sort of state.
But I see no reason to change strategy: rescue what you can and then
see what fsck can do. But I'd be unhappy about using the disk without
some thorough checking.

Cheers,
David.

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