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mailing list vs "the futur"

Started bytech <tech@rkn.ovh>
First post2018-08-09 19:40 +0200
Last post2018-10-04 14:10 +0200
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  mailing list vs "the futur" tech <tech@rkn.ovh> - 2018-08-09 19:40 +0200
    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-08-09 19:50 +0200
      RE: mailing list vs "the futur" tech <tech@rkn.ovh> - 2018-08-09 20:10 +0200
        RE: mailing list vs "the futur" tech <tech@rkn.ovh> - 2018-08-09 20:20 +0200
          RE: mailing list vs "the futur" deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2018-08-10 01:30 +0200
        Re: mailing list vs "the futur" David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-08-10 03:10 +0200
        Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2018-08-10 12:30 +0200
          Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Rich Kulawiec <rsk@gsp.org> - 2018-08-10 13:30 +0200
            Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-08-10 14:00 +0200
            Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-10 14:00 +0200
              Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> - 2018-08-10 14:40 +0200
                Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-10 15:00 +0200
                Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-10 15:10 +0200
              Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Rich Kulawiec <rsk@gsp.org> - 2018-08-10 14:50 +0200
                Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dave Sherohman <dave@sherohman.org> - 2018-08-10 15:00 +0200
                  Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2018-08-10 16:20 +0200
                Re: mailing list vs "the futur" The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2018-08-10 15:00 +0200
                  Re: mailing list vs "the futur" cyaiplexys <cyaiplexys@sitesplace.net> - 2018-08-10 18:00 +0200
                Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2018-08-10 15:20 +0200
                Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-10 15:30 +0200
                  Re: mailing list vs "the futur" "Michelle Konzack" <linux4michelle@tamay-dogan.net> - 2018-08-11 11:00 +0200
                    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-12 14:30 +0200
                Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-10 15:30 +0200
              Re: mailing list vs "the futur" "Michelle Konzack" <linux4michelle@tamay-dogan.net> - 2018-08-11 10:40 +0200
              Re: Re: mailing list vs "the futur" dekkzz78@gmail.com - 2018-08-11 11:10 +0200
            Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> - 2018-08-12 15:50 +0200
          Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-10 13:50 +0200
            Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2018-08-10 16:20 +0200
            Re: mailing list vs "the futur" rhkramer@gmail.com - 2018-08-23 22:10 +0200
              Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2018-08-23 22:30 +0200
                Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 03:50 +0200
      Re: mailing list vs "the futur" "James H. H. Lampert" <jamesl@touchtonecorp.com> - 2018-08-09 21:30 +0200
      Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-10 12:30 +0200
      Re: mailing list vs "the futur" rhkramer@gmail.com - 2018-08-23 21:30 +0200
        Re: mailing list vs "the futur" "Martin McCormick" <martin.m@suddenlink.net> - 2018-08-23 23:00 +0200
        Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Piotr Martyniuk <zaxonxp45@gmail.com> - 2018-08-24 08:10 +0200
          Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> - 2018-08-24 08:30 +0200
            Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Piotr Martyniuk <zaxonxp45@gmail.com> - 2018-08-24 09:00 +0200
              Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> - 2018-08-24 11:50 +0200
          Re: mailing list vs "the futur" "Michelle Konzack" <linux4michelle@tamay-dogan.net> - 2018-08-24 21:00 +0200
            Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2018-08-24 21:20 +0200
              Re: mailing list vs "the futur" The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2018-08-24 22:40 +0200
                Re: mailing list vs "the futur" John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-24 23:50 +0200
                  Re: mailing list vs "the futur" David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-08-25 01:10 +0200
                    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-25 02:20 +0200
                      Re: mailing list vs "the futur" David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-08-25 21:10 +0200
                        Re: mailing list vs "the futur" John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-25 21:30 +0200
                          Re: mailing list vs "the futur" David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-08-27 17:20 +0200
                            Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-27 17:40 +0200
                              Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2018-08-27 18:30 +0200
                                Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-27 22:20 +0200
                                  Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2018-08-27 22:30 +0200
                                  Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Mark Rousell <mark.rousell@signal100.com> - 2018-08-28 10:20 +0200
                                    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-28 13:50 +0200
                                      Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Mark Rousell <mark.rousell@signal100.com> - 2018-08-28 15:10 +0200
                                        Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-28 15:50 +0200
                                          Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-28 16:40 +0200
                                            Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-28 20:00 +0200
                                        Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-28 16:30 +0200
                                          Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-28 16:30 +0200
                                            Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-28 16:40 +0200
                                              Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-28 17:10 +0200
                                          Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Mark Rousell <mark.rousell@signal100.com> - 2018-08-28 17:50 +0200
                                            Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-28 21:10 +0200
                                              Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-29 00:40 +0200
                                                Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Mark Rousell <mark.rousell@signal100.com> - 2018-08-29 01:20 +0200
                                                  Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-29 03:10 +0200
                                                    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-29 03:40 +0200
                                                    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-29 09:20 +0200
                                                      Re: mailing list vs "the futur" John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-29 17:40 +0200
                                                        Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-08-29 17:50 +0200
                                                          Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-29 18:10 +0200
                                                            Re: mailing list vs "the futur" John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-29 19:30 +0200
                                                              Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-08-29 19:40 +0200
                                                                Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-30 12:00 +0200
                                                                  Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-08-30 14:50 +0200
                                                                    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-30 15:50 +0200
                                                                      Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-08-30 21:30 +0200
                                                                        Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-31 12:00 +0200
                                                                      Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dave Sherohman <dave@sherohman.org> - 2018-09-04 12:30 +0200
                                                                        Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-09-04 14:00 +0200
                                                                          Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-09-04 15:30 +0200
                                                                            Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-09-04 17:20 +0200
                                                                              Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-09-04 18:10 +0200
                                                                                Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-09-04 18:30 +0200
                                                                                  Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-09-04 19:50 +0200
                                                                                    [Off-topic] Was: mailing list vs "the futur" John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-04 20:20 +0200
                                                                                      Re: [Off-topic] Was: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-09-04 20:30 +0200
                                                                                    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Liam O'Toole <liam.p.otoole@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 03:10 +0200
                                                                                      Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-09-05 04:10 +0200
                                                                                        Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2018-09-05 09:50 +0200
                                                                                Re: mailing list vs "the futur" John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-04 20:00 +0200
                                                                                  Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-09-04 20:30 +0200
                                                                                    [Off-topic] Was: mailing list vs "the futur" John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-04 20:50 +0200
                                                                                      Re: [Off-topic] Was: mailing list vs "the futur" Default User <hunguponcontent@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 21:20 +0200
                                                                                        Re: [Off-topic] Was: mailing list vs "the futur" Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2018-09-04 21:50 +0200
                                                                          Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2018-09-04 17:20 +0200
                                                                        Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-09-04 15:20 +0200
                                                                          Re: mailing list vs "the futur" "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2018-09-04 16:00 +0200
                                                            Re: mailing list vs "the futur" mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 12:00 +0200
                                                              Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-09-01 12:40 +0200
                                                          Re: mailing list vs "the futur" John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-29 18:10 +0200
                                                        Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2018-08-29 19:00 +0200
                                              Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2018-08-29 02:40 +0200
                                                Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-29 09:40 +0200
                                                  Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-29 12:00 +0200
                                                    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-29 12:10 +0200
                                                      Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-29 12:20 +0200
                                                    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-29 12:20 +0200
                                                      Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-29 12:50 +0200
                                                        Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-29 13:10 +0200
                                                          Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-29 14:40 +0200
                                                            Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-29 14:40 +0200
                                                              Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-29 15:00 +0200
                                                            Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-29 17:00 +0200
                                                              Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-29 18:10 +0200
                                                                Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-29 21:20 +0200
                                                                  Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-30 12:10 +0200
                                                                    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-30 14:20 +0200
                                                      Re: mailing list vs "the futur" John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-29 17:40 +0200
                                                        Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-29 21:10 +0200
                                                          Re: mailing list vs "the futur" John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-30 00:50 +0200
                                                          Re: mailing list vs "the futur" David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-08-30 01:00 +0200
                                                      Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Bob Bernstein <poobah@ruptured-duck.com> - 2018-09-01 20:10 +0200
                                                        Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-09-01 22:50 +0200
                                                          Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Bob Bernstein <poobah@ruptured-duck.com> - 2018-09-01 23:30 +0200
                                                            Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-09-02 10:00 +0200
                                                              Re: mailing list vs "the futur" John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-02 15:00 +0200
                                                                Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-09-02 15:20 +0200
                                                                  Re: mailing list vs "the futur" John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-02 16:10 +0200
                                                                    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2018-09-02 16:40 +0200
                                                                      Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2018-09-02 17:20 +0200
                                                                        Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-09-02 18:20 +0200
                                                                      Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-09-02 17:20 +0200
                                                                    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-09-02 18:00 +0200
                                                                    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-09-02 18:00 +0200
                                                                      Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Bob Bernstein <poobah@ruptured-duck.com> - 2018-09-03 07:30 +0200
                                                                        Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> - 2018-09-03 08:10 +0200
                                                                      Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2018-09-03 07:40 +0200
                                                                        Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-09-03 13:00 +0200
                                                                          Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2018-09-03 15:50 +0200
                                                                            Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-09-03 16:30 +0200
                                                                    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2018-09-03 13:30 +0200
                                                    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-29 12:20 +0200
                                                    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2018-08-29 12:40 +0200
                                                    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 11:50 +0200
                                                      Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-09-01 16:00 +0200
                                                  Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-29 13:00 +0200
                                                    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-29 13:20 +0200
                                                    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-29 13:40 +0200
                                                      Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-08-29 14:00 +0200
                                                        Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-29 14:00 +0200
                                                          Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-08-29 14:10 +0200
                                                            Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-29 14:30 +0200
                                                            Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-29 14:30 +0200
                                                              Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-29 14:40 +0200
                                                              Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-08-29 14:50 +0200
                                                              Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-08-29 14:50 +0200
                                                                Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-29 15:30 +0200
                                                              Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-29 14:50 +0200
                                                              Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-29 14:50 +0200
                                  Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-28 14:00 +0200
                                Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-28 01:10 +0200
                                  Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-28 09:50 +0200
                                    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-28 13:20 +0200
                                      Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Mark Rousell <mark.rousell@signal100.com> - 2018-08-28 14:20 +0200
                                        Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-28 15:00 +0200
                                          Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Mark Rousell <mark.rousell@signal100.com> - 2018-08-28 16:00 +0200
                                            Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-28 16:30 +0200
                                              Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Mark Rousell <mark.rousell@signal100.com> - 2018-08-28 18:00 +0200
                                              Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Mark Rousell <mark.rousell@signal100.com> - 2018-08-28 18:10 +0200
                                                Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-28 19:50 +0200
                                                  Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2018-08-28 20:30 +0200
                                                    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Mark Rousell <mark.rousell@signal100.com> - 2018-08-28 20:40 +0200
                                                      Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Mark Rousell <mark.rousell@signal100.com> - 2018-08-28 20:50 +0200
                                                  Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Mark Rousell <mark.rousell@signal100.com> - 2018-08-28 20:30 +0200
                                                    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-28 22:30 +0200
                                            Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Mark Rousell <mark.rousell@signal100.com> - 2018-08-28 18:00 +0200
                                              Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-28 19:50 +0200
                                                Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2018-08-28 20:30 +0200
                                        Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Mark Rousell <mark.rousell@signal100.com> - 2018-08-28 16:10 +0200
                                  Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Mark Rousell <mark.rousell@signal100.com> - 2018-08-28 10:20 +0200
                              Re: mailing list vs "the futur" David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-08-27 19:10 +0200
                                Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-28 01:20 +0200
                                Re: mailing list vs "the futur" John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-28 05:50 +0200
                    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-08-25 12:20 +0200
                      Re: mailing list vs "the futur" John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-25 14:20 +0200
                        Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-08-25 15:30 +0200
        Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> - 2018-08-24 15:30 +0200
          Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-24 18:20 +0200
            Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-08-24 18:40 +0200
              Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2018-08-24 19:20 +0200
                Re: mailing list vs "the futur" "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2018-08-24 19:50 +0200
                Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2018-08-24 19:50 +0200
                  Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2018-08-24 20:10 +0200
                    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2018-08-24 20:30 +0200
                      Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2018-08-24 20:50 +0200
                      Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> - 2018-08-25 01:40 +0200
                      Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dave Sherohman <dave@sherohman.org> - 2018-08-27 10:20 +0200
                        Re: mailing list vs "the futur" rhkramer@gmail.com - 2018-08-27 13:50 +0200
                          Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-27 14:20 +0200
                          Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-27 16:00 +0200
                        Re: Re: mailing list vs "the futur" dekkzz78@gmail.com - 2018-08-27 16:20 +0200
                          Re: mailing list vs "the futur" rhkramer@gmail.com - 2018-08-27 17:30 +0200
                    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2018-08-25 10:00 +0200
                  Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> - 2018-08-25 02:50 +0200
    Re: mailing list is the future (corrected spelling mistakes) Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2018-08-09 20:10 +0200
    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2018-08-09 21:10 +0200
      Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> - 2018-08-12 16:00 +0200
    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Ben Finney <bignose@debian.org> - 2018-08-09 22:20 +0200
      Re: mailing list vs "the futur" "Michelle Konzack" <linux4michelle@tamay-dogan.net> - 2018-08-11 11:10 +0200
        Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> - 2018-08-12 16:10 +0200
    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Rich Kulawiec <rsk@gsp.org> - 2018-08-10 01:40 +0200
      Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Mark Rousell <mark.rousell@signal100.com> - 2018-08-11 00:00 +0200
      Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Rob van der Putten <rob@sput.nl> - 2018-08-11 11:50 +0200
      Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> - 2018-08-12 16:20 +0200
        Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2018-08-12 20:10 +0200
          Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-13 12:30 +0200
            Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> - 2018-08-13 16:00 +0200
        Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-13 12:30 +0200
    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2018-08-10 10:30 +0200
    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2018-08-10 12:00 +0200
      Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Shea Alterio <krusete@gmail.com> - 2018-08-10 18:50 +0200
    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-10 12:50 +0200
      Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2018-08-11 14:30 +0200
        Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-11 15:30 +0200
          Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-08-13 15:30 +0200
            Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-13 16:00 +0200
              Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> - 2018-08-13 16:20 +0200
    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Mark Rousell <mark.rousell@signal100.com> - 2018-08-11 00:00 +0200
      Re: mailing list vs "the futur" arne <sp113438@telfort.nl> - 2018-08-11 00:50 +0200
    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" dekkzz78@gmail.com - 2018-08-11 11:00 +0200
    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> - 2018-10-04 06:10 +0200
      Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2018-10-04 10:10 +0200
    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> - 2018-10-04 06:10 +0200
      Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 14:10 +0200

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#199609

FromGene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date2018-08-29 21:10 +0200
Message-ID<wse0N-3ch-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#199589
On Wednesday 29 August 2018 11:33:48 John Hasler wrote:

> Gene writes:
> > Yes, but fetchmails delete is ignored, so I have to keep the email
> > cleaned out with a web browser...
>
> Why in hell are you using that provider?

This is WV.  Its the only game in the area.

-- 
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#199622

FromJohn Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com>
Date2018-08-30 00:50 +0200
Message-ID<wshrH-52h-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#199609
Gene writes:
> Yes, but fetchmails delete is ignored, so I have to keep the email
> cleaned out with a web browser...

I wrote:
> Why in hell are you using that provider?

Gene writes:
> This is WV.  Its the only game in the area.

Your ISP needn't be your email provider.
-- 
John Hasler 
jhasler@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA

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#199623

FromDavid Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk>
Date2018-08-30 01:00 +0200
Message-ID<wshBo-55t-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#199609
On Wed 29 Aug 2018 at 15:07:31 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Wednesday 29 August 2018 11:33:48 John Hasler wrote:
> 
> > Gene writes:
> > > Yes, but fetchmails delete is ignored, so I have to keep the email
> > > cleaned out with a web browser...
> >
> > Why in hell are you using that provider?
> 
> This is WV.  Its the only game in the area.

That's why I agreed with tomás in the other thread. (You replied to my
post with "I've had the same physical address for 29 years this fall.")

With your own domain, you are independent of the ISP's own email
service, and if you don't like the software on your email server,
you can transfer your domain to a host that gives you better
service with satisfactory software.

I selected my host on the basis of their service (availability and
usage limits) and the server (IMAP, encrypted), so it would be
pointless to have my emails forwarded to another hosting service (eg
my ISP) as suggested with Gandi (in the same thread). That's despite
the fact that they're rather a long way away.

Cheers,
David.

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#199688

FromBob Bernstein <poobah@ruptured-duck.com>
Date2018-09-01 20:10 +0200
Message-ID<wtivn-5M-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#199552
About this ISP that prevents fetchmail from deleting messages
after they're downloaded, may one ask, "Cui bono?"

How is it in their interest to provide this um feature?

-- 
Poobah

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#199689

FromGene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date2018-09-01 22:50 +0200
Message-ID<wtl0e-1nH-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#199688
On Saturday 01 September 2018 13:54:40 Bob Bernstein wrote:

> About this ISP that prevents fetchmail from deleting messages
> after they're downloaded, may one ask, "Cui bono?"
>
> How is it in their interest to provide this um feature?

It prevents the deletion of emails that the same login client, on a 
different box setup for imap, from  losing their email corpus. And 
dovecot doesn't have an individual client config choice that they could 
enable just for the 3 or 4 of us that use fetchmail or its workalike 
cousins (getmail?) and keep our own email corpus in tde-kmail. I can and 
do clean up with a web browser as the webmail interface does let you 
clean it out. So I do that about daily.

-- 
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#199690

FromBob Bernstein <poobah@ruptured-duck.com>
Date2018-09-01 23:30 +0200
Message-ID<wtlCW-1OO-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#199689
On Sat, 1 Sep 2018, Gene Heskett wrote:

> It prevents the deletion of emails that the same login client, 
> on a different box setup for imap, from losing their email 
> corpus.

This sounds like "I'm from the government. I'm here to help you 
not harm yourself."

It's just more dumbing down to the lowest common denominator 
Gene, and it means less freedom of choice for the glue-enabled 
in order to spare the others their daily ration of embarrassment.

That's my story and I may, or may not, stick to it.

-- 
But at least let us have no more nonsense about defending 
liberty against Fascism. If liberty means anything at all 
it means the right to tell people what they do not want to 
hear.
                       Orwell (see http://bit.ly/2MSWhoB)

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#199695

From<tomas@tuxteam.de>
Date2018-09-02 10:00 +0200
Message-ID<wtvsB-7qQ-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#199690
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On Sat, Sep 01, 2018 at 05:22:34PM -0400, Bob Bernstein wrote:
> On Sat, 1 Sep 2018, Gene Heskett wrote:
> 
> >It prevents the deletion of emails that the same login client, on
> >a different box setup for imap, from losing their email corpus.
> 
> This sounds like "I'm from the government. I'm here to help you not
> harm yourself."

This is what I call "Emergent Evil". Emergent behaviour "just happens"
at a higher organizational level, without the involved individuals
"knowing" what they are doing. Like an anthill developing a "new"
behaviour different of that of an ant.

In this case, the driving force may well be that it's more hassle for
the ISP to deal with the furious customer who's just lost five years
of mail archives by his/her own dumb mistake than with those others
grudgingly clicking their way through that (invariably horrible)
Web "interface".

To note, and to try to address the "cui bono"? question, the real
profits go to the silos (Facebook, Microsoft, Google et al): by
making mail hardly bearable, those are going to reap the benefits.

Since they have some control over the mail clients too (ever used
Outlook? 'Nuff said), I'm sure they do help to make the water in
the well less tasty, to "help" people in the decision to buy their
bottled water.

It's not a downright conspiracy. It's more subtle. Those bigcorps
are masters in riding this pattern I call Emergent Evil. Otherwise
they wouldn't exist.

> It's just more dumbing down to the lowest common denominator Gene,
> and it means less freedom of choice for the glue-enabled in order to
> spare the others their daily ration of embarrassment.
> 
> That's my story and I may, or may not, stick to it.

I already mentioned posteo.de and mailbox.org. I'm sure you can use
IMAP there as it was intended to work. My challenge to you all: find
a similar service in your country (i.e. a mail service which may cost
something, but not much: e.g. around 1x minimum hourly wage in your
country/year), and where *you* are the customer, not the procuct.
Donation-based is also fair game. The kind of service you'd recommend
your best friend.

In the US, perhaps riseup.net?

Post it here.

Cheers
- -- tomás
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#199699

FromJohn Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com>
Date2018-09-02 15:00 +0200
Message-ID<wtA8V-1FH-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#199695
tomás writes:
> In the US, perhaps riseup.net?

I prefer newsguy.com .  They are not experiencing a financial crisis and
have been in business for more than twenty years.  I've been satisfied
with their service for most of this century.
-- 
John Hasler 
jhasler@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA

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#199700

FromCurt <curty@free.fr>
Date2018-09-02 15:20 +0200
Message-ID<wtAsh-20X-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#199699
On 2018-09-02, John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> wrote:
> tomás writes:
>> In the US, perhaps riseup.net?
>
> I prefer newsguy.com .  They are not experiencing a financial crisis and
> have been in business for more than twenty years.  I've been satisfied
> with their service for most of this century.

This facetiously protracted OT thread kicked off by a long-gone troll
has renewed my interest in the venerable STFU protocol, which might be
immediately employed for this specific exchange to the utmost
bandwidth-economizing effect.

;-) (kinda)

-- 
"She understands everything, recognizes everyone, but through her half sleep,
she simply cannot understand what power binds her hand and foot, oppresses her,
and keeps her from living."  -- Anton Chekhov, “Sleepy”

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#199701

FromJohn Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com>
Date2018-09-02 16:10 +0200
Message-ID<wtBeF-2w2-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#199700
Curt writes:
> This facetiously protracted OT thread kicked off by a long-gone troll
> has renewed my interest in the venerable STFU protocol, which might be
> immediately employed for this specific exchange to the utmost
> bandwidth-economizing effect.

Some email clients have filtering.  Get one.
-- 
John Hasler 
jhasler@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA

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#199702

FromNicolas George <george@nsup.org>
Date2018-09-02 16:40 +0200
Message-ID<wtBHH-2F4-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#199701
John Hasler (2018-09-02):
> Some email clients have filtering.  Get one.

This kind of answer is despicable. You would deserve that Curt
subscribes your address to all junk mail lists he can find. You would
just have to filter them.

Regards,

-- 
  Nicolas George

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#199704

FromNicolas George <george@nsup.org>
Date2018-09-02 17:20 +0200
Message-ID<wtCkq-36V-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#199702

[Multipart message — attachments visible in raw view] — view raw

Dan Purgert (2018-09-02):
> Difference is, Curt chose to subscribe to this list, which happens to
> carry this thread

This list is about using Debian.
This thread is not.
Therefore, this thread is pollution on this list.

I will personally refrain from polluting further.

Regards,

-- 
  Nicolas George

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#199710

FromJoe <joe@jretrading.com>
Date2018-09-02 18:20 +0200
Message-ID<wtDgt-3EV-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#199704
On Sun, 2 Sep 2018 17:14:02 +0200
Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> wrote:


> 
> This list is about using Debian.

It's called 'debian-user'. Which of the contributors are you suggesting
are not Debian users?

-- 
Joe

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#199706

FromDan Purgert <dan@djph.net>
Date2018-09-02 17:20 +0200
Message-ID<wtCkq-36V-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#199702
Nicolas George wrote:
> John Hasler (2018-09-02):
>> Some email clients have filtering.  Get one.
>
> This kind of answer is despicable. You would deserve that Curt
> subscribes your address to all junk mail lists he can find. You would
> just have to filter them.
>

Difference is, Curt chose to subscribe to this list, which happens to
carry this thread that he doesn't want to read ... and to which he told
John (if not everyone participating) to STFU.

The response then - "filter this out" - is perfectly valid.

-- 
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|_|_|O| Github: https://github.com/dpurgert
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#199708

FromGene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date2018-09-02 18:00 +0200
Message-ID<wtCX8-3jy-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#199701
On Sunday 02 September 2018 10:06:07 John Hasler wrote:

> Curt writes:
> > This facetiously protracted OT thread kicked off by a long-gone
> > troll has renewed my interest in the venerable STFU protocol, which
> > might be immediately employed for this specific exchange to the
> > utmost bandwidth-economizing effect.
>
> Some email clients have filtering.  Get one.


+ at least 1 John. TDE's kmail works pretty good.


-- 
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#199709

FromCurt <curty@free.fr>
Date2018-09-02 18:00 +0200
Message-ID<wtCX8-3jy-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#199701
On 2018-09-02, John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> wrote:
> Curt writes:
>> This facetiously protracted OT thread kicked off by a long-gone troll
>> has renewed my interest in the venerable STFU protocol, which might be
>> immediately employed for this specific exchange to the utmost
>> bandwidth-economizing effect.
>
> Some email clients have filtering.  Get one.

I knew you were humorless, but this endless OT thread is spam and
now represents a considerable pollutive presence in the archives.

You are far from the most egregious participant but are a participant
nonetheless, and more than once.

Filter yourself.

-- 
"She understands everything, recognizes everyone, but through her half sleep,
she simply cannot understand what power binds her hand and foot, oppresses her,
and keeps her from living."  -- Anton Chekhov, “Sleepy”

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#199718

FromBob Bernstein <poobah@ruptured-duck.com>
Date2018-09-03 07:30 +0200
Message-ID<wtPB0-2zy-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#199709
On Sun, 2 Sep 2018, Curt wrote:

> You are far from the most egregious participant but are a 
> participant nonetheless, and more than once.

You're *counting*?

You point the finger and accuse, but are not complicit in the 
crime? This is a pose very familiar to all students of 
Nuremberg.


-- 
But at least let us have no more nonsense about defending 
liberty against Fascism. If liberty means anything at all 
it means the right to tell people what they do not want to 
hear.
                                      Orwell

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#199723

FromZenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net>
Date2018-09-03 08:10 +0200
Message-ID<wtQdH-30Y-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#199718
On Mon, Sep 03, 2018 at 01:21:16AM -0400, Bob Bernstein wrote:
> On Sun, 2 Sep 2018, Curt wrote:
> 
> > You are far from the most egregious participant but are a participant
> > nonetheless, and more than once.
> 
> You're *counting*?
> 
> You point the finger and accuse, but are not complicit in the crime? This is a
> pose very familiar to all students of Nuremberg.

Aaaand ... it's Gone^BGodwin's law.

Oblig Simpson's clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGwZVGKG30s

Oblig Nazi pug: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UD_QlnY8Ggg

:D

Sieg Heil‼

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#199720

FromEric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk>
Date2018-09-03 07:40 +0200
Message-ID<wtPKF-2CA-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#199709
On Sunday,  2 Sep 2018 at 15:51, Curt wrote:

[...]

> I knew you were humorless, but this endless OT thread is spam and
> now represents a considerable pollutive presence in the archives.

Well, I for one, have been enjoying it (or, at least, until somebody
told somebody else to STFU).  I use Debian.  I use mailing lists
(including linux.debian.user).  Doesn't seem OT to me.

Chill all.

-- 
Eric S Fraga via Emacs 27.0.50 & org 9.1.13 on Debian buster/sid

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#199729

FromDan Purgert <dan@djph.net>
Date2018-09-03 13:00 +0200
Message-ID<wtUKm-5pI-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#199720
Eric S Fraga wrote:
> On Sunday,  2 Sep 2018 at 15:51, Curt wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>> I knew you were humorless, but this endless OT thread is spam and
>> now represents a considerable pollutive presence in the archives.
>
> Well, I for one, have been enjoying it (or, at least, until somebody
> told somebody else to STFU).  I use Debian.  I use mailing lists
> (including linux.debian.user).  Doesn't seem OT to me.

That was my take on the matter as well - or at least it was a suggestion
that perhaps the debian lists "move away from these 'old' communication
channels".


-- 
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