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painted into a corner

Started byGene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
First post2018-08-19 21:50 +0200
Last post2018-08-23 06:10 +0200
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  painted into a corner Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-19 21:50 +0200
    Re: painted into a corner john doe <johndoe65534@mail.com> - 2018-08-19 22:40 +0200
      Re: painted into a corner Eike Lantzsch <zp6cge@gmx.net> - 2018-08-19 23:20 +0200
        Re: painted into a corner Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-20 00:00 +0200
          Re: painted into a corner Eike Lantzsch <zp6cge@gmx.net> - 2018-08-20 14:30 +0200
            Re: painted into a corner Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-20 16:30 +0200
    Re: painted into a corner David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-08-19 23:40 +0200
      Re: painted into a corner Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-20 03:10 +0200
        Re: painted into a corner Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-20 20:00 +0200
          Re: painted into a corner Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-08-20 20:10 +0200
        Re: painted into a corner Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-08-20 20:00 +0200
          Re: painted into a corner Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-20 22:50 +0200
            Re: painted into a corner Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> - 2018-08-21 01:50 +0200
              Re: painted into a corner David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-08-21 02:20 +0200
                Re: painted into a corner Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> - 2018-08-21 03:20 +0200
    Re: painted into a corner David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2018-08-20 06:20 +0200
    Re: painted into a corner Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> - 2018-08-20 07:10 +0200
    Re: painted into a corner Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-20 15:40 +0200
      Re: painted into a corner Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-20 16:40 +0200
        Re: painted into a corner Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-20 17:20 +0200
          Re: painted into a corner Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-20 22:30 +0200
            Re: painted into a corner Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-20 23:10 +0200
              Re: painted into a corner Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> - 2018-08-21 02:00 +0200
                Re: painted into a corner Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-21 03:20 +0200
                  Re: painted into a corner Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> - 2018-08-21 03:30 +0200
            Re: painted into a corner David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-08-21 02:10 +0200
              Re: painted into a corner Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-21 03:30 +0200
                Re: painted into a corner Timothy M Butterworth <timothy.m.butterworth@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 03:40 +0200
                Re: painted into a corner Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-08-21 14:40 +0200
    Re: painted into a corner Andrew McGlashan <andrew.mcglashan@affinityvision.com.au> - 2018-08-20 17:30 +0200
      Re: painted into a corner Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-20 22:30 +0200
        Re: painted into a corner Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2018-08-21 03:20 +0200
          Re: painted into a corner David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-08-21 19:40 +0200
            Re: painted into a corner Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 00:40 +0200
    Re: painted into a corner Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 00:40 +0200
      Re: painted into a corner Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-22 02:30 +0200
        Re: painted into a corner Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-22 03:10 +0200
        Re: painted into a corner Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2018-08-22 04:00 +0200
          Re: painted into a corner Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-22 04:30 +0200
        Re: painted into a corner Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2018-08-22 04:10 +0200
          Re: painted into a corner Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-22 04:30 +0200
            Re: painted into a corner David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2018-08-22 05:10 +0200
              Re: painted into a corner Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-22 05:30 +0200
                Re: painted into a corner David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2018-08-23 03:20 +0200
              Re: painted into a corner Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-23 06:10 +0200

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#199214

FromGene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date2018-08-22 04:30 +0200
Message-ID<wpr4d-1We-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#199213
On Tuesday 21 August 2018 22:08:07 Felix Miata wrote:

> Gene Heskett composed on 2018-08-21 20:29 (UTC-0400):
> > it will not install grub on anything but /dev/sda.
>
> I've been scratching my head trying to remember the details of
> bootloader installation in debian-installer and coming up nada, except
> for somehow being able to specify /dev/null as location, let it
> complain about bootloader installation failure, and not have it
> corrupt my existing bootloader configuration, which always includes
> generic/legacy compatible MBR code.

Exactly my concern given the bull in a china shop attitude the installer 
seems to have.


-- 
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#199218

FromDavid Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com>
Date2018-08-22 05:10 +0200
Message-ID<wprGV-2ov-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#199214
On 08/21/2018 07:29 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Tuesday 21 August 2018 22:08:07 Felix Miata wrote:
> 
>> Gene Heskett composed on 2018-08-21 20:29 (UTC-0400):
>>> it will not install grub on anything but /dev/sda.
>>
>> I've been scratching my head trying to remember the details of
>> bootloader installation in debian-installer and coming up nada, except
>> for somehow being able to specify /dev/null as location, let it
>> complain about bootloader installation failure, and not have it
>> corrupt my existing bootloader configuration, which always includes
>> generic/legacy compatible MBR code.
> 
> Exactly my concern given the bull in a china shop attitude the installer
> seems to have.

Are you using the d-i in standard "install" mode, or in "advanced -> 
expert" mode?  The latter gives you much more control.


David

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#199219

FromGene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date2018-08-22 05:30 +0200
Message-ID<wps0h-2ux-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#199218
On Tuesday 21 August 2018 23:03:29 David Christensen wrote:

> On 08/21/2018 07:29 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Tuesday 21 August 2018 22:08:07 Felix Miata wrote:
> >> Gene Heskett composed on 2018-08-21 20:29 (UTC-0400):
> >>> it will not install grub on anything but /dev/sda.
> >>
> >> I've been scratching my head trying to remember the details of
> >> bootloader installation in debian-installer and coming up nada,
> >> except for somehow being able to specify /dev/null as location, let
> >> it complain about bootloader installation failure, and not have it
> >> corrupt my existing bootloader configuration, which always includes
> >> generic/legacy compatible MBR code.
> >
> > Exactly my concern given the bull in a china shop attitude the
> > installer seems to have.
>
> Are you using the d-i in standard "install" mode, or in "advanced ->
> expert" mode?  The latter gives you much more control.
>
>
> David

I think I tried that on the first attempt, but the acronyms weren't 
familiar. So I backed out.


-- 
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#199259

FromDavid Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com>
Date2018-08-23 03:20 +0200
Message-ID<wpMs1-6cy-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#199219
On 08/21/2018 08:25 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Tuesday 21 August 2018 23:03:29 David Christensen wrote:
>> Are you using the d-i in standard "install" mode, or in "advanced ->
>> expert" mode?  The latter gives you much more control.
> 
> I think I tried that on the first attempt, but the acronyms weren't
> familiar. So I backed out.

I think you would find researching and understanding the d-i advanced 
acronyms to be worth the time and effort, especially given your 
specialized uses of Debian GNU/ Linux.


I do not recall seeing any comments on my prior suggestions (?):

     https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2018/08/msg00955.html


David

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#199269

FromGene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date2018-08-23 06:10 +0200
Message-ID<wpP6y-7UH-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#199218
On Tuesday 21 August 2018 23:03:29 David Christensen wrote:

> On 08/21/2018 07:29 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Tuesday 21 August 2018 22:08:07 Felix Miata wrote:
> >> Gene Heskett composed on 2018-08-21 20:29 (UTC-0400):
> >>> it will not install grub on anything but /dev/sda.
> >>
> >> I've been scratching my head trying to remember the details of
> >> bootloader installation in debian-installer and coming up nada,
> >> except for somehow being able to specify /dev/null as location, let
> >> it complain about bootloader installation failure, and not have it
> >> corrupt my existing bootloader configuration, which always includes
> >> generic/legacy compatible MBR code.
> >
> > Exactly my concern given the bull in a china shop attitude the
> > installer seems to have.
>
> Are you using the d-i in standard "install" mode, or in "advanced ->
> expert" mode?  The latter gives you much more control.
>
I think I did answer this once before David, but I was useing what looked 
to be a simple install, 1 up from the advanced gui install at the bottom 
of the start screen list.

I've been busy getting a verdict and script from the doc today, bought a 
new shredder to replace the one that has a split personality, then 
caring for the missus, and have not tried another install, but will 
tommorrow using the Advanced mode.
>
> David



-- 
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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