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  Repository Problem "Stephen P. Molnar" <s.molnar@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-08-17 21:10 +0200
    Re: Repository Problem Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-08-17 21:30 +0200
      Re: Repository Problem "Stephen P. Molnar" <s.molnar@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-08-17 21:40 +0200
        Re: Repository Problem Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-08-17 22:00 +0200
      Re: Repository Problem Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2018-08-17 22:10 +0200
        Re: Repository Problem "Stephen P. Molnar" <s.molnar@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-08-17 23:30 +0200
    Re: Repository Problem john doe <johndoe65534@mail.com> - 2018-08-17 22:00 +0200
      Re: Repository Problem Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-08-17 23:40 +0200
        Re: Repository Problem Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-08-20 15:00 +0200
          Re: Repository Problem john doe <johndoe65534@mail.com> - 2018-08-20 15:30 +0200
    Re: Repository Problem David <bouncingcats@gmail.com> - 2018-08-18 12:20 +0200
      Re: Repository Problem Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2018-08-18 16:30 +0200
        Re: Repository Problem "Stephen P. Molnar" <s.molnar@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-08-18 17:20 +0200
          Re: Repository Problem Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2018-08-18 18:00 +0200
            Re: Repository Problem "Stephen P. Molnar" <s.molnar@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-08-18 19:50 +0200
              Re: Repository Problem Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-08-18 20:00 +0200
                Re: Repository Problem "Stephen P. Molnar" <s.molnar@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-08-18 21:00 +0200
                  Re: Repository Problem Cindy-Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 03:40 +0200
                    Re: Repository Problem mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 06:00 +0200
                      Re: Repository Problem "Stephen P. Molnar" <s.molnar@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-08-19 14:50 +0200
                  Re: Repository Problem Freek de Kruijf <f.de.kruijf@gmail.com> - 2018-08-19 14:30 +0200
                    Re: Repository Problem "Stephen P. Molnar" <s.molnar@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-08-19 14:50 +0200
              Re: Repository Problem Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-08-18 20:10 +0200
              Re: Repository Problem Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2018-08-18 21:00 +0200

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#198954 — Repository Problem

I have just installed Stretch on a new SSD on my platform.

During the installation I selected the University of Chicago mirror and 
accepted the defaults plus backports.

When I fun apt-get install Thunderbird apt-get tries to log on to 
prod.debian.map.fastly.net (2a04:4E42:2c::2040 and hangs. I can't find 
that address anywhere in /etc/apt.  Why am I getting this behavior? Even 
more important, how do I get rid of  the problem?

It is critical as my wife uses Thunderbird for her email.

Any assistance will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

-- 
Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D.
Consultant
www.molecular-modeling.net
(614)312-7528 (c)
Skype: smolnar1

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#198955

On Fri 17 Aug 2018 at 15:00:09 -0400, Stephen P. Molnar wrote:

> I have just installed Stretch on a new SSD on my platform.
> 
> During the installation I selected the University of Chicago mirror and
> accepted the defaults plus backports.
> 
> When I fun apt-get install Thunderbird apt-get tries to log on to
> prod.debian.map.fastly.net (2a04:4E42:2c::2040 and hangs. I can't find that
> address anywhere in /etc/apt.  Why am I getting this behavior? Even more
> important, how do I get rid of  the problem?
> 
> It is critical as my wife uses Thunderbird for her email.
> 
> Any assistance will be greatly appreciated.

Post your /etc/apt/sources.list

-- 
Brian.

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#198957

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Thanks for the reply.

Please see attachemnt.

On 08/17/2018 03:21 PM, Brian wrote:
> On Fri 17 Aug 2018 at 15:00:09 -0400, Stephen P. Molnar wrote:
>
>> I have just installed Stretch on a new SSD on my platform.
>>
>> During the installation I selected the University of Chicago mirror and
>> accepted the defaults plus backports.
>>
>> When I fun apt-get install Thunderbird apt-get tries to log on to
>> prod.debian.map.fastly.net (2a04:4E42:2c::2040 and hangs. I can't find that
>> address anywhere in /etc/apt.  Why am I getting this behavior? Even more
>> important, how do I get rid of  the problem?
>>
>> It is critical as my wife uses Thunderbird for her email.
>>
>> Any assistance will be greatly appreciated.
> Post your /etc/apt/sources.list
>

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#198959

On Fri 17 Aug 2018 at 15:35:08 -0400, Stephen P. Molnar wrote:

> Thanks for the reply.
> 
> Please see attachemnt.
> 
> On 08/17/2018 03:21 PM, Brian wrote:
> > On Fri 17 Aug 2018 at 15:00:09 -0400, Stephen P. Molnar wrote:
> > 
> > > I have just installed Stretch on a new SSD on my platform.
> > > 
> > > During the installation I selected the University of Chicago mirror and
> > > accepted the defaults plus backports.
> > > 
> > > When I fun apt-get install Thunderbird apt-get tries to log on to
> > > prod.debian.map.fastly.net (2a04:4E42:2c::2040 and hangs. I can't find that
> > > address anywhere in /etc/apt.  Why am I getting this behavior? Even more
> > > important, how do I get rid of  the problem?
> > > 
> > > It is critical as my wife uses Thunderbird for her email.
> > > 
> > > Any assistance will be greatly appreciated.
> > Post your /etc/apt/sources.list

Comment everything out and put

deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ stretch main non-free contrib

Go from there.

-- 
Brian.

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#198960

On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 08:21:50PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> On Fri 17 Aug 2018 at 15:00:09 -0400, Stephen P. Molnar wrote:
> 
> > I have just installed Stretch on a new SSD on my platform.
> > 
> > During the installation I selected the University of Chicago mirror and
> > accepted the defaults plus backports.
> > 
> > When I fun apt-get install Thunderbird apt-get tries to log on to
> > prod.debian.map.fastly.net (2a04:4E42:2c::2040 and hangs. I can't find that
> > address anywhere in /etc/apt.  Why am I getting this behavior? Even more
> > important, how do I get rid of  the problem?
> > 
> > It is critical as my wife uses Thunderbird for her email.
> > 
> > Any assistance will be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Post your /etc/apt/sources.list
> 
Do you have any files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/?  If so, post the
contents of those as well.

Regards,

-Roberto

-- 
Roberto C. Sánchez

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#198963

Thanks for he reply.

Nothing there.

On 08/17/2018 04:03 PM, Roberto C. S�nchez wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 08:21:50PM +0100, Brian wrote:
>> On Fri 17 Aug 2018 at 15:00:09 -0400, Stephen P. Molnar wrote:
>>
>>> I have just installed Stretch on a new SSD on my platform.
>>>
>>> During the installation I selected the University of Chicago mirror and
>>> accepted the defaults plus backports.
>>>
>>> When I fun apt-get install Thunderbird apt-get tries to log on to
>>> prod.debian.map.fastly.net (2a04:4E42:2c::2040 and hangs. I can't find that
>>> address anywhere in /etc/apt.  Why am I getting this behavior? Even more
>>> important, how do I get rid of  the problem?
>>>
>>> It is critical as my wife uses Thunderbird for her email.
>>>
>>> Any assistance will be greatly appreciated.
>> Post your /etc/apt/sources.list
>>
> Do you have any files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/?  If so, post the
> contents of those as well.
>
> Regards,
>
> -Roberto
>

-- 
Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D.
Consultant
www.molecular-modeling.net
(614)312-7528 (c)
Skype: smolnar1

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#198958

On 8/17/2018 9:00 PM, Stephen P. Molnar wrote:
> I have just installed Stretch on a new SSD on my platform.
> 
> During the installation I selected the University of Chicago mirror and 
> accepted the defaults plus backports.
> 
> When I fun apt-get install Thunderbird apt-get tries to log on to 
> prod.debian.map.fastly.net (2a04:4E42:2c::2040 and hangs. I can't find 
> that address anywhere in /etc/apt.  Why am I getting this behavior? Even 
> more important, how do I get rid of  the problem?
> 
> It is critical as my wife uses Thunderbird for her email.
> 
> Any assistance will be greatly appreciated.
> 

Here is my '/etc/apt/sources.list' (default after installation):

deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stretch main non-free contrib
deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stretch main non-free contrib

deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security stretch/updates main 
contrib non-free
deb-src http://security.debian.org/debian-security stretch/updates main 
contrib non-free

# stretch-updates, previously known as 'volatile'
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main contrib 
non-free

# stretch-backports, previously on backports.debian.org
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stretch-backports main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stretch-backports main contrib 
non-free

As an aside, you should consider using 'apt' and not 'apt-get'.

Note that this e-mail is folded by my mailer.

-- 
John Doe

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#198964

On Fri 17 Aug 2018 at 21:49:53 +0200, john doe wrote:

> As an aside, you should consider using 'apt' and not 'apt-get'.

Why? What functional difference is there between 'apt-get upgrade' and
'apt-get install' and the apt equivalents?

-- 
Brian.

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#199069

On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 10:32:39PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> On Fri 17 Aug 2018 at 21:49:53 +0200, john doe wrote:
> 
> > As an aside, you should consider using 'apt' and not 'apt-get'.
> 
> Why? What functional difference is there between 'apt-get upgrade' and
> 'apt-get install' and the apt equivalents?

I don't agree with john doe's assertion; I'm just answering the literal
question.

"apt upgrade" will install new packages, if necessary, to satisfy the
upgrade dependencies; "apt-get upgrade" will not.  This is quite visible
every time there's a new kernel ABI bump.

"apt upgrade" or "apt install ..." will remove the *.deb files that
it downloads into /var/cache/apt/archives on this particular run, but
not any pre-existing files there.  "apt-get" will not.

"apt" uses yellow text that is virtually unreadable on a white terminal
background.  "apt-get" does not; it doesn't use ANY colors.

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#199072

On 8/20/2018 2:54 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 10:32:39PM +0100, Brian wrote:
>> On Fri 17 Aug 2018 at 21:49:53 +0200, john doe wrote:
>>
>>> As an aside, you should consider using 'apt' and not 'apt-get'.
>>
>> Why? What functional difference is there between 'apt-get upgrade' and
>> 'apt-get install' and the apt equivalents?
> 

See below.

> I don't agree with john doe's assertion; I'm just answering the literal
> question.
>

Reading Debian wiki 'apt-get' is no longer the recommended way to manage 
pkgs:

https://wiki.debian.org/DebianPackageManagement

> "apt upgrade" will install new packages, if necessary, to satisfy the
> upgrade dependencies; "apt-get upgrade" will not.  This is quite visible
> every time there's a new kernel ABI bump.
> 

This behavior is expected if you read apt(8):

https://manpages.debian.org/stretch/apt/apt.8.en.html

-- 
John Doe

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#198972

On 18 August 2018 at 05:00, Stephen P. Molnar <s.molnar@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> I have just installed Stretch on a new SSD on my platform.
>
> During the installation I selected the University of Chicago mirror and
> accepted the defaults plus backports.
>
> When I fun apt-get install Thunderbird apt-get tries to log on to
> prod.debian.map.fastly.net (2a04:4E42:2c::2040 and hangs. I can't find that
> address anywhere in /etc/apt.  Why am I getting this behavior?

As explained at [1], the debian-security repo [2] might be provided to
you by fastly.net.

Access to the debian-security repo is important because it is the method
by which your system will receive future security updates.

> Even more
> important, how do I get rid of  the problem?

If by "the problem" you mean the "hang", then you need to investigate why
that is occurring.

[1] https://deb.debian.org/
[2] specified in your /etc/apt/sources.list file as
http://security.debian.org/debian-security/

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#198975

On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 08:15:12PM +1000, David wrote:
> On 18 August 2018 at 05:00, Stephen P. Molnar <s.molnar@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > I have just installed Stretch on a new SSD on my platform.
> >
> > During the installation I selected the University of Chicago mirror and
> > accepted the defaults plus backports.
> >
> > When I fun apt-get install Thunderbird apt-get tries to log on to
> > prod.debian.map.fastly.net (2a04:4E42:2c::2040 and hangs. I can't find that
> > address anywhere in /etc/apt.  Why am I getting this behavior?
> 
> As explained at [1], the debian-security repo [2] might be provided to
> you by fastly.net.
> 
> Access to the debian-security repo is important because it is the method
> by which your system will receive future security updates.
> 
> > Even more
> > important, how do I get rid of  the problem?
> 
> If by "the problem" you mean the "hang", then you need to investigate why
> that is occurring.

Two cents says that he doesn't have upstream IPv6 connectivity.

If ping6 fails for both prod.debian.map.fastly.net and
www.google.com, that's a decent indicator I'm right.

Then the question is whether he expects to have IPv6
connectivity (and so it's broken) or whether he doesn't (and we
should tell Debian to stop using it).

-dsr-

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#198976

On 08/18/2018 10:20 AM, Dan Ritter wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 08:15:12PM +1000, David wrote:
>> On 18 August 2018 at 05:00, Stephen P. Molnar <s.molnar@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>> I have just installed Stretch on a new SSD on my platform.
>>>
>>> During the installation I selected the University of Chicago mirror and
>>> accepted the defaults plus backports.
>>>
>>> When I fun apt-get install Thunderbird apt-get tries to log on to
>>> prod.debian.map.fastly.net (2a04:4E42:2c::2040 and hangs. I can't find that
>>> address anywhere in /etc/apt.  Why am I getting this behavior?
>> As explained at [1], the debian-security repo [2] might be provided to
>> you by fastly.net.
>>
>> Access to the debian-security repo is important because it is the method
>> by which your system will receive future security updates.
>>
>>> Even more
>>> important, how do I get rid of  the problem?
>> If by "the problem" you mean the "hang", then you need to investigate why
>> that is occurring.
> Two cents says that he doesn't have upstream IPv6 connectivity.
>
> If ping6 fails for both prod.debian.map.fastly.net and
> www.google.com, that's a decent indicator I'm right.
>
> Then the question is whether he expects to have IPv6
> connectivity (and so it's broken) or whether he doesn't (and we
> should tell Debian to stop using it).
>
> -dsr-
>
>
Thank for the reply.

Where can I send the two cents?  It looks as if that's correct.

The installer installed ipv6 without giving me any choice about the 
matter.  How do I get rid of ipv9 and replace it WITH ipv4?

-- 
Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D.
Consultant
www.molecular-modeling.net
(614)312-7528 (c)
Skype: smolnar1

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#198978

	Hi.

On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 11:13:04AM -0400, Stephen P. Molnar wrote:
> 
> 
> On 08/18/2018 10:20 AM, Dan Ritter wrote:
> > On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 08:15:12PM +1000, David wrote:
> > > On 18 August 2018 at 05:00, Stephen P. Molnar <s.molnar@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > > > I have just installed Stretch on a new SSD on my platform.
> > > > 
> > > > During the installation I selected the University of Chicago mirror and
> > > > accepted the defaults plus backports.
> > > > 
> > > > When I fun apt-get install Thunderbird apt-get tries to log on to
> > > > prod.debian.map.fastly.net (2a04:4E42:2c::2040 and hangs. I can't find that
> > > > address anywhere in /etc/apt.  Why am I getting this behavior?
> > > As explained at [1], the debian-security repo [2] might be provided to
> > > you by fastly.net.
> > > 
> > > Access to the debian-security repo is important because it is the method
> > > by which your system will receive future security updates.
> > > 
> > > > Even more
> > > > important, how do I get rid of  the problem?
> > > If by "the problem" you mean the "hang", then you need to investigate why
> > > that is occurring.
> > Two cents says that he doesn't have upstream IPv6 connectivity.
> > 
> > If ping6 fails for both prod.debian.map.fastly.net and
> > www.google.com, that's a decent indicator I'm right.
> > 
> > Then the question is whether he expects to have IPv6
> > connectivity (and so it's broken) or whether he doesn't (and we
> > should tell Debian to stop using it).
> > 
> Thank for the reply.
> 
> Where can I send the two cents?  It looks as if that's correct.
> 
> The installer installed ipv6 without giving me any choice about the matter.

Don't blame the installer for that. The way IPv6 is provided there's
nothing to configure on your host (and there's nothing to blame here either).
You network hardware (aka router), on the other hand, most surely
advertizes IPv6 prefix. So put the blame there or on your ISP.

> How do I get rid of ipv9 and replace it WITH ipv4?

1) Delicate way of doing it (apply after each boot):

ip6tables -I INPUT ! -o lo -p icmp6 --icmpv6-type 134 -j DROP

2) Hardcore way of doing it (ditto):

sysctl -qw net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6=1

3) Right way of doing things:

Fix your router.

Reco

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#198982

On 08/18/2018 11:51 AM, Reco wrote:
> 	Hi.
>
> On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 11:13:04AM -0400, Stephen P. Molnar wrote:
>>
>> On 08/18/2018 10:20 AM, Dan Ritter wrote:
>>> On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 08:15:12PM +1000, David wrote:
>>>> On 18 August 2018 at 05:00, Stephen P. Molnar <s.molnar@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>> I have just installed Stretch on a new SSD on my platform.
>>>>>
>>>>> During the installation I selected the University of Chicago mirror and
>>>>> accepted the defaults plus backports.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I fun apt-get install Thunderbird apt-get tries to log on to
>>>>> prod.debian.map.fastly.net (2a04:4E42:2c::2040 and hangs. I can't find that
>>>>> address anywhere in /etc/apt.  Why am I getting this behavior?
>>>> As explained at [1], the debian-security repo [2] might be provided to
>>>> you by fastly.net.
>>>>
>>>> Access to the debian-security repo is important because it is the method
>>>> by which your system will receive future security updates.
>>>>
>>>>> Even more
>>>>> important, how do I get rid of  the problem?
>>>> If by "the problem" you mean the "hang", then you need to investigate why
>>>> that is occurring.
>>> Two cents says that he doesn't have upstream IPv6 connectivity.
>>>
>>> If ping6 fails for both prod.debian.map.fastly.net and
>>> www.google.com, that's a decent indicator I'm right.
>>>
>>> Then the question is whether he expects to have IPv6
>>> connectivity (and so it's broken) or whether he doesn't (and we
>>> should tell Debian to stop using it).
>>>
>> Thank for the reply.
>>
>> Where can I send the two cents?  It looks as if that's correct.
>>
>> The installer installed ipv6 without giving me any choice about the matter.
> Don't blame the installer for that. The way IPv6 is provided there's
> nothing to configure on your host (and there's nothing to blame here either).
> You network hardware (aka router), on the other hand, most surely
> advertizes IPv6 prefix. So put the blame there or on your ISP.
>
>> How do I get rid of ipv6 and replace it WITH ipv4?
> 1) Delicate way of doing it (apply after each boot):
>
> ip6tables -I INPUT ! -o lo -p icmp6 --icmpv6-type 134 -j DROP
>
> 2) Hardcore way of doing it (ditto):
>
> sysctl -qw net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6=1
>
> 3) Right way of doing things:
>
> Fix your router.
>
> Reco
>
>

According to my AT&T BGW210 Router both ipv4 amd 1pv6 are active

-- 
Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D.
Consultant
www.molecular-modeling.net
(614)312-7528 (c)
Skype: smolnar1

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#198984

On Sat 18 Aug 2018 at 13:46:31 -0400, Stephen P. Molnar wrote:

> 
> 
> On 08/18/2018 11:51 AM, Reco wrote:
> > 	Hi.
> > 
> > On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 11:13:04AM -0400, Stephen P. Molnar wrote:
> > > 
> > > On 08/18/2018 10:20 AM, Dan Ritter wrote:
> > > > On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 08:15:12PM +1000, David wrote:
> > > > > On 18 August 2018 at 05:00, Stephen P. Molnar <s.molnar@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > > > > > I have just installed Stretch on a new SSD on my platform.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > During the installation I selected the University of Chicago mirror and
> > > > > > accepted the defaults plus backports.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > When I fun apt-get install Thunderbird apt-get tries to log on to
> > > > > > prod.debian.map.fastly.net (2a04:4E42:2c::2040 and hangs. I can't find that
> > > > > > address anywhere in /etc/apt.  Why am I getting this behavior?
> > > > > As explained at [1], the debian-security repo [2] might be provided to
> > > > > you by fastly.net.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Access to the debian-security repo is important because it is the method
> > > > > by which your system will receive future security updates.
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Even more
> > > > > > important, how do I get rid of  the problem?
> > > > > If by "the problem" you mean the "hang", then you need to investigate why
> > > > > that is occurring.
> > > > Two cents says that he doesn't have upstream IPv6 connectivity.
> > > > 
> > > > If ping6 fails for both prod.debian.map.fastly.net and
> > > > www.google.com, that's a decent indicator I'm right.
> > > > 
> > > > Then the question is whether he expects to have IPv6
> > > > connectivity (and so it's broken) or whether he doesn't (and we
> > > > should tell Debian to stop using it).
> > > > 
> > > Thank for the reply.
> > > 
> > > Where can I send the two cents?  It looks as if that's correct.
> > > 
> > > The installer installed ipv6 without giving me any choice about the matter.
> > Don't blame the installer for that. The way IPv6 is provided there's
> > nothing to configure on your host (and there's nothing to blame here either).
> > You network hardware (aka router), on the other hand, most surely
> > advertizes IPv6 prefix. So put the blame there or on your ISP.
> > 
> > > How do I get rid of ipv6 and replace it WITH ipv4?
> > 1) Delicate way of doing it (apply after each boot):
> > 
> > ip6tables -I INPUT ! -o lo -p icmp6 --icmpv6-type 134 -j DROP
> > 
> > 2) Hardcore way of doing it (ditto):
> > 
> > sysctl -qw net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6=1
> > 
> > 3) Right way of doing things:
> > 
> > Fix your router.
> > 
> > Reco
> > 
> > 
> 
> According to my AT&T BGW210 Router both ipv4 amd 1pv6 are active

What does 'ip a' give you? And 'ping -c www.debian.org?

-- 
Brian.

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#198989

On 08/18/2018 01:54 PM, Brian wrote:
> On Sat 18 Aug 2018 at 13:46:31 -0400, Stephen P. Molnar wrote:
>
>> On 08/18/2018 11:51 AM, Reco wrote:
>>> 	Hi.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 11:13:04AM -0400, Stephen P. Molnar wrote:
>>>> On 08/18/2018 10:20 AM, Dan Ritter wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 08:15:12PM +1000, David wrote:
>>>>>> On 18 August 2018 at 05:00, Stephen P. Molnar<s.molnar@sbcglobal.net>  wrote:
>>>>>>> I have just installed Stretch on a new SSD on my platform.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> During the installation I selected the University of Chicago mirror and
>>>>>>> accepted the defaults plus backports.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When I fun apt-get install Thunderbird apt-get tries to log on to
>>>>>>> prod.debian.map.fastly.net (2a04:4E42:2c::2040 and hangs. I can't find that
>>>>>>> address anywhere in /etc/apt.  Why am I getting this behavior?
>>>>>> As explained at [1], the debian-security repo [2] might be provided to
>>>>>> you by fastly.net.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Access to the debian-security repo is important because it is the method
>>>>>> by which your system will receive future security updates.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Even more
>>>>>>> important, how do I get rid of  the problem?
>>>>>> If by "the problem" you mean the "hang", then you need to investigate why
>>>>>> that is occurring.
>>>>> Two cents says that he doesn't have upstream IPv6 connectivity.
>>>>>
>>>>> If ping6 fails for both prod.debian.map.fastly.net and
>>>>> www.google.com, that's a decent indicator I'm right.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then the question is whether he expects to have IPv6
>>>>> connectivity (and so it's broken) or whether he doesn't (and we
>>>>> should tell Debian to stop using it).
>>>>>
>>>> Thank for the reply.
>>>>
>>>> Where can I send the two cents?  It looks as if that's correct.
>>>>
>>>> The installer installed ipv6 without giving me any choice about the matter.
>>> Don't blame the installer for that. The way IPv6 is provided there's
>>> nothing to configure on your host (and there's nothing to blame here either).
>>> You network hardware (aka router), on the other hand, most surely
>>> advertizes IPv6 prefix. So put the blame there or on your ISP.
>>>
>>>> How do I get rid of ipv6 and replace it WITH ipv4?
>>> 1) Delicate way of doing it (apply after each boot):
>>>
>>> ip6tables -I INPUT ! -o lo -p icmp6 --icmpv6-type 134 -j DROP
>>>
>>> 2) Hardcore way of doing it (ditto):
>>>
>>> sysctl -qw net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6=1
>>>
>>> 3) Right way of doing things:
>>>
>>> Fix your router.
>>>
>>> Reco
>>>
>>>
>> According to my AT&T BGW210 Router both ipv4 amd 1pv6 are active
> What does 'ip a' give you? And 'ping -cwww.debian.org?
>
   Thanksfot the reply.

root@AbNormal:/home/comp# ip a
1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN 
group default qlen 1
     link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
     inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
        valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
     inet6 ::1/128 scope host
        valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
2: enp2s0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast 
state UP group default qlen 1000
     link/ether bc:ee:7b:5e:83:36 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
     inet 192.168.1.123/24 brd 192.168.1.255 scope global dynamic enp2s0
        valid_lft 86368sec preferred_lft 86368sec
     inet6 2600:1700:4280:3690::33/128 scope global dynamic
        valid_lft 1209566sec preferred_lft 1209566sec
     inet6 2600:1700:4280:3690:f15f:a615:62e3:1b2d/64 scope global 
temporary dynamic
        valid_lft 604766sec preferred_lft 85961sec
     inet6 2600:1700:4280:3690:beee:7bff:fe5e:8336/64 scope global 
mngtmpaddr noprefixroute dynamic
        valid_lft 1209598sec preferred_lft 1209598sec
     inet6 fe80::beee:7bff:fe5e:8336/64 scope link
        valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
root@AbNormal:/home/comp#


root@AbNormal:/home/comp# ping -c www.debian.org

but, without the -c switch:

PING www.debian.org(mirror-isc3.debian.org (2001:4f8:1:c::15)) 56 data bytes
^C
--- www.debian.org ping statistics ---
12 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 11266ms

root@AbNormal:/home/comp#

ping: bad number of packets to transmit.
root@AbNormal:/home/comp#

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#198998

On 8/18/18, Stephen P. Molnar <s.molnar@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> On 08/18/2018 01:54 PM, Brian wrote:
>> What does 'ip a' give you? And 'ping -cwww.debian.org?
>>
>    Thanksfot the reply.
>
> root@AbNormal:/home/comp# ip a
> 1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN
> group default qlen 1
>      link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
>      inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
>         valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
>      inet6 ::1/128 scope host
>         valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
> 2: enp2s0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast
> state UP group default qlen 1000
>      link/ether bc:ee:7b:5e:83:36 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
>      inet 192.168.1.123/24 brd 192.168.1.255 scope global dynamic enp2s0
>         valid_lft 86368sec preferred_lft 86368sec
>      inet6 2600:1700:4280:3690::33/128 scope global dynamic
>         valid_lft 1209566sec preferred_lft 1209566sec
>      inet6 2600:1700:4280:3690:f15f:a615:62e3:1b2d/64 scope global
> temporary dynamic
>         valid_lft 604766sec preferred_lft 85961sec
>      inet6 2600:1700:4280:3690:beee:7bff:fe5e:8336/64 scope global
> mngtmpaddr noprefixroute dynamic
>         valid_lft 1209598sec preferred_lft 1209598sec
>      inet6 fe80::beee:7bff:fe5e:8336/64 scope link
>         valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
> root@AbNormal:/home/comp#
>
> root@AbNormal:/home/comp# ping -c www.debian.org
>
> but, without the -c switch:
>
> PING www.debian.org(mirror-isc3.debian.org (2001:4f8:1:c::15)) 56 data
> bytes
> ^C
> --- www.debian.org ping statistics ---
> 12 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 11266ms
>
> root@AbNormal:/home/comp#
>
> ping: bad number of packets to transmit.
> root@AbNormal:/home/comp#


I tried this, too, while lurking along. Received the same "bad number
of packets" *abrupt retort* to "ping -c". I didn't want to
interject/bother anyone here so I searched the Net instead.

Only 175 pages pulled up when that advisement is enclosed in quotation
marks. A slightly wider search with 'ping "bad number of packets"'
only raised it to 360 pages.

That seems curiously small. Does it mean it's something that people
pretty much don't need and/or just don't know they could address
somehow?

Two for two of us here tried it and received that message so that's
why I decided to put this out here. Are we the only two in the World
with this... no, surely not...

And ultimately.... does it matter enough that it could maybe use some,
e.g. Publicity Team, airtime now that it has come up in a very
informative way?

It's the first time I've ever done the "ping -c", I always just ping
because I never thought about taking it any further than just making
sure I was connected to the Net... to which I am so am off to search
for answers. :)

Cindy :)
-- 
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Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA

* runs with duct tape *

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#198999

On 2018-08-19 02:37, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote:
> On 8/18/18, Stephen P. Molnar <s.molnar@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> 
>> On 08/18/2018 01:54 PM, Brian wrote:
>>> What does 'ip a' give you? And 'ping -cwww.debian.org?
>>> 
>>    Thanksfot the reply.
>> 
>> root@AbNormal:/home/comp# ip a
>> 1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN
>> group default qlen 1
>>      link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
>>      inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
>>         valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
>>      inet6 ::1/128 scope host
>>         valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
>> 2: enp2s0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast
>> state UP group default qlen 1000
>>      link/ether bc:ee:7b:5e:83:36 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
>>      inet 192.168.1.123/24 brd 192.168.1.255 scope global dynamic 
>> enp2s0
>>         valid_lft 86368sec preferred_lft 86368sec
>>      inet6 2600:1700:4280:3690::33/128 scope global dynamic
>>         valid_lft 1209566sec preferred_lft 1209566sec
>>      inet6 2600:1700:4280:3690:f15f:a615:62e3:1b2d/64 scope global
>> temporary dynamic
>>         valid_lft 604766sec preferred_lft 85961sec
>>      inet6 2600:1700:4280:3690:beee:7bff:fe5e:8336/64 scope global
>> mngtmpaddr noprefixroute dynamic
>>         valid_lft 1209598sec preferred_lft 1209598sec
>>      inet6 fe80::beee:7bff:fe5e:8336/64 scope link
>>         valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
>> root@AbNormal:/home/comp#
>> 
>> root@AbNormal:/home/comp# ping -c www.debian.org
>> 
>> but, without the -c switch:
>> 
>> PING www.debian.org(mirror-isc3.debian.org (2001:4f8:1:c::15)) 56 data
>> bytes
>> ^C
>> --- www.debian.org ping statistics ---
>> 12 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 11266ms
>> 
>> root@AbNormal:/home/comp#
>> 
>> ping: bad number of packets to transmit.
>> root@AbNormal:/home/comp#
> 
> 
> I tried this, too, while lurking along. Received the same "bad number
> of packets" *abrupt retort* to "ping -c". I didn't want to
> interject/bother anyone here so I searched the Net instead.
> 
> Only 175 pages pulled up when that advisement is enclosed in quotation
> marks. A slightly wider search with 'ping "bad number of packets"'
> only raised it to 360 pages.
> 
> That seems curiously small. Does it mean it's something that people
> pretty much don't need and/or just don't know they could address
> somehow?
> 
> Two for two of us here tried it and received that message so that's
> why I decided to put this out here. Are we the only two in the World
> with this... no, surely not...
> 
> And ultimately.... does it matter enough that it could maybe use some,
> e.g. Publicity Team, airtime now that it has come up in a very
> informative way?
> 
> It's the first time I've ever done the "ping -c", I always just ping
> because I never thought about taking it any further than just making
> sure I was connected to the Net... to which I am so am off to search
> for answers. :)
> 
> Cindy :)
I think you are supposed to put a number after -c
man ping

mick
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#199008

On 08/18/2018 11:59 PM, mick crane wrote:
> On 2018-08-19 02:37, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote:
>> On 8/18/18, Stephen P. Molnar <s.molnar@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 08/18/2018 01:54 PM, Brian wrote:
>>>> What does 'ip a' give you? And 'ping -cwww.debian.org?
>>>>
>>>    Thanksfot the reply.
>>>
>>> root@AbNormal:/home/comp# ip a
>>> 1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN
>>> group default qlen 1
>>>      link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
>>>      inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
>>>         valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
>>>      inet6 ::1/128 scope host
>>>         valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
>>> 2: enp2s0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast
>>> state UP group default qlen 1000
>>>      link/ether bc:ee:7b:5e:83:36 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
>>>      inet 192.168.1.123/24 brd 192.168.1.255 scope global dynamic 
>>> enp2s0
>>>         valid_lft 86368sec preferred_lft 86368sec
>>>      inet6 2600:1700:4280:3690::33/128 scope global dynamic
>>>         valid_lft 1209566sec preferred_lft 1209566sec
>>>      inet6 2600:1700:4280:3690:f15f:a615:62e3:1b2d/64 scope global
>>> temporary dynamic
>>>         valid_lft 604766sec preferred_lft 85961sec
>>>      inet6 2600:1700:4280:3690:beee:7bff:fe5e:8336/64 scope global
>>> mngtmpaddr noprefixroute dynamic
>>>         valid_lft 1209598sec preferred_lft 1209598sec
>>>      inet6 fe80::beee:7bff:fe5e:8336/64 scope link
>>>         valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
>>> root@AbNormal:/home/comp#
>>>
>>> root@AbNormal:/home/comp# ping -c www.debian.org
>>>
>>> but, without the -c switch:
>>>
>>> PING www.debian.org(mirror-isc3.debian.org (2001:4f8:1:c::15)) 56 data
>>> bytes
>>> ^C
>>> --- www.debian.org ping statistics ---
>>> 12 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 11266ms
>>>
>>> root@AbNormal:/home/comp#
>>>
>>> ping: bad number of packets to transmit. ping -cwww.debian.org
>>> root@AbNormal:/home/comp#
>>
>>
>> I tried this, too, while lurking along. Received the same "bad number
>> of packets" *abrupt retort* to "ping -c". I didn't want to
>> interject/bother anyone here so I searched the Net instead.
>>
>> Only 175 pages pulled up when that advisement is enclosed in quotation
>> marks. A slightly wider search with 'ping "bad number of packets"'
>> only raised it to 360 pages.
>>
>> That seems curiously small. Does it mean it's something that people
>> pretty much don't need and/or just don't know they could address
>> somehow?
>>
>> Two for two of us here tried it and received that message so that's
>> why I decided to put this out here. Are we the only two in the World
>> with this... no, surely not...
>>
>> And ultimately.... does it matter enough that it could maybe use some,
>> e.g. Publicity Team, airtime now that it has come up in a very
>> informative way?
>>
>> It's the first time I've ever done the "ping -c", I always just ping
>> because I never thought about taking it any further than just making
>> sure I was connected to the Net... to which I am so am off to search
>> for answers. :)
>>
>> Cindy :)
> I think you are supposed to put a number after -c
> man ping
>
> mick
Absolutely, correct.

root@AbNormal:/home/comp# ping -c 4 www.debian.org
PING www.debian.org (128.31.0.62) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from mirror-csail.debian.org (128.31.0.62): icmp_seq=1 ttl=46 
time=29.2 ms
64 bytes from mirror-csail.debian.org (128.31.0.62): icmp_seq=2 ttl=46 
time=29.1 ms
64 bytes from mirror-csail.debian.org (128.31.0.62): icmp_seq=3 ttl=46 
time=29.0 ms
64 bytes from mirror-csail.debian.org (128.31.0.62): icmp_seq=4 ttl=46 
time=29.2 ms

--- www.debian.org ping statistics ---
4 packets transmitted, 4 received, 0% packet loss, time 3003ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 29.046/29.165/29.266/0.193 ms
root@AbNormal:/home/comp#

-- 
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Consultant
www.molecular-modeling.net
(614)312-7528 (c)
Skype: smolnar1

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