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  Disable new feature on Jessie / KDE 4.14.2 rhkramer@gmail.com - 2018-08-16 18:30 +0200
    Re: Disable new feature on Jessie / KDE 4.14.2 Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2018-08-16 21:00 +0200
      Re: Disable new feature on Jessie / KDE 4.14.2 Cindy-Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2018-08-16 21:20 +0200
        Re: Disable new feature on Jessie / KDE 4.14.2 rhkramer@gmail.com - 2018-08-17 10:50 +0200
      Re: Disable new feature on Jessie / KDE 4.14.2 rhkramer@gmail.com - 2018-08-17 10:50 +0200
    Re: Disable new feature on Jessie / KDE 4.14.2 Cindy-Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2018-08-16 21:10 +0200

#198875 — Disable new feature on Jessie / KDE 4.14.2

There is a new (to me) feature on my Jessie / KDE 4.14.2 which I do not like 
and would like to disable -- I don't even know what to call it to try googling 
for it, so:

I will describe it:

If I move the mouse to the upper left hand corner of the screen, the display 
changes to show all the open windows from all desktops.  (They are shown on a 
darker background in sort of a darker / skeleton like mode (not a good 
description, but I can't immediately think of a better one).)  

(I can then click on any one of them to switch to that window (and the 
assocaiated desktop), or press escape to get back to the desktop I'm on.)

I've been living with this for several months, but I haven't trained myself to 
avoid the (to me) problem.

What I am usually doing when this happens is moving the mouse to the top of 
the page to choose something off the toolbar (often the Klipper icon -- the 
klipper icon is some distance from the upper left corner, but, nevertheless, 
too often I move the mouse too far and get this undesired "mode").  I suppose 
I could move the Klipper icon to the other end of the tool bar, but that would 
involve more (self) retraining.

So, I'd appreciate help in any number of ways:

   * ideally, how to disable the feature

   * otherwise, the name of the feature or some key words that I might use to 
google for the feature (so that I can look for a way to disable it)

Thanks!

PS: Aside: I usually read all of the debian-user posts for whatever I might 
learn from them, but real life has interfered -- I'm about 2000 posts behind, 
and I doubt I'll take the time to catch up.  

I do intend to restart reading the posts, partly to find any responses to this 
post (and maybe a few other questions that I may post in the near future).  

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#198885

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On Thu, 16 Aug 2018 12:28:07 -0400
rhkramer@gmail.com wrote:

Hello rhkramer@gmail.com,

>There is a new (to me) feature on my Jessie / KDE 4.14.2 which I do not
>like and would like to disable -- I don't even know what to call it to
>try googling 

Not sure what to call them either.  Gestures, maybe.  However....

To disable them, go to KDE's Settings, Workspace, Desktop Behaviour,
Screen Edges(1).  There, you'll find a black monitor image with selection
boxes at each corner and middle of each edge.  You can (de)select the
one(s) you want.  Click Apply and you're done.

(1) At least that's where it is in KDE5/Plasma.  Shouldn't be too
different in KDE4.

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#198889

On 8/16/18, Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Aug 2018 12:28:07 -0400
> rhkramer@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Hello rhkramer@gmail.com,
>
>>There is a new (to me) feature on my Jessie / KDE 4.14.2 which I do not
>>like and would like to disable -- I don't even know what to call it to
>>try googling
>
> Not sure what to call them either.  Gestures, maybe.  However....
>
> To disable them, go to KDE's Settings, Workspace, Desktop Behaviour,
> Screen Edges(1).  There, you'll find a black monitor image with selection
> boxes at each corner and middle of each edge.  You can (de)select the
> one(s) you want.  Click Apply and you're done.
>
> (1) At least that's where it is in KDE5/Plasma.  Shouldn't be too
> different in KDE4.


I knew that would happen. I wrote out something but knew someone would
probably respond with something good in between. :)

How about "tooltips" to describe those popups? Sounds like a visual
option that web browsers offer (sometimes). It's actually a nice,
*cognitively friendly* "accessibility" feature AS LONG AS those who
don't want it or don't need it are offered the *_CHOICE_* to turn it
off.....

My other thought was... does what you all are using offer you the
ability to at least define the percentage of space in between icons?

Or maybe does what you're using allow you the ability to throw, I
don't know... TEN hidden spaces, space bars, something like that in
between to force distance between the icons so that you don't get near
them unless you move the cursor on top of them on purpose? I've been
there, done that A LOT over the years.. :)

Cindy :)
-- 
Cindy-Sue Causey
Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA

* I comment, therefore I am.... procrastinating asking big box store:
WHERE'S MY BIRDSEED?! *

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#198914

On Thursday, August 16, 2018 03:11:18 PM Cindy-Sue Causey wrote:
> On 8/16/18, Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> wrote:
> > On Thu, 16 Aug 2018 12:28:07 -0400
> > rhkramer@gmail.com wrote:
> > 
> > Hello rhkramer@gmail.com,
> > 
> >>There is a new (to me) feature on my Jessie / KDE 4.14.2 which I do not
> >>like and would like to disable -- I don't even know what to call it to
> >>try googling
> >>
> > Not sure what to call them either.  Gestures, maybe.  However....
> > 
> > To disable them, go to KDE's Settings, Workspace, Desktop Behaviour,
> > Screen Edges(1).  There, you'll find a black monitor image with selection
> > boxes at each corner and middle of each edge.  You can (de)select the
> > one(s) you want.  Click Apply and you're done.
> > 
> > (1) At least that's where it is in KDE5/Plasma.  Shouldn't be too
> > different in KDE4.
> 
> I knew that would happen. I wrote out something but knew someone would
> probably respond with something good in between. :)
> 
> How about "tooltips" to describe those popups? Sounds like a visual
> option that web browsers offer (sometimes). It's actually a nice,
> *cognitively friendly* "accessibility" feature AS LONG AS those who
> don't want it or don't need it are offered the *_CHOICE_* to turn it
> off.....
> 
> My other thought was... does what you all are using offer you the
> ability to at least define the percentage of space in between icons?
> 
> Or maybe does what you're using allow you the ability to throw, I
> don't know... TEN hidden spaces, space bars, something like that in
> between to force distance between the icons so that you don't get near
> them unless you move the cursor on top of them on purpose? I've been
> there, done that A LOT over the years.. :)

Thanks for your input -- just to comment on it, I have quite a bit of space 
between the klipper icon and the upper left corner of the screen -- I mean 
like about 4" (on my 32" diagonal monitor (TV)) -- I just haven't trained 
myself to be more precise with my mouse movements.

Thanks to Brad Rogers, I have disabled the "feature".

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#198915

On Thursday, August 16, 2018 02:48:51 PM Brad Rogers wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Aug 2018 12:28:07 -0400
> rhkramer@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Hello rhkramer@gmail.com,
> 
> >There is a new (to me) feature on my Jessie / KDE 4.14.2 which I do not
> >like and would like to disable -- I don't even know what to call it to
> >try googling
> 
> Not sure what to call them either.  Gestures, maybe.  However....
> 
> To disable them, go to KDE's Settings, Workspace, Desktop Behaviour,
> Screen Edges(1).  There, you'll find a black monitor image with selection
> boxes at each corner and middle of each edge.  You can (de)select the
> one(s) you want.  Click Apply and you're done.
> 
> (1) At least that's where it is in KDE5/Plasma.  Shouldn't be too
> different in KDE4.


Thanks, (in essence), that worked!

IN more detail (for future reference, quite possibly my own), I went to:

(the) K (menu) =>
Settings =>
System Settings =>
Workspace Behavior =>
Screen Edges

Then I clicked on the "dot" in the upper right corner of the image of the 
screen and chose "No action" instead of "Present Windows - All Desktops"

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#198887

On 8/16/18, rhkramer@gmail.com <rhkramer@gmail.com> wrote:
> There is a new (to me) feature on my Jessie / KDE 4.14.2 which I do not like
>
> and would like to disable -- I don't even know what to call it to try
> googling
> for it, so:
>
> I will describe it:
>
> If I move the mouse to the upper left hand corner of the screen, the display
>
> changes to show all the open windows from all desktops.  (They are shown on
> a
> darker background in sort of a darker / skeleton like mode (not a good
> description, but I can't immediately think of a better one).)
>
> (I can then click on any one of them to switch to that window (and the
> assocaiated desktop), or press escape to get back to the desktop I'm on.)
>
> I've been living with this for several months, but I haven't trained myself
> to
> avoid the (to me) problem.
>
> What I am usually doing when this happens is moving the mouse to the top of
>
> the page to choose something off the toolbar (often the Klipper icon -- the
>
> klipper icon is some distance from the upper left corner, but, nevertheless,
>
> too often I move the mouse too far and get this undesired "mode").  I
> suppose
> I could move the Klipper icon to the other end of the tool bar, but that
> would
> involve more (self) retraining.
>
> So, I'd appreciate help in any number of ways:
>
>    * ideally, how to disable the feature
>
>    * otherwise, the name of the feature or some key words that I might use
> to
> google for the feature (so that I can look for a way to disable it)
>
> Thanks!


Alternative fix up top here before I write my original thought about
it: If no option exists to trigger that feature on and off, you could
try adding some space between the icons so that they're not sitting so
close together. You have to play around with the properties (or
similar) for the affected "panel" to make that happen.

You might even be able to move that to a completely different location
on a different panel somewhere else on your desktop, now that I think
about it. Maybe even create a panel that completely hides out of sight
offscreen until you want it. THAT option has its own caveats. I CAN'T
STAND when my cursor rests somewhere for a second, and a panel starts
playing peek-a-boo in the meantime........... :))

Now my original thought...........

I'm not familiar with the exact feature you're describing, but Xfce4
displays tiny icons that each represent however many "workspaces" I
choose to have available. The word "tooltip" *MIGHT* apply to what it
SOUNDS LIKE you might be describing.

If it's the same or similar to what I think you're talking about, mine
only offers textual tooltips. I kind of like what it sounds like
you're describing, BUT I fully understand what you're saying. I've
experienced a similar VERY NEGATIVE reaction when something similar
occurs for each open tab in various web browsers.

I just tried rightclicking over top of my workspace icons to see what
options might be available via that route. *Mine* within Xfce4 offer
very few possibilities. Unfortunately those few possibilities do not
include a way to hide those completely, thus avoiding running the
cursor over them.

Suggesting this anyway in case maybe yours offers the ability to turn
those visual images (?) off so that maybe at least you only encounter
smaller textual representations instead....

Again, my experience is within Xfce4. I have no idea what might be
available for other desktop environments. If no user *_CHOICE_*
options are offered to control what it SOUNDS LIKE you're describing,
you can always file a wishlist reportbug report asking if the
developers would please consider adding an on/off toggle to a future
release.

Hopefully maybe whatever you're using does at least offer a chance to
make those smaller/less intrusive, anyway.

Cindy :)
-- 
Cindy-Sue Causey
Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA

* I comment, therefore I am... procrastinating asking big box store:
WHERE'S MY BIRDSEED?! *

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