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Installing package NOT in repository

Started by	Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net>
First post	2018-08-13 13:50 +0200
Last post	2018-08-15 08:20 +0200
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  Installing package *NOT* in repository Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-08-13 13:50 +0200
    Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-08-13 14:00 +0200
      Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-08-13 14:30 +0200
        Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository Samuel Henrique <samueloph@debian.org> - 2018-08-13 14:40 +0200
          Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2018-08-17 11:30 +0200
            Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-17 13:40 +0200
              Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-08-17 14:30 +0200
                Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 14:50 +0200
                  Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-08-17 17:00 +0200
              Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-08-17 20:50 +0200
                Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2018-08-21 13:00 +0200
                  Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-21 14:10 +0200
                    Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-21 14:50 +0200
                      Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-08-21 15:40 +0200
                        Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-21 16:40 +0200
                      Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-08-21 17:10 +0200
                        Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-21 17:40 +0200
                        Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-21 19:30 +0200
                    Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-08-21 17:10 +0200
                      Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-08-21 17:30 +0200
                        Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-21 18:00 +0200
                        Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-08-21 19:00 +0200
        Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-08-13 15:00 +0200
        Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> - 2018-08-13 16:10 +0200
    Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository john doe <johndoe65534@mail.com> - 2018-08-13 14:10 +0200
    Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository Matthew Crews <mailinglists@mattcrews.com> - 2018-08-13 15:00 +0200
      Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-13 15:50 +0200
    Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2018-08-13 17:40 +0200
      Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-13 17:50 +0200
        Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository Samuel Henrique <samueloph@debian.org> - 2018-08-13 18:00 +0200
          Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository tomas@tuxteam.de - 2018-08-13 18:20 +0200
            Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-08-13 18:50 +0200
              Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-08-13 19:10 +0200
                Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-08-13 19:30 +0200
        Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-08-13 18:00 +0200
          Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository Cindy-Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2018-08-14 19:50 +0200
            Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository Jason <electron@emypeople.net> - 2018-08-15 13:10 +0200
        Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2018-08-14 04:10 +0200
          Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-14 09:00 +0200
            Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2018-08-14 17:00 +0200
              Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-14 17:30 +0200
    Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2018-08-14 05:50 +0200
    Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> - 2018-08-14 08:50 +0200
      Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-08-14 13:50 +0200
        Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> - 2018-08-15 07:10 +0200
          Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository Kenneth Parker <sea7kenp@gmail.com> - 2018-08-15 07:30 +0200
            Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-15 10:00 +0200
            Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2018-08-15 10:30 +0200
          Re: Installing package *NOT* in repository Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> - 2018-08-15 08:20 +0200

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#199158

From	Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org>
Date	2018-08-21 18:00 +0200
Message-ID	<wphex-4lM-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#199152

On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 11:23:59AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
>Second, this whole thread has been about the undocumented feature of
>apt (but not apt-get) that allows you to specify a pathname to a .deb
>file on an "apt install" command.  Nobody was quite sure how it worked,
>because it's undocumented.

Works fine in apt-get also. Same code. It's also a bit more complicated, 
because it will prefer a repository version if you're trying to install 
something that is actually in the respository.

>pathname begins with "/" or "./" or "../".  This seems like a strange
>choice to me (I would've gone with "contains a slash", because there's
>precedent for that, and because it allows pathnames like "foo/bar.deb"
>which the current code does not allow).

/ in an apt parameter already indicates the target release. E.g., 
apt-get install ant/stretch-backports

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#199167

From	David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk>
Date	2018-08-21 19:00 +0200
Message-ID	<wpiaC-4VN-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#199152

On Tue 21 Aug 2018 at 11:23:59 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 10:04:58AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > Why would you expect it to look for a «file» at all? If you write
> >     # apt install gem.deb
> > then apt should try to install any «packages» it finds called
> > "gemadeb", "gembdeb", "gemcdeb", "gemddeb", etc, and will
> > consequently install the «package» gem2deb, which is likely
> > not what you expected unless you read the man page for apt-get
> > in combination with that for apt.
> 
> First of all, the . character is valid in a package name, and is supposed
> to be treated literally.  A package named python3.5 exists, for example.
> 
> The . character can be a single-character wildcard in some kinds of
> regular expression, but one would hope (I certainly hope) that when
> an exactly matching package name exists in the database, the exact
> match should win out over a regex(7) match.

Hey, I don't write this stuff. I only read the man pages.

> The . character is NOT a single-character wildcard to the shell, so it
> does not need escaping or quoting to survive the shell's argument
> parsing.  You might be thinking of the ? character.

No, I'm not. That's why you don't need to escape it.

> Second, this whole thread has been about the undocumented feature of
> apt (but not apt-get) that allows you to specify a pathname to a .deb
> file on an "apt install" command.  Nobody was quite sure how it worked,
> because it's undocumented.

Yes, that's why I tried it (in stretch. Simulated. Installing it
would be a bit of a stretch. Bothering to install buster first would
be going for bust.)

> However, Michael Stone was kind enough to point out the line of code
> which is partly responsible for this feature (thank you).  So, now we
> know that "apt install" can take a pathname argument, but only if the
> pathname begins with "/" or "./" or "../".  This seems like a strange
> choice to me (I would've gone with "contains a slash", because there's
> precedent for that, and because it allows pathnames like "foo/bar.deb"
> which the current code does not allow).  But at least now we know.

But there's a slash in the allowed syntax already, so that choice has gone.

Anyway, let's actually count the teeth in the horse's mouth:

The short test:

~/4greg $ ls -l
total 2552
-rw-r----- 1 david david 1305596 Jul  9 11:41 apt_1.6.3_amd64.deb
-rw-r----- 1 david david 1305596 Jul  9 11:41 gem.deb
~/4greg $ apt -s install gem.deb | grep gem

WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.

  dirmngr dpkg-dev dput equivs g++ g++-6 gem2deb gem2deb-test-runner gettext
Inst gem2deb-test-runner (0.33.1 Debian:9.5/stable [amd64])
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Conf gem2deb (0.33.1 Debian:9.5/stable [amd64])
~/4greg $ 

and the long test, as a warning:

~/4greg $ apt -s install gem.deb 
NOTE: This is only a simulation!
      apt needs root privileges for real execution.
      Keep also in mind that locking is deactivated,
      so don't depend on the relevance to the real current situation!
Reading package lists...
Building dependency tree...
Reading state information...
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Conf ruby-setup (3.4.1-9 Debian:9.5/stable [all])
Conf gem2deb (0.33.1 Debian:9.5/stable [amd64])
Conf libalgorithm-diff-perl (1.19.03-1 Debian:9.5/stable [all])
Conf libalgorithm-diff-xs-perl (0.04-4+b2 Debian:9.5/stable [amd64])
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Conf libclass-xsaccessor-perl (1.19-2+b7 Debian:9.5/stable [amd64])
Conf libclone-perl (0.38-2+b1 Debian:9.5/stable [amd64])
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Conf libsocket6-perl (0.27-1+b1 Debian:9.5/stable [amd64])
Conf libio-socket-inet6-perl (2.72-2 Debian:9.5/stable [all])
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Conf libnet-dns-perl (1.07-1 Debian:9.5/stable [all])
Conf libnet-domain-tld-perl (1.75-1 Debian:9.5/stable [all])
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Conf libperlio-gzip-perl (0.19-1+b2 Debian:9.5/stable [amd64])
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Conf libxmlrpc-lite-perl (0.717-1 Debian:9.5/stable [all])
Conf libyaml-libyaml-perl (0.63-2 Debian:9.5/stable [amd64])
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Conf patchutils (0.3.4-2 Debian:9.5/stable [amd64])
Conf lintian (2.5.50.4 Debian:9.5/stable [all])
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~/4greg $ apt -s install ./gem.deb 
NOTE: This is only a simulation!
      apt needs root privileges for real execution.
      Keep also in mind that locking is deactivated,
      so don't depend on the relevance to the real current situation!
Reading package lists...
Building dependency tree...
Reading state information...
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 apt : Depends: libapt-pkg5.0 (>= 1.6.3) but 1.4.8 is to be installed
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
~/4greg $ 

And if you got to the end, the last command shows how it should be done.
(The test .deb *is* from buster.)

Cheers,
David.

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#198697

From	Joe <joe@jretrading.com>
Date	2018-08-13 15:00 +0200
Message-ID	<wmkBX-6k4-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#198694

On Mon, 13 Aug 2018 07:28:20 -0500
Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> wrote:

> On 08/13/2018 06:59 AM, Joe wrote:
> > On Mon, 13 Aug 2018 06:47:02 -0500
> > Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> wrote:
> >   
> >> PREAMBLE:
> >> I've downloaded a .deb file.
> >> I've recently done such an install but don't remember how.
> >> Looking at the man pages for apt, apt-get, aptitude didn't help.
> >> Couldn't come up with useful search term for wiki.
> >> Eventually recalled "dpkg -i" which worked.
> >>
> >> QUESTION:
> >> How would someone find the answer if the answer wasn't already
> >> known? I went thru the same sequence last time.
> >>  
> > 
> > https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=install+.deb&gws_rd=ssl
> > 
> > First hit:
> > https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/159094/how-to-install-a-deb-file-by-dpkg-i-or-by-apt
> >   
> 
> A partial "mea culpa" ;/
> I was completely focused on Debian tools and never thought of
> searching the whole web.
> 
> My gut feeling is still there should be a way to use Debian tools.

Perhaps so, but you'll usually get a wider perspective from those who
actually use Debian in real life, who have a subtly different
viewpoint from that of the developers. Note the discussion in my link
about alternative ways of dealing with dependencies.

I might also point out that much Debian documentation is in the form of
man pages. As everyone agrees, they are excellent for refreshing the
memory of experienced users, but they are not always that useful to
first-time learners.

-- 
Joe

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#198708

From	Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net>
Date	2018-08-13 16:10 +0200
Message-ID	<wmlHH-7aP-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#198694

On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 07:28:20AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 08/13/2018 06:59 AM, Joe wrote:
> > On Mon, 13 Aug 2018 06:47:02 -0500
> > Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> wrote:
> > 
> > > PREAMBLE:
> > > I've downloaded a .deb file.
> > > I've recently done such an install but don't remember how.
> > > Looking at the man pages for apt, apt-get, aptitude didn't help.
> > > Couldn't come up with useful search term for wiki.
> > > Eventually recalled "dpkg -i" which worked.
> > > 
> > > QUESTION:
> > > How would someone find the answer if the answer wasn't already known?
> > > I went thru the same sequence last time.
> > > 
> > 
> > https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=install+.deb&gws_rd=ssl
> > 
> > First hit:
> > https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/159094/how-to-install-a-deb-file-by-dpkg-i-or-by-apt
> > 
> 
> A partial "mea culpa" ;/
> I was completely focused on Debian tools and never thought of searching the
> whole web.
> 
> My gut feeling is still there should be a way to use Debian tools.

Oki dokey, here ya gokey:

  apt-cache search install | sort | egrep -i debian\ package

Of course this can go in a script, or part of it ...

(In this particular example there's a few too many results really,
but not much you can do about that ... that's what J^BGoogle is for.)

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#198692

From	john doe <johndoe65534@mail.com>
Date	2018-08-13 14:10 +0200
Message-ID	<wmjPz-64u-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#198689

On 8/13/2018 1:47 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:
> PREAMBLE:
> I've downloaded a .deb file.
> I've recently done such an install but don't remember how.
> Looking at the man pages for apt, apt-get, aptitude didn't help.
> Couldn't come up with useful search term for wiki.
> Eventually recalled "dpkg -i" which worked.
> 
> QUESTION:
> How would someone find the answer if the answer wasn't already known?
> I went thru the same sequence last time.
> 

Googling "installing .deb package" gives the answer.

On Debian managing packages is done by "dpkg".

For security reasons, stability issues, it is not recommended to install 
*.deb pkgs that are not from the Debian repositories.

-- 
John Doe

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#198698

From	Matthew Crews <mailinglists@mattcrews.com>
Date	2018-08-13 15:00 +0200
Message-ID	<wmkBY-6k4-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#198689

On 8/13/18 4:47 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
> PREAMBLE:
> I've downloaded a .deb file.
> I've recently done such an install but don't remember how.
> Looking at the man pages for apt, apt-get, aptitude didn't help.
> Couldn't come up with useful search term for wiki.
> Eventually recalled "dpkg -i" which worked.
> 
> QUESTION:
> How would someone find the answer if the answer wasn't already known?
> I went thru the same sequence last time.
> 

Its possible to use apt to install a file on your disk. For example:

# apt install /path/to/file.deb

Apt will also try to do dependency checking. I don't think dpkg will,
but I'm not sure on that.

-Matt

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#198705

From	<tomas@tuxteam.de>
Date	2018-08-13 15:50 +0200
Message-ID	<wmlol-6P8-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#198698

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On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 12:54:16PM +0000, Matthew Crews wrote:
> On 8/13/18 4:47 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
> > PREAMBLE:
> > I've downloaded a .deb file.
> > I've recently done such an install but don't remember how.
> > Looking at the man pages for apt, apt-get, aptitude didn't help.
> > Couldn't come up with useful search term for wiki.
> > Eventually recalled "dpkg -i" which worked.
> > 
> > QUESTION:
> > How would someone find the answer if the answer wasn't already known?
> > I went thru the same sequence last time.
> > 
> 
> Its possible to use apt to install a file on your disk. For example:
> 
> # apt install /path/to/file.deb
> 
> Apt will also try to do dependency checking. I don't think dpkg will,
> but I'm not sure on that.

Yes, it will install dependencies (although you can fine-tune its
behaviour with --no-force-depends or --ignore-depends, if you so
wish). Cf. the man page.

Cheers
- -- t
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#198717

From	Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com>
Date	2018-08-13 17:40 +0200
Message-ID	<wmn6O-7Sa-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#198689

On Mon, 13 Aug 2018 06:47:02 -0500
Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> wrote:

> PREAMBLE:
> I've downloaded a .deb file.
> I've recently done such an install but don't remember how.
> Looking at the man pages for apt, apt-get, aptitude didn't help.
> Couldn't come up with useful search term for wiki.
> Eventually recalled "dpkg -i" which worked.
> 
> QUESTION:
> How would someone find the answer if the answer wasn't already known?
> I went thru the same sequence last time.
> 

I use gdebi to install local .deb files. It handles the dependencies,
too.

FYI: I installed only gdebi-core, the command line part, as opposed to
gdebi with includes the GUi which is GNOME dependent and installs all
manner of GNOME files. I use only a window manager on my system for
the GUI and want to keep all GNOME crap off of it.

Also, I understand that apt (not apt-get) will install local .deb files
and dependencies, too, but I've never tried it. (I'm still learning the
ins and outs of apt.)

B

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#198718

From	<tomas@tuxteam.de>
Date	2018-08-13 17:50 +0200
Message-ID	<wmngu-7Vn-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#198717

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On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 08:35:50AM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Aug 2018 06:47:02 -0500
> Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> wrote:
> 
> > PREAMBLE:
> > I've downloaded a .deb file.
> > I've recently done such an install but don't remember how.
> > Looking at the man pages for apt, apt-get, aptitude didn't help.
> > Couldn't come up with useful search term for wiki.
> > Eventually recalled "dpkg -i" which worked.
> > 
> > QUESTION:
> > How would someone find the answer if the answer wasn't already known?
> > I went thru the same sequence last time.
> > 
> 
> I use gdebi to install local .deb files. It handles the dependencies,
> too.

As I said already, dpkg does install dependencies. Actually, I don't
know any (Debian) tool which wouldn't, by default.

Cheers
- -- t
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#198719

From	Samuel Henrique <samueloph@debian.org>
Date	2018-08-13 18:00 +0200
Message-ID	<wmnqa-7Yt-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#198718

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> > I use gdebi to install local .deb files. It handles the dependencies,
> > too.
>
> As I said already, dpkg does install dependencies. Actually, I don't
> know any (Debian) tool which wouldn't, by default.


I really don't know what you're talking about, dpkg knows nothing about apt
and its repositories, it can't install any dependency.

That's why i recommend using apt to install .deb files.

-- 
Samuel Henrique <samueloph>

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#198721

From	tomas@tuxteam.de
Date	2018-08-13 18:20 +0200
Message-ID	<wmnJv-8jZ-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#198719

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On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 12:56:58PM -0300, Samuel Henrique wrote:
> > > I use gdebi to install local .deb files. It handles the dependencies,
> > > too.
> >
> > As I said already, dpkg does install dependencies. Actually, I don't
> > know any (Debian) tool which wouldn't, by default.
> 
> 
> I really don't know what you're talking about, dpkg knows nothing about apt
> and its repositories, it can't install any dependency.

You're right: it won't download & install dependencies. It'll just
list those and complain.

Cheers
- -- tomás
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#198722

From	Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date	2018-08-13 18:50 +0200
Message-ID	<wmocx-8t0-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#198721

On Mon 13 Aug 2018 at 18:16:28 +0200, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:

> On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 12:56:58PM -0300, Samuel Henrique wrote:
> > > > I use gdebi to install local .deb files. It handles the dependencies,
> > > > too.
> > >
> > > As I said already, dpkg does install dependencies. Actually, I don't
> > > know any (Debian) tool which wouldn't, by default.
> > 
> > 
> > I really don't know what you're talking about, dpkg knows nothing about apt
> > and its repositories, it can't install any dependency.
> 
> You're right: it won't download & install dependencies. It'll just
> list those and complain.

This needn't be a disaster. 'apt -f install' fixes the dependencies.

-- 
Brian.

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#198723

From	Curt <curty@free.fr>
Date	2018-08-13 19:10 +0200
Message-ID	<wmovT-mY-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#198722

On 2018-08-13, Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> wrote:
>> > 
>> > I really don't know what you're talking about, dpkg knows nothing about apt
>> > and its repositories, it can't install any dependency.
>> 
>> You're right: it won't download & install dependencies. It'll just
>> list those and complain.
>
> This needn't be a disaster. 'apt -f install' fixes the dependencies.
>


'apt install ./foo.deb' (if .deb is in the current directory) will kill
both birds with a single stone it appears (famous final weasel words).

-- 
"She was a blank wall, fresh painted." 
Louise Erdrich, Love Medicine

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#198724

From	Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date	2018-08-13 19:30 +0200
Message-ID	<wmoPf-t6-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#198723

On Mon 13 Aug 2018 at 16:58:18 +0000, Curt wrote:

> On 2018-08-13, Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> wrote:
> >> > 
> >> > I really don't know what you're talking about, dpkg knows nothing about apt
> >> > and its repositories, it can't install any dependency.
> >> 
> >> You're right: it won't download & install dependencies. It'll just
> >> list those and complain.
> >
> > This needn't be a disaster. 'apt -f install' fixes the dependencies.
> >
> 
> 
> 'apt install ./foo.deb' (if .deb is in the current directory) will kill
> both birds with a single stone it appears (famous final weasel words).

Stoatly agree with you.

-- 
Brian.

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#198720

From	Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date	2018-08-13 18:00 +0200
Message-ID	<wmnqa-7Yt-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#198718

On Mon 13 Aug 2018 at 17:49:08 +0200, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:

> On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 08:35:50AM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> > On Mon, 13 Aug 2018 06:47:02 -0500
> > Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> wrote:
> > 
> > > PREAMBLE:
> > > I've downloaded a .deb file.
> > > I've recently done such an install but don't remember how.
> > > Looking at the man pages for apt, apt-get, aptitude didn't help.
> > > Couldn't come up with useful search term for wiki.
> > > Eventually recalled "dpkg -i" which worked.
> > > 
> > > QUESTION:
> > > How would someone find the answer if the answer wasn't already known?
> > > I went thru the same sequence last time.
> > > 
> > 
> > I use gdebi to install local .deb files. It handles the dependencies,
> > too.
> 
> As I said already, dpkg does install dependencies. Actually, I don't
> know any (Debian) tool which wouldn't, by default.

I don't think it does, y'know. That's why apt-get was created.

-- 
Brian.

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#198786

From	Cindy-Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com>
Date	2018-08-14 19:50 +0200
Message-ID	<wmLC9-5uX-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#198720

On 8/13/18, Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> wrote:
> On Mon 13 Aug 2018 at 17:49:08 +0200, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 08:35:50AM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
>> > On Mon, 13 Aug 2018 06:47:02 -0500
>> > Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > > PREAMBLE:
>> > > I've downloaded a .deb file.
>> > > I've recently done such an install but don't remember how.
>> > > Looking at the man pages for apt, apt-get, aptitude didn't help.
>> > > Couldn't come up with useful search term for wiki.
>> > > Eventually recalled "dpkg -i" which worked.
>> > >
>> > > QUESTION:
>> > > How would someone find the answer if the answer wasn't already known?
>> > > I went thru the same sequence last time.
>> > >
>> >
>> > I use gdebi to install local .deb files. It handles the dependencies,
>> > too.
>>
>> As I said already, dpkg does install dependencies. Actually, I don't
>> know any (Debian) tool which wouldn't, by default.
>
> I don't think it does, y'know. That's why apt-get was created.

I always need someone else to say the right thing to trigger thoughts.
That's a good one there. Dpkg DOES complain about, i.e. dpkg DOES name
the right dependencies that are missing. It just doesn't go that extra
mile to help bring them on home.

To date, I've been lucky when going that route on occasionally regular
occasion. The list of dependencies has been short... as has the list
of secondary (?) dependencies that the immediately relevant
dependencies... depend on to do THEIR own part of the whole. Each one
needed has to be singularly tracked down and then installed.

Very manual process. If you're into really "seeing" how things
interact, that's one route that'll help catch a quick peek...
including learning how to track down more packages *that won't kill
your system* if those dependencies aren't immediately available
through one's favored package repository. I invariably end up
distracted by something shiny incidentally discovered when I
absolutely have to go that route..

Cindy :)
-- 
Cindy-Sue Causey
Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA

* Minutes from submitting my very first official Linux patch ever... \
                               Unless someone beats me to it in 3...2...1 *

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#198817

From	Jason <electron@emypeople.net>
Date	2018-08-15 13:10 +0200
Message-ID	<wn1QC-6Qe-19@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#198786

On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 01:47:25PM -0400, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote:
> On 8/13/18, Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> wrote:
> > On Mon 13 Aug 2018 at 17:49:08 +0200, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 08:35:50AM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> >> > On Mon, 13 Aug 2018 06:47:02 -0500
> >> > Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> wrote:

SNIP...

> >> As I said already, dpkg does install dependencies. Actually, I don't
> >> know any (Debian) tool which wouldn't, by default.
> >
> > I don't think it does, y'know. That's why apt-get was created.
> 
> 
> I always need someone else to say the right thing to trigger thoughts.
> That's a good one there. Dpkg DOES complain about, i.e. dpkg DOES name
> the right dependencies that are missing. It just doesn't go that extra
> mile to help bring them on home.

Maybe you'd find this command relevant when installing packages
manually:

apt-get --print-uris --yes install $PACKAGE_NAME | grep ^\' | cut -d\' -f2

creates a list of needed downloads to install $PACKAGE_NAME. I don't
know who gets the credit for that one but it seems pretty nifty.

> To date, I've been lucky when going that route on occasionally regular
> occasion. The list of dependencies has been short... as has the list
> of secondary (?) dependencies that the immediately relevant
> dependencies... depend on to do THEIR own part of the whole. Each one
> needed has to be singularly tracked down and then installed.
> 
> Very manual process. If you're into really "seeing" how things
> interact, that's one route that'll help catch a quick peek...
> including learning how to track down more packages *that won't kill
> your system* if those dependencies aren't immediately available
> through one's favored package repository. I invariably end up
> distracted by something shiny incidentally discovered when I
> absolutely have to go that route..
> 
> Cindy :)

-- 
Jason

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#198738

From	Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com>
Date	2018-08-14 04:10 +0200
Message-ID	<wmwWu-5gm-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#198718

On Mon, 13 Aug 2018 17:49:08 +0200
<tomas@tuxteam.de> wrote:

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> On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 08:35:50AM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> > On Mon, 13 Aug 2018 06:47:02 -0500
> > Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> wrote:
> >   
> > > PREAMBLE:
> > > I've downloaded a .deb file.
> > > I've recently done such an install but don't remember how.
> > > Looking at the man pages for apt, apt-get, aptitude didn't help.
> > > Couldn't come up with useful search term for wiki.
> > > Eventually recalled "dpkg -i" which worked.
> > > 
> > > QUESTION:
> > > How would someone find the answer if the answer wasn't already
> > > known? I went thru the same sequence last time.
> > >   
> > 
> > I use gdebi to install local .deb files. It handles the
> > dependencies, too.  
> 
> As I said already, dpkg does install dependencies. Actually, I don't
> know any (Debian) tool which wouldn't, by default.

It never did for me. Not when I was using Sarge, Etch and Wheezy, that
is. Also, apt-get wouldn't install a downloaded and locally saved .deb
file either. I'm sure those caveats have been corrected with apt, but
I've yet to try under Stretch.  Gdebi still works just fine.

To each his own. 

B

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#198744

From	<tomas@tuxteam.de>
Date	2018-08-14 09:00 +0200
Message-ID	<wmBt7-7VN-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#198738

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On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 07:05:33PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Aug 2018 17:49:08 +0200
> <tomas@tuxteam.de> wrote:

[...]

> > As I said already, dpkg does install dependencies. Actually, I don't
> > know any (Debian) tool which wouldn't, by default.
> 
> It never did for me [...]

I already retracted somewhere else in this thread-forest. Sorry.

Cheers
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#198779

From	Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com>
Date	2018-08-14 17:00 +0200
Message-ID	<wmIXD-3Vg-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#198744

On Tue, 14 Aug 2018 08:56:17 +0200
<tomas@tuxteam.de> wrote:

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> On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 07:05:33PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> > On Mon, 13 Aug 2018 17:49:08 +0200
> > <tomas@tuxteam.de> wrote:  
> 
> [...]
> 
> > > As I said already, dpkg does install dependencies. Actually, I
> > > don't know any (Debian) tool which wouldn't, by default.  
> > 
> > It never did for me [...]  
> 
> I already retracted somewhere else in this thread-forest. Sorry.

I saw it, but not until after I replied to your message.

No apology needed.  Live and learn.

B

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