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| Started by | tech <tech@rkn.ovh> |
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| First post | 2018-08-09 19:40 +0200 |
| Last post | 2018-08-11 11:00 +0200 |
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mailing list vs "the futur" tech <tech@rkn.ovh> - 2018-08-09 19:40 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-08-09 19:50 +0200
RE: mailing list vs "the futur" tech <tech@rkn.ovh> - 2018-08-09 20:10 +0200
RE: mailing list vs "the futur" tech <tech@rkn.ovh> - 2018-08-09 20:20 +0200
RE: mailing list vs "the futur" deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2018-08-10 01:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-08-10 03:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2018-08-10 12:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Rich Kulawiec <rsk@gsp.org> - 2018-08-10 13:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-08-10 14:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-10 14:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> - 2018-08-10 14:40 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-10 15:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-10 15:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Rich Kulawiec <rsk@gsp.org> - 2018-08-10 14:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dave Sherohman <dave@sherohman.org> - 2018-08-10 15:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2018-08-10 16:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2018-08-10 15:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" cyaiplexys <cyaiplexys@sitesplace.net> - 2018-08-10 18:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2018-08-10 15:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-10 15:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" "Michelle Konzack" <linux4michelle@tamay-dogan.net> - 2018-08-11 11:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-12 14:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-10 15:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" "Michelle Konzack" <linux4michelle@tamay-dogan.net> - 2018-08-11 10:40 +0200
Re: Re: mailing list vs "the futur" dekkzz78@gmail.com - 2018-08-11 11:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> - 2018-08-12 15:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-10 13:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2018-08-10 16:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" rhkramer@gmail.com - 2018-08-23 22:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2018-08-23 22:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 03:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" "James H. H. Lampert" <jamesl@touchtonecorp.com> - 2018-08-09 21:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-10 12:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" rhkramer@gmail.com - 2018-08-23 21:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" "Martin McCormick" <martin.m@suddenlink.net> - 2018-08-23 23:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Piotr Martyniuk <zaxonxp45@gmail.com> - 2018-08-24 08:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> - 2018-08-24 08:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Piotr Martyniuk <zaxonxp45@gmail.com> - 2018-08-24 09:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> - 2018-08-24 11:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" "Michelle Konzack" <linux4michelle@tamay-dogan.net> - 2018-08-24 21:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2018-08-24 21:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2018-08-24 22:40 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-24 23:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-08-25 01:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-25 02:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-08-25 21:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-25 21:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-08-27 17:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-27 17:40 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2018-08-27 18:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-27 22:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2018-08-27 22:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Mark Rousell <mark.rousell@signal100.com> - 2018-08-28 10:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-28 13:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Mark Rousell <mark.rousell@signal100.com> - 2018-08-28 15:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-28 15:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-28 16:40 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-28 20:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-28 16:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-28 16:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-28 16:40 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-28 17:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Mark Rousell <mark.rousell@signal100.com> - 2018-08-28 17:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-28 21:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-29 00:40 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Mark Rousell <mark.rousell@signal100.com> - 2018-08-29 01:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-29 03:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-29 03:40 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-29 09:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-29 17:40 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-08-29 17:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-29 18:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-29 19:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-08-29 19:40 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-30 12:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-08-30 14:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-30 15:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-08-30 21:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-31 12:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dave Sherohman <dave@sherohman.org> - 2018-09-04 12:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-09-04 14:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-09-04 15:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-09-04 17:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-09-04 18:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-09-04 18:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-09-04 19:50 +0200
[Off-topic] Was: mailing list vs "the futur" John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-04 20:20 +0200
Re: [Off-topic] Was: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-09-04 20:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Liam O'Toole <liam.p.otoole@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 03:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-09-05 04:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2018-09-05 09:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-04 20:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-09-04 20:30 +0200
[Off-topic] Was: mailing list vs "the futur" John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-04 20:50 +0200
Re: [Off-topic] Was: mailing list vs "the futur" Default User <hunguponcontent@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 21:20 +0200
Re: [Off-topic] Was: mailing list vs "the futur" Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2018-09-04 21:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2018-09-04 17:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-09-04 15:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2018-09-04 16:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 12:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-09-01 12:40 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-29 18:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2018-08-29 19:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2018-08-29 02:40 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-29 09:40 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-29 12:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-29 12:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-29 12:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-29 12:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-29 12:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-29 13:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-29 14:40 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-29 14:40 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-29 15:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-29 17:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-29 18:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-29 21:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-30 12:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-30 14:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-29 17:40 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-29 21:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-30 00:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-08-30 01:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Bob Bernstein <poobah@ruptured-duck.com> - 2018-09-01 20:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-09-01 22:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Bob Bernstein <poobah@ruptured-duck.com> - 2018-09-01 23:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-09-02 10:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-02 15:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-09-02 15:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-02 16:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2018-09-02 16:40 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2018-09-02 17:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-09-02 18:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-09-02 17:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-09-02 18:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-09-02 18:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Bob Bernstein <poobah@ruptured-duck.com> - 2018-09-03 07:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> - 2018-09-03 08:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2018-09-03 07:40 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-09-03 13:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2018-09-03 15:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-09-03 16:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2018-09-03 13:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-29 12:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2018-08-29 12:40 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 11:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-09-01 16:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-29 13:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-29 13:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-29 13:40 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-08-29 14:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-29 14:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-08-29 14:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-29 14:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-29 14:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-29 14:40 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-08-29 14:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-08-29 14:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-29 15:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-29 14:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-29 14:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-28 14:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-28 01:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-28 09:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-28 13:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Mark Rousell <mark.rousell@signal100.com> - 2018-08-28 14:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-28 15:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Mark Rousell <mark.rousell@signal100.com> - 2018-08-28 16:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-28 16:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Mark Rousell <mark.rousell@signal100.com> - 2018-08-28 18:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Mark Rousell <mark.rousell@signal100.com> - 2018-08-28 18:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-28 19:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2018-08-28 20:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Mark Rousell <mark.rousell@signal100.com> - 2018-08-28 20:40 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Mark Rousell <mark.rousell@signal100.com> - 2018-08-28 20:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Mark Rousell <mark.rousell@signal100.com> - 2018-08-28 20:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-28 22:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Mark Rousell <mark.rousell@signal100.com> - 2018-08-28 18:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-28 19:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2018-08-28 20:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Mark Rousell <mark.rousell@signal100.com> - 2018-08-28 16:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Mark Rousell <mark.rousell@signal100.com> - 2018-08-28 10:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-08-27 19:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-28 01:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-28 05:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-08-25 12:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-25 14:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-08-25 15:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> - 2018-08-24 15:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-24 18:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-08-24 18:40 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2018-08-24 19:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2018-08-24 19:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2018-08-24 19:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2018-08-24 20:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2018-08-24 20:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2018-08-24 20:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> - 2018-08-25 01:40 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dave Sherohman <dave@sherohman.org> - 2018-08-27 10:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" rhkramer@gmail.com - 2018-08-27 13:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-27 14:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-27 16:00 +0200
Re: Re: mailing list vs "the futur" dekkzz78@gmail.com - 2018-08-27 16:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" rhkramer@gmail.com - 2018-08-27 17:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2018-08-25 10:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> - 2018-08-25 02:50 +0200
Re: mailing list is the future (corrected spelling mistakes) Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2018-08-09 20:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2018-08-09 21:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> - 2018-08-12 16:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Ben Finney <bignose@debian.org> - 2018-08-09 22:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" "Michelle Konzack" <linux4michelle@tamay-dogan.net> - 2018-08-11 11:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> - 2018-08-12 16:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Rich Kulawiec <rsk@gsp.org> - 2018-08-10 01:40 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Mark Rousell <mark.rousell@signal100.com> - 2018-08-11 00:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Rob van der Putten <rob@sput.nl> - 2018-08-11 11:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> - 2018-08-12 16:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2018-08-12 20:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-13 12:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> - 2018-08-13 16:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-13 12:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2018-08-10 10:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2018-08-10 12:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Shea Alterio <krusete@gmail.com> - 2018-08-10 18:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-10 12:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2018-08-11 14:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-11 15:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-08-13 15:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-13 16:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> - 2018-08-13 16:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Mark Rousell <mark.rousell@signal100.com> - 2018-08-11 00:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" arne <sp113438@telfort.nl> - 2018-08-11 00:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" dekkzz78@gmail.com - 2018-08-11 11:00 +0200
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 07:48:01AM -0400, rhkramer@gmail.com wrote: > On Monday, August 27, 2018 04:12:32 AM Dave Sherohman wrote: > > The only problem I can ever recall seeing with mailing lists and long > > threads is when people don't trim the posts they're replying to. > > That never happens on this list, does it (with tongue deeply in cheek). Not that I knew of, oh no, Sir ;-) Cheers - -- t -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAluD6u4ACgkQBcgs9XrR2kZkdgCfSuyuVagjx4yLhrSX/9aCbmri hjAAnRfVMjX+ZymcCvaV8ojveDoDyLEy =8IKT -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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| From | Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> |
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| Date | 2018-08-27 16:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <wrqdH-7kc-9@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #199413 |
On Monday 27 August 2018 07:48:01 rhkramer@gmail.com wrote: > On Monday, August 27, 2018 04:12:32 AM Dave Sherohman wrote: > > The only problem I can ever recall seeing with mailing lists and > > long threads is when people don't trim the posts they're replying > > to. > > That never happens on this list, does it (with tongue deeply in > cheek). Don't byte down, guy. You'll be ending your posts with frownies for a while. ;-) -- Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
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| From | dekkzz78@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-08-27 16:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <wrqx4-7FD-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #199408 |
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On 08/27, Dave Sherohman wrote: >On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 07:23:15PM +0100, mick crane wrote: >> mailing list are great until one of the threads gets really, really, really >> long > >...and then they're *REALLY* great. > >The only problem I can ever recall seeing with mailing lists and long >threads is when people don't trim the posts they're replying to. Isn't that usually due to topic drift in which case break the thread under a new title? >-- >Dave Sherohman > -- regards..... Dekks Herton Thinkpad T61 2.0Ghz 2GB WSXGA+ Jabber IM: dekkzz78@jabber.hot-chilli.net
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| From | rhkramer@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-08-27 17:30 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <wrrCO-8hh-7@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #199424 |
On Monday, August 27, 2018 10:18:28 AM dekkzz78@gmail.com wrote: > On 08/27, Dave Sherohman wrote: > >The only problem I can ever recall seeing with mailing lists and long > >threads is when people don't trim the posts they're replying to. > > Isn't that usually due to topic drift in which case break the thread under > a new title? No, I would say not -- well, maybe topic drift, but, too often I see an email with several points or suggestions in it, then someone quotes the entire post and says something like "I agree" or "that worked for me" at the bottom. Well, which do you agree with, which worked for you? I try to trim so that only points that I am responding to remain in the post, with just enough contextual information so someone can (imho, should) be able to make sense of it. And, even if the agree with everything (or everything worked), why leave all that old text in the post -- it is just extra stuff that my eye (and maybe brain) has to deal with. I don't always follow or manage to comply with the following rule, but have it as one of my goals: "The writer should make it easy on the reader -- there is only one writer, but there could be millions of readers." (Now, granted, there is also the aphorisim (right word) that: "I did not have time to write you a short letter, so I wrote a long one", and, indeed, sometimes I don't take the time to write a short letter (or enough knowledge / understanding to do so.) Hope everyone has a good day!
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| From | Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> |
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| Date | 2018-08-25 10:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <wqBEd-2Kp-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #199324 |
On Friday, 24 Aug 2018 at 21:06, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 06:45:00PM +0100, Eric S Fraga wrote: >> On Friday, 24 Aug 2018 at 20:15, Reco wrote: >> > -INT_MAX. I win. >> >> -1 (wraps around so = INT_MAX) and I win! > > Damn. Should've seen this. Will use long int next time. :-) -- Eric S Fraga via Emacs 27.0.50 & org 9.1.13 on Debian buster/sid
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| From | Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> |
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| Date | 2018-08-25 02:50 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <wquW5-7f4-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #199322 |
On 25/08/2018 05:45, Eric S Fraga wrote: > On Friday, 24 Aug 2018 at 20:15, Reco wrote: >> -INT_MAX. I win. > -1 (wraps around so = INT_MAX) and I win! No, it is the other way around for two's complement: INT_MIN = -INT_MAX - 1 Two's complement is unbalanced. You do not know the power of the dark (negative) side. For example, for signed 32-bit integers using two's complement (C/C++ int on most current architectures and JVM int). INT_MAX = 2**31 - 1 = 2147483647 INT_MIN = -2**31 = -2147483648 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integer_(computer_science) Kind regards, -- Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> Director Transient Software Limited <https://transient.nz/> New Zealand
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| From | Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> |
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| Date | 2018-08-09 20:10 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: mailing list is the future (corrected spelling mistakes) |
| Message-ID | <wkXxM-6Nw-13@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #198510 |
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On Thu, 9 Aug 2018 17:39:36 +0000
tech <tech@rkn.ovh> wrote:
Hello tech,
>modern like a bugzilla or else ???
The wheel has been around several thousand years. Perhaps we should
replace that too.
You don't like MLs; Nobody is forcing you to use them.
--
Regards _
/ ) "The blindingly obvious is
/ _)rad never immediately apparent"
It's only bits of plastic, lines projected on the wall
Keep It Clean - The Vibrators
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| From | Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-08-09 21:10 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <wkYtP-7nj-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #198510 |
On 08/09/2018 01:39 PM, tech wrote: > Should'nt be time to move away from an old mail-listing to something > more modern like a bugzilla or else ??? Why?? There already are plenty of such sites, you need only pick and choose. I like it here as I don't have to read a "me too!" message with a meg of attachments, html ads and rainbow snorting unicorns. If you really are a "tech", you would know better than ask. -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. http://linuxcounter.net/user/44256.html
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| From | Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> |
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| Date | 2018-08-12 16:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <wlZ4t-246-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #198524 |
On Thu, Aug 09, 2018 at 03:03:49PM -0400, Ric Moore wrote: > On 08/09/2018 01:39 PM, tech wrote: > > > Should'nt be time to move away from an old mail-listing to something more > > modern like a bugzilla or else ??? > > Why?? There already are plenty of such sites, you need only pick and choose. I > like it here as I don't have to read a "me too!" message with a meg of > attachments, html ads and rainbow snorting unicorns. If you really are a > "tech", you would know better than ask. “Rainbow snorting unicornds” DAMN! I tried to come up with some witty response, anything, and for the first time in the last minute, my brain utterly failed me. That's good. Very good wordsmithing. ;)
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| From | Ben Finney <bignose@debian.org> |
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| Date | 2018-08-09 22:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <wkZzz-81W-7@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #198510 |
tech <tech@rkn.ovh> writes: > Should'nt be time to move away from an old mail-listing to something > more modern like a bugzilla or else ??? It's 2018. Shouldn't we move away from an old “keyboard” to something mroe modern like a data-glove? Less sarcastically: You have said nothing that demonstrates why a mailing list is not fit for the purpose. Merely because some things are newer does not make those things better. To argue for replacing an established system that works fine today, you have to actually demonstrate how it fails, and demonstrate how that failure is sufficiently bad for it to be replaced. Otherwise it stays, by default. -- \ “I was in Las Vegas, at the roulette table, having a furious | `\ argument over what I considered to be an odd number.” —Steven | _o__) Wright | Ben Finney
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| From | "Michelle Konzack" <linux4michelle@tamay-dogan.net> |
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| Date | 2018-08-11 11:10 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <wly4i-3ed-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #198528 |
Am DATE hackte Ben Finney in die Tasten: > It's 2018. Shouldn't we move away from an old “keyboard†to > something > mroe modern like a data-glove? I would prefer the Star Trek version: "Computer, show me Ben Finneys last 10 postings on debian user" -- Michelle Konzack Miila ITSystems @ TDnet GNU/Linux Developer 00372-54541400
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| From | Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> |
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| Date | 2018-08-12 16:10 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <wlZea-2mw-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #198606 |
On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 12:07:53PM +0300, Michelle Konzack wrote: > Am DATE hackte Ben Finney in die Tasten: > > It's 2018. Shouldn't we move away from an old “keyboard†to > > something > > mroe modern like a data-glove? > > I would prefer the Star Trek version: > > "Computer, show me Ben Finneys last 10 postings on debian user" I think this is quicker, more elegant and MUCH more intuitive: L~f finneyG Oh. Dear me! You mean you're NOT using mutt? ;D
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| From | Rich Kulawiec <rsk@gsp.org> |
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| Date | 2018-08-10 01:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <wl2H7-1oO-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #198510 |
On Thu, Aug 09, 2018 at 05:39:36PM +0000, tech wrote: > Should'nt be time to move away from an old mail-listing to something more modern like a bugzilla or else ??? No. This is an absolutely terrible idea. Here's why mailing lists are (along with Usenet newsgroups) vastly superior to web-based anything: 1. They're asynchronous: you don't have to interact in real time. You can download messages when connected to the Internet, then read them and compose responses when offline. 2. They work reasonably well even in the presence of multiple outages and severe congestion -- because they queue. 3. They're push, not pull, so new content just shows up. Web forums require that you go fishing for it. 4. They scale beautifully. 5. They allow you to use *your* software with the user interface of *your* choosing rather than being compelled to learn 687 different web forums with 687 different user interfaces, all of which range from "merely bad" to "hideously bad". 6. You can archive them locally... 7. ...which means you can search them locally with the software of *your* choice. Including when you're offline. And provided you make backups, you'll always have an archive -- even if the original goes away. (Those of who've been around for a while have seen a lot of web-based discussions vanish forever because a host crashed or a domain expired or a company went under or a company was acquired or someone made a mistake or there was a security breach or a government confiscated it.) 8. They're portable: lists can be rehosted relatively easily. 9. (When properly run) they're relatively free of abuse vectors. 10. They're low-bandwidth, which is especially important at a point in time when many people are interacting via metered services that charge by the byte and are WAY overpriced, and getting more overpriced every day. 11. They impose minimal security risk. 12. They impose minimal privacy risk. 13. They can be freely interconverted -- that is, you can move a list hosted by A using software B on operating system C to host X using software Y on operating system Z. 14. They're archivable in a format that is likely to be readable long into the future. (I have archives of lists from the early 1980's. Still readable with contemporary software because they're in mbox format. I see no sign that this will cease to be true.) 15. They can be written to media and read from it. This is a very non-trivial task with web forums: just try doing the equivalent of #13 above. Good luck with that. 16. They handle threading well. And provided users take a few seconds to edit properly, they handle quoting well. 17. Numerous tools exist for handling mbox format: for example, "grepmail" is a highly useful basic search tool. Most search engines include parsers for email, and the task of ingesting mail archives into search engines is very well understood. Excellent archiving tools exist as well. 18. The computing resources require to support them are minimal -- CPU, memory, disk, bandwidth, etc. (I recently set up an instance of Mailman for someone that's working perfectly fine on a 10-year-old laptop.) 19. Mailing lists interoperate. I can easily forward a message from this list to another one. Or to a person. I can send a message to multiple lists. I can forward a message from a person to this list. And so on. Try doing this with web forum software A on host B with destinations web forum software X and Y on hosts X1 and Y1. Good luck with that. 20. Mailing lists can be uni- or bidirectionally gatewayed to Usenet. (The main Python language mailing list is an example of this.) This can be highly useful. There's more, but I think this easily suffices to make a slamdunk case. ---rsk
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| From | Mark Rousell <mark.rousell@signal100.com> |
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| Date | 2018-08-11 00:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <wlnBU-5hf-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #198534 |
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On 10/08/2018 00:03, Rich Kulawiec wrote: > > No. This is an absolutely terrible idea. Here's why mailing lists > are (along with Usenet newsgroups) vastly superior to web-based anything: > [excellent list redacted for brevity] Well said! What a very useful list of the reasons that mail lists continue to have great practical utility. -- Mark Rousell
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| From | Rob van der Putten <rob@sput.nl> |
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| Date | 2018-08-11 11:50 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <wlyGZ-3qG-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #198534 |
Hi there On 10/08/18 01:03, Rich Kulawiec wrote: <Cut> > No. This is an absolutely terrible idea. Here's why mailing lists > are (along with Usenet newsgroups) vastly superior to web-based anything: I prefer Usenet to mailing lists. I read dozens of mailing lists and I don't want all that data on my computer. This is why I use a mail to news gateway. What I really like about Usenet, is the way everything is neatly organized by subject. The same applies to mailing lists when using a gateway. Further more I don't have to create an account for each group. I just subscribe. <Cut> Regards, Rob
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| From | Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> |
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| Date | 2018-08-12 16:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <wlZnP-2pL-9@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #198534 |
On Thu, Aug 09, 2018 at 07:03:29PM -0400, Rich Kulawiec wrote: ... mighty fine list you've got there - mailing lists are even better than I thought they were. > 19. Mailing lists interoperate. I can easily forward a message from this > list to another one. Or to a person. I can send a message to multiple > lists. I can forward a message from a person to this list. And so on. > Try doing this with web forum software A on host B with destinations > web forum software X and Y on hosts X1 and Y1. Good luck with that. Oh come on - this one's a no-brainer on the web - you click the Like button on the website, which takes you to a "Share with friend", and if it doesn't then see if there's a "Tweet" button and click that. Then all you have to do is log into your Facebook account and upload a photo of the latte coffee art you just purchased - to make sure the target of your message takes interest in this post on your wall. If your forwardee friend fails to notice your fine coffee art photo, simply create a new Facebook group for them to join called "MyDebianPrinterProblemForJohn" or something, and then log into that group and send an invite to your friend, tweet that you've created the group, hope the tweet helps massage your tech cred daily profile, tumblr the coffee art and send a reply to the mailing list with links to the above if all else fails. It's like, not exactly, like hard or anything. Like. > 20. Mailing lists can be uni- or bidirectionally gatewayed to Usenet. > (The main Python language mailing list is an example of this.) This can > be highly useful. > > There's more, but I think this easily suffices to make a slamdunk case. Except for the clear superiority of the web uptions above. <ahem>
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| From | Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> |
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| Date | 2018-08-12 20:10 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <wm2Yq-4xL-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #198664 |
On 8/12/18 8:10 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On Thu, Aug 09, 2018 at 07:03:29PM -0400, Rich Kulawiec wrote: > > ... mighty fine list you've got there - mailing lists are even better > than I thought they were. > >> 19. Mailing lists interoperate. I can easily forward a message from this >> list to another one. Or to a person. I can send a message to multiple >> lists. I can forward a message from a person to this list. And so on. >> Try doing this with web forum software A on host B with destinations >> web forum software X and Y on hosts X1 and Y1. Good luck with that. > Oh come on - this one's a no-brainer on the web - you click the Like > button on the website, which takes you to a "Share with friend", and > if it doesn't then see if there's a "Tweet" button and click that. And then there's LinkedIn - which makes it nearly impossible to share things with anything other than another LinkedIn user (except by using one's browser to mail the item or a link). Nope. Forwarding by email is about the only universal way to share stuff, or to move it from some service or another to one's personal storage (I can't tell you how often I email stuff to myself). Miles Fidelman -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. .... Yogi Berra
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| From | Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> |
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| Date | 2018-08-13 12:30 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <wmigO-54p-13@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #198673 |
Miles Fidelman wrote: > [...] > Forwarding by email is about the only universal way to share > stuff, or to move it from some service or another to one's personal > storage (I can't tell you how often I email stuff to myself). Thankfully I only have to do the "mail it to myself" approach rarely, like when some "i'm a pro admin" type locks things down tighter than an Everlast Chastity Belt. "Look bud, connecting to port 22 is kind of important". Although, I have recently started running an owncloud instance for just that reason. -- |_|O|_| Registered Linux user #585947 |_|_|O| Github: https://github.com/dpurgert |O|O|O| PGP: 05CA 9A50 3F2E 1335 4DC5 4AEE 8E11 DDF3 1279 A281
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| From | Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> |
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| Date | 2018-08-13 16:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <wmly2-6Sn-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #198688 |
On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 10:16:17AM -0000, Dan Purgert wrote: > Miles Fidelman wrote: > > [...] > > Forwarding by email is about the only universal way to share > > stuff, or to move it from some service or another to one's personal > > storage (I can't tell you how often I email stuff to myself). > > Thankfully I only have to do the "mail it to myself" approach rarely, > like when some "i'm a pro admin" type locks things down tighter than an > Everlast Chastity Belt. > > "Look bud, connecting to port 22 is kind of important". > > Although, I have recently started running an owncloud instance for just > that reason. Solving tech problems without email is ... like gas chambers with rickety wooden paling-fence doors.
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| From | Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> |
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| Date | 2018-08-13 12:30 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <wmigN-54p-7@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #198664 |
Zenaan Harkness wrote: > [...] > If your forwardee friend fails to notice your fine coffee art photo, > simply create a new Facebook group for them to join called > "MyDebianPrinterProblemForJohn" or something, and then log into that > group and send an invite to your friend, tweet that you've created > the group, hope the tweet helps massage your tech cred daily profile, > tumblr the coffee art and send a reply to the mailing list with links > to the above if all else fails. > > It's like, not exactly, like hard or anything. Like. I'm pretty sure that just gave me a stroke. Also, https://xkcd.com/763/ -- |_|O|_| Registered Linux user #585947 |_|_|O| Github: https://github.com/dpurgert |O|O|O| PGP: 05CA 9A50 3F2E 1335 4DC5 4AEE 8E11 DDF3 1279 A281
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