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| Started by | tech <tech@rkn.ovh> |
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| First post | 2018-08-09 19:40 +0200 |
| Last post | 2018-08-11 11:00 +0200 |
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mailing list vs "the futur" tech <tech@rkn.ovh> - 2018-08-09 19:40 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-08-09 19:50 +0200
RE: mailing list vs "the futur" tech <tech@rkn.ovh> - 2018-08-09 20:10 +0200
RE: mailing list vs "the futur" tech <tech@rkn.ovh> - 2018-08-09 20:20 +0200
RE: mailing list vs "the futur" deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2018-08-10 01:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-08-10 03:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2018-08-10 12:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Rich Kulawiec <rsk@gsp.org> - 2018-08-10 13:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-08-10 14:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-10 14:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> - 2018-08-10 14:40 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-10 15:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-10 15:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Rich Kulawiec <rsk@gsp.org> - 2018-08-10 14:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dave Sherohman <dave@sherohman.org> - 2018-08-10 15:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2018-08-10 16:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2018-08-10 15:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" cyaiplexys <cyaiplexys@sitesplace.net> - 2018-08-10 18:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2018-08-10 15:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-10 15:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" "Michelle Konzack" <linux4michelle@tamay-dogan.net> - 2018-08-11 11:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-12 14:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-10 15:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" "Michelle Konzack" <linux4michelle@tamay-dogan.net> - 2018-08-11 10:40 +0200
Re: Re: mailing list vs "the futur" dekkzz78@gmail.com - 2018-08-11 11:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> - 2018-08-12 15:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-10 13:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2018-08-10 16:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" rhkramer@gmail.com - 2018-08-23 22:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2018-08-23 22:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 03:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" "James H. H. Lampert" <jamesl@touchtonecorp.com> - 2018-08-09 21:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-10 12:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" rhkramer@gmail.com - 2018-08-23 21:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" "Martin McCormick" <martin.m@suddenlink.net> - 2018-08-23 23:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Piotr Martyniuk <zaxonxp45@gmail.com> - 2018-08-24 08:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> - 2018-08-24 08:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Piotr Martyniuk <zaxonxp45@gmail.com> - 2018-08-24 09:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> - 2018-08-24 11:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" "Michelle Konzack" <linux4michelle@tamay-dogan.net> - 2018-08-24 21:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2018-08-24 21:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2018-08-24 22:40 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-24 23:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-08-25 01:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-25 02:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-08-25 21:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-25 21:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-08-27 17:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-27 17:40 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2018-08-27 18:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-27 22:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2018-08-27 22:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Mark Rousell <mark.rousell@signal100.com> - 2018-08-28 10:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-28 13:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Mark Rousell <mark.rousell@signal100.com> - 2018-08-28 15:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-28 15:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-28 16:40 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-28 20:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-28 16:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-28 16:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-28 16:40 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-28 17:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Mark Rousell <mark.rousell@signal100.com> - 2018-08-28 17:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-28 21:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-29 00:40 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Mark Rousell <mark.rousell@signal100.com> - 2018-08-29 01:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-29 03:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-29 03:40 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-29 09:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-29 17:40 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-08-29 17:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-29 18:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-29 19:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-08-29 19:40 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-30 12:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-08-30 14:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-30 15:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-08-30 21:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-31 12:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dave Sherohman <dave@sherohman.org> - 2018-09-04 12:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-09-04 14:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-09-04 15:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-09-04 17:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-09-04 18:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-09-04 18:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-09-04 19:50 +0200
[Off-topic] Was: mailing list vs "the futur" John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-04 20:20 +0200
Re: [Off-topic] Was: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-09-04 20:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Liam O'Toole <liam.p.otoole@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 03:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-09-05 04:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2018-09-05 09:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-04 20:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-09-04 20:30 +0200
[Off-topic] Was: mailing list vs "the futur" John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-04 20:50 +0200
Re: [Off-topic] Was: mailing list vs "the futur" Default User <hunguponcontent@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 21:20 +0200
Re: [Off-topic] Was: mailing list vs "the futur" Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2018-09-04 21:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2018-09-04 17:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-09-04 15:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2018-09-04 16:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 12:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-09-01 12:40 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-29 18:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2018-08-29 19:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2018-08-29 02:40 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-29 09:40 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-29 12:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-29 12:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-29 12:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-29 12:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-29 12:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-29 13:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-29 14:40 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-29 14:40 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-29 15:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-29 17:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-29 18:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-29 21:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-30 12:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-30 14:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-29 17:40 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-29 21:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-30 00:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-08-30 01:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Bob Bernstein <poobah@ruptured-duck.com> - 2018-09-01 20:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-09-01 22:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Bob Bernstein <poobah@ruptured-duck.com> - 2018-09-01 23:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-09-02 10:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-02 15:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-09-02 15:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-02 16:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2018-09-02 16:40 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2018-09-02 17:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-09-02 18:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-09-02 17:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-09-02 18:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-09-02 18:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Bob Bernstein <poobah@ruptured-duck.com> - 2018-09-03 07:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> - 2018-09-03 08:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2018-09-03 07:40 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-09-03 13:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2018-09-03 15:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-09-03 16:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2018-09-03 13:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-29 12:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2018-08-29 12:40 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 11:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-09-01 16:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-29 13:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-29 13:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-29 13:40 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-08-29 14:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-29 14:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-08-29 14:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-29 14:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-29 14:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-29 14:40 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-08-29 14:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-08-29 14:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-29 15:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-29 14:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-29 14:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-28 14:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-28 01:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-28 09:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-28 13:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Mark Rousell <mark.rousell@signal100.com> - 2018-08-28 14:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-28 15:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Mark Rousell <mark.rousell@signal100.com> - 2018-08-28 16:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-28 16:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Mark Rousell <mark.rousell@signal100.com> - 2018-08-28 18:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Mark Rousell <mark.rousell@signal100.com> - 2018-08-28 18:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-28 19:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2018-08-28 20:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Mark Rousell <mark.rousell@signal100.com> - 2018-08-28 20:40 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Mark Rousell <mark.rousell@signal100.com> - 2018-08-28 20:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Mark Rousell <mark.rousell@signal100.com> - 2018-08-28 20:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-28 22:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Mark Rousell <mark.rousell@signal100.com> - 2018-08-28 18:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-28 19:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2018-08-28 20:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Mark Rousell <mark.rousell@signal100.com> - 2018-08-28 16:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Mark Rousell <mark.rousell@signal100.com> - 2018-08-28 10:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-08-27 19:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-28 01:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-28 05:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-08-25 12:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-25 14:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-08-25 15:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> - 2018-08-24 15:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-24 18:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-08-24 18:40 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2018-08-24 19:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2018-08-24 19:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2018-08-24 19:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2018-08-24 20:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2018-08-24 20:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2018-08-24 20:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> - 2018-08-25 01:40 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dave Sherohman <dave@sherohman.org> - 2018-08-27 10:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" rhkramer@gmail.com - 2018-08-27 13:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-27 14:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-27 16:00 +0200
Re: Re: mailing list vs "the futur" dekkzz78@gmail.com - 2018-08-27 16:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" rhkramer@gmail.com - 2018-08-27 17:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2018-08-25 10:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> - 2018-08-25 02:50 +0200
Re: mailing list is the future (corrected spelling mistakes) Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2018-08-09 20:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2018-08-09 21:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> - 2018-08-12 16:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Ben Finney <bignose@debian.org> - 2018-08-09 22:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" "Michelle Konzack" <linux4michelle@tamay-dogan.net> - 2018-08-11 11:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> - 2018-08-12 16:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Rich Kulawiec <rsk@gsp.org> - 2018-08-10 01:40 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Mark Rousell <mark.rousell@signal100.com> - 2018-08-11 00:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Rob van der Putten <rob@sput.nl> - 2018-08-11 11:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> - 2018-08-12 16:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2018-08-12 20:10 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-13 12:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> - 2018-08-13 16:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-13 12:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2018-08-10 10:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2018-08-10 12:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Shea Alterio <krusete@gmail.com> - 2018-08-10 18:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-10 12:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2018-08-11 14:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-11 15:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-08-13 15:30 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-13 16:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> - 2018-08-13 16:20 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Mark Rousell <mark.rousell@signal100.com> - 2018-08-11 00:00 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" arne <sp113438@telfort.nl> - 2018-08-11 00:50 +0200
Re: mailing list vs "the futur" dekkzz78@gmail.com - 2018-08-11 11:00 +0200
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| From | tech <tech@rkn.ovh> |
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| Date | 2018-08-09 19:40 +0200 |
| Subject | mailing list vs "the futur" |
| Message-ID | <wkX4K-6nu-11@gated-at.bofh.it> |
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The way most people keep up to date on network news is through subscription to a number of mail reflectors (also known as mail exploders). Mail reflectors are special electronic mailboxes which, when they receive a message, resend it to a list of other mailboxes. This in effect creates a discussion group on a particular topic. - E. Krol; The Hitchhikers Guide to the Internet; RFC 1118; Sept. 1989. Seem's the first "bitnic listserv" is dated from 1984 ! More than 34 years ago ! Just as a reminder, we are now in 2018 ... something called the XXI century ... with 4G, optical FTTH connection, smartphones ... Should'nt be time to move away from an old mail-listing to something more modern like a bugzilla or else ???
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| From | Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> |
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| Date | 2018-08-09 19:50 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <wkXep-6r8-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #198510 |
On Thu, Aug 09, 2018 at 05:39:36PM +0000, tech wrote: > Should'nt be time to move away from an old mail-listing to something more modern like a bugzilla or else ??? No.
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| From | tech <tech@rkn.ovh> |
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| Date | 2018-08-09 20:10 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <wkXxL-6Nw-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #198513 |
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... and why not ? As an example, with a bugzilla, you dont have to dig in n*thousands of "unread" mails,. You can organized, have a clear view with a dashboard... and so on. And bugzilla is just one possibility. Since augusth 1st: I received around 12 familly mails, 62 pro-mails, 147 spam/pishing/bullshit mails Between all the debian mails list who exist, i receives also 168 emails. I have maybee read 20 of them, and deleted all the others... Too much informations, help, news, updates .... simply making those listing useless ! I have sent the following emails, received zero anwsers. With a "modern" system like a bugzilla/forum/tracker/else and their moder options, i can know how many peoples have read it ( 23 answer for 9876 readsfor example ) ... with the mailings list, how many people took relly the time to read it ( as i direct-delete most of he amils i receive ) ... with your "no" spirit, we would still have an horse and wagon like my old-old-old grandpa ! ________________________________ De : Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> Envoyé : jeudi 9 août 2018 19:47:24 À : debian-user@lists.debian.org Objet : Re: mailing list vs "the futur" On Thu, Aug 09, 2018 at 05:39:36PM +0000, tech wrote: > Should'nt be time to move away from an old mail-listing to something more modern like a bugzilla or else ??? No.
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| From | tech <tech@rkn.ovh> |
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| Date | 2018-08-09 20:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <wkXHr-6QK-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #198518 |
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as i dont want to troll the debian-list, and as i already received several mails ( a first for me ) saying i am a dumbass, a stupid eager young .... for the audience, i will stop the broadcast of bad words here. i need to go to the post office to send a letter, so i will take my horse ... as i leave approximatly at 39 km, iand my horse is running at 21 Km/h, it will take for the round trip around 4 hours to come back ... ________________________________ De : tech <tech@rkn.ovh> Envoyé : jeudi 9 août 2018 20:05:41 À : Greg Wooledge; debian-user@lists.debian.org Objet : RE: mailing list vs "the futur" ... and why not ? As an example, with a bugzilla, you dont have to dig in n*thousands of "unread" mails,. You can organized, have a clear view with a dashboard... and so on. And bugzilla is just one possibility. Since augusth 1st: I received around 12 familly mails, 62 pro-mails, 147 spam/pishing/bullshit mails Between all the debian mails list who exist, i receives also 168 emails. I have maybee read 20 of them, and deleted all the others... Too much informations, help, news, updates .... simply making those listing useless ! I have sent the following emails, received zero anwsers. With a "modern" system like a bugzilla/forum/tracker/else and their moder options, i can know how many peoples have read it ( 23 answer for 9876 readsfor example ) ... with the mailings list, how many people took relly the time to read it ( as i direct-delete most of he amils i receive ) ... with your "no" spirit, we would still have an horse and wagon like my old-old-old grandpa ! ________________________________ De : Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> Envoyé : jeudi 9 août 2018 19:47:24 À : debian-user@lists.debian.org Objet : Re: mailing list vs "the futur" On Thu, Aug 09, 2018 at 05:39:36PM +0000, tech wrote: > Should'nt be time to move away from an old mail-listing to something more modern like a bugzilla or else ??? No.
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| From | deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-08-10 01:30 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <wl2xr-1lX-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #198520 |
tech wrote: > as i dont want to troll the debian-list, and as i already received several > mails ( a first for me ) saying i am a dumbass, a stupid eager young .... > for the audience, i will stop the broadcast of bad words here. > > > i need to go to the post office to send a letter, so i will take my horse > ... as i leave approximatly at 39 km, iand my horse is running at 21 Km/h, > it will take for the round trip around 4 hours to come back ... you are free to move to a city where they drive electric cars. good luck You can't simply replace something working, while people are using it. It is enormous effort with consequences you can obviously not imagine. At the end nothing is for free, so who will pay for all the work? Or how will you motivate someone to move the mailing lists to something else, that even you can not guarantee that it will work? think of those regards
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| From | David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2018-08-10 03:10 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <wl46d-2kB-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #198518 |
On Thu 09 Aug 2018 at 18:05:41 (+0000), tech wrote: > > ... and why not ? > > > As an example, with a bugzilla, you dont have to dig in n*thousands of "unread" mails,. You can organized, have a clear view with a dashboard... and so on. > > And bugzilla is just one possibility. > > > Since augusth 1st: > > I received around 12 familly mails, 62 pro-mails, 147 spam/pishing/bullshit mails > > Between all the debian mails list who exist, i receives also 168 emails. > > I have maybee read 20 of them, and deleted all the others... > > > Too much informations, help, news, updates .... simply making those listing useless ! > > > I have sent the following emails, received zero anwsers. With a "modern" system like a bugzilla/forum/tracker/else and their moder options, i can know how many peoples have read it ( 23 answer for 9876 readsfor example ) ... with the mailings list, how many people took relly the time to read it ( as i direct-delete most of he amils i receive ) ... > > > with your "no" spirit, we would still have an horse and wagon like my old-old-old grandpa ! You could consider unsubscribing from this mailing list with List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:debian-user-request@lists.debian.org?subject=unsubscribe> and, instead, reading the archives with <https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/recent> whose postings are usually not many minutes behind. Cheers, David.
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| From | Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> |
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| Date | 2018-08-10 12:30 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <wlcQ9-7vM-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #198518 |
On Thu, Aug 09, 2018 at 06:05:41PM +0000, tech wrote: > > ... and why not ? > > > As an example, with a bugzilla, you dont have to dig in n*thousands of "unread" mails,. You can organized, have a clear view with a dashboard... and so on. > > And bugzilla is just one possibility. Are you aware that bugs.debian.org exists already? > Since augusth 1st: > > I received around 12 familly mails, 62 pro-mails, 147 spam/pishing/bullshit mails > > Between all the debian mails list who exist, i receives also 168 emails. > > I have maybee read 20 of them, and deleted all the others... I get more mail than that before breakfast. If you've got the right tools, it's easy to deal with. 1. Spam filter. Spamassassin is good. If you can add greylisting to your mail server, you should try that, too. 2. Automatic mail folders. The only mail that ends up in your inbox should be mail that your ruleset is not certain about. Each mailing list should get its own folder. Maildrop is easy to learn. 3. Indexed mail searching. Whatever works with your preferred mail client. Have cron run a re-index every morning before you wake up. 4. Mail threading in your mail client. If it doesn't do threads properly, time to change clients. I like mutt. > I have sent the following emails, received zero anwsers. With a "modern" system like a bugzilla/forum/tracker/else and their moder options, i can know how many peoples have read it ( 23 answer for 9876 readsfor example ) ... with the mailings list, how many people took relly the time to read it ( as i direct-delete most of he amils i receive ) ... Who cares who read your mail? Only the answers are important. > with your "no" spirit, we would still have an horse and wagon like my old-old-old grandpa ! This isn't "No", this is "Why are you insisting on the superiority of a tack hammer in all circumstances when we have a variety of tools available? Including a torque-calibrated power driver that works much better on the bolts you are trying to hammer." -dsr-
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| From | Rich Kulawiec <rsk@gsp.org> |
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| Date | 2018-08-10 13:30 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <wldMd-83n-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #198544 |
On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 06:24:55AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > I get more mail than that before breakfast. If you've got the > right tools, it's easy to deal with. This is an excellent point. Many of the people who lodge complaints like the one that started this discussion thread have chosen very poor tools and thus have conflated the failings of those tools with some non-existent inherent problems with mailing lists. Serious email users should be using mutt, which is fast, compact, resistant to attack, and has an astonishing number of features. Those who receive large volumes of mail should be using procmail to pre-sort it, and they should be aware of RFC 2919 (and thus the existence of List-Id) as an excellent means for doing so. These two tools in combination make dealing with large amounts of traffic to large numbers of mailing lists quite easy. Furthermore, everyone using mailing lists should be maintaining their own archive, simply because there's no reason not to. The storage required is small by contemporary standards and doing so allows the use of local search tools (e.g., grepmail) which can invaluable in locating relevant messages. (Those who haven't been doing this can usually backfill by downloading the archives maintained by the site running the mailing list. in turn, everyone running a mailing list should take care to see that those archives are fully accessible, unredacted, and downloadable on demand.) ---rsk
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| From | Curt <curty@free.fr> |
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| Date | 2018-08-10 14:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <wlefg-8dt-9@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #198549 |
On 2018-08-10, Rich Kulawiec <rsk@gsp.org> wrote: > > Serious email users should be using mutt, which is fast, compact, > ... > Furthermore, everyone using mailing lists should be maintaining ... > maintained by the site running the mailing list. in turn, everyone > running a mailing list should take care to see that those archives > are fully accessible, unredacted, and downloadable on demand.) > ... Should should should. And furthermore, too. Crikey! Have any toothpaste recommendations for serious carnivores? I feel like ripping something apart with my teeth. -- You are an ugly little monster, you know, I shouted in my mind’s loudest voice – so loud it made my heart reverberate. Haruki Murakami, “The Little Green Monster”
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| From | Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> |
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| Date | 2018-08-10 14:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <wlefg-8dt-7@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #198549 |
Rich Kulawiec wrote: > On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 06:24:55AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: >> I get more mail than that before breakfast. If you've got the >> right tools, it's easy to deal with. > > This is an excellent point. Many of the people who lodge complaints > like the one that started this discussion thread have chosen very poor > tools and thus have conflated the failings of those tools with some > non-existent inherent problems with mailing lists. To expand on that with my own personal prejudice -- the people using these "sub-par" tools are also the ones who're the cause of some of the existent (modern?) problems with mailing lists. Namely: - HTML Messages - Not wrapping messages at ~80 characters - top posting > > Serious email users should be using mutt, which is fast, compact, > resistant to attack, and has an astonishing number of features. Guess I'm not a "serious" email user then. Half the time I'm still using Tbird. > Those who receive large volumes of mail should be using procmail > to pre-sort it, and they should be aware of RFC 2919 (and thus > the existence of List-Id) as an excellent means for doing so. > These two tools in combination make dealing with large amounts > of traffic to large numbers of mailing lists quite easy. Not familiar with procmail. A quick perusal of the manpage seems to indicate this is a local mail "processor" for sorting things, as opposed to say something on the mailserver itself? -- |_|O|_| Registered Linux user #585947 |_|_|O| Github: https://github.com/dpurgert |O|O|O| PGP: 05CA 9A50 3F2E 1335 4DC5 4AEE 8E11 DDF3 1279 A281
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| From | Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> |
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| Date | 2018-08-10 14:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <wleRX-dy-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #198558 |
On 10.08.18 11:46, Dan Purgert wrote: > Rich Kulawiec wrote: > To expand on that with my own personal prejudice -- the people using > these "sub-par" tools are also the ones who're the cause of some of the > existent (modern?) problems with mailing lists. > > Namely: > > - HTML Messages > - Not wrapping messages at ~80 characters > - top posting > It is easy to delete posts so egregiously presented that reading them is too much trouble. (When I return from a week out in the country, every month, there's usually over 1200 emails waiting - down to half that after procmail has done some weeding. So a post should also chop out all quoted text not explicitly related to the reply, if it is to be read in the time which can be given to it.) > > > > Serious email users should be using mutt, which is fast, compact, > > resistant to attack, and has an astonishing number of features. > > Guess I'm not a "serious" email user then. Half the time I'm still > using Tbird. Having moved to mutt between 15 & 20 years ago, I've found it powerful and highly configurable. It'll see me out. > > Those who receive large volumes of mail should be using procmail > > to pre-sort it, and they should be aware of RFC 2919 (and thus > > the existence of List-Id) as an excellent means for doing so. > > These two tools in combination make dealing with large amounts > > of traffic to large numbers of mailing lists quite easy. And then with the list mailboxes arranged in order of interest in "mailboxes" line(s) in ~/.muttrc, they are presented in priority order. If domestic management, kids, or walking the dog intrude, then it's automatically the less important emails which must wait for another day. > Not familiar with procmail. A quick perusal of the manpage seems to > indicate this is a local mail "processor" for sorting things, as opposed > to say something on the mailserver itself? Yup. Details on how to direct its filtering/distribution are in the procmailrc manpage. Its development stabilised some time ago, and those of us who use it are very content with that. Erik
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| From | Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> |
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| Date | 2018-08-10 15:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <wlfbj-jT-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #198561 |
On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 10:29:53PM +1000, Erik Christiansen wrote: >Yup. Details on how to direct its filtering/distribution are in the >procmailrc manpage. Its development stabilised some time ago, and those >of us who use it are very content with that. I would not recommend procmail for new deployments. Its configuration syntax is obscure, it's no longer maintained, and there are better options available. maildrop is a good choice, with a very simple filtering syntax. sieve is another option that's a bit more complex but capable of being managed via a gui in a mail client. Mike Stone
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| From | Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> |
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| Date | 2018-08-10 15:10 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <wlfl0-Ck-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #198561 |
Erik Christiansen wrote: > On 10.08.18 11:46, Dan Purgert wrote: >> Rich Kulawiec wrote: >> To expand on that with my own personal prejudice -- the people using >> these "sub-par" tools are also the ones who're the cause of some of the >> existent (modern?) problems with mailing lists. >> >> Namely: >> >> - HTML Messages >> - Not wrapping messages at ~80 characters >> - top posting >> > > It is easy to delete posts so egregiously presented that reading them is > too much trouble. (When I return from a week out in the country, every > month, there's usually over 1200 emails waiting - down to half that after > procmail has done some weeding. So a post should also chop out all > quoted text not explicitly related to the reply, if it is to be read in > the time which can be given to it.) Yeah, and if we all do that, the people who don't know any better don't get any help. :) Not that I don't delete (or otherwise outright ignore) the exceptionally bad mails. >> Guess I'm not a "serious" email user then. Half the time I'm still >> using Tbird. > > Having moved to mutt between 15 & 20 years ago, I've found it powerful > and highly configurable. It'll see me out. I have it for my "main" email account - but still use tbird for alternate accounts. It's just "easier" to see all the mail there. That being said, I have taken steps to make tbird behave properly. >> Not familiar with procmail. A quick perusal of the manpage seems to >> indicate this is a local mail "processor" for sorting things, as opposed >> to say something on the mailserver itself? > > Yup. Details on how to direct its filtering/distribution are in the > procmailrc manpage. Its development stabilised some time ago, and those > of us who use it are very content with that. So, if I'm understanding you correctly, it'd end up doing the same thing as sieve is already doing on the mailserver (or perhaps a secondary pass for things sieve missed). -- |_|O|_| Registered Linux user #585947 |_|_|O| Github: https://github.com/dpurgert |O|O|O| PGP: 05CA 9A50 3F2E 1335 4DC5 4AEE 8E11 DDF3 1279 A281
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| From | Rich Kulawiec <rsk@gsp.org> |
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| Date | 2018-08-10 14:50 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <wlf1D-gR-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #198558 |
On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 11:46:12AM -0000, Dan Purgert wrote:
> Not familiar with procmail. A quick perusal of the manpage seems to
> indicate this is a local mail "processor" for sorting things, as opposed
> to say something on the mailserver itself?
Correct. Procmail uses a set of rules to decide what to go with messages
presented to it; those rules are usually based on the contents of message
headers, but don't have to be. For example, for this mailing list:
:0:
* ^X-Mailing-List:.*<debian-user@lists.debian.org>
/home/rsk/linux/debian-user
Translating, this means that any message which has the specified header
will be appended to the file named in the last line. (It would be nice
if the debian lists complied with RFC 2919 by using List-Id, but at least
this header works and is consistent throughout.) The small regexp in
there is present because the functional part of the header is the text
in angle brackets; any text preceding it is for human consumption,
and may change (or not be present at all).
A typical usage pattern for procmail might be something like this:
mail server -> fetchmail -> procmail -> mail client
In other words, a program like fetchmail is used to retrieve mail
(via POP or IMAP) from a mail server. Fetchmail hands off each message
to procmail. Procmail decides what to do with each message, which usually
means filing it. [1] The user can then read each mailing list by pointing
their mail client at it. This also accumulates a per-mailing list
archive (in mbox format), which is useful.
This is a highly scalable, very robust setup for anyone who has to
deal with lots of mailing lists or with correspondence involving diverse
groups of people. It scales to thousands of rules (I have 3000+ as
of this morning), it executes quickly, and because procmail is careful
to Do The Right Thing even under adverse circumstances, it's rather
tolerant of configuration errors. Happily, most mailing lists now
support RFC 2919 (or at least something functionally equivalent,
as we see here) so it's not often necessary to craft procmail rules
based on other headers.
---rsk
[1] Although it could also mean forwarding it, duplicating it, discarding
it, etc. For example, there exists a mailing list called "outages", which
is used to announce and track outages of networks and other operations
of interest. If you're subscribed to outages and have a particular
interest in certain ASNs or operations, you can easily craft a procmail
ruleset specific to those that (a) files a copy of the message as above
and (b) upon a relevant Subject-line match, submits a duplicate copy of
the message to an internal ticketing system so that it becomes visible
to operations staff, and so that it can be tracked in the same way as
other trouble reports.
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| From | Dave Sherohman <dave@sherohman.org> |
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| Date | 2018-08-10 15:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <wlfbj-jT-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #198562 |
On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 08:29:34AM -0400, Rich Kulawiec wrote: > Correct. Procmail uses a set of rules to decide what to go with messages > presented to it; those rules are usually based on the contents of message > headers, but don't have to be. For example, for this mailing list: > > :0: > * ^X-Mailing-List:.*<debian-user@lists.debian.org> > /home/rsk/linux/debian-user > > Translating, this means that any message which has the specified header > will be appended to the file named in the last line. I used to use procmail a couple decades ago, then I switched to Debian, and Debian installed exim by default, and I started using exim to sort my mail instead. My corresponding rule is: if $h_X-Mailing-List: contains "debian-" then save $home/Mail/deb/ finish endif No translation required. (And I prefer a single mailbox for all my debian lists, which is why I just match on "debian-" instead of the full name/address of the list.) -- Dave Sherohman
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| From | Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> |
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| Date | 2018-08-10 16:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <wlgqK-1df-7@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #198564 |
On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 07:55:00AM -0500, Dave Sherohman wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 08:29:34AM -0400, Rich Kulawiec wrote:
> > Correct. Procmail uses a set of rules to decide what to go with messages
> > presented to it; those rules are usually based on the contents of message
> > headers, but don't have to be. For example, for this mailing list:
> >
> > :0:
> > * ^X-Mailing-List:.*<debian-user@lists.debian.org>
> > /home/rsk/linux/debian-user
> >
> > Translating, this means that any message which has the specified header
> > will be appended to the file named in the last line.
>
> I used to use procmail a couple decades ago, then I switched to Debian,
> and Debian installed exim by default, and I started using exim to sort
> my mail instead. My corresponding rule is:
>
> if $h_X-Mailing-List: contains "debian-" then
> save $home/Mail/deb/
> finish
> endif
And maildrop says:
if (/^X-Mailing-List:.*debian-/:h)
to $home/Mail/deb/
although I would recommend sorting each Debian list to a
different folder.
-dsr-
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| From | The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> |
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| Date | 2018-08-10 15:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <wlfbj-jT-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #198562 |
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On 2018-08-10 at 08:29, Rich Kulawiec wrote: > On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 11:46:12AM -0000, Dan Purgert wrote: > >> Not familiar with procmail. A quick perusal of the manpage seems >> to indicate this is a local mail "processor" for sorting things, as >> opposed to say something on the mailserver itself? > > Correct. Procmail uses a set of rules to decide what to go with messages > presented to it; those rules are usually based on the contents of message > headers, but don't have to be. For example, for this mailing list: > > :0: > * ^X-Mailing-List:.*<debian-user@lists.debian.org> > /home/rsk/linux/debian-user > > Translating, this means that any message which has the specified header > will be appended to the file named in the last line. (It would be nice > if the debian lists complied with RFC 2919 by using List-Id, but at least > this header works and is consistent throughout.) Hm? The Debian mailing lists I'm on *do* have List-Id; that's how I filter them into folders on my end, although I do it via Thunderbird's built-in filtering mechanism rather than via procmail. -- The Wanderer The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw
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| From | cyaiplexys <cyaiplexys@sitesplace.net> |
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| Date | 2018-08-10 18:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <wlhZw-1YB-7@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #198565 |
On 08/10/2018 08:58 AM, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2018-08-10 at 08:29, Rich Kulawiec wrote: > >> On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 11:46:12AM -0000, Dan Purgert wrote: >> >>> Not familiar with procmail. A quick perusal of the manpage seems >>> to indicate this is a local mail "processor" for sorting things, as >>> opposed to say something on the mailserver itself? >> >> Correct. Procmail uses a set of rules to decide what to go with messages >> presented to it; those rules are usually based on the contents of message >> headers, but don't have to be. For example, for this mailing list: >> >> :0: >> * ^X-Mailing-List:.*<debian-user@lists.debian.org> >> /home/rsk/linux/debian-user >> >> Translating, this means that any message which has the specified header >> will be appended to the file named in the last line. (It would be nice >> if the debian lists complied with RFC 2919 by using List-Id, but at least >> this header works and is consistent throughout.) > > Hm? The Debian mailing lists I'm on *do* have List-Id; that's how I > filter them into folders on my end, although I do it via Thunderbird's > built-in filtering mechanism rather than via procmail. I use Thunderbird as well. Only I have set up a separate email account special for getting mail list messages, ads, etc. What I do then is set that account up to use collapsable threads. I delete all threads I don't think I'd be interested in and then keep the threads I think I want to read. I'm only on a couple Debian lists though (Security announcements being one, and this one and I think News). This Users one has the most activity but it really isn't too much trouble for me. I also set up my email check to once every 720 minutes (12 hours). This way I'm not getting popups every 10 minutes that there's new messages while I'm trying to work or watch a tutorial video full screen or something.
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| From | Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> |
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| Date | 2018-08-10 15:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <wlfuF-Fr-7@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #198562 |
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On Fri, 10 Aug 2018 08:29:34 -0400
Rich Kulawiec <rsk@gsp.org> wrote:
Hello Rich,
>will be appended to the file named in the last line. (It would be nice
>if the debian lists complied with RFC 2919 by using List-Id, but at
>least
All the Debian lists I'm subbed to have a List-Id header. Maybe they
didn't in the past, IDK....
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| From | Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> |
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| Date | 2018-08-10 15:30 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <wlfEl-Iw-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #198562 |
Rich Kulawiec wrote: > On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 11:46:12AM -0000, Dan Purgert wrote: >> Not familiar with procmail. A quick perusal of the manpage seems to >> indicate this is a local mail "processor" for sorting things, as opposed >> to say something on the mailserver itself? > > Correct. Procmail uses a set of rules to decide what to go with messages > presented to it; those rules are usually based on the contents of message > headers, but don't have to be. [...] > Thanks for the explanation. At some point I may have to look into it in more detail -- although since I run my MTA (well, at least for the mail that matters) that does sorting serverside, might not do me any good. -- |_|O|_| Registered Linux user #585947 |_|_|O| Github: https://github.com/dpurgert |O|O|O| PGP: 05CA 9A50 3F2E 1335 4DC5 4AEE 8E11 DDF3 1279 A281
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