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  debian-user over NNTP: linux.debian.user (was mailing list vs "the futur") "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2018-08-10 14:50 +0200
    Re: debian-user over NNTP: linux.debian.user (was mailing list vs  "the futur") Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-10 15:20 +0200
      Re: debian-user over NNTP: linux.debian.user (was mailing list vs "the futur") soyeomul@doraji.xyz (Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙)) - 2018-08-10 15:30 +0200
        Re: debian-user over NNTP: linux.debian.user (was mailing list vs  "the futur") Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-10 16:10 +0200
          Re: debian-user over NNTP: linux.debian.user (was mailing list vs  "the futur") songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2018-08-11 17:10 +0200

#198563 — debian-user over NNTP: linux.debian.user (was mailing list vs "the futur")

Hi,

I really really want to abstain from that thread. So a new one:

Gene Heskett wrotei in 'mailing list vs "the futur"':
> [...] NNTP [...]
> To fully support it needs 2000 times the bandwidth of an email server.

But not because of the transport protocoli or message format. NNTP belongs
to the same breed of reasonably concise protocols as the mail protocols
POP3 and SMTP. The message formats too are very similar: A list of header
lines and a message body.

Of course, if it is about newsgroups with videos or many large pictures,
you get clients sucking data for hours. But a news server which imposes
the same restrictions as most mailing list servers would not cause
more traffic or storage need.

While googling for debian-user as newsgroup i found
  https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/10/msg00735.html
where Miles Fidelman points to
  nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.user
i.e. newsgroup

  linux.debian.user

which should be on most news servers (because it is of modest size).
Newest message on the server which i can use:

  638790   <wleoV-8vW-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
 from   : Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
 date   : Fri, 10 Aug 2018 14:10:01 +0200
 size   : 2724 bytes in 60 lines
 subject: Re: mailing list vs "the futur"

My mail box seems to be about half an hour ahead of the news server.


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

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#198568 — Re: debian-user over NNTP: linux.debian.user (was mailing list vs "the futur")

Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I really really want to abstain from that thread. So a new one:
>
> Gene Heskett wrotei in 'mailing list vs "the futur"':
>> [...] NNTP [...]
>> To fully support it needs 2000 times the bandwidth of an email server.
>
> But not because of the transport protocoli or message format. NNTP belongs
> to the same breed of reasonably concise protocols as the mail protocols
> POP3 and SMTP. The message formats too are very similar: A list of header
> lines and a message body.
>
> [...]
>
>   linux.debian.user
>
> which should be on most news servers (because it is of modest size).

Yeah, well, least it's on eternal-september (my NNTP provider). I doubt
they're the most active, but the service is free, and good enough for my
tastes.


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#198572

Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> writes:

> Thomas Schmitt wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I really really want to abstain from that thread. So a new one:
>>
>> Gene Heskett wrotei in 'mailing list vs "the futur"':
>>> [...] NNTP [...]
>>> To fully support it needs 2000 times the bandwidth of an email server.
>>
>> But not because of the transport protocoli or message format. NNTP belongs
>> to the same breed of reasonably concise protocols as the mail protocols
>> POP3 and SMTP. The message formats too are very similar: A list of header
>> lines and a message body.
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>   linux.debian.user
>>
>> which should be on most news servers (because it is of modest size).
>
> Yeah, well, least it's on eternal-september (my NNTP provider). I doubt
> they're the most active, but the service is free, and good enough for my
> tastes.

Also i like NNTP service! For now i'm on Gmane, thanks^^^

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#198575 — Re: debian-user over NNTP: linux.debian.user (was mailing list vs "the futur")

Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙) wrote:
> Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> writes:
>> Yeah, well, least it's on eternal-september (my NNTP provider). I doubt
>> they're the most active, but the service is free, and good enough for my
>> tastes.
>
> Also i like NNTP service! For now i'm on Gmane, thanks^^^

Now that you meantion it, I might've needed to go through gmane for the
debian lists.


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#198625 — Re: debian-user over NNTP: linux.debian.user (was mailing list vs "the futur")

Dan Purgert wrote:
> Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙) wrote:
>> Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> writes:
>>> Yeah, well, least it's on eternal-september (my NNTP provider). I doubt
>>> they're the most active, but the service is free, and good enough for my
>>> tastes.

  yes!  i'm glad there are people who are willing to 
do such things.


>> Also i like NNTP service! For now i'm on Gmane, thanks^^^
>
> Now that you meantion it, I might've needed to go through gmane for the
> debian lists.

  yes, that's what i do for some, not sure what
others are available if i were to go through
eternal-september (which is for the more general
newsgroups i read/write to).


  songbird

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