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Re: USB2 or 3 WiFi dual band adapters

Started byJoel Wirāmu Pauling <joel@aenertia.net>
First post2018-08-12 04:00 +0200
Last post2018-08-13 10:40 +0200
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  Re: USB2 or 3 WiFi dual band adapters Joel Wirāmu Pauling <joel@aenertia.net> - 2018-08-12 04:00 +0200
    Re: USB2 or 3 WiFi dual band adapters Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> - 2018-08-12 05:20 +0200
      Re: USB2 or 3 WiFi dual band adapters Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> - 2018-08-14 02:20 +0200
        Re: USB2 or 3 WiFi dual band adapters Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> - 2018-08-15 04:40 +0200
          Re: USB2 or 3 WiFi dual band adapters "Miguel A. Vallejo" <ea4eoz@gmail.com> - 2018-08-15 20:00 +0200
            Re: USB2 or 3 WiFi dual band adapters Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> - 2018-08-16 03:40 +0200
    Re: USB2 or 3 WiFi dual band adapters Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-08-12 11:00 +0200
      Re: USB2 or 3 WiFi dual band adapters Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> - 2018-08-13 02:00 +0200
        Re: USB2 or 3 WiFi dual band adapters Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-08-13 10:40 +0200

#198649 — Re: USB2 or 3 WiFi dual band adapters

FromJoel Wirāmu Pauling <joel@aenertia.net>
Date2018-08-12 04:00 +0200
SubjectRe: USB2 or 3 WiFi dual band adapters
Message-ID<wlNPI-3OP-5@gated-at.bofh.it>

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Basically find one that uses the ath9k Chipset. They are easily the best
supported Wifi Interface.

If you need Wireless AC then ath10k based products are useable too.

The Intel ranges are OK as clients, but are not really very Opensource.
Ath9k has the best Fully Opensource impementation out of any of the
Wireless cards.

https://wikidevi.com/wiki/Ath9k

On 9 August 2018 at 03:12, tony mollica <tmollica@silcom.com> wrote:

> Hello.
>
> I need to find a good, reliable WiFi adapter.  I have an Alfa AWUS036ACH
> using a RTL8812au chip
> and there is support but it's unreliable.  Connects sometimes, mostly
> not.  My older adapters work
> but they're slow but maybe that's the compromise I need to resolve.
>
> What's being used reliably?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tony
>

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#198651

FromBen Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz>
Date2018-08-12 05:20 +0200
Message-ID<wlP57-4OI-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#198649
On 12/08/18 13:51, Joel Wirāmu Pauling wrote:
> On 9 August 2018 at 03:12, tony mollica <tmollica@silcom.com> wrote:
>> Hello.
>> I need to find a good, reliable WiFi adapter.  I have an Alfa AWUS036ACH
>> using a RTL8812au chip
>> and there is support but it's unreliable.  Connects sometimes, mostly
>> not.  My older adapters work
>> but they're slow but maybe that's the compromise I need to resolve.
>> What's being used reliably?
>> Thanks,
>> Tony
[reordered by the posting order secret police]
 > Basically find one that uses the ath9k Chipset. They are easily the best
 > supported Wifi Interface.
 > If you need Wireless AC then ath10k based products are useable too.
 > The Intel ranges are OK as clients, but are not really very Opensource.
 > Ath9k has the best Fully Opensource impementation out of any of the
 > Wireless cards.
 > https://wikidevi.com/wiki/Ath9k

+1 for ath9k. I am using a TP-Link TL-WN722N (ath9k_htc). I have two. 
Inexpensive, high-gain antenna, quite reliable despite regular hard work.

Inadvertent enabling of QoS while idle breaks connectivity in a small 
range of kernel versions:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=891060
Found in versions linux/4.15.4-1, linux/4.15.11-1, linux/4.14.17-1
Fixed in versions linux/4.16.5-1, linux/4.15.17-1

Kind regards,

-- 
Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz>
Director
Transient Software Limited <https://transient.nz/>
New Zealand

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#198737

FromBen Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz>
Date2018-08-14 02:20 +0200
Message-ID<wmve1-4du-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#198651
On 12/08/18 15:12, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote:
> I am using a TP-Link TL-WN722N (ath9k_htc). I have two. Inexpensive, 
> high-gain antenna, quite reliable despite regular hard work.

Since my broadband upgrade from ADSL to gigabit fibre three days ago, I 
can put greater load on my WiFi, and my TL-WN722N hangs under this heavy 
load. Downloads or uploads of 3-4 GB files succeed only about a third of 
the time. Hangs require USB disconnection and reconnection. I must 
withdraw my recommendation.

Kind regards,

-- 
Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz>
Director
Transient Software Limited <https://transient.nz/>
New Zealand

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#198795

FromBen Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz>
Date2018-08-15 04:40 +0200
Message-ID<wmTT3-1Wh-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#198737
On 14/08/18 12:14, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote:
> On 12/08/18 15:12, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote:
>> I am using a TP-Link TL-WN722N (ath9k_htc). I have two. Inexpensive, 
>> high-gain antenna, quite reliable despite regular hard work.
> Since my broadband upgrade from ADSL to gigabit fibre three days ago, I 
> can put greater load on my WiFi, and my TL-WN722N hangs under this heavy 
> load. Downloads or uploads of 3-4 GB files succeed only about a third of 
> the time. Hangs require USB disconnection and reconnection. I must 
> withdraw my recommendation.

Since upgrading from linux-image-4.17.0-1-amd64 4.17.8-1 to 
linux-image-4.17.0-2-amd64 4.17.14-1 this morning, I have given my 
TL-WN722N a workout, with one 3.0 GB upload and six 4.0 GB downloads 
with the same servers as before, all successful, with no hangs. Perhaps 
the problems I encountered were related to interference that has now 
gone away? Or have been fixed by kernel driver improvements? Anyway, my 
TL-WN722N now seems quite stable under load.

Kind regards,

-- 
Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz>
Director
Transient Software Limited <https://transient.nz/>
New Zealand

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#198829

From"Miguel A. Vallejo" <ea4eoz@gmail.com>
Date2018-08-15 20:00 +0200
Message-ID<wn8fo-1T2-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#198795
My experience is similar.

Currently I'm using Linksys WUSB600N v2 USB dongles based on Ralink
RT3572 and they work just fine. They can handle my 100 MBit conection
using 2x2 N mode in 5 GHz band without too much problems.

But I have also a Linksys WUSB6300 802.11ac dongle, based on
RTL8812AU. Although I made it to work, all drivers/modules I tried
seems to be in very early stage to my taste, with many missing
functions: a lot of missing information while running monitoring
programs (like wavemon).

So, I'm also looking for a Linux friendly 802.11ac USB dongle.

Greetings

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#198837

FromBen Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz>
Date2018-08-16 03:40 +0200
Message-ID<wnfqx-65W-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#198829
On 16/08/18 05:52, Miguel A. Vallejo wrote:
> So, I'm also looking for a Linux friendly 802.11ac USB dongle.

And I should have mentioned that the TL-WN722N is a single band (2.4 
GHz) b/g/n dongle, *not* dual band.

-- 
Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz>
Director
Transient Software Limited <https://transient.nz/>
New Zealand

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#198657

FromCurt <curty@free.fr>
Date2018-08-12 11:00 +0200
Message-ID<wlUo9-7Me-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#198649
On 2018-08-12, Joel Wirāmu Pauling <joel@aenertia.net> wrote:
>
> Basically find one that uses the ath9k Chipset. They are easily the best
> supported Wifi Interface.
>
> If you need Wireless AC then ath10k based products are useable too.
>
> The Intel ranges are OK as clients, but are not really very Opensource.
> Ath9k has the best Fully Opensource impementation out of any of the
> Wireless cards.
>
> https://wikidevi.com/wiki/Ath9k
>

I didn't see any usb dongles listed on that page.

Maybe here below (but maybe out of date):

https://wikidevi.com/wiki/Atheros_AR9271#Linux_support

I looked at the TP-LINK TL-WN722N on Amazon.fr suggested by another
poster (whom I think was Ben if memory serves, which is increasingly not
exactly the case), but had trouble understanding which of the multiple
versions of the device contained the desired chipset (some commenters
claimed the device they bought did not work out of the box with their
Linux distribution). I guess my question would be (if I was in the
business of asking questions): how can you be assured when purchasing a
wireless usb dongle what chipset is lodged within the device?

-- 
"She was a blank wall, fresh painted." 
Louise Erdrich, Love Medicine

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#198683

FromBen Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz>
Date2018-08-13 02:00 +0200
Message-ID<wm8r7-7z3-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#198657
On 12/08/18 20:55, Curt wrote:
> I looked at the TP-LINK TL-WN722N on Amazon.fr suggested by another
> poster (whom I think was Ben if memory serves, which is increasingly not
> exactly the case), but had trouble understanding which of the multiple
> versions of the device contained the desired chipset (some commenters
> claimed the device they bought did not work out of the box with their
> Linux distribution). I guess my question would be (if I was in the
> business of asking questions): how can you be assured when purchasing a
> wireless usb dongle what chipset is lodged within the device?

You must check the full version as the v2 has a different chipset (see 
complaints in the Amazon comments). The original is Atheros, the v2 is 
Realtek:

Atheros: https://wikidevi.com/wiki/TP-LINK_TL-WN722N
Realtek: https://wikidevi.com/wiki/TP-LINK_TL-WN722N_v2

I suggest contacting the vendor for confirmation.

Kind regards,

-- 
Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz>
Director
Transient Software Limited <https://transient.nz/>
New Zealand

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#198685

FromCurt <curty@free.fr>
Date2018-08-13 10:40 +0200
Message-ID<wmgyl-40w-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#198683
On 2018-08-12, Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> wrote:
>
> You must check the full version as the v2 has a different chipset (see 
> complaints in the Amazon comments). The original is Atheros, the v2 is 
> Realtek:

But you cannot check the full version because the full version is not
specified, thus the complaints to which I alluded in the comment section
from various disappointed penguinites (and my quasi-rhetorical question).

> Atheros: https://wikidevi.com/wiki/TP-LINK_TL-WN722N
> Realtek: https://wikidevi.com/wiki/TP-LINK_TL-WN722N_v2
>
> I suggest contacting the vendor for confirmation.

Right. 

> Kind regards,
>


-- 
"She was a blank wall, fresh painted." 
Louise Erdrich, Love Medicine

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