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mailing list vs "the futur"

Started bytech <tech@rkn.ovh>
First post2018-08-09 19:40 +0200
Last post2018-08-11 11:00 +0200
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  mailing list vs "the futur" tech <tech@rkn.ovh> - 2018-08-09 19:40 +0200
    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-08-09 19:50 +0200
      RE: mailing list vs "the futur" tech <tech@rkn.ovh> - 2018-08-09 20:10 +0200
        RE: mailing list vs "the futur" tech <tech@rkn.ovh> - 2018-08-09 20:20 +0200
          RE: mailing list vs "the futur" deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2018-08-10 01:30 +0200
        Re: mailing list vs "the futur" David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-08-10 03:10 +0200
        Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2018-08-10 12:30 +0200
          Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Rich Kulawiec <rsk@gsp.org> - 2018-08-10 13:30 +0200
            Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-08-10 14:00 +0200
            Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-10 14:00 +0200
              Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> - 2018-08-10 14:40 +0200
                Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-10 15:00 +0200
                Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-10 15:10 +0200
              Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Rich Kulawiec <rsk@gsp.org> - 2018-08-10 14:50 +0200
                Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dave Sherohman <dave@sherohman.org> - 2018-08-10 15:00 +0200
                  Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2018-08-10 16:20 +0200
                Re: mailing list vs "the futur" The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2018-08-10 15:00 +0200
                  Re: mailing list vs "the futur" cyaiplexys <cyaiplexys@sitesplace.net> - 2018-08-10 18:00 +0200
                Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2018-08-10 15:20 +0200
                Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-10 15:30 +0200
                  Re: mailing list vs "the futur" "Michelle Konzack" <linux4michelle@tamay-dogan.net> - 2018-08-11 11:00 +0200
                    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-12 14:30 +0200
                Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-10 15:30 +0200
              Re: mailing list vs "the futur" "Michelle Konzack" <linux4michelle@tamay-dogan.net> - 2018-08-11 10:40 +0200
              Re: Re: mailing list vs "the futur" dekkzz78@gmail.com - 2018-08-11 11:10 +0200
            Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> - 2018-08-12 15:50 +0200
          Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-10 13:50 +0200
            Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2018-08-10 16:20 +0200
            Re: mailing list vs "the futur" rhkramer@gmail.com - 2018-08-23 22:10 +0200
              Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2018-08-23 22:30 +0200
                Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 03:50 +0200
      Re: mailing list vs "the futur" "James H. H. Lampert" <jamesl@touchtonecorp.com> - 2018-08-09 21:30 +0200
      Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-10 12:30 +0200
      Re: mailing list vs "the futur" rhkramer@gmail.com - 2018-08-23 21:30 +0200
        Re: mailing list vs "the futur" "Martin McCormick" <martin.m@suddenlink.net> - 2018-08-23 23:00 +0200
        Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Piotr Martyniuk <zaxonxp45@gmail.com> - 2018-08-24 08:10 +0200
          Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> - 2018-08-24 08:30 +0200
            Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Piotr Martyniuk <zaxonxp45@gmail.com> - 2018-08-24 09:00 +0200
              Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> - 2018-08-24 11:50 +0200
          Re: mailing list vs "the futur" "Michelle Konzack" <linux4michelle@tamay-dogan.net> - 2018-08-24 21:00 +0200
            Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2018-08-24 21:20 +0200
              Re: mailing list vs "the futur" The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2018-08-24 22:40 +0200
                Re: mailing list vs "the futur" John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-24 23:50 +0200
                  Re: mailing list vs "the futur" David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-08-25 01:10 +0200
                    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-25 02:20 +0200
                      Re: mailing list vs "the futur" David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-08-25 21:10 +0200
                        Re: mailing list vs "the futur" John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-25 21:30 +0200
                          Re: mailing list vs "the futur" David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-08-27 17:20 +0200
                            Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-27 17:40 +0200
                              Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2018-08-27 18:30 +0200
                                Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-27 22:20 +0200
                                  Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2018-08-27 22:30 +0200
                                  Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Mark Rousell <mark.rousell@signal100.com> - 2018-08-28 10:20 +0200
                                    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-28 13:50 +0200
                                      Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Mark Rousell <mark.rousell@signal100.com> - 2018-08-28 15:10 +0200
                                        Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-28 15:50 +0200
                                          Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-28 16:40 +0200
                                            Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-28 20:00 +0200
                                        Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-28 16:30 +0200
                                          Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-28 16:30 +0200
                                            Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-28 16:40 +0200
                                              Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-28 17:10 +0200
                                          Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Mark Rousell <mark.rousell@signal100.com> - 2018-08-28 17:50 +0200
                                            Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-28 21:10 +0200
                                              Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-29 00:40 +0200
                                                Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Mark Rousell <mark.rousell@signal100.com> - 2018-08-29 01:20 +0200
                                                  Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-29 03:10 +0200
                                                    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-29 03:40 +0200
                                                    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-29 09:20 +0200
                                                      Re: mailing list vs "the futur" John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-29 17:40 +0200
                                                        Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-08-29 17:50 +0200
                                                          Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-29 18:10 +0200
                                                            Re: mailing list vs "the futur" John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-29 19:30 +0200
                                                              Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-08-29 19:40 +0200
                                                                Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-30 12:00 +0200
                                                                  Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-08-30 14:50 +0200
                                                                    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-30 15:50 +0200
                                                                      Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-08-30 21:30 +0200
                                                                        Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-31 12:00 +0200
                                                                      Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dave Sherohman <dave@sherohman.org> - 2018-09-04 12:30 +0200
                                                                        Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-09-04 14:00 +0200
                                                                          Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-09-04 15:30 +0200
                                                                            Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-09-04 17:20 +0200
                                                                              Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-09-04 18:10 +0200
                                                                                Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-09-04 18:30 +0200
                                                                                  Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-09-04 19:50 +0200
                                                                                    [Off-topic] Was: mailing list vs "the futur" John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-04 20:20 +0200
                                                                                      Re: [Off-topic] Was: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-09-04 20:30 +0200
                                                                                    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Liam O'Toole <liam.p.otoole@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 03:10 +0200
                                                                                      Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-09-05 04:10 +0200
                                                                                        Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2018-09-05 09:50 +0200
                                                                                Re: mailing list vs "the futur" John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-04 20:00 +0200
                                                                                  Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-09-04 20:30 +0200
                                                                                    [Off-topic] Was: mailing list vs "the futur" John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-04 20:50 +0200
                                                                                      Re: [Off-topic] Was: mailing list vs "the futur" Default User <hunguponcontent@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 21:20 +0200
                                                                                        Re: [Off-topic] Was: mailing list vs "the futur" Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2018-09-04 21:50 +0200
                                                                          Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2018-09-04 17:20 +0200
                                                                        Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-09-04 15:20 +0200
                                                                          Re: mailing list vs "the futur" "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2018-09-04 16:00 +0200
                                                            Re: mailing list vs "the futur" mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 12:00 +0200
                                                              Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-09-01 12:40 +0200
                                                          Re: mailing list vs "the futur" John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-29 18:10 +0200
                                                        Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2018-08-29 19:00 +0200
                                              Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2018-08-29 02:40 +0200
                                                Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-29 09:40 +0200
                                                  Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-29 12:00 +0200
                                                    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-29 12:10 +0200
                                                      Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-29 12:20 +0200
                                                    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-29 12:20 +0200
                                                      Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-29 12:50 +0200
                                                        Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-29 13:10 +0200
                                                          Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-29 14:40 +0200
                                                            Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-29 14:40 +0200
                                                              Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-29 15:00 +0200
                                                            Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-29 17:00 +0200
                                                              Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-29 18:10 +0200
                                                                Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-29 21:20 +0200
                                                                  Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-30 12:10 +0200
                                                                    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-30 14:20 +0200
                                                      Re: mailing list vs "the futur" John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-29 17:40 +0200
                                                        Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-29 21:10 +0200
                                                          Re: mailing list vs "the futur" John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-30 00:50 +0200
                                                          Re: mailing list vs "the futur" David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-08-30 01:00 +0200
                                                      Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Bob Bernstein <poobah@ruptured-duck.com> - 2018-09-01 20:10 +0200
                                                        Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-09-01 22:50 +0200
                                                          Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Bob Bernstein <poobah@ruptured-duck.com> - 2018-09-01 23:30 +0200
                                                            Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-09-02 10:00 +0200
                                                              Re: mailing list vs "the futur" John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-02 15:00 +0200
                                                                Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-09-02 15:20 +0200
                                                                  Re: mailing list vs "the futur" John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-09-02 16:10 +0200
                                                                    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2018-09-02 16:40 +0200
                                                                      Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2018-09-02 17:20 +0200
                                                                        Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-09-02 18:20 +0200
                                                                      Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-09-02 17:20 +0200
                                                                    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-09-02 18:00 +0200
                                                                    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-09-02 18:00 +0200
                                                                      Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Bob Bernstein <poobah@ruptured-duck.com> - 2018-09-03 07:30 +0200
                                                                        Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> - 2018-09-03 08:10 +0200
                                                                      Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2018-09-03 07:40 +0200
                                                                        Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-09-03 13:00 +0200
                                                                          Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2018-09-03 15:50 +0200
                                                                            Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-09-03 16:30 +0200
                                                                    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2018-09-03 13:30 +0200
                                                    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-29 12:20 +0200
                                                    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2018-08-29 12:40 +0200
                                                    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 11:50 +0200
                                                      Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-09-01 16:00 +0200
                                                  Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-29 13:00 +0200
                                                    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-29 13:20 +0200
                                                    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-29 13:40 +0200
                                                      Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-08-29 14:00 +0200
                                                        Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-29 14:00 +0200
                                                          Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-08-29 14:10 +0200
                                                            Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-29 14:30 +0200
                                                            Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-29 14:30 +0200
                                                              Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-29 14:40 +0200
                                                              Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-08-29 14:50 +0200
                                                              Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-08-29 14:50 +0200
                                                                Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-29 15:30 +0200
                                                              Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-29 14:50 +0200
                                                              Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-29 14:50 +0200
                                  Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-28 14:00 +0200
                                Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-28 01:10 +0200
                                  Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-28 09:50 +0200
                                    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-28 13:20 +0200
                                      Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Mark Rousell <mark.rousell@signal100.com> - 2018-08-28 14:20 +0200
                                        Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-28 15:00 +0200
                                          Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Mark Rousell <mark.rousell@signal100.com> - 2018-08-28 16:00 +0200
                                            Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-28 16:30 +0200
                                              Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Mark Rousell <mark.rousell@signal100.com> - 2018-08-28 18:00 +0200
                                              Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Mark Rousell <mark.rousell@signal100.com> - 2018-08-28 18:10 +0200
                                                Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-28 19:50 +0200
                                                  Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2018-08-28 20:30 +0200
                                                    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Mark Rousell <mark.rousell@signal100.com> - 2018-08-28 20:40 +0200
                                                      Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Mark Rousell <mark.rousell@signal100.com> - 2018-08-28 20:50 +0200
                                                  Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Mark Rousell <mark.rousell@signal100.com> - 2018-08-28 20:30 +0200
                                                    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-28 22:30 +0200
                                            Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Mark Rousell <mark.rousell@signal100.com> - 2018-08-28 18:00 +0200
                                              Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-28 19:50 +0200
                                                Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2018-08-28 20:30 +0200
                                        Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Mark Rousell <mark.rousell@signal100.com> - 2018-08-28 16:10 +0200
                                  Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Mark Rousell <mark.rousell@signal100.com> - 2018-08-28 10:20 +0200
                              Re: mailing list vs "the futur" David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-08-27 19:10 +0200
                                Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-28 01:20 +0200
                                Re: mailing list vs "the futur" John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-28 05:50 +0200
                    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-08-25 12:20 +0200
                      Re: mailing list vs "the futur" John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-08-25 14:20 +0200
                        Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-08-25 15:30 +0200
        Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> - 2018-08-24 15:30 +0200
          Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-24 18:20 +0200
            Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-08-24 18:40 +0200
              Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2018-08-24 19:20 +0200
                Re: mailing list vs "the futur" "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2018-08-24 19:50 +0200
                Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2018-08-24 19:50 +0200
                  Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2018-08-24 20:10 +0200
                    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2018-08-24 20:30 +0200
                      Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2018-08-24 20:50 +0200
                      Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> - 2018-08-25 01:40 +0200
                      Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dave Sherohman <dave@sherohman.org> - 2018-08-27 10:20 +0200
                        Re: mailing list vs "the futur" rhkramer@gmail.com - 2018-08-27 13:50 +0200
                          Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-27 14:20 +0200
                          Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-27 16:00 +0200
                        Re: Re: mailing list vs "the futur" dekkzz78@gmail.com - 2018-08-27 16:20 +0200
                          Re: mailing list vs "the futur" rhkramer@gmail.com - 2018-08-27 17:30 +0200
                    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2018-08-25 10:00 +0200
                  Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> - 2018-08-25 02:50 +0200
    Re: mailing list is the future (corrected spelling mistakes) Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2018-08-09 20:10 +0200
    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2018-08-09 21:10 +0200
      Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> - 2018-08-12 16:00 +0200
    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Ben Finney <bignose@debian.org> - 2018-08-09 22:20 +0200
      Re: mailing list vs "the futur" "Michelle Konzack" <linux4michelle@tamay-dogan.net> - 2018-08-11 11:10 +0200
        Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> - 2018-08-12 16:10 +0200
    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Rich Kulawiec <rsk@gsp.org> - 2018-08-10 01:40 +0200
      Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Mark Rousell <mark.rousell@signal100.com> - 2018-08-11 00:00 +0200
      Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Rob van der Putten <rob@sput.nl> - 2018-08-11 11:50 +0200
      Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> - 2018-08-12 16:20 +0200
        Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2018-08-12 20:10 +0200
          Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-13 12:30 +0200
            Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> - 2018-08-13 16:00 +0200
        Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-13 12:30 +0200
    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2018-08-10 10:30 +0200
    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2018-08-10 12:00 +0200
      Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Shea Alterio <krusete@gmail.com> - 2018-08-10 18:50 +0200
    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-10 12:50 +0200
      Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2018-08-11 14:30 +0200
        Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-11 15:30 +0200
          Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-08-13 15:30 +0200
            Re: mailing list vs "the futur" <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-08-13 16:00 +0200
              Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> - 2018-08-13 16:20 +0200
    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" Mark Rousell <mark.rousell@signal100.com> - 2018-08-11 00:00 +0200
      Re: mailing list vs "the futur" arne <sp113438@telfort.nl> - 2018-08-11 00:50 +0200
    Re: mailing list vs "the futur" dekkzz78@gmail.com - 2018-08-11 11:00 +0200

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#198605

From"Michelle Konzack" <linux4michelle@tamay-dogan.net>
Date2018-08-11 11:00 +0200
Message-ID<wlxUC-2VR-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#198571
Am DATE hackte Dan Purgert in die Tasten:
> Thanks for the explanation.  At some point I may have to look into it
> in
> more detail -- although since I run my MTA (well, at least for the
> mail
> that matters) that does sorting serverside, might not do me any good.

I would say, your MTA has nothing to do with it.

If you run your own Server and your MTA receive a new message,
let it point to procmail and sort it. I assum, you access the
server trough IMAP so the next time you connect with your
prefered MUA or Squirrelmail you will see the mesages nicely
sorted.

I get today per day arround 700 messages (10 years ago it was
more then 2500 per day) and i have go only in mailfolders I am
interested in.

My IMAP structure is

INBOX
     .BTS_debian
                .<source_package>
     .ML_debian
               .arm
               .embedded
               .security
               .user
               .user-german
     .ML_mail
             .courier-users@lists_sourceforge_net
             .mutt-announce@mutt_org
             .mutt-users@mutt_org
             .squirrelmail-users@lists_sourceforge_net
     .ML_misc
             .bind-users@lists_isc_org
     .ML_pgsql
              .general
     .ML_php
            .general
     .ML_xwindow
                .fvwm@fvwm_org
                .xorg@lists_freedesktop_org
...

Mutt and Squirrelmail marke the folders where are new messages.
and if I am only interested in mutt, I have not to search in a
mailbox with several 100 (or several 1000 after holliday)
unrelated messages.

I hope this give you a clue.

No chance for Webbased Forum especially with all this trackers in it!

-- 
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GNU/Linux Developer     00372-54541400

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#198658

FromDan Purgert <dan@djph.net>
Date2018-08-12 14:30 +0200
Message-ID<wlXFn-1mU-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#198605
Michelle Konzack wrote:
> Am DATE hackte Dan Purgert in die Tasten:
>> Thanks for the explanation.  At some point I may have to look into it
>> in
>> more detail -- although since I run my MTA (well, at least for the
>> mail
>> that matters) that does sorting serverside, might not do me any good.
>
> I would say, your MTA has nothing to do with it.
>
> If you run your own Server and your MTA receive a new message,
> let it point to procmail and sort it. I assum, you access the
> server trough IMAP so the next time you connect with your
> prefered MUA or Squirrelmail you will see the mesages nicely
> sorted.

Yeah, and as part of that, the MTA hands off to sieve (or perhaps
that's the Dovecot process that invokes sieve).  So *also* handing off
to procmail makes no real improvement.


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#198573

FromMichael Stone <mstone@debian.org>
Date2018-08-10 15:30 +0200
Message-ID<wlfEl-Iw-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#198562
On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 08:29:34AM -0400, Rich Kulawiec wrote:
>Correct.  Procmail uses a set of rules to decide what to go with messages
>presented to it; those rules are usually based on the contents of message
>headers, but don't have to be.  For example, for this mailing list:
>
>	:0:
>        * ^X-Mailing-List:.*<debian-user@lists.debian.org>
>        /home/rsk/linux/debian-user
>
>Translating, this means that any message which has the specified header
>will be appended to the file named in the last line.  (It would be nice
>if the debian lists complied with RFC 2919 by using List-Id, but at least
>this header works and is consistent throughout.)

Debian lists have had List-Id for years. This is classic procmail rule 
bitrot. :)

The equivalent maildrop syntax is:

  if (/^List-Id: <debian-user.lists.debian.org>/)
    to linux/debian-user

It's hard to argue that the procmail version is less error-prone or more 
readable. Especially when you get to things like

  :0 Whc: $HOME/msgid.lock
  | formail -D 8192 $HOME/msgid.cache

  :0 a
  .duplicate/

versus

  `reformail -D 8192 msgid.cache`
  if ( $RETURNCODE == 0 )
    to Maildir/.duplicate

Very few people can read and understand the procmail version without 
looking up what the 'W', 'h', 'c', and 'a' mean, and why there's 
sometimes two ':' and sometimes one. It was a great program back in the 
day, but that day was back when we were still writing sendmail.cf by 
hand and the procmail syntax was comparatively easy to read. If you're 
starting from scratch, this is not the place to start.

Mike Stone

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#198603

From"Michelle Konzack" <linux4michelle@tamay-dogan.net>
Date2018-08-11 10:40 +0200
Message-ID<wlxBf-2PC-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#198558
Hiello,
Am sometime in the past hackte Dan Purgert in die Tasten:
> Rich Kulawiec wrote:
>> On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 06:24:55AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote:
>>> I get more mail than that before breakfast. If you've got the
>>> right tools, it's easy to deal with.

1+

> Not familiar with procmail.  A quick perusal of the manpage seems to
> indicate this is a local mail "processor" for sorting things, as
> opposed
> to say something on the mailserver itself?

I run my own Courier Server and I use procmail since 2007 on it.
Works like a charm.

I can access my Mails sorted using Squirrelmail
or even using mutt with IMAP protocol.

Have a nice weekend

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GNU/Linux Developer     00372-54541400

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#198608

Fromdekkzz78@gmail.com
Date2018-08-11 11:10 +0200
Message-ID<wly4i-3ed-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#198558

[Multipart message — attachments visible in raw view] — view raw

On 08/10, Dan Purgert wrote:
>Rich Kulawiec wrote:
>> On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 06:24:55AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote:
>>> I get more mail than that before breakfast. If you've got the
>>> right tools, it's easy to deal with.
>>
>> This is an excellent point.  Many of the people who lodge complaints
>> like the one that started this discussion thread have chosen very poor
>> tools and thus have conflated the failings of those tools with some
>> non-existent inherent problems with mailing lists.
>
>To expand on that with my own personal prejudice -- the people using
>these "sub-par" tools are also the ones who're the cause of some of the
>existent (modern?) problems with mailing lists.
>
>Namely:
>
> - HTML Messages
> - Not wrapping messages at ~80 characters
> - top posting
>
I personally don't wrap at 80, it's IMO a right PITA when you have 1050pixels on your screen however mutt allows you to wrap on clients that are set up for full width while 
wrapping at 80 for those that wish not to.
>
>>
>> Serious email users should be using mutt, which is fast, compact,
>> resistant to attack, and has an astonishing number of features.
>
>Guess I'm not a "serious" email user then.  Half the time I'm still
>using Tbird.
>
>> Those who receive large volumes of mail should be using procmail
>> to pre-sort it, and they should be aware of RFC 2919 (and thus
>> the existence of List-Id) as an excellent means for doing so.
>> These two tools in combination make dealing with large amounts
>> of traffic to large numbers of mailing lists quite easy.
>
>Not familiar with procmail.  A quick perusal of the manpage seems to
>indicate this is a local mail "processor" for sorting things, as opposed
>to say something on the mailserver itself?
>
>
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#198659

FromZenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net>
Date2018-08-12 15:50 +0200
Message-ID<wlYUN-20M-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#198549
On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 07:06:11AM -0400, Rich Kulawiec wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 06:24:55AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote:
> > I get more mail than that before breakfast. If you've got the
> > right tools, it's easy to deal with.
> 
> This is an excellent point.  Many of the people who lodge complaints
> like the one that started this discussion thread have chosen very poor
> tools and thus have conflated the failings of those tools with some
> non-existent inherent problems with mailing lists.
> 
> Serious email users should be using mutt, which is fast, compact,
> resistant to attack, and has an astonishing number of features.
> Those who receive large volumes of mail should be using procmail
> to pre-sort it,

pre-sorting is essential but dang, procmail drove me crazy for a few
years (so slow, clunky rules, ugh!) and I finally tore into sieve
like a carnivore! Damn that felt good.

Oh, and batching the downloads with getmail (and the every friendly
Osamu pipes up on this list) or mpop - both a blindingly fast
compared to anything and everything else including TBird! for a
decade I've NEVER looked back.

And batching the sieve sorting too - not only are sieve rules a
breath of fresh air compared to procmail, it's essentially instant to
sort your "temp email download mail box" into their destination
folders (since the rules are only "compiled" once), and for the big
FTW win, give yourself a little summary output too (see attached and
very hackish script).

Last step is I need to migrate off of Gnu sieve and onto the other
one (Dovecot perhaps?) since Gnu sieve is a pompous prig which spits
the occasional "Malformed email address" - hey, perhaps it's more
secure, IDK, but the attached script even color highlights the
leftover emails from your temp download folder. Did I mention FTW?


> and they should be aware of RFC 2919 (and thus
> the existence of List-Id) as an excellent means for doing so.
> These two tools in combination make dealing with large amounts
> of traffic to large numbers of mailing lists quite easy.
> 
> Furthermore, everyone using mailing lists should be maintaining
> their own archive, simply because there's no reason not to.  The

Ack!

Once I'm subbed to a list, I simply never delete the emails (except
the occasional spam which squeaks through e.g. Debian's lists - but
it really is occasional - and for very lazy personal email spam
protection - just use the big G's email).


> storage required is small by contemporary standards and doing so
> allows the use of local search tools (e.g., grepmail) which can
> invaluable in locating relevant messages.  (Those who haven't
> been doing this can usually backfill by downloading the archives
> maintained by the site running the mailing list.  in turn, everyone
> running a mailing list should take care to see that those archives
> are fully accessible, unredacted, and downloadable on demand.)

I've used forums when no ML was available, and damn it's frustrating
- email is inherently a batch process, which is most efficient of my
time especially in the face of boondocks-class (slow) internet
connections, offline thread viewing, greppability, threads read
trackability (I can trivially see what I have and have not read yet,
and keep not reading those things I want to read later, etc) etc.

Literally nothing else compares to a comfortable offline email
setup... good luck all,

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#198552

FromDan Purgert <dan@djph.net>
Date2018-08-10 13:50 +0200
Message-ID<wle5z-89G-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#198544
Dan Ritter wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 09, 2018 at 06:05:41PM +0000, tech wrote:
>> [...]
>> Since augusth 1st:
>> 
>> I received around 12 familly mails, 62 pro-mails, 147
>> spam/pishing/bullshit mails.
>>
>> Between all the debian mails list who exist, i receives  also 168
>> emails.
>> 
>> I have maybee read 20 of them, and deleted all the others...
>
>
> I get more mail than that before breakfast. If you've got the
> right tools, it's easy to deal with.
>
> 1. Spam filter. Spamassassin is good. If you can add greylisting
> to your mail server, you should try that, too.

Both are amazing, as are some of the less intensive checks before asking
the more computationally expensive tools.

>
> 2. Automatic mail folders. The only mail that ends up in your
> inbox should be mail that your ruleset is not certain about.
> Each mailing list should get its own folder. Maildrop is easy
> to learn.

I use sieve(?) scripts.  Took maybe 10 minutes to learn the syntax
enough to get the auto redirects working.  

Although, I use my inbox somewhat more heavily than "just for things the
rules don't know", since navigating the directories via phone is more
painful than "I really didn't need to see that one".

>
> 3. Indexed mail searching. Whatever works with your preferred
> mail client. Have cron run a re-index every morning before you
> wake up.

Care to expand on this one a bit? Not entirely sure what you mean here,
and it's intriguing.

>
> 4. Mail threading in your mail client. If it doesn't do threads
> properly, time to change clients. I like mutt.

Mutt is quite nice, though I connect to the linux.debian.* MLs via
Usenet ... really ought to dig out that howto and stash it in my "don't
lose these things" directory.


>> I have sent the following emails, received zero anwsers. With a
>> "modern" system like a bugzilla/forum/tracker/else and their moder
>> options, i can know how many peoples have read it ( 23 answer for
>> 9876 readsfor example ) ... with the mailings list, how many people
>> took relly the time to read it ( as i direct-delete most of he amils
>> i receive ) ...
>
> Who cares who read your mail? Only the answers are important.

^ This.  Also it seems you're getting quite a number of responses on
this today.

Perhaps you (tech) just happen to be somwehere that the list is
"generally quiet" during your "day".


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#198576

FromDan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org>
Date2018-08-10 16:20 +0200
Message-ID<wlgqK-1df-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#198552
On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 11:33:39AM -0000, Dan Purgert wrote:
> Dan Ritter wrote:
> > 3. Indexed mail searching. Whatever works with your preferred
> > mail client. Have cron run a re-index every morning before you
> > wake up.
> 
> Care to expand on this one a bit? Not entirely sure what you mean here,
> and it's intriguing.

Full-text searching of all your mail folders is a reasonable
thing to ask your mail server and/or client to do.

notmuch, maildir-utils, mairix, nmzmail are all Debian packaged
utilities that will look through all your mail and construct an
index so that when you ask for things like:

I want the mail from people who have "Dan" in their email
addresses and had a subject with "GNU"

it can compile that list for your mail client in a second or
three, instead of reading through all your mail when you make
the query and thus taking several minutes or hours.

Each package is a little different: some want to add new
messages to an index on arrival, others want to roll through
all your mail archives each time you re-index. 

If you're a mutt user, you should also be using the amazing
power of limits to do things like "show me mail in this folder
that arrived yesterday and I replied to it" or "show me mail
in this folder that is not from my company's domain".

-dsr-

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#199294

Fromrhkramer@gmail.com
Date2018-08-23 22:10 +0200
Message-ID<wq45z-8nh-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#198552
On Friday, August 10, 2018 07:33:39 AM Dan Purgert wrote:
> Dan Ritter wrote:
> > 3. Indexed mail searching. Whatever works with your preferred
> > mail client. Have cron run a re-index every morning before you
> > wake up.
> 
> Care to expand on this one a bit? Not entirely sure what you mean here,
> and it's intriguing.

I'm not Dan Ritter, and he or some others may have responded, but, for me, I 
have used recol for that -- it creates an index of all the words in the emails 
and then allows full text searches.  Results can be displayed in various ways, 
including re-opening the email in an email client.

(Must be my day to plug recol, in which I have no financial interest (and it is 
free, anyway.)

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#199295

FromDan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org>
Date2018-08-23 22:30 +0200
Message-ID<wq4oW-8tg-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#199294
On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 04:05:52PM -0400, rhkramer@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, August 10, 2018 07:33:39 AM Dan Purgert wrote:
> > Dan Ritter wrote:
> > > 3. Indexed mail searching. Whatever works with your preferred
> > > mail client. Have cron run a re-index every morning before you
> > > wake up.
> > 
> > Care to expand on this one a bit? Not entirely sure what you mean here,
> > and it's intriguing.
> 
> I'm not Dan Ritter, and he or some others may have responded, but, for me, I 
> have used recol for that -- it creates an index of all the words in the emails 
> and then allows full text searches.  Results can be displayed in various ways, 
> including re-opening the email in an email client.

Debian package name is "recoll". Looks interesting.

-dsr-

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#199794

FromCelejar <celejar@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-05 03:50 +0200
Message-ID<wuv7b-1jt-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#199295
On Thu, 23 Aug 2018 16:23:30 -0400
Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 04:05:52PM -0400, rhkramer@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Friday, August 10, 2018 07:33:39 AM Dan Purgert wrote:
> > > Dan Ritter wrote:
> > > > 3. Indexed mail searching. Whatever works with your preferred
> > > > mail client. Have cron run a re-index every morning before you
> > > > wake up.
> > > 
> > > Care to expand on this one a bit? Not entirely sure what you mean here,
> > > and it's intriguing.
> > 
> > I'm not Dan Ritter, and he or some others may have responded, but, for me, I 
> > have used recol for that -- it creates an index of all the words in the emails 
> > and then allows full text searches.  Results can be displayed in various ways, 
> > including re-opening the email in an email client.
> 
> Debian package name is "recoll". Looks interesting.

+1

I, too, have been using recoll for full text indexing for years, for
text documents (plain, Open/LibreOffice, etc.) in general, and email in
particular. It's just a great program, and the author is accessible and
responds to bug reports, etc.

> -dsr-

Celejar

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#198525

From"James H. H. Lampert" <jamesl@touchtonecorp.com>
Date2018-08-09 21:30 +0200
Message-ID<wkYNb-7v8-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#198513
On Thu, Aug 09, 2018 at 05:39:36PM +0000, tech wrote:

>> Should'nt be time to move away from an old mail-listing to
>> something more modern like a bugzilla or else ???

On 8/9/18, 10:47 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote:
>
> No.
>

What? A list server isn't good enough for you? It's good enough for the 
Tomcat community, and for the IBM Midrange community, not to mention the 
thousand-odd organ geeks subscribed to PIPORG-L.

--
JHHL

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#198545

FromDan Purgert <dan@djph.net>
Date2018-08-10 12:30 +0200
Message-ID<wlcQ9-7vM-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#198513
Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 09, 2018 at 05:39:36PM +0000, tech wrote:
>> Should'nt be time to move away from an old mail-listing to something
>> more modern like a bugzilla or else ???
>
> No.

Do HTML archives of said mailing lists count as "more modern"?

Granted, they're not "methods of communication" so much as "a lifesaver
when I'm trying to figure out some cryptic error message."


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#199293

Fromrhkramer@gmail.com
Date2018-08-23 21:30 +0200
Message-ID<wq3sR-7Vh-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#198513
On Thursday, August 09, 2018 01:47:24 PM Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 09, 2018 at 05:39:36PM +0000, tech wrote:
> > Should'nt be time to move away from an old mail-listing to something more
> > modern like a bugzilla or else ???
> 
> No.

+1

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#199296

From"Martin McCormick" <martin.m@suddenlink.net>
Date2018-08-23 23:00 +0200
Message-ID<wq4RX-bM-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#199293
rhkramer@gmail.com writes:
> On Thursday, August 09, 2018 01:47:24 PM Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 09, 2018 at 05:39:36PM +0000, tech wrote:
> > > Should'nt be time to move away from an old mail-listing to something 
> more
> > > modern like a bugzilla or else ???
> >
> > No.
> 
> +1

Ditto.

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#199306

FromPiotr Martyniuk <zaxonxp45@gmail.com>
Date2018-08-24 08:10 +0200
Message-ID<wqdsd-5v5-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#199293
On 2018-08-23, rhkramer@gmail.com <rhkramer@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, August 09, 2018 01:47:24 PM Greg Wooledge wrote:
>> On Thu, Aug 09, 2018 at 05:39:36PM +0000, tech wrote:
>> > Should'nt be time to move away from an old mail-listing to something more
>> > modern like a bugzilla or else ???

NNTP was the way. You do not need more than this.

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#199307

FromZenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net>
Date2018-08-24 08:30 +0200
Message-ID<wqdLz-5AY-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#199306
On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 05:54:47AM +0000, Piotr Martyniuk wrote:
> On 2018-08-23, rhkramer@gmail.com <rhkramer@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Thursday, August 09, 2018 01:47:24 PM Greg Wooledge wrote:
> >> On Thu, Aug 09, 2018 at 05:39:36PM +0000, tech wrote:
> >> > Should'nt be time to move away from an old mail-listing to something more
> >> > modern like a bugzilla or else ???
> 
> NNTP was the way. You do not need more than this.

ed, awk and fast typing to filter those convos of interest "on
demand" ought be plenty for anyone ... sheesh!

Man, when we wuz yung unz, we were -lucky- to even have cosmic rays
for editing.
https://xkcd.com/378/

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#199308

FromPiotr Martyniuk <zaxonxp45@gmail.com>
Date2018-08-24 09:00 +0200
Message-ID<wqeeB-5KP-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#199307
On 2018-08-24, Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> wrote:
> ed, awk and fast typing to filter those convos of interest "on
> demand" ought be plenty for anyone ... sheesh!
>
> Man, when we wuz yung unz, we were -lucky- to even have cosmic rays
> for editing.
> https://xkcd.com/378/

No need to go for extreemes. Good NNTP client would do what you want.
And for these who want learn nothing e-mail access was invented. :)

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#199312

FromZenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net>
Date2018-08-24 11:50 +0200
Message-ID<wqgT8-7n6-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#199308
On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 06:47:59AM +0000, Piotr Martyniuk wrote:
> On 2018-08-24, Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> wrote:
> > ed, awk and fast typing to filter those convos of interest "on
> > demand" ought be plenty for anyone ... sheesh!
> >
> > Man, when we wuz yung unz, we were -lucky- to even have cosmic rays
> > for editing.
> > https://xkcd.com/378/
> 
> No need to go for extreemes. Good NNTP client would do what you want.
> And for these who want learn nothing e-mail access was invented. :)

I am certain that NNTP is useful and has its place - but that's not
nearly so much fun as suggesting folks should simply "awk on demand"
to filter their 15GiB-and-growing set of emails - like, who needs
folders?

;)

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#199328

From"Michelle Konzack" <linux4michelle@tamay-dogan.net>
Date2018-08-24 21:00 +0200
Message-ID<wqptn-3T5-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#199306
Hi,
Am 2018-08-24 hackte Piotr Martyniuk in die Tasten:
> On 2018-08-23, rhkramer@gmail.com <rhkramer@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thursday, August 09, 2018 01:47:24 PM Greg Wooledge wrote:
>>> On Thu, Aug 09, 2018 at 05:39:36PM +0000, tech wrote:
>>> > Should'nt be time to move away from an old mail-listing to
>>> something more
>>> > modern like a bugzilla or else ???
>
> NNTP was the way. You do not need more than this.

Definitively not.

MANY IAP forbid the use of NNTP (e.g. the french Providers Bougues and
Orange) because of the HUGE traffic it produce.

Also you can not access NNTP from mobile devices without killing your
data traffic allowance...

Telia in Estonia has no restrictions, but downloading the index of a
Kernel Devel Newsgroup has just produced 356MByte traffic!  WTF?
96.000 Messages?

NO THANKS!

-- 
Michelle Konzack        Miila ITSystems @ TDnet
GNU/Linux Developer     00372-54541400

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