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  Wine error message Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-07-21 17:10 +0200
    Re: Wine error message floris <jkfloris@dds.nl> - 2018-07-23 15:00 +0200
      Re: Wine error message Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-07-24 23:10 +0200
        Re: Wine error message Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-07-25 11:10 +0200
          Re: Wine error message Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-07-25 12:30 +0200
        Re: Wine error message floris <jkfloris@dds.nl> - 2018-07-25 13:10 +0200
      Re: Wine error message Gour <gour@atmarama.com> - 2018-08-04 13:00 +0200
        Re: Wine error message Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> - 2018-08-04 13:20 +0200
          Re: Wine error message Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> - 2018-08-04 14:00 +0200
            Re: Wine error message Gour <gour@atmarama.com> - 2018-08-05 08:20 +0200
          Re: Wine error message Gour <gour@atmarama.com> - 2018-08-04 14:00 +0200

#197843 — Wine error message

Just installed/used wine for first time ever.
I attempted to run an installer which asks a typical set of questions to 
which I chose the defaults. It is setup to run a demo on completion. The 
demo appears to run correctly. I ran the same installer on a WinXP 
machine which appears to run identically.

I have two problems.
On exiting the installer nothing has actually been written to disk
Second, early in the question asking phase, a message appears on my console:
> $ err:trash:TRASH_MoveFileToBucket Couldn't move file

That is the message that prompted this post.
What is it trying to say?
Is there a catalog of Wine error messages (didn't find one)?

I have reason to doubt the first problem is a bug in wine &/or Debian.
Long after the error message above appears, there is an *installer* 
warning that "a non wine program is being executed under wine". I 
suspect that the wine compliant version requires a paid unlock code - 
there are ambiguities on the website that I've already reported.

I suspect the error message quoted above is either a wine bug or 
something strange about my system.

The installer is [install_advance_5.40.00.00.exe] from 
[https://onlinebible.net/].

Comments?
TIA

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#197943

Richard Owlett schreef op 2018-07-21 17:02:
> Just installed/used wine for first time ever.

The Wine version in Debian Stable is very old and unsupported. You 
should use the WineHQ packages or use the version from Backports


> I attempted to run an installer which asks a typical set of questions
> to which I chose the defaults. It is setup to run a demo on
> completion. The demo appears to run correctly. I ran the same
> installer on a WinXP machine which appears to run identically.
> 
> I have two problems.
> On exiting the installer nothing has actually been written to disk

Wine uses a hidden folder ~/.wine as it default location. Did you check 
that location?

> Second, early in the question asking phase, a message appears on my 
> console:
>> $ err:trash:TRASH_MoveFileToBucket Couldn't move file
> 
> That is the message that prompted this post.
> What is it trying to say?
> Is there a catalog of Wine error messages (didn't find one)?
> 

In Wine version 3.12 there isn't such message.
You could read the FAQ, the manual and the forum on winehq.org if you 
look for error messages.

---
Floris

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#197962

On 07/23/2018 07:56 AM, floris wrote:
> Richard Owlett schreef op 2018-07-21 17:02:
>> Just installed/used wine for first time ever.
> 
> The Wine version in Debian Stable is very old and unsupported. You 
> should use the WineHQ packages or use the version from Backports


Did that
done dat
I've T shirt

> 
> 
>> I attempted to run an installer which asks a typical set of questions
>> to which I chose the defaults. It is setup to run a demo on
>> completion. The demo appears to run correctly. I ran the same
>> installer on a WinXP machine which appears to run identically.
>>
>> I have two problems.
>> On exiting the installer nothing has actually been written to disk
> 
> Wine uses a hidden folder ~/.wine as it default location. Did you check 
> that location?

Non-informative

> 
>> Second, early in the question asking phase, a message appears on my 
>> console:
>>> $ err:trash:TRASH_MoveFileToBucket Couldn't move file
>>
>> That is the message that prompted this post.
>> What is it trying to say?
>> Is there a catalog of Wine error messages (didn't find one)?
>>
> 
> In Wine version 3.12 there isn't such message.

Oh *NO*
u answered question ???

> You could read the FAQ, the manual and the forum on winehq.org if you 
> look for error messages.

*SNICKER*

I was vainly attempting to determine that what I saw on my console was a 
WINE or an APPLICATION error message.

It has been *YEARS* since I've actually used my WinXP machine. Don't 
know how to copy/find appropriate file(s) on my WinXp machine in order 
that WINE might attempt to execute.

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#197976

On 2018-07-24, Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> wrote:
>
> I was vainly attempting to determine that what I saw on my console was a 
> WINE or an APPLICATION error message.
>

Looks like it's coming from wine.

https://github.com/wine-mirror/wine/blob/master/dlls/shell32/trash.c

static BOOL TRASH_MoveFileToBucket(TRASH_BUCKET *pBucket, const char *unix_path)
{
    struct stat file_stat;
    char *trash_file_name = NULL;
    char *trash_path = NULL;
    BOOL ret = TRUE;

    if (lstat(unix_path, &file_stat)==-1)
        return FALSE;
    if (!file_good_for_bucket(pBucket, &file_stat))
        return FALSE;
        
    trash_file_name = create_trashinfo(pBucket->info_dir, unix_path);
    if (trash_file_name == NULL)
        return FALSE;
        
    trash_path = SHAlloc(strlen(pBucket->files_dir)+strlen(trash_file_name)+1);
    if (trash_path == NULL) goto error;
    lstrcpyA(trash_path, pBucket->files_dir);
    lstrcatA(trash_path, trash_file_name);
    
    if (rename(unix_path, trash_path)==0)
    {
        TRACE("rename succeeded\n");
        goto cleanup;
    }
    
    /* TODO: try to manually move the file */
ERR("Couldn't move file\n");
    **********************

-- 
Boris sober and Boris drunk are such different people, they’ve never even met. 
-- Sergei Dovlatov, Pushkin Hills

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#197980

On 07/25/2018 04:04 AM, Curt wrote:
> On 2018-07-24, Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> wrote:
>>
>> I was vainly attempting to determine that what I saw on my console was a
>> WINE or an APPLICATION error message.
>>
> 
> Looks like it's coming from wine.
> 
> https://github.com/wine-mirror/wine/blob/master/dlls/shell32/trash.c
> 
> static BOOL TRASH_MoveFileToBucket(TRASH_BUCKET *pBucket, const char *unix_path)
> {
>      struct stat file_stat;
>      char *trash_file_name = NULL;
>      char *trash_path = NULL;
>      BOOL ret = TRUE;
> 
>      if (lstat(unix_path, &file_stat)==-1)
>          return FALSE;
>      if (!file_good_for_bucket(pBucket, &file_stat))
>          return FALSE;
>          
>      trash_file_name = create_trashinfo(pBucket->info_dir, unix_path);
>      if (trash_file_name == NULL)
>          return FALSE;
>          
>      trash_path = SHAlloc(strlen(pBucket->files_dir)+strlen(trash_file_name)+1);
>      if (trash_path == NULL) goto error;
>      lstrcpyA(trash_path, pBucket->files_dir);
>      lstrcatA(trash_path, trash_file_name);
>      
>      if (rename(unix_path, trash_path)==0)
>      {
>          TRACE("rename succeeded\n");
>          goto cleanup;
>      }
>      
>      /* TODO: try to manually move the file */
> ERR("Couldn't move file\n");
>      **********************
> 

Thank you.

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#197981

Richard Owlett schreef op 2018-07-24 23:00:
> On 07/23/2018 07:56 AM, floris wrote:
>> Richard Owlett schreef op 2018-07-21 17:02:
>>> Just installed/used wine for first time ever.
>> 
>> The Wine version in Debian Stable is very old and unsupported. You 
>> should use the WineHQ packages or use the version from Backports
> 
> 
> Did that
> done dat
> I've T shirt
> 

Which wine version do you use?

>> 
>> 
>>> I attempted to run an installer which asks a typical set of questions
>>> to which I chose the defaults. It is setup to run a demo on
>>> completion. The demo appears to run correctly. I ran the same
>>> installer on a WinXP machine which appears to run identically.
>>> 
>>> I have two problems.
>>> On exiting the installer nothing has actually been written to disk
>> 
>> Wine uses a hidden folder ~/.wine as it default location. Did you 
>> check that location?
> 
> Non-informative

Maybe I don't understand your "nothing has actually been written to 
disk"
But when I try the installer with the default settings, the program is 
installed in:

$WINEPREFIX/drive_c/users/<USER>/Local Settings/Application Data/OLB
(C:\users\<USER>\Local Settings\Application Data\OLB)
OLBLite.801  PocketOnlineBible.801

and
$WINEPREFIX/drive_c/Program Files (x86)/Bible
(C:\Program Files (x86)\Bible)
Desktop.Idt  HelpEng.Chm  messages.eng  Paragrap.map  TutorEng.Chm
Dsp.wav      Icons        OlbDel.Exe    SDPath.Txt    VIReadMe.Eng
Go.Bat       Install.Msg  Olb.Exe       Std.wav       WhatsNew.Eng



> 
>> 
>>> Second, early in the question asking phase, a message appears on my 
>>> console:
>>>> $ err:trash:TRASH_MoveFileToBucket Couldn't move file
>>> 
>>> That is the message that prompted this post.
>>> What is it trying to say?
>>> Is there a catalog of Wine error messages (didn't find one)?
>>> 
>> 
>> In Wine version 3.12 there isn't such message.
> 
> Oh *NO*
> u answered question ???

Every two weeks there is a new wine version with a lot of bug fixes. 
Probably this bug is resolved.
Now only a "fixme" warning is printed:
0009:fixme:file:MoveFileWithProgressW MOVEFILE_WRITE_THROUGH 
unimplemented

To answer your "is there a catalog of Wine error messages?" question.
No, there isn't a list with "error x happend ->  the message means this 
-> you should do this"

> 
>> You could read the FAQ, the manual and the forum on winehq.org if you 
>> look for error messages.
> 
> *SNICKER*
> 
> I was vainly attempting to determine that what I saw on my console was
> a WINE or an APPLICATION error message.
> 
> It has been *YEARS* since I've actually used my WinXP machine. Don't
> know how to copy/find appropriate file(s) on my WinXp machine in order
> that WINE might attempt to execute.

---
Floris

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#198243

On Mon, 23 Jul 2018 14:56:56 +0200
floris <jkfloris@dds.nl> wrote:

> The Wine version in Debian Stable is very old and unsupported. You
> should use the WineHQ packages or use the version from Backports

Thank you for helpful advice!

Few days ago I migrated from Fedora (fc28) where I had serious issues with
4.17.x kernel series experiencing system hangs several times per day when
leaving my machine unattended to Debian Sid where there are nothing similar (so
far).

However, I have a need to run several apps under Wine, but attempt to install
it on my x86_64 was an impossible mission - it seems that wine32 is broken.
Finally, after enabling WineHQ repo and installing from there, eveything is
fine. :-)


Sincerely,
Gour

-- 
There is no possibility of one's becoming a yogī, O Arjuna,
if one eats too much or eats too little, sleeps too much
or does not sleep enough.

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#198245

On 08/04/2018 06:58 AM, Gour wrote:
> Few days ago I migrated from Fedora (fc28) where I had serious issues with
> 4.17.x kernel series experiencing system hangs several times per day when
> leaving my machine unattended to Debian Sid where there are nothing similar (so
> far).

If you're looking for a more stable system, maybe the "unstable"
distribution of Debian is not an ideal choice?
-- 
Carl Fink          carl@finknetwork.com
Thinking and logic and stuff at Reasonably Literate
http://reasonablyliterate.com

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#198248

On 08/04/2018 07:51 AM, Gour wrote:
> However, 'stable' is too old for me, although I'll probably put it on my
> relative's machined and between 'testing' and 'unstable' I believe
> that the latter is bette option.
>

For years, my policy has been to use stable on servers and testing
on workstations.
-- 

Carl Fink          carl@finknetwork.com
Thinking and logic and stuff at Reasonably Literate
http://reasonablyliterate.com

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#198276

On Sat, 4 Aug 2018 07:55:05 -0400
Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> wrote:

> For years, my policy has been to use stable on servers and testing
> on workstations.

For servers i'ts pretty much clear, but in regard to testing vs unstable this
was decisive part for me: "Testing has more up-to-date software than Stable,
and it breaks less often than Unstable. But when it breaks, it might take a
long time for things to get rectified. Sometimes this could be days and it
could be months at times. It also does not have permanent security support."
(https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-choosing.html)


Sincerely,
Gour

-- 
Abandoning all attachment to the results of his activities,
ever satisfied and independent, he performs no fruitive action,
although engaged in all kinds of undertakings.

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#198249

On Sat, 4 Aug 2018 07:16:47 -0400
Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> wrote:

> If you're looking for a more stable system, maybe the "unstable"
> distribution of Debian is not an ideal choice?

Well, in the past I spent >10yrs with rolling distros (Gentoo & Arch) and
thought that Fedora might be good option providign newer packages and I had
good experience with smoooth upgrades between releases, bつt last incidents
were too much and I never experienced such thing with Debian.

However, 'stable' is too old for me, although I'll probably put it on my
relative's machined and between 'testing' and 'unstable' I believe
that the latter is bette option.


Sincerely,
Gour

-- 
One who is not disturbed in mind even amidst the threefold
miseries or elated when there is happiness, and who is free
from attachment, fear and anger, is called a sage of steady mind.

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