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| Started by | Kent West <westk@acu.edu> |
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| First post | 2018-07-13 18:40 +0200 |
| Last post | 2018-07-13 21:10 +0200 |
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Sid still getting retired DNS entry Kent West <westk@acu.edu> - 2018-07-13 18:40 +0200
Re: Sid still getting retired DNS entry Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-07-13 18:40 +0200
Re: Sid still getting retired DNS entry Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-07-13 19:00 +0200
Re: Sid still getting retired DNS entry Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-07-13 19:00 +0200
Re: Sid still getting retired DNS entry Kent West <westk@acu.edu> - 2018-07-13 19:00 +0200
Re: Sid still getting retired DNS entry john doe <johndoe65534@mail.com> - 2018-07-13 19:10 +0200
Re: Sid still getting retired DNS entry Kent West <westk@acu.edu> - 2018-07-13 19:10 +0200
Re: Sid still getting retired DNS entry john doe <johndoe65534@mail.com> - 2018-07-13 19:40 +0200
Re: Sid still getting retired DNS entry Kent West <westk@acu.edu> - 2018-07-13 20:40 +0200
Re: Sid still getting retired DNS entry Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-07-13 20:50 +0200
Re: Sid still getting retired DNS entry Kent West <westk@acu.edu> - 2018-07-13 21:10 +0200
| From | Kent West <westk@acu.edu> |
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| Date | 2018-07-13 18:40 +0200 |
| Subject | Sid still getting retired DNS entry |
| Message-ID | <wb9gR-6Js-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
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In my org, a DNS server was recently retired, but my /etc/resolv.conf is still being populated with the old DNS entry (which slows my networking considerably; I can delete that line manually, but that's just a temporary fix). My network admin tells me that I have a "dhcp-static" address, and "it shows to have the correct dns info at the server. If you are getting network settings from DHCP and they aren't manually configured, you should have the correct settings from what I am seeing." My /etc/network/interfaces: westk@westkent:~$ cat /etc/network/interfaces > # This file describes the network interfaces available on your system > # and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5). > source /etc/network/interfaces.d/* > # The loopback network interface > auto lo > iface lo inet loopback and westk@westkent:~$ ls -lah /etc/network/interfaces.d/ > total 8.0K > drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4.0K Mar 13 2015 . > drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 4.0K Jul 13 07:39 .. Any suggestions as to what's going on? Thanks! -- Kent West <")))>< Westing Peacefully - http://kentwest.blogspot.com
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| From | Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> |
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| Date | 2018-07-13 18:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <wb9gS-6Js-11@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #197595 |
On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 11:29:42AM -0500, Kent West wrote: > westk@westkent:~$ cat /etc/network/interfaces > > # This file describes the network interfaces available on your system > > # and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5). > > source /etc/network/interfaces.d/* > > # The loopback network interface > > auto lo > > iface lo inet loopback Well, if the interface isn't being configured in /e/n/i then either it's using NetworkManager or it's using systemd-networkd. Or something that you set up by hand.
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| From | Curt <curty@free.fr> |
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| Date | 2018-07-13 19:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <wb9Ad-6QO-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #197596 |
On 2018-07-13, Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> wrote: > On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 11:29:42AM -0500, Kent West wrote: >> westk@westkent:~$ cat /etc/network/interfaces >> > # This file describes the network interfaces available on your system >> > # and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5). >> > source /etc/network/interfaces.d/* >> > # The loopback network interface >> > auto lo >> > iface lo inet loopback > > Well, if the interface isn't being configured in /e/n/i then either it's > using NetworkManager or it's using systemd-networkd. Or something that > you set up by hand. > > NetworkManager informs me here that it has taken control of /etc/resolv.conf: curty@einstein:~$ cat /etc/resolv.conf # Generated by NetworkManager nameserver 192.168.0.254 So I guess the OP would know if it's nm or not.
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| From | Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> |
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| Date | 2018-07-13 19:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <wb9Ad-6QO-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #197596 |
On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 11:50:22AM -0500, Kent West wrote: > westk@westkent:~$ ps as | grep NetworkManager > 1000 11085 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 > 0000000180000000 S+ pts/0 0:00 grep NetworkManager > westk@westkent:~$ ps as | grep systemd-networkd > 1000 11088 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 > 0000000180000000 S+ pts/0 0:00 grep systemd-networkd > > So I would agree with you. But where do I look to find the problem? Find whoever set up this system and get them to tell you how they did it. Failing that, you could TRY setting up the interface in /e/n/i and see if that undoes whatever the other thing is. If there even is an other thing. Maybe there really isn't anything managing the interface AT ALL and it's only running because the previous admin brought it up by hand with raw "ip" commands and the system hasn't been rebooted since then. Who the hell knows.
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| From | Kent West <westk@acu.edu> |
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| Date | 2018-07-13 19:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <wb9Ad-6QO-7@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #197596 |
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On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 11:36 AM, Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> wrote: > On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 11:29:42AM -0500, Kent West wrote: > > westk@westkent:~$ cat /etc/network/interfaces > > > # This file describes the network interfaces available on your system > > > # and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5). > > > source /etc/network/interfaces.d/* > > > # The loopback network interface > > > auto lo > > > iface lo inet loopback > > Well, if the interface isn't being configured in /e/n/i then either it's > using NetworkManager or it's using systemd-networkd. Or something that > you set up by hand. > > westk@westkent:~$ ps as | grep NetworkManager 1000 11085 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000180000000 S+ pts/0 0:00 grep NetworkManager westk@westkent:~$ ps as | grep systemd-networkd 1000 11088 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000180000000 S+ pts/0 0:00 grep systemd-networkd So I would agree with you. But where do I look to find the problem? Thanks! -- Kent West <")))>< Westing Peacefully - http://kentwest.blogspot.com
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| From | john doe <johndoe65534@mail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-07-13 19:10 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <wb9JU-79U-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #197599 |
On 7/13/2018 6:50 PM, Kent West wrote: > On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 11:36 AM, Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> wrote: > >> On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 11:29:42AM -0500, Kent West wrote: >>> westk@westkent:~$ cat /etc/network/interfaces >>>> # This file describes the network interfaces available on your system >>>> # and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5). >>>> source /etc/network/interfaces.d/* >>>> # The loopback network interface >>>> auto lo >>>> iface lo inet loopback >> >> Well, if the interface isn't being configured in /e/n/i then either it's >> using NetworkManager or it's using systemd-networkd. Or something that >> you set up by hand. >> >> > westk@westkent:~$ ps as | grep NetworkManager > 1000 11085 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 > 0000000180000000 S+ pts/0 0:00 grep NetworkManager > westk@westkent:~$ ps as | grep systemd-networkd > 1000 11088 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 > 0000000180000000 S+ pts/0 0:00 grep systemd-networkd > 'systemd-resolved' will handle your DNS. Is /etc/resolv.conf a symlink (if yes, to where)? What is the output of: $ cat /etc/resolv.conf -- John Doe
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| From | Kent West <westk@acu.edu> |
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| Date | 2018-07-13 19:10 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <wb9JU-79U-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #197601 |
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On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 12:00 PM, john doe <johndoe65534@mail.com> wrote: > On 7/13/2018 6:50 PM, Kent West wrote: > >> On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 11:36 AM, Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> >> wrote: >> >> On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 11:29:42AM -0500, Kent West wrote: >>> >>>> westk@westkent:~$ cat /etc/network/interfaces >>>> >>>>> # This file describes the network interfaces available on your system >>>>> # and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5). >>>>> source /etc/network/interfaces.d/* >>>>> # The loopback network interface >>>>> auto lo >>>>> iface lo inet loopback >>>>> >>>> >>> Well, if the interface isn't being configured in /e/n/i then either it's >>> using NetworkManager or it's using systemd-networkd. Or something that >>> you set up by hand. >>> >>> >>> westk@westkent:~$ ps as | grep NetworkManager >> 1000 11085 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 >> 0000000180000000 S+ pts/0 0:00 grep NetworkManager >> westk@westkent:~$ ps as | grep systemd-networkd >> 1000 11088 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 >> 0000000180000000 S+ pts/0 0:00 grep systemd-networkd >> >> > 'systemd-resolved' will handle your DNS. > > Is /etc/resolv.conf a symlink (if yes, to where)? > westk@westkent:~$ ls -lah /etc/resolv.conf lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 31 Jul 13 11:22 /etc/resolv.conf -> /run/NetworkManager/resolv.conf > What is the output of: > > $ cat /etc/resolv.conf > > westk@westkent:~$ cat /etc/resolv.conf # Generated by NetworkManager search acu.local nameserver 150.252.131.127 nameserver 150.252.134.8 nameserver 150.252.134.159 (this is after I manually removed the bad entry and replaced it with the good) Is there a way to test, from my client, what my ord's DHPC server is giving me for DNS entries, to double-check my network admin's findings? -- Kent West <")))>< Westing Peacefully - http://kentwest.blogspot.com
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| From | john doe <johndoe65534@mail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-07-13 19:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <wbacV-7ke-7@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #197602 |
On 7/13/2018 7:04 PM, Kent West wrote: > On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 12:00 PM, john doe <johndoe65534@mail.com> wrote: > >> On 7/13/2018 6:50 PM, Kent West wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 11:36 AM, Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> >>> wrote: >>> >>> On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 11:29:42AM -0500, Kent West wrote: >>>> >>>>> westk@westkent:~$ cat /etc/network/interfaces >>>>> >>>>>> # This file describes the network interfaces available on your system >>>>>> # and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5). >>>>>> source /etc/network/interfaces.d/* >>>>>> # The loopback network interface >>>>>> auto lo >>>>>> iface lo inet loopback >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> Well, if the interface isn't being configured in /e/n/i then either it's >>>> using NetworkManager or it's using systemd-networkd. Or something that >>>> you set up by hand. >>>> >>>> >>>> westk@westkent:~$ ps as | grep NetworkManager >>> 1000 11085 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 >>> 0000000180000000 S+ pts/0 0:00 grep NetworkManager >>> westk@westkent:~$ ps as | grep systemd-networkd >>> 1000 11088 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 >>> 0000000180000000 S+ pts/0 0:00 grep systemd-networkd >>> >>> >> 'systemd-resolved' will handle your DNS. >> >> Is /etc/resolv.conf a symlink (if yes, to where)? >> > > westk@westkent:~$ ls -lah /etc/resolv.conf > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 31 Jul 13 11:22 /etc/resolv.conf -> > /run/NetworkManager/resolv.conf > > > >> What is the output of: >> >> $ cat /etc/resolv.conf >> >> > westk@westkent:~$ cat /etc/resolv.conf > # Generated by NetworkManager > search acu.local > nameserver 150.252.131.127 > nameserver 150.252.134.8 > nameserver 150.252.134.159 > > (this is after I manually removed the bad entry and replaced it with the > good) > > > Is there a way to test, from my client, what my ord's DHPC server is giving > me for DNS entries, to double-check my network admin's findings? > Possibly, but I don't know how NM works. Some hints: The best way is to be sure of what the dhcp server is dishing out assuming you can access it. If you are ready to get dirty and break your "system": 1) Empty /etc/resolv.conf (clear the content of the file, that way, you don't remove the symlink) 2) Remove any configuration relative to DNS (/etc/network/interfaces ...) 3) Restart NM 4) The file /etc/resolv.conf should be populated with the DNS given by your dhcp server You might have some luck looking in the directory: /var/lib/dhcp -- John Doe
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| From | Kent West <westk@acu.edu> |
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| Date | 2018-07-13 20:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <wbb90-7UN-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #197603 |
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On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 12:31 PM, john doe <johndoe65534@mail.com> wrote: > On 7/13/2018 7:04 PM, Kent West wrote: > >> On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 12:00 PM, john doe <johndoe65534@mail.com> wrote: >> >> On 7/13/2018 6:50 PM, Kent West wrote: >>> >>> On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 11:36 AM, Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 11:29:42AM -0500, Kent West wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> westk@westkent:~$ cat /etc/network/interfaces >>>>>> >>>>>> # This file describes the network interfaces available on your system >>>>>>> # and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5). >>>>>>> source /etc/network/interfaces.d/* >>>>>>> # The loopback network interface >>>>>>> auto lo >>>>>>> iface lo inet loopback >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> Well, if the interface isn't being configured in /e/n/i then either >>>>> it's >>>>> using NetworkManager or it's using systemd-networkd. Or something that >>>>> you set up by hand. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> westk@westkent:~$ ps as | grep NetworkManager >>>>> >>>> 1000 11085 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 >>>> 0000000180000000 S+ pts/0 0:00 grep NetworkManager >>>> westk@westkent:~$ ps as | grep systemd-networkd >>>> 1000 11088 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 >>>> 0000000180000000 S+ pts/0 0:00 grep systemd-networkd >>>> >>>> >>>> 'systemd-resolved' will handle your DNS. >>> >>> Is /etc/resolv.conf a symlink (if yes, to where)? >>> >>> >> westk@westkent:~$ ls -lah /etc/resolv.conf >> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 31 Jul 13 11:22 /etc/resolv.conf -> >> /run/NetworkManager/resolv.conf >> >> >> >> What is the output of: >>> >>> $ cat /etc/resolv.conf >>> >>> >>> westk@westkent:~$ cat /etc/resolv.conf >> # Generated by NetworkManager >> search acu.local >> nameserver 150.252.131.127 >> nameserver 150.252.134.8 >> nameserver 150.252.134.159 >> >> (this is after I manually removed the bad entry and replaced it with the >> good) >> >> >> Is there a way to test, from my client, what my ord's DHPC server is >> giving >> me for DNS entries, to double-check my network admin's findings? >> >> > Possibly, but I don't know how NM works. > > Some hints: > > The best way is to be sure of what the dhcp server is dishing out assuming > you can access it. > > If you are ready to get dirty and break your "system": > > 1) Empty /etc/resolv.conf (clear the content of the file, that way, you > don't remove the symlink) > I made a backup of the file, and then emptied /etc/resolv.conf, saving it back as an empty file. > 2) Remove any configuration relative to DNS (/etc/network/interfaces ...) > I renamed /etc/network/interfaces. > 3) Restart NM > I ran /etc/init.d/network-manager stop followed by /etc/init.d/network-manager start > 4) The file /etc/resolv.conf should be populated with the DNS given by > your dhcp server > The /etc/resolv.conf is back to where it started, with the bad entry. So, either my network admin is wrong about what his configuration is feeding to my box, or there's something between his server and my NetworkManager that is misconfigured. > > You might have some luck looking in the directory: > > /var/lib/dhcp > > The only thing here is an empty dhclient.leases file. > -- > John Doe > > -- Kent West <")))>< Westing Peacefully - http://kentwest.blogspot.com
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| From | Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> |
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| Date | 2018-07-13 20:50 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <wbbiF-7YA-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #197604 |
On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 01:33:41PM -0500, Kent West wrote: > I renamed /etc/network/interfaces. Put it back!! It contains the configuration for loopback (lo) which is really important. Your interface was NOT listed in /e/n/i so Network Manager grabbed it and took over. You can see this by the way /etc/resolv.conf had been turned into a symlink with "Network Manager" in the name, and by the way the contents of that symlink said "Network Manager was here".
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| From | Kent West <westk@acu.edu> |
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| Date | 2018-07-13 21:10 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <wbbC2-8kQ-13@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #197605 |
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On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 1:46 PM, Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> wrote: > On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 01:33:41PM -0500, Kent West wrote: > > I renamed /etc/network/interfaces. > > Put it back!! > > It contains the configuration for loopback (lo) which is really important. > > Your interface was NOT listed in /e/n/i so Network Manager grabbed it and > took over. > > You can see this by the way /etc/resolv.conf had been turned into a symlink > with "Network Manager" in the name, and by the way the contents of that > symlink said "Network Manager was here". > > Already put back to the way it's supposed to be. Welp, this has been educational, although I didn't get all the answers I wanted. But we can stop now, because ... DUH! ... why don't I try a different computer on this same wire? And behold! It gets the bad DNS entry also. I'll go back to my network admin now, and pester him. Thanks anyway, all! -- Kent West <")))>< Westing Peacefully - http://kentwest.blogspot.com
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