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How to read posts on a browser (how to check if a post I sent got to the list)

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First post2018-10-25 22:00 +0200
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  How to read posts on a browser (how to check if a post I sent got to the list) rhkramer@gmail.com - 2018-10-25 22:00 +0200
    Re: How to read posts on a browser (how to check if a post I sent  got to the list) Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-10-25 22:10 +0200
      Re: How to read posts on a browser (how to check if a post I sent got to the list) rhkramer@gmail.com - 2018-10-25 22:20 +0200
    Re: How to read posts on a browser (how to check if a post I sent got to the list) rhkramer@gmail.com - 2018-10-25 22:10 +0200
    Re: How to read posts on a browser (how to check if a post I sent  got to the list) Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2018-10-25 22:40 +0200
    Re: How to read posts on a browser (how to check if a post I sent got to the list) Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-10-25 23:00 +0200

#201636 — How to read posts on a browser (how to check if a post I sent got to the list)

Fromrhkramer@gmail.com
Date2018-10-25 22:00 +0200
SubjectHow to read posts on a browser (how to check if a post I sent got to the list)
Message-ID<wMTXr-2WE-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
I usually read mail list posts in kmail, but they never show the posts that I 
made (except in the sent mail folder).

I want to see if a post I sent made it to the list.

I tried going to:

https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2018/10/thrd2.html

debian-user Oct 2018 by thread 

But it says (and has said for at least several minutes):

The last update was on 19:40 GMT Thu Oct 25. There are 859 messages. Page 2 of 
2.

I think that is about 4 hours behind the current time.

So it is not updating in "real time".

Is there another place to read posts on a browser in closer to real time?

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#201637 — Re: How to read posts on a browser (how to check if a post I sent got to the list)

FromGreg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org>
Date2018-10-25 22:10 +0200
SubjectRe: How to read posts on a browser (how to check if a post I sent got to the list)
Message-ID<wMU77-3f2-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#201636
On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 03:57:32PM -0400, rhkramer@gmail.com wrote:
> I want to see if a post I sent made it to the list.

This one did. :-)

> The last update was on 19:40 GMT Thu Oct 25. There are 859 messages. Page 2 of 
> 2.
> 
> I think that is about 4 hours behind the current time.

wooledg:~$ date -u
Thu Oct 25 20:02:34 UTC 2018

Seems reasonably current to me.  Did you forget to look at the "GMT" part?

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#201639

Fromrhkramer@gmail.com
Date2018-10-25 22:20 +0200
Message-ID<wMUgO-3ic-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#201637
On Thursday, October 25, 2018 04:03:53 PM Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 03:57:32PM -0400, rhkramer@gmail.com wrote:
> > I want to see if a post I sent made it to the list.
> 
> This one did. :-)
> 
> > The last update was on 19:40 GMT Thu Oct 25. There are 859 messages. Page
> > 2 of 2.
> > 
> > I think that is about 4 hours behind the current time.
> 
> wooledg:~$ date -u
> Thu Oct 25 20:02:34 UTC 2018
> 
> Seems reasonably current to me.  Did you forget to look at the "GMT" part?

Something like that, just call it a brain fart. ;-)

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#201638

Fromrhkramer@gmail.com
Date2018-10-25 22:10 +0200
Message-ID<wMU77-3f2-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#201636
Never mind, my 4 hours was wrong, it seems to update every 20 minutes.

On Thursday, October 25, 2018 03:57:32 PM rhkramer@gmail.com wrote:
> I usually read mail list posts in kmail, but they never show the posts that
> I made (except in the sent mail folder).
> 
> I want to see if a post I sent made it to the list.
> 
> I tried going to:
> 
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2018/10/thrd2.html
> 
> debian-user Oct 2018 by thread
> 
> But it says (and has said for at least several minutes):
> 
> The last update was on 19:40 GMT Thu Oct 25. There are 859 messages. Page 2
> of 2.
> 
> I think that is about 4 hours behind the current time.
> 
> So it is not updating in "real time".
> 
> Is there another place to read posts on a browser in closer to real time?

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#201644 — Re: How to read posts on a browser (how to check if a post I sent got to the list)

FromReco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net>
Date2018-10-25 22:40 +0200
SubjectRe: How to read posts on a browser (how to check if a post I sent got to the list)
Message-ID<wMUAa-3ov-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#201636
On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 03:57:32PM -0400, rhkramer@gmail.com wrote:
> I usually read mail list posts in kmail, but they never show the posts that I 
> made (except in the sent mail folder).

[1], question 14.

Reco

[1] https://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser

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#201647

FromGene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date2018-10-25 23:00 +0200
Message-ID<wMUTv-3uS-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#201636
On Thursday 25 October 2018 15:57:32 rhkramer@gmail.com wrote:

> I usually read mail list posts in kmail, but they never show the posts
> that I made (except in the sent mail folder).
>
> I want to see if a post I sent made it to the list.
>
> I tried going to:
>
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2018/10/thrd2.html
>
> debian-user Oct 2018 by thread
>
> But it says (and has said for at least several minutes):
>
> The last update was on 19:40 GMT Thu Oct 25. There are 859 messages.
> Page 2 of 2.
>
> I think that is about 4 hours behind the current time.
>
> So it is not updating in "real time".
>
> Is there another place to read posts on a browser in closer to real
> time?

A different way around that prickly mulberry tree that gmail is, is to 
subscribe using 2 different names, then post exclusively to one  name, 
and accept for reading, the other name.  The problem is its a cast iron 
bitch to remember to do the posting only via the first name subbed.  The 
echo coming back from a mailing list is seen as a duplicate by gmail and 
is deleted.

Kmail 1.9 can do that theoretically if you set the sending account with a 
sticky bit, but that gets blown away entirely too easily.
So trust but verify before you hit send, or clean house until you only 
have one send profile.

I had a long talk with the google folks about that several years ago and 
found it was not even open for discussion. Some time later they decided 
my tls was not up to their specs, and I have now been using my isp's 
mail server since. I can't say as I miss gmail a bit.  Life at 84 is 
sweet.


-- 
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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