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Where was the discussion of GNOME 3 shipping as the default desktop?

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  Where was the discussion of GNOME 3 shipping as the default desktop? Austin LaBerta <oct2pus@jade.moe> - 2018-10-17 01:00 +0200
    Re: Where was the discussion of GNOME 3 shipping as the default  desktop? Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2018-10-17 12:10 +0200
    Re: Where was the discussion of GNOME 3 shipping as the default  desktop? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-10-17 12:40 +0200

#201343 — Where was the discussion of GNOME 3 shipping as the default desktop?

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Apologies for the baity title but its very literal.

where was it? Google is giving me very poor results, I assume it was
done over mailing list but I'm not even sure where to start lookin. All
I can figure was that it was sometime around Jessie and that XFCE was
the previous desktop. I'm not SUPER interested in Debating why it
should/should not be (and i'd advice starting another thread for that
if you want to shout about how much you hate/love GNOME), I just wanted
to see the reasoning behind the decision.

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#201364 — Re: Where was the discussion of GNOME 3 shipping as the default desktop?

	Hi.

On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 05:58:26PM -0500, Austin LaBerta wrote:
> Apologies for the baity title but its very literal.
> 
> where was it? Google is giving me very poor results, I assume it was
> done over mailing list but I'm not even sure where to start lookin. All
> I can figure was that it was sometime around Jessie and that XFCE was
> the previous desktop.

It was - [1]. Jessie was testing back then, the official reason was - we
need Desktop Environment that fits on first CD.


> I'm not SUPER interested in Debating why it
> should/should not be (and i'd advice starting another thread for that
> if you want to shout about how much you hate/love GNOME), I just wanted
> to see the reasoning behind the decision.

[2] gives two official reasons - 'accessibility' and 'systemd
integration' and four 'less tangible things'.

I haven't searched debian-devel, but the discussion you're looking for
should be there - [3]. I'd start with Jul 2014, following by Aug 2014
and Sep 2014 (the change was made 19th September 2014).

Reco

[1] https://salsa.debian.org/installer-team/tasksel/commit/2a962cc65cdba010177f27e8824ba10d9a799a08
[2] https://salsa.debian.org/installer-team/tasksel/commit/dce99f5f8d84e4c885e6beb4cc1bb5bb1d9ee6d7
[3] https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel

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#201366 — Re: Where was the discussion of GNOME 3 shipping as the default desktop?

On 10/16/2018 05:58 PM, Austin LaBerta wrote:
> Apologies for the baity title but its very literal.
> 
> where was it? Google is giving me very poor results, I assume it was 
> done over mailing list but I'm not even sure where to start lookin.
> [snip]

I can't come close to answering the subject line.
However, maybe I can help with "where to start looking."

My method of attack [which you likely have done some of] would include:
1. In which release was Gnome3 made the default.
2. Look for the release announcement. [establish a late date for
    search].
3. I suspect that searching for the _opening_ of a bug report about
    Gnome might be useful.
4. As the development of MATE was a reaction to the development of
    Gnome3, look for a spike in the discussion of MATE on _Debian_
    mailing lists.

HTH YMMV ;/

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