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  Distinguish instances of GUI file manager by color Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-09-26 12:00 +0200
    Re: Distinguish instances of GUI file manager by color Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-09-26 12:40 +0200
      Re: Distinguish instances of GUI file manager by color Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-09-26 13:10 +0200
        Re: Distinguish instances of GUI file manager by color Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-09-26 13:40 +0200
          Re: Distinguish instances of GUI file manager by color Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-09-26 13:50 +0200
            Re: Distinguish instances of GUI file manager by color Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-09-26 14:50 +0200
            Re: Distinguish instances of GUI file manager by color Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2018-09-26 15:10 +0200
            Re: Distinguish instances of GUI file manager by color Dominic Knight <dominicknight@gmx.com> - 2018-09-27 02:50 +0200
              Re: Distinguish instances of GUI file manager by color Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-09-27 04:50 +0200
            Re: Distinguish instances of GUI file manager by color Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2018-09-27 05:20 +0200
    Re: Distinguish instances of GUI file manager by color "hdv@gmail" <hdv.jadev@gmail.com> - 2018-09-26 13:50 +0200
    Re: Distinguish instances of GUI file manager by color mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2018-09-26 14:00 +0200
      Re: Distinguish instances of GUI file manager by color mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2018-09-26 14:40 +0200
    Re: Distinguish instances of GUI file manager by color didier gaumet <didier.gaumet@gmail.com> - 2018-09-27 09:00 +0200
    UPDATE - was [Re: Distinguish instances of GUI file manager by color] Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-09-27 12:00 +0200

#200632 — Distinguish instances of GUI file manager by color

I'm setting up a new machine and copying files from the old machine's 
home directory. At the same time I'm creating a new directory structure 
to better match how I work.

I found it expedient to have at least three instances of the file 
manager open - [one for source directory and at least two for 
destination (sub)directories].

Suggestions?
Is it even possible?

Brief web search was not encouraging. But my search terms may have been 
the problem. Suggested search terms?

TIA

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#200633

Richard Owlett wrote:
> [...]
> Suggestions?
> Is it even possible?

Never seen that myself.  Wouldn't know where to start, honestly --
perhaps skipping the GUI would be a better option -- maybe something
like mc or one of the other terminal-based managers would be more what
you're looking for?

I mean, mc will do side-by-side of a pair of directories OOTB. 


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#200635

On 09/26/2018 05:26 AM, Dan Purgert wrote:
> Richard Owlett wrote:
>> [...]
>> Suggestions?
>> Is it even possible?
> 
> Never seen that myself.  Wouldn't know where to start, honestly --
> perhaps skipping the GUI would be a better option -- maybe something
> like mc or one of the other terminal-based managers would be more what
> you're looking for?
> 
> I mean, mc will do side-by-side of a pair of directories OOTB.
> 

Hmmm. It may be GUI-enough for my purposes.
http://midnight-commander.org/ describes it as "GNU Midnight Commander 
is a visual file manager...".
Section 3 - Mouse of http://midnight-commander.org/wiki/doc/faq hints 
that it may perhaps have enough mouse functionality (enough qualifiers ;).

Also your phraseology joggled my thought process. Perhaps "file manager" 
hints at much more power than I  need. I only wish to _move_ files. 
Which got me thinking that Tcl/Tk may be appropriate. I'll experiment 
with mc first.

Thank you.

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#200636

Richard Owlett wrote:
> [...]
> Also your phraseology joggled my thought process. Perhaps "file manager" 
> hints at much more power than I  need. I only wish to _move_ files. 
> Which got me thinking that Tcl/Tk may be appropriate. I'll experiment 
> with mc first.

Or perhaps just bash?  Although, your situation may have too many
clauses to really decide how/where something goes easily in a script.

Good luck :)


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#200638

On 09/26/2018 06:24 AM, Dan Purgert wrote:
> Richard Owlett wrote:
>> [...]
>> Also your phraseology joggled my thought process. Perhaps "file manager"
>> hints at much more power than I  need. I only wish to _move_ files.
>> Which got me thinking that Tcl/Tk may be appropriate. I'll experiment
>> with mc first.
> 
> Or perhaps just bash?  Although, your situation may have too many
> clauses to really decide how/where something goes easily in a script.
> 

My essential need for a GUI is to select with a mouse click.
I've just downloaded it and browsed the man page.
I think mc will work.

On my laptop the default font size is unsuitably small.
A quick web search revealed that is not a mc parameter.
It is a function of the terminal emulator used. I have a MATE desktop. 
How do I determine what terminal emulator is in use?

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#200643

Richard Owlett wrote:
> [...]
>
> On my laptop the default font size is unsuitably small.
> A quick web search revealed that is not a mc parameter.
> It is a function of the terminal emulator used. I have a MATE desktop. 
> How do I determine what terminal emulator is in use?

I think it's gnome-terminal; but I haven't used MATE in a while.
Although, I do recall from my time using it, that one could right-click
on the main portion of the window (i.e. where the text is), and you'd
get a context menu that'd let you select the settings (font size, color,
etc.)

NOTE - you may need to do this while mc is not running (IDK if it has
its own interpretation of a right click that may get in the way).


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#200646

Richard Owlett composed on 2018-09-26 06:47 (UTC-0500):

> On my laptop the default font size is unsuitably small.
> A quick web search revealed that is not a mc parameter.
> It is a function of the terminal emulator used. I have a MATE desktop. 
> How do I determine what terminal emulator is in use?

Open the TE first, then do 'mc'. Open as many as you have TEs, and more.

mc is an "OFM" http://www.softpanorama.org/OFM/Paradigm/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_manager#Orthodox_file_managers

I always have multiple mc instances open. I normally have a filecommander
instance open too, filling one virtual desktop. http://silk.apana.org.au/fc.html
Font in it is handled by its own ini file, as are its row and column counts. It
has two different sets of directory hotkeys, one "permanent", one history-based.

In Linux, fc & mc are the only file managers I use. Both are heavily used.
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#200665

On Wed, 2018-09-26 at 06:47 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 09/26/2018 06:24 AM, Dan Purgert wrote:
> > Richard Owlett wrote:
> > > [...]
> > > Also your phraseology joggled my thought process. Perhaps "file
> > > manager"
> > > hints at much more power than I  need. I only wish to _move_
> > > files.
> > > Which got me thinking that Tcl/Tk may be appropriate. I'll
> > > experiment
> > > with mc first.
> > 
> > Or perhaps just bash?  Although, your situation may have too many
> > clauses to really decide how/where something goes easily in a
> > script.
> > 
> 
> My essential need for a GUI is to select with a mouse click.
> I've just downloaded it and browsed the man page.
> I think mc will work.
> 
> On my laptop the default font size is unsuitably small.
> A quick web search revealed that is not a mc parameter.
> It is a function of the terminal emulator used. I have a MATE
> desktop. 
> How do I determine what terminal emulator is in use?
> 
Years ago I used to put this in an ~/.Xresources file that would change
the font sizes for _all_ the terminals.

Xft.dpi: 96
Xft.antialias: true
Xft.rgba: rgb
Xft.hinting: true
Xft.hintstyle: hintslight

Might still do the job for you.

Dom.

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#200666

On 09/26/2018 07:42 PM, Dominic Knight wrote:
> On Wed, 2018-09-26 at 06:47 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
>> On 09/26/2018 06:24 AM, Dan Purgert wrote:
>>> Richard Owlett wrote:
>>>> [...]
>>>> Also your phraseology joggled my thought process. Perhaps "file
>>>> manager"
>>>> hints at much more power than I  need. I only wish to _move_
>>>> files.
>>>> Which got me thinking that Tcl/Tk may be appropriate. I'll
>>>> experiment
>>>> with mc first.
>>>
>>> Or perhaps just bash?  Although, your situation may have too many
>>> clauses to really decide how/where something goes easily in a
>>> script.
>>>
>>
>> My essential need for a GUI is to select with a mouse click.
>> I've just downloaded it and browsed the man page.
>> I think mc will work.
>>
>> On my laptop the default font size is unsuitably small.
>> A quick web search revealed that is not a mc parameter.
>> It is a function of the terminal emulator used. I have a MATE
>> desktop.
>> How do I determine what terminal emulator is in use?
>>
> Years ago I used to put this in an ~/.Xresources file that would change
> the font sizes for _all_ the terminals.
> 
> Xft.dpi: 96
> Xft.antialias: true
> Xft.rgba: rgb
> Xft.hinting: true
> Xft.hintstyle: hintslight
> 
> Might still do the job for you.
> 
> Dom.

It didn't :{
Thanks for trying.
I need a good introductory read on xterm. Too much info in man page. Too 
little in "tutorials".

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#200667

Richard Owlett composed on 2018-09-26 06:47 (UTC-0500):

> On my laptop the default font size is unsuitably small.

My .Xresources makes Xterm fonts nice size:

xterm*faceName: Droid Sans Mono:antialias=true
xterm*faceSize: 11
xterm*vt100.geometry: 120x43
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#200639

On 2018-09-26 11:52, Richard Owlett wrote:
> I'm setting up a new machine and copying files from the old machine's home
> directory. At the same time I'm creating a new directory structure to better
> match how I work.
> 
> I found it expedient to have at least three instances of the file manager open -
> [one for source directory and at least two for destination (sub)directories].
> 
> Suggestions?
> Is it even possible?
> 
> Brief web search was not encouraging. But my search terms may have been the
> problem. Suggested search terms?

I use Krusader for similar purposes. It is like a GUI version of Midnight
Commander (mc). If needed just open multiple instances. When performing actions
within one instance you can do almost everything purely by keyboard, which is
great (to me) and speeds up things as well. No need to grab the mouse all the time.

HTH

Grx HdV

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#200640

On 2018-09-26 10:52, Richard Owlett wrote:
> I'm setting up a new machine and copying files from the old machine's
> home directory. At the same time I'm creating a new directory
> structure to better match how I work.
> 
> I found it expedient to have at least three instances of the file
> manager open - [one for source directory and at least two for
> destination (sub)directories].
> 
> Suggestions?
> Is it even possible?
> 
> Brief web search was not encouraging. But my search terms may have
> been the problem. Suggested search terms?
> 
> TIA

what you want is a GUI. doing all that at the prompt would be a pain.
There doesn't seem to be anything like the nice WinScp for linux but 
what seems to work is 2 instances of thunar.
you'll need ssh / sshd working first I think to have sftp
I always have ssh and sftp seems to be there.

In one instance of thunar type
"sftp://address-of-new-box"
navigate to /home/you and make your new directory structure by right 
clicking.
in the other instance of thunar navigate to the files you want to keep 
and drag them across.
This copies them so you'll need to keep track of what you've done with a 
pencil and paper just to save time.

mick




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#200642

On 2018-09-26 12:58, mick crane wrote:
> On 2018-09-26 10:52, Richard Owlett wrote:
>> I'm setting up a new machine and copying files from the old machine's
>> home directory. At the same time I'm creating a new directory
>> structure to better match how I work.
>> 
>> I found it expedient to have at least three instances of the file
>> manager open - [one for source directory and at least two for
>> destination (sub)directories].
>> 
>> Suggestions?
>> Is it even possible?
>> 
>> Brief web search was not encouraging. But my search terms may have
>> been the problem. Suggested search terms?
>> 
>> TIA
> 
> what you want is a GUI. doing all that at the prompt would be a pain.
> There doesn't seem to be anything like the nice WinScp for linux but
> what seems to work is 2 instances of thunar.
> you'll need ssh / sshd working first I think to have sftp
> I always have ssh and sftp seems to be there.
> 
> In one instance of thunar type
> "sftp://address-of-new-box"
> navigate to /home/you and make your new directory structure by right 
> clicking.
> in the other instance of thunar navigate to the files you want to keep
> and drag them across.
> This copies them so you'll need to keep track of what you've done with
> a pencil and paper just to save time.

perhaps better is to copy the whole lot across as above to a temp 
directory on the new machine then with 2 instances of thunar on the new 
machine the files will disappear from the source directory as you drag 
them across so you know what you've done.

mick






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#200668

Gnome-Commander (packaged in Debian) could be of interest for you: GUI
but two-panel mc-like, several color themes, color set-up, advanced
search and rename tools, etc...
 https://gcmd.github.io/shots.html

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#200670 — UPDATE - was [Re: Distinguish instances of GUI file manager by color]

On 09/26/2018 04:52 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
> I'm setting up a new machine and copying files from the old machine's 
> home directory. At the same time I'm creating a new directory structure 
> to better match how I work.
> 
> I found it expedient to have at least three instances of the file 
> manager open - [one for source directory and at least two for 
> destination (sub)directories].
> 
> Suggestions?
> Is it even possible?
> 
> Brief web search was not encouraging. But my search terms may have been 
> the problem. Suggested search terms?
> 
> TIA

I asked related questions on a LUG list and a Tcl/Tk group.
Suggestions tended to lead to a two pane file manager.
Having followed multiple chains of links caused me to rethink my work 
flow simplifying use of my current file manager (Caja).

Long term, I'll pursue a two pane solution.
I've installed Krusader and GNOME Commander for testing.

A chain of links led to 'filerunner' 
[https://sourceforge.net/projects/filerunner/] which I downloaded and am 
reading the documentation to chose which options to initially chose.

Usage appears to be intuitive - at least for my work style.
It is intrinsically highly configurable.
It is written in Tcl/Tk allowing/encouraging further customization.

It will likely be my long term solution.

Thanks for all the links.

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