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trouble installing deb 9.4

Started byDave <debiantechquestions@gmx.com>
First post2018-06-18 04:00 +0200
Last post2018-06-21 05:50 +0200
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  trouble installing deb 9.4 Dave <debiantechquestions@gmx.com> - 2018-06-18 04:00 +0200
    Re: trouble installing deb 9.4 HP Garcia <portamex@garlic.com> - 2018-06-18 09:00 +0200
    Re: trouble installing deb 9.4 Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2018-06-18 16:50 +0200
      Re: trouble installing deb 9.4 Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-06-18 17:10 +0200
        Re: trouble installing deb 9.4 Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2018-06-18 20:00 +0200
          Re: trouble installing deb 9.4 Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 01:10 +0200
            Re: trouble installing deb 9.4 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@surfnaked.ca> - 2018-06-21 01:50 +0200
              Re: trouble installing deb 9.4 Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2018-06-21 05:50 +0200

#196741 — trouble installing deb 9.4

FromDave <debiantechquestions@gmx.com>
Date2018-06-18 04:00 +0200
Subjecttrouble installing deb 9.4
Message-ID<w1RCx-89j-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
I have having trouble getting thru the first screen "UEFI Installer". on 
this first menu i have full keyboard control.

Once i choose one of the Sections IE: Graphical Install, Install, 
Advanced Options

once the screen switches i loose all keyboard and mouse control, then i 
must reboot to get back to the UEFI screen.


please advise.


Dave

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#196742

FromHP Garcia <portamex@garlic.com>
Date2018-06-18 09:00 +0200
Message-ID<w1WiS-2x6-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#196741
On Sun, 17 Jun 2018 21:56:02 -0400
Dave <debiantechquestions@gmx.com> wrote:

> I have having trouble getting thru the first screen "UEFI Installer".
> on this first menu i have full keyboard control.
> 
> Once i choose one of the Sections IE: Graphical Install, Install, 
> Advanced Options
> 
> once the screen switches i loose all keyboard and mouse control, then
> i must reboot to get back to the UEFI screen.
> 
> 
> please advise.
> 
> 
> Dave
> 
What is your computer specs?

-- 
HP Garcia KM6JBI
www.HPGPhotography.com

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#196754

FromPatrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-18 16:50 +0200
Message-ID<w23DH-6OG-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#196741
On Sun, 17 Jun 2018 21:56:02 -0400
Dave <debiantechquestions@gmx.com> wrote:

> I have having trouble getting thru the first screen "UEFI Installer".
> on this first menu i have full keyboard control.
> 
> Once i choose one of the Sections IE: Graphical Install, Install, 
> Advanced Options
> 
> once the screen switches i loose all keyboard and mouse control, then
> i must reboot to get back to the UEFI screen.
> 
> 
> please advise.

Are there other OSes installed?  Are they UEFI or MBR types? Does
your system support UEFI? You can't mix UEFI and MBR.  It's either one
or the other.

B

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#196755

FromGene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net>
Date2018-06-18 17:10 +0200
Message-ID<w23X3-79V-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#196754
On Monday 18 June 2018 10:42:22 Patrick Bartek wrote:

> On Sun, 17 Jun 2018 21:56:02 -0400
>
> Dave <debiantechquestions@gmx.com> wrote:
> > I have having trouble getting thru the first screen "UEFI
> > Installer". on this first menu i have full keyboard control.
> >
> > Once i choose one of the Sections IE: Graphical Install, Install,
> > Advanced Options
> >
> > once the screen switches i loose all keyboard and mouse control,
> > then i must reboot to get back to the UEFI screen.
> >
> >
> > please advise.
>
> Are there other OSes installed?  Are they UEFI or MBR types? Does
> your system support UEFI? You can't mix UEFI and MBR.  It's either one
> or the other.
>
I doubt it that has anything to do with it. More than likely its not 
loaded enough stuff to service his usb keyboard or mouse. Might have to 
plug in a real ps2 keyboard to drive it at that point.
> B



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#196756

FromPascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org>
Date2018-06-18 20:00 +0200
Message-ID<w26BA-6I-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#196755
Le 18/06/2018 à 17:04, Gene Heskett a écrit :
> On Monday 18 June 2018 10:42:22 Patrick Bartek wrote:
> 
>> On Sun, 17 Jun 2018 21:56:02 -0400
>>
>> Dave <debiantechquestions@gmx.com> wrote:
>>> I have having trouble getting thru the first screen "UEFI
>>> Installer". on this first menu i have full keyboard control.
>>>
>>> Once i choose one of the Sections IE: Graphical Install, Install,
>>> Advanced Options
>>>
>>> once the screen switches i loose all keyboard and mouse control,

Switches to what ? Kernel boot ?

>>  Does your system support UEFI?

Of course it does. Otherwise the Debian installer would not boot in EFI 
mode.

>> You can't mix UEFI and MBR.  It's either one or the other.

Actually you can. The Debian installer can boot either in legacy BIOS or 
native EFI mode. So does a Debian system when installed properly.

> I doubt it that has anything to do with it. More than likely its not
> loaded enough stuff to service his usb keyboard or mouse. Might have to
> plug in a real ps2 keyboard to drive it at that point.

External PS/2 devices are becoming rare these days.
I have seen this kind of behaviour on a laptop which with integrated 
PS/2 keyboard and touchpad. The PS/2 controller required an additional 
kernel parameter in order to operate properly. Sorry, I can't remember 
exactly which one, just it was i8042.something.

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#196788

FromPatrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-20 01:10 +0200
Message-ID<w2xV7-8n5-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#196756
On Mon, 18 Jun 2018 19:52:32 +0200
Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> wrote:

> > On Monday 18 June 2018 10:42:22 Patrick Bartek wrote:
> [snip]
> 
> >> You can't mix UEFI and MBR.  It's either one or the other.  
> 
> Actually you can. The Debian installer can boot either in legacy BIOS
> or native EFI mode. So does a Debian system when installed properly.

Good to know there's been progress.  Last time I researched this
option when installing Wheezy (5 years ago) on a multi-boot set up that
was all MBR, it was not recommended to mix-n-match. I had Windows XP as
one of the OSes, too.

That system is still alive and well though the hardware has been
upgraded numerous times, and only holds two OSes now -- Wheezy and
Stretch, it's still MBR  It was juat easier to install Stretch that
way even though I chainload it off Wheezy's grub. (I prefer to keep OS
grubs separate.) Plus, I had no real need of the features that UEFI
offers. KISS -- Keep It Simple, Stupid.

FWIW: I run old XP in a VM now.  Actually, it performs better than
running it natively.

B

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#196816

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@surfnaked.ca>
Date2018-06-21 01:50 +0200
Message-ID<w2V1o-7hf-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#196788
On 19/06/18 04:00 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:

> FWIW: I run old XP in a VM now.  Actually, it performs better than
> running it natively.

You too?  I also run XP in a VM, and file I/O is wonderfully fast.  Even 
though XP thinks it's working with NTFS, on the metal it's actually a 
Linux file system (in my case ext4), and that gives it a performance edge.

-- 
cgibbs@surfnaked.ca (Charlie Gibbs)

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#196826

FromPatrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-21 05:50 +0200
Message-ID<w2YLD-11C-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#196816
On Wed, 20 Jun 2018 16:40:37 -0700
Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@surfnaked.ca> wrote:

> On 19/06/18 04:00 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> 
> > FWIW: I run old XP in a VM now.  Actually, it performs better than
> > running it natively.  
> 
> You too?  I also run XP in a VM, and file I/O is wonderfully fast.
> Even though XP thinks it's working with NTFS, on the metal it's
> actually a Linux file system (in my case ext4), and that gives it a
> performance edge.

Plus now XP runs better, snappier in the VM in Stretch than it did in
Wheezy. Same box. Not a lot, but enough to notice. Was somewhat
surprised with that. Wasn't a reinstall either. Just followed
VirtualBox's instructions to transfer virtual drive, etc. from Wheezy to
Stretch. No troubleshooting or tweaking needed.

B  

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