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  Debian 9 rocks, really Andre Rodier <andre@rodier.me> - 2018-03-24 23:40 +0100
    Re: Debian 9 rocks, really Forest <forest.feighner@gmail.com> - 2018-03-24 23:50 +0100
    Re: Debian 9 rocks, really Boyan Penkov <boyan.penkov@gmail.com> - 2018-03-24 23:50 +0100
    Re: Debian 9 rocks, really Dan Norton <dnorton@mindspring.com> - 2018-03-25 00:30 +0100
    Re: Debian 9 rocks, really Dominik George <nik@naturalnet.de> - 2018-03-25 00:40 +0100
    Re: Debian 9 rocks, really Mart van de Wege <mvdwege@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 10:30 +0200
      Re: Debian 9 rocks, really Mark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com> - 2018-03-27 04:40 +0200
    Re: Debian 9 rocks, really mark@neidorff.com - 2018-08-14 22:50 +0200

#194137 — Debian 9 rocks, really

Hello all,

I have been using Linux since more than 20 years, and Debian Linux since 
Potato. I even remember the time when you had to carefully read the 
documentation of your monitor to avoid damaging it, by choosing the 
wrong frequencies for the X server.

I am using a lot of computers, from small workstations to big servers in 
data centres or in the clouds, like Rackspace, AWS or Google cloud. If 
you are a little bit careful with the question asked, and have a minimum 
of IT knowledge, the Debian installer is wonderful. It always give you 
the control if something goes wrong, for instance by activating another 
console.

The task selection concept is great, for those who want to install their 
favourite desktop environment easily. I love the fact that multiple DE 
are given, and I can install and try more than one.

I recently re-discovered preseed, and I really enjoy it as well.

Thank you for making my life easier, and my work so beneficial. Debian 
people are really a great team !!!

André Rodier.

-- 
https://github.com/progmaticltd/homebox

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#194138

On Sat, 2018-03-24 at 22:31 +0000, Andre Rodier wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> 
> 
> Thank you for making my life easier, and my work so beneficial.
> Debian 
> people are really a great team !!!
> 
> André Rodier.
> 

I concur. It's come a long way and is treat to use.

Forest

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#194139

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Hahahaha -- +1, for me, for what's turning out to be a very entertaining 
weekend...

Introduced to Debian in 2003, stayed on it though 2008, then Ubuntu for 
a while but defaulting to Debian full time for the past few years....

A particular moment to send thanks to the community and to these lists, 
for teaching me more than I could imagine to know about the whole 
system, from all sorts of interesting nooks and crannies to some of the 
fundamental design features of a well-maintained distribution.  
Especially in light of recent events concerning the way the consequences 
of our seemingly trivial computer use can be manipulated in opaque ways, 
a deeper commitment to really understanding how some of these systems 
work is all the more important, and engaging with open systems and a 
building a responsive community becomes more critical.

So yeah -- maybe some haters, but full speed ahead, to Buster and beyond!

On 03/24/2018 06:31 PM, Andre Rodier wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I have been using Linux since more than 20 years, and Debian Linux 
> since Potato. I even remember the time when you had to carefully read 
> the documentation of your monitor to avoid damaging it, by choosing 
> the wrong frequencies for the X server.
>
> I am using a lot of computers, from small workstations to big servers 
> in data centres or in the clouds, like Rackspace, AWS or Google cloud. 
> If you are a little bit careful with the question asked, and have a 
> minimum of IT knowledge, the Debian installer is wonderful. It always 
> give you the control if something goes wrong, for instance by 
> activating another console.
>
> The task selection concept is great, for those who want to install 
> their favourite desktop environment easily. I love the fact that 
> multiple DE are given, and I can install and try more than one.
>
> I recently re-discovered preseed, and I really enjoy it as well.
>
> Thank you for making my life easier, and my work so beneficial. Debian 
> people are really a great team !!!
>
> André Rodier.
>

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#194140

On Sat, 24 Mar 2018 22:31:11 +0000
Andre Rodier <andre@rodier.me> wrote:

> Hello all,
> 
> I have been using Linux since more than 20 years, and Debian Linux
> since Potato. I even remember the time when you had to carefully read
> the documentation of your monitor to avoid damaging it, by choosing
> the wrong frequencies for the X server.
> 
> I am using a lot of computers, from small workstations to big servers
> in data centres or in the clouds, like Rackspace, AWS or Google
> cloud. If you are a little bit careful with the question asked, and
> have a minimum of IT knowledge, the Debian installer is wonderful. It
> always give you the control if something goes wrong, for instance by
> activating another console.
> 
> The task selection concept is great, for those who want to install
> their favourite desktop environment easily. I love the fact that
> multiple DE are given, and I can install and try more than one.
> 
> I recently re-discovered preseed, and I really enjoy it as well.
> 
> Thank you for making my life easier, and my work so beneficial.
> Debian people are really a great team !!!
> 

Indeed they are, and patient, by and large. Amazing - considering they
have to put up with people like me :-)

I don't even want to think about having to run my desktop without
Debian.
 
 - Dan

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On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 10:31:11PM +0000, Andre Rodier wrote:
> […]

Yeah! I've not come such a long way yet, considering I am only 27 years
old, but I have been using Linux systems for 14 years now. Started with
SuSE 7.2 (with a short visit to 5.3 for fun), switched to Ubuntu later
and the nto Gentoo for a few years, until arriving at Debian many years
ago.

Watching Debian's development (and contributing to it) is a great joy -
while some time ago there were valid reasons for creating Ubuntu, and
users had reasons to consider Debian outdated and complicated, all that
is gone now. Take a Debian 9 installer (in some cases, maybe the
non-free firmware version), and it installs on the most awkward of
hardware without complaining. If it doesn't, just fix it, because it
gives you everything you need to do so.

Most important, Debian is the distribution that kept me satisfied for
long enough that I am now a developer (keyring update pending ;)). I
lost track of becoming one with Gentoo, because they were cool but did
not have good quality assurance, and I los ttrack at SuSE because they
had great quality but the community was questionnable (that changed by
now, mind you) - Debian has the best of both worlds, a great community,
great tools, and QA anddevelopment tools that make it fun to work with
and still get respected in enterprise environments.

So thank you, Debian!

Cheers,
Nik

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#194173

Andre Rodier <andre@rodier.me> writes:

> Hello all,
>
> I have been using Linux since more than 20 years, and Debian Linux
> since Potato.

Same here. I started out on Red Hat 6.2, and discovered Debian when it
was on potato. I've been using some flavour of Debian personally since,
and some flavour of it or RH professionally.

I love it. It's been great consistently, and 9 really shines. I even
like systemd although I have some reservations about its design (I think
it's a bit over-engineered).

Debian 9 give me dev tools, and tools to manage service resources better
than ever. It's a lovely base system.

Mart

-- 
"We will need a longer wall when the revolution comes."
--- AJS, quoting an uncertain source.

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#194193

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 10:06:17AM +0200, Mart van de Wege wrote:
> Andre Rodier <andre@rodier.me> writes:
> 
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I have been using Linux since more than 20 years, and Debian Linux
> > since Potato.
> 
> Same here. I started out on Red Hat 6.2, and discovered Debian when it
> was on potato. I've been using some flavour of Debian personally since,
> and some flavour of it or RH professionally.
> 
> I love it. It's been great consistently, and 9 really shines. I even
> like systemd although I have some reservations about its design (I think
> it's a bit over-engineered).
> 
> Debian 9 give me dev tools, and tools to manage service resources better
> than ever. It's a lovely base system.
> 

#metoo , in a good way!

I started with Debian in 1996 -- the lovely Stephen Early, whom I 
occasionally see on this list, may have "fond" memories of porting the 
source code for the 1.3 development kernel onto my machine on floppy 
disks so he could help me get my brand spanking new ethernet card 
working! Yeah, probably not that fond memories...

In those days I dual-booted Windows and Debian. I was away for a few 
years after uni and then had a brief affair with SuSE but we don't 
talk about that in polite company. Came back to Debian when Woody was 
stable and been running Debian as the only OS on the box ever since. (I 
still run Windows but only in VMs, very much a minority use case for me 
now)

Over the years I have oscillated between the stable distribution and 
whatever was testing at the time. Now I run both, stretch on machines 
that are doing important stuff and buster to see what is coming.

As others have said, the combination of the philosophy, the dedication 
of the team, and the community make this a great way to spend one's 
computer's time. I love it.

Mark

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#198791

On Saturday, March 24, 2018 6:31:11 PM EDT Andre Rodier wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> I have been using Linux since more than 20 years, and Debian Linux since
> Potato. I even remember the time when you had to carefully read the
> documentation of your monitor to avoid damaging it, by choosing the
> wrong frequencies for the X server.
> 
> André Rodier.

Hello Andre,
I don't know if you are aware, but there is a large group of things which are 
listed as *something*rocks.  A couple of examples:  I have used qmailrocks to 
help setup a mail server, linuxrocks.online is out there.... (and many 
others).  I just don't want to see anyone getting in trouble by being 
innocent.

Mark

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