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Debian 9 sucks really badly

Started byChris Anderson <candersonmax@yahoo.com.au>
First post2018-03-24 04:50 +0100
Last post2018-03-24 20:10 +0100
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  Debian 9 sucks really badly Chris Anderson <candersonmax@yahoo.com.au> - 2018-03-24 04:50 +0100
    Re: Debian 9 sucks really badly Forest <forest.feighner@gmail.com> - 2018-03-24 05:10 +0100
      Re: Debian 9 sucks really badly "Michelle Konzack" <linux4michelle@tamay-dogan.net> - 2018-03-24 05:40 +0100
    Re: Debian 9 sucks really badly "Michelle Konzack" <linux4michelle@tamay-dogan.net> - 2018-03-24 05:40 +0100
    Re: Debian 9 sucks really badly mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2018-03-24 11:40 +0100
    Re: Debian 9 sucks really badly Carl <carlf@panix.com> - 2018-03-24 12:30 +0100
      Re: Debian 9 sucks really badly Dominik George <nik@naturalnet.de> - 2018-03-24 12:50 +0100
        Re: Debian 9 sucks really badly deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2018-03-24 13:50 +0100
          Re: Debian 9 sucks really badly Dominik George <nik@naturalnet.de> - 2018-03-24 14:10 +0100
      Re: Debian 9 sucks really badly Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> - 2018-03-24 15:40 +0100
    Re: Debian 9 sucks really badly Eduardo M KALINOWSKI <eduardo@kalinowski.com.br> - 2018-03-24 12:50 +0100
    Re: Debian 9 sucks really badly songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2018-03-24 13:00 +0100
    Re: Debian 9 sucks really badly Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2018-03-24 13:20 +0100
    Re: Debian 9 sucks really badly deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2018-03-24 13:50 +0100
    Re: Debian 9 sucks really badly Eike Lantzsch <zp6cge@gmx.net> - 2018-03-24 14:50 +0100
      Re: Debian 9 sucks really badly André Verwijs <dutch.glory@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-24 15:40 +0100
    Re: Debian 9 sucks really badly Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2018-03-24 15:40 +0100
    Re: Debian 9 sucks really badly Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2018-03-24 16:00 +0100
      Re: Debian 9 sucks really badly Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2018-03-24 19:30 +0100
        Re: Debian 9 sucks really badly Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2018-03-24 19:40 +0100
          Re: Debian 9 sucks really badly Fekete Tamás <fektom@gmail.com> - 2018-03-24 20:40 +0100
            Re: Debian 9 sucks really badly Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-03-24 22:10 +0100
        Re: Debian 9 sucks really badly Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-03-25 13:20 +0200
    Re: Debian 9 sucks really badly Abdullah Ramazanoglu <ar018@yahoo.com> - 2018-03-24 20:10 +0100

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#194135

FromFekete Tamás <fektom@gmail.com>
Date2018-03-24 20:40 +0100
Message-ID<vwXbb-1EI-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#194133

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To the original sender (Chris Anderson),

we have a huge community.
If you don't feel comfortable with this product switch back to something
which better fit to your needs.

And stop telling us that the OS is crap. In turn, you made the impression
that you are a negative person, but just because of this I will not go to
your home and your neighborhood to tell you are a(n) ...........

- Tamas Fekete

2018-03-24 19:35 GMT+01:00 Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk>:

> On Sat, 24 Mar 2018 14:26:38 -0400
> Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> wrote:
>
> Hello Roberto,
>
> >good responses are better than nothing in this case.
>
> Good arguments, but I'm afraid vague won't do for help in the future.
> Things will have changed, including Debian's installer.
>
> One thing does ring out loud and clear, though:  Help is available, no
> matter what.  In that sense, a win.
>
> --
>  Regards  _
>          / )           "The blindingly obvious is
>         / _)rad        never immediately apparent"
> I hope I live to relive the days gone by
> Old Before I Die - Robbie Williams
>

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#194136

FromCurt <curty@free.fr>
Date2018-03-24 22:10 +0100
Message-ID<vwYAh-2FP-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#194135
On 2018-03-24, Fekete Tamás <fektom@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> And stop telling us that the OS is crap. In turn, you made the impression
> that you are a negative person, but just because of this I will not go to
> your home and your neighborhood to tell you are a(n) ...........
>

It's only water off a penguin's back.

And the penguin's back!

-- 
Bah, the latest news, the latest news is not the last.
Samuel Beckett

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#194146

FromRichard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net>
Date2018-03-25 13:20 +0200
Message-ID<vxbQS-3ec-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#194132
On 03/24/2018 01:26 PM, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 02:51:27PM +0000, Brad Rogers wrote:
>> Why is anybody replying to this?
>>
>> It's quite clearly a drive-by complaint.  The OP is *not* going to
>> listen to advice or hear offers of help.  They won't get them - they're
>> not subbed to the list.
>>
> There are those who will read this thread months or years down the line.
> [SNIP]

To emphasize an under appreciated value of this list and how archived:
"There are those who will read this thread *MONTHS OR YEARS* down the line."

I have a local archive of this list for that reason. It allows using 
booleans in a personally convenient way. SeaMonkey allows me to tag 
posts as I read/re-read them with appropriate tag(s) to ease searching.

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#194134

FromAbdullah Ramazanoglu <ar018@yahoo.com>
Date2018-03-24 20:10 +0100
Message-ID<vwWI9-1ud-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#194103
On Sat, 24 Mar 2018 14:01:13 +1030 Chris Anderson said:

> Hello

Hi,
 
> Last week I bought a new PC and decided to try debian so I downloaded 
> the DVD version 9 and performed a fresh install besides windows 10. 
> Right from the off, it fucked up, Grubb was a hassle as this was the 
> default boot loader,(I have always used LILO), it would not find the 
> windows partition, I managed to fix this. Then it didn't give me a 
> choice of X windows manager, I was stuck with KDE, which I am
> familiar with and am aware of its may limitations and given the
> choice I wouldn't use KDE for installation and configuration.
> 
> Nearly everything fucked up from the Network install to the gcc make 
> command, what a hassle and after spending nearly a week trying to get
> it all working I've had enough and am not wasting any more of my time
> on this awful software.

My experience with Debian was quite on the contrary, though. I had
downloaded only Stable (Stretch) DVD#1 image and intalled offline from
that. Grub recognized and created a bott menu entry for every other OS
in my dual hard disks. I had selected Xfce as the desktop. And
everything went as smooth as it can possibly be. Later on, I went
online and did update + upgrade, which too went without issues.

Granted, my desktop is 7 years old so all the drivers and firmware were
already included in the base system, so I didn't have to download the
latest unofficial firmware collection from
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/firmware/
as explained in
https://wiki.debian.org/Firmware

Then I proceeded to upgrade Debian Stable (Stretch) to Testing
(Buster), and from then on I am occasionally experiencing minor and
temporary hiccups here and there, which is natural and expected in the
testing branch. I am happy with testing on two fronts:

(1) I get to use the latest program versions (which are important for
young and fast developing projects like LXQt, Qupzilla, etc.) and,

(2) I get the opportunity of modest contribution to development by my
occasional bug reports.

Regards
-- 
Abdullah Ramazanoglu

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