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  fvwm -- undeserved BAD PRESS Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-02-27 11:00 +0100
    Re: fvwm -- undeserved BAD PRESS John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-02-27 15:10 +0100
    Re: fvwm -- undeserved BAD PRESS David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-02-27 15:20 +0100

#193149 — fvwm -- undeserved BAD PRESS

I have days (errrr actually hours) of experience with fvwm.
Experts (<chuckle>) are telling me that significant mods to config files 
*MANDATORY*. bull!!!!!!!!!!

Can tweaking config file(s) be profitable? -- Sure!
Are they necessary? -- *NO WAY*!!!!!

The more I ask for meek user info (and receive *GEEK*speak), the more 
impressed I am with just how useful it can be *WITHOUT* any tweaks.

I'll admit to two mods:
  1. disposed of atrocious wallpaper.
  2. coerced visible font size suitable for tri-focal wearing
     SeniorCitizen.

I'll continue to ask for "end user" oriented documentation.
I'll continue to drool over Geek Tweaks I get.

I'll continue to be impressed with what can be accomplished with fvsm -- 
"out of the box".

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#193156

Richard Owlett writes:
> I have days (errrr actually hours) of experience with fvwm.
> Experts (<chuckle>) are telling me that significant mods to config files
> *MANDATORY*. bull!!!!!!!!!!

> Can tweaking config file(s) be profitable? -- Sure!
> Are they necessary? -- *NO WAY*!!!!!

Actually, you can use X with no window manager at all.  It's weird and
awkward, but it works.

But you've already started tweaking your fvwm config.  That's how it
works.  In a couple of years yours will be just as ornate as ours.

BTW I recently learned that the way to control Firefox is to call it
Gecko in Style commands.  It's a PITA because it ignores the standard X
command line arguments such as "-geometry", tries to be "clever" about
placing itself, and uses its title as a message window.
Style Gecko IgnoreGravity,  !UsePPosition
seems to beat it into submission.

-- 
John Hasler 
jhasler@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA

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#193157

On Tue 27 Feb 2018 at 03:58:30 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote:
> I have days (errrr actually hours) of experience with fvwm.
> Experts (<chuckle>) are telling me that significant mods to config
> files *MANDATORY*. bull!!!!!!!!!!
> 
> Can tweaking config file(s) be profitable? -- Sure!
> Are they necessary? -- *NO WAY*!!!!!

I worked long into the night :) to let you know this
in a posting 6 hours before you wrote this.

> The more I ask for meek user info (and receive *GEEK*speak), the
> more impressed I am with just how useful it can be *WITHOUT* any
> tweaks.

Bear in mind that fvwm has been around for this entire millennium
so it must be doing something right.

> I'll admit to two mods:
>  1. disposed of atrocious wallpaper.

I agree. It's easy to have different pictures every time you start/
restart it if you like (desktops), and I use a dynamic background
colour (laptops) that gives me the battery state and warns if the
temperature exceeds 80/85°C.

>  2. coerced visible font size suitable for tri-focal wearing
>     SeniorCitizen.
> 
> I'll continue to ask for "end user" oriented documentation.
> I'll continue to drool over Geek Tweaks I get.
> 
> I'll continue to be impressed with what can be accomplished with
> fv[w]m -- "out of the box".

Great.

Cheers,
David.

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