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need help on cracking wireless password

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  need help on cracking wireless password Long Wind <longwind2@yahoo.com> - 2018-02-23 23:00 +0100
    Re: need help on cracking wireless password Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2018-02-24 08:20 +0100
    Re: need help on cracking wireless password deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2018-02-24 08:50 +0100
      Re: need help on cracking wireless password Long Wind <longwind2@yahoo.com> - 2018-02-24 10:10 +0100
        Re: need help on cracking wireless password "Michelle Konzack" <linux4michelle@tamay-dogan.net> - 2018-02-24 10:30 +0100
          Re: need help on cracking wireless password deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2018-02-24 10:40 +0100
            Re: need help on cracking wireless password <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-02-24 10:40 +0100
              Re: need help on cracking wireless password "Michelle Konzack" <linux4michelle@tamay-dogan.net> - 2018-02-24 11:00 +0100
                Re: need help on cracking wireless password <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-02-24 11:00 +0100
              Re: need help on cracking wireless password deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2018-02-24 12:00 +0100
            Re: need help on cracking wireless password "Michelle Konzack" <linux4michelle@tamay-dogan.net> - 2018-02-24 11:00 +0100
              Re: need help on cracking wireless password deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2018-02-24 12:10 +0100
                Re: need help on cracking wireless password "Michelle Konzack" <linux4michelle@tamay-dogan.net> - 2018-02-24 12:40 +0100
                  Re: need help on cracking wireless password deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2018-02-24 13:30 +0100
                    Re: need help on cracking wireless password "Michelle Konzack" <linux4michelle@tamay-dogan.net> - 2018-02-24 13:40 +0100
                      Re: need help on cracking wireless password deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2018-02-24 16:30 +0100
                        Re: need help on cracking wireless password Wilko Fokken <wfokken@web.de> - 2018-02-27 03:10 +0100
                          Re: need help on cracking wireless password deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2018-02-27 08:20 +0100
                            Re: need help on cracking wireless password "Michelle Konzack" <linux4michelle@tamay-dogan.net> - 2018-02-27 09:00 +0100
                              Re: need help on cracking wireless password deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2018-02-27 19:00 +0100
                                Re: need help on cracking wireless password zoopeen33@mail2tor.com - 2018-02-27 19:30 +0100
                                  Re: need help on cracking wireless password deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2018-02-27 20:50 +0100
          Re: need help on cracking wireless password <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-02-24 10:40 +0100
          Re: need help on cracking wireless password John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-02-24 17:20 +0100
            Re: need help on cracking wireless password "Michelle Konzack" <linux4michelle@tamay-dogan.net> - 2018-02-24 17:30 +0100
              Re: need help on cracking wireless password John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-02-24 18:00 +0100
                Re: need help on cracking wireless password "Michelle Konzack" <linux4michelle@tamay-dogan.net> - 2018-02-24 21:40 +0100
        Re: need help on cracking wireless password Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2018-02-24 20:40 +0100
          Re: need help on cracking wireless password deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2018-02-24 21:00 +0100
          Re: need help on cracking wireless password Long Wind <longwind2@yahoo.com> - 2018-02-24 23:00 +0100
            Re: need help on cracking wireless password Jason <electron@emypeople.net> - 2018-02-25 05:40 +0100
              Re: need help on cracking wireless password John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-02-25 05:50 +0100
                Re: need help on cracking wireless password Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@surfnaked.ca> - 2018-02-26 18:00 +0100
              Re: need help on cracking wireless password Long Wind <longwind2@yahoo.com> - 2018-02-25 08:50 +0100
                Re: need help on cracking wireless password Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> - 2018-02-25 12:20 +0100
                  Re: need help on cracking wireless password "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2018-02-25 14:30 +0100
                    Re: need help on cracking wireless password <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-02-25 14:40 +0100
            Re: need help on cracking wireless password deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2018-02-25 11:10 +0100
              Re: need help on cracking wireless password <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-02-25 11:40 +0100
                Re: need help on cracking wireless password John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-02-25 17:40 +0100
                  Re: need help on cracking wireless password <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-02-26 09:20 +0100
              Re: need help on cracking wireless password Long Wind <longwind2@yahoo.com> - 2018-02-25 11:50 +0100
                Re: need help on cracking wireless password deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2018-02-25 16:40 +0100
              Re: need help on cracking wireless password Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@surfnaked.ca> - 2018-02-26 18:00 +0100
                Re: need help on cracking wireless password Luis Speciale <lspeciale@gmail.com> - 2018-02-26 18:10 +0100
              Re: need help on cracking wireless password Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2018-02-26 18:40 +0100
    Re: need help on cracking wireless password Long Wind <longwind2@yahoo.com> - 2018-02-24 11:30 +0100

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#193176

From	zoopeen33@mail2tor.com
Date	2018-02-27 19:30 +0100
Message-ID	<vnSaK-cw-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#193171

> Michelle Konzack wrote:
>
>
>>
>> Do you think the USA are better?
>>
>
> No I don't think it is better
>
>> There are currently several 100 prisoners wihout trial in internation
>> camps, Jornalists are disappearing, several enqueters are kiulled in
>> different occasions... 911? Sadam and WMD? All are liar!
>>
>> And what is this current extra terrest shit?  USA, Russia, China?
>> I am ex french military and menaced by the french government to shutup!
>> I know a little bit more then you can imagine and what happen to me
>> between 1983 and 2007 is definitively beyoud your mind!
>>
>> 1000s of files classified! (only in France)
>>
>> What about China, USA, Russia?
>>
>> They are planing to enslave the WHOLE planet!
>
> Who are they? And by the way I think this is the wrong place to comment.
>
> you can share experience and thoughts on my mail directly. I would love to
> know more.
>
> I can share what I have experienced between 87 and 2017. It might be not
> so
> mindblowing as your experience, but I do not have any illusions regarding
> the situation in which mankind is ATM.
>
> regards
>
>
>
and i, i thing that is the right place _ it is not a french
place/mailing-list _ and sending mail to a gmail adress is not recommended
- use pgp please for private & confidential correspondence.
Remember : Michelle Konzack is on a high threat mode and she felt in
danger and i trust her.

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#193188

From	deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com>
Date	2018-02-27 20:50 +0100
Message-ID	<vnTqa-Yn-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#193176

zoopeen33@mail2tor.com wrote:

> and i, i thing that is the right place _ it is not a french
> place/mailing-list _ and sending mail to a gmail adress is not recommended
> - use pgp please for private & confidential correspondence.
> Remember : Michelle Konzack is on a high threat mode and she felt in
> danger and i trust her.

no it is not the right place here as it has nothing to do with debian and
with user issues.
Why would be mail2tor.com different than gmail?
if you contact me on the email, you may get another email, where you can
encrypt your message.

regards

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#193024

From	<tomas@tuxteam.de>
Date	2018-02-24 10:40 +0100
Message-ID	<vmEtb-lT-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#193022

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On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 11:25:05AM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote:

[...]

> My mailservers are hit every day by several 100.000 spams from china.
> If there is now law, it seems death penalty is the only solution!
> 
> The financial damages spamers and hackers produce, is much  higher  then
> the extermination of chinese criminals.

I take issue with those both things. Even when meant ironically (that
doesn't come across too well in mails, y'know) they ain't funny.

Cheers
- -- t
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#193045

From	John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com>
Date	2018-02-24 17:20 +0100
Message-ID	<vmKIh-4km-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#193022

Michelle Konzack writes:
> I was attacked by honny pots of the NSA!

How can you be attacked by a honey pot?
-- 
John Hasler 
jhasler@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA

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#193047

From	"Michelle Konzack" <linux4michelle@tamay-dogan.net>
Date	2018-02-24 17:30 +0100
Message-ID	<vmKRY-4nl-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#193045

Am 2018-02-24 hackte John Hasler in die Tasten:
> Michelle Konzack writes:
>> I was attacked by honny pots of the NSA!
>
> How can you be attacked by a honey pot?

The start a DOS or a hack attemped and if your
system start defending, you are traped...

They claim you have violated the security of an IT infrastructure
(in my case an US nuclear facility) and kick your server off with
the help of your local law enforcement...

In my case, my Mail- and Cloud-Servis is used by a bunch of PMCs
which realy start hateing the USA many years ago...  The behaviour
of the USA is just worse...

Some of my camerads disappeard/vanishe completely unexpected and
much more. Especially the USA are hacking european servers and
spying massively, more then russia and china together...

Thanks in advance

-- 
Michelle Konzack        Miila ITSystems @ TDnet
GNU/Linux Developer     00372-54541400

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#193051

From	John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com>
Date	2018-02-24 18:00 +0100
Message-ID	<vmLl0-4AO-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#193047

Michelle Konzack writes:
> I was attacked by honny pots of the NSA!

I wrote:
> How can you be attacked by a honey pot?

> The start a DOS or a hack attemped

Not a honeypot.
-- 
John Hasler 
jhasler@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA

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#193075

From	"Michelle Konzack" <linux4michelle@tamay-dogan.net>
Date	2018-02-24 21:40 +0100
Message-ID	<vmOLT-6UA-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#193051

Am 2018-02-24 hackte John Hasler in die Tasten:
> Michelle Konzack writes:
>> I was attacked by honny pots of the NSA!
>
> I wrote:
>> How can you be attacked by a honey pot?
>
>> The start a DOS or a hack attemped
>
> Not a honeypot.

Oh yes, it is...

They attack and wait if there is a reaction and then they come back
to you and then you have to explain to the local authorities,
why you have hacked back the attacking IP...

In the past I had several issues with North American authorities.
Several times I endet up at the firewall of some NATO installations in
Europe!  --  Not funny at all, because if i fought back and the justice
made a request, -- oh wonder, any charges against me and my enterprises
where droped!

I seems, they try to make some "uncomfortable" busy to bound there
resources, which not only happen to me...  In my opinion, the USA
targeting european PMCs because we mostly do not want to play the bad
american game.

And do not tell me, this three letter ORGs what only to test the
security of my mail-, dns- and cloud-servers!  All 17 servers of my
network are under permanent attack which produce a traffic of more
then 50 TByte per month... official I have only 1 TByte/Server and this
attacks become costly because I have to pay extra for the traffic!!!

Oh, my standard traffic is only 0,5-2 TByte per month.

-- 
Michelle Konzack        Miila ITSystems @ TDnet
GNU/Linux Developer     00372-54541400

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#193070

From	Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu>
Date	2018-02-24 20:40 +0100
Message-ID	<vmNPP-6hV-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#193021

Really?  They're paying for it and you want to use it for free?  This
strikes you as neighborly behavior?

Long Wind <longwind2@yahoo.com> writes:

> Thank Reco and deloptes! 
> what i suspect turn out to be true: for ethical reason users here refuse to help
>
> if reaver is used mainly by bad guy, why debian include it in stable?
>
> i'm in CHina, a land not ruled by law
> jungle law still holds, we chinese can't worry too much
> or we'll worry to death
>
> i want to crack wireless password,
> so i can connect to my neighbours' router
> which provide Internet access
>
> as far as i know their isp charge are fixed, independent of traffic volume
> and i won't use much, so i'm unwilling to pay isp
> it does little harm to my neighbors
>
> On Saturday, February 24, 2018 2:40 AM, deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Long Wind wrote:
>
>> i've installed reaver
>> how to know bssid? it's required argumentfrom wicd-gtk, i click
>> "Properties" then "Information"i can see Access point address, it's
>> bssid?? after i enter reaver with -i, -b and -vv, nothing seems to happen
>> Thanks!
>
> I agree with Reco, but you can try Kali Linux - there are pretty interesting
> tools there
>
> regards

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#193071

From	deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com>
Date	2018-02-24 21:00 +0100
Message-ID	<vmO9c-6oN-19@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#193070

Joe Pfeiffer wrote:

> Really?  They're paying for it and you want to use it for free?  This
> strikes you as neighborly behavior?

It's china man, there are 1+ billion neighbors - if few of them are upset,
the rest won't care (irony off)

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#193078

From	Long Wind <longwind2@yahoo.com>
Date	2018-02-24 23:00 +0100
Message-ID	<vmQ1j-7BM-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#193070

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but this is China, we have very low moral standard than you(your email shows that you are from USA)
the big ? in China is freedomgoogle, facebook, twitter ... are all blocked by governmentif we demand justice, these should receive more priority than stealing (sharing) bandwidth 




 

    On Saturday, February 24, 2018 2:36 PM, Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> wrote:
 

 Really?  They're paying for it and you want to use it for free?  This
strikes you as neighborly behavior?

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#193080

From	Jason <electron@emypeople.net>
Date	2018-02-25 05:40 +0100
Message-ID	<vmWgp-3iI-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#193078

On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 09:49:49PM +0000, Long Wind wrote:
> but this is China, we have very low moral standard than you(your email shows that you are from USA)

We all live on the same Little Blue Ball.

> the big ? in China is freedomgoogle, facebook, twitter ... are all blocked by governmentif we demand justice, these should receive more priority than stealing (sharing) bandwidth 
> 
>
Maybe the 'golden rule' could apply here: "Do to others as you wish
them to do to you." Simple and universal.

> 
>     On Saturday, February 24, 2018 2:36 PM, Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> wrote:
>  
> 
>  Really?  They're paying for it and you want to use it for free?  This
> strikes you as neighborly behavior?
> 
> 
>    

Best regards,

-- 
Jason

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#193081

From	John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com>
Date	2018-02-25 05:50 +0100
Message-ID	<vmWq5-3lP-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#193080

Jason writes:
> Maybe the 'golden rule' could apply here: "Do to others as you wish
> them to do to you." Simple and universal.

"Do unto others as they would wish you to do onto them."  Not everyone
shares your values.
-- 
John Hasler 
jhasler@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA

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#193123

From	Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@surfnaked.ca>
Date	2018-02-26 18:00 +0100
Message-ID	<vnui5-J8-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#193081

On 24/02/18 08:44 PM, John Hasler wrote:

> Jason writes:
 >
>> Maybe the 'golden rule' could apply here: "Do to others as you wish
>> them to do to you." Simple and universal.
>
> "Do unto others as they would wish you to do onto them."  Not everyone
> shares your values.

Q: What's the difference between a sadist and a masochist?
A: A masochist says, "Beat me."  A sadist says, "No."

-- 
cgibbs@surfnaked.ca (Charlie Gibbs)

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#193082

From	Long Wind <longwind2@yahoo.com>
Date	2018-02-25 08:50 +0100
Message-ID	<vmZeh-5cV-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#193080

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golden rule is right 

i've been using fixed line broadband thru a home routerfor convenience,  i don't power off router at night
so far no one, if any, has cause trouble for me

 

    On Saturday, February 24, 2018 11:35 PM, Jason <electron@emypeople.net> wrote:
 

 On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 09:49:49PM +0000, Long Wind wrote:
> but this is China, we have very low moral standard than you(your email shows that you are from USA)

We all live on the same Little Blue Ball.

> the big ? in China is freedomgoogle, facebook, twitter ... are all blocked by governmentif we demand justice, these should receive more priority than stealing (sharing) bandwidth 
> 
>
Maybe the 'golden rule' could apply here: "Do to others as you wish
them to do to you." Simple and universal.

> 
>    On Saturday, February 24, 2018 2:36 PM, Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> wrote:
>  
> 
>  Really?  They're paying for it and you want to use it for free?  This
> strikes you as neighborly behavior?
> 
> 
>    

Best regards,

-- 
Jason

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#193086

From	Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz>
Date	2018-02-25 12:20 +0100
Message-ID	<vn2vv-7p3-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#193082

This discussion is not complete without mention of the 
Upside-Down-Ternet, an oldie but a goodie, on how to have fun with 
iptables and squid when your neighbours are stealing your wireless 
internet access:
http://www.ex-parrot.com/pete/upside-down-ternet.html

Kind regards,

-- 
Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz>
Director
Transient Software Limited <https://transient.nz/>
New Zealand

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#193087

From	"Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net>
Date	2018-02-25 14:30 +0100
Message-ID	<vn4xj-7Z-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#193086

Hi,

Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote:
> http://www.ex-parrot.com/pete/upside-down-ternet.html

That's cool ... and should be a warning. Much worse things could happen.


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

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#193088

From	<tomas@tuxteam.de>
Date	2018-02-25 14:40 +0100
Message-ID	<vn4H0-c8-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#193087

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On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 02:28:45PM +0100, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote:
> > http://www.ex-parrot.com/pete/upside-down-ternet.html
> 
> That's cool ... and should be a warning. Much worse things could happen.

Yes, I enjoyed that too :-)

Remember that, with some ISPs, this is included in the price...

Cheers
- -- tomás
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#193083

From	deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com>
Date	2018-02-25 11:10 +0100
Message-ID	<vn1pM-6JB-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#193078

Long Wind wrote:

> but this is China, we have very low moral standard than you(your email
> shows that you are from USA) the big ? in China is freedomgoogle,
> facebook, twitter ... are all blocked by governmentif we demand justice,
> these should receive more priority than stealing (sharing) bandwidth

Sometimes I think it might be worth blocking google or the stupid social
media platforms. Google as search engine is the only thing I use, but I can
imagine there would be other ways to find information if google was banned.

So do not think that we all here on the other side like google or facebook.

regards

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#193084

From	<tomas@tuxteam.de>
Date	2018-02-25 11:40 +0100
Message-ID	<vn1SN-6Th-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#193083

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On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 10:57:03AM +0100, deloptes wrote:
> Long Wind wrote:
> 
> > but this is China, we have very low moral standard than you(your email
> > shows that you are from USA) the big ? in China is freedomgoogle,
> > facebook, twitter ... are all blocked by governmentif we demand justice,
> > these should receive more priority than stealing (sharing) bandwidth
> 
> Sometimes I think it might be worth blocking google or the stupid social
> media platforms. Google as search engine is the only thing I use,

Detox:

  https://duckduckgo.com/
  https://searx.laquadrature.net/
  https://www.ixquick.com/

There sure are other options. At first you've to get used to it,
because part of Google's better hit rate stems from the fact that
they know you (which, while from a purely technical POV is a Good
Thing, from a societal POV is a disaster, IMHO).

I'm not a purist, mind you, and fall back to Google whenever the
alternatives seem to "fail": that's about once every two months
at the moment (at the beginning of the Google Detox it was more
like once a week).

>                                                                but I can
> imagine there would be other ways to find information if google was banned.
> 
> So do not think that we all here on the other side like google or facebook.

Personally I try to keep as much distance between myself
and Google (or facebook or all those (anti-)social networks,
undermined by the likes of deloptes who, using gmail somehow
feed the beast with her/his correspondent's mails (yeah,
that's me)

A bit tongue-in-cheek, a bit serious...

Cheers
- -- t
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#193091

From	John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com>
Date	2018-02-25 17:40 +0100
Message-ID	<vn7vb-246-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to	#193084

tomas writes:
> There sure are other options. At first you've to get used to it,
> because part of Google's better hit rate stems from the fact that they
> know you (which, while from a purely technical POV is a Good Thing,
> from a societal POV is a disaster, IMHO).

I use Google Search a lot, but they don't "know" me: no cookies and no
scripts.  I've tried allowing their scripts and cookies and find that I
prefer their search engine vanilla.

I do miss the ability to create complex search expressions as was
possible with AltaVista, though.
-- 
John Hasler 
jhasler@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA

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