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| Started by | Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> |
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| First post | 2018-02-16 13:40 +0100 |
| Last post | 2018-02-17 17:20 +0100 |
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Using MATE's workspaces effectively Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-02-16 13:40 +0100
Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2018-02-16 18:00 +0100
Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-02-16 21:00 +0100
Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2018-02-16 22:00 +0100
Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively Cindy-Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2018-02-16 22:50 +0100
Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-02-16 23:10 +0100
Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-02-16 23:00 +0100
Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2018-02-19 14:10 +0100
Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-02-19 15:00 +0100
Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively Marc Shapiro <marcnshap@gmail.com> - 2018-02-28 07:40 +0100
Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2018-02-28 13:50 +0100
Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively Dominic Knight <dominicknight@gmx.com> - 2018-02-28 14:10 +0100
Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively Liam O'Toole <liam.p.otoole@gmail.com> - 2018-02-28 18:10 +0100
Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2018-03-02 01:30 +0100
Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-02-28 14:30 +0100
Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-02-28 15:10 +0100
Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-02-28 16:20 +0100
Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-02-28 16:40 +0100
Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-02-28 16:50 +0100
Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-02-28 17:50 +0100
Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2018-03-02 01:30 +0100
Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2018-03-02 01:40 +0100
[likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-02-17 04:40 +0100
Re: [likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-02-17 11:30 +0100
Re: [likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively Cindy-Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2018-02-17 12:20 +0100
Re: [likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-02-17 14:20 +0100
Re: [likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-02-17 14:00 +0100
Re: [likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively rhkramer@gmail.com - 2018-02-17 14:20 +0100
Re: [likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-02-17 15:30 +0100
Re: [likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-02-17 14:50 +0100
Re: [likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-02-17 15:40 +0100
Re: [likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-02-17 16:10 +0100
Re: [likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-02-17 16:40 +0100
Re: [likely out of luck] "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2018-02-17 17:20 +0100
Re: [likely out of luck] John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-02-17 17:50 +0100
Re: [likely out of luck] Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-02-17 20:30 +0100
Re: [likely out of luck] John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-02-17 20:50 +0100
Re: [likely out of luck] Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-02-19 18:40 +0100
Re: [likely out of luck] "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2018-02-19 20:00 +0100
Re: [likely out of luck] David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-02-17 22:10 +0100
[ROFL] cross product [CAVEAT LECTOR] -- Re: [likely out of luck] Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-02-17 22:50 +0100
Re: [ROFL] cross product [CAVEAT LECTOR] "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2018-02-17 23:10 +0100
Re: [ROFL] cross product [CAVEAT LECTOR] -- Re: [likely out of luck] John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-02-17 23:30 +0100
Re: [likely out of luck] "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2018-02-17 22:10 +0100
Re: [likely out of luck] John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-02-17 22:30 +0100
Re: [likely out of luck] "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2018-02-17 22:50 +0100
Re: [likely out of luck] John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2018-02-17 23:20 +0100
fvwm resources, was Re: [likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-02-17 17:20 +0100
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| From | Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> |
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| Date | 2018-02-17 22:50 +0100 |
| Subject | [ROFL] cross product [CAVEAT LECTOR] -- Re: [likely out of luck] |
| Message-ID | <vkiwN-455-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #192579 |
If you think that subject line is weird U B right It was intentional ;/ I just closed tooo many windows. Someone had just referred me to two Wikipedia articles with 2-dimensional pictorial representations of a multi-dimensional problem. Any one familiar with "Flatland" <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flatland>? This is placeholder until I recover ;/
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| From | "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> |
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| Date | 2018-02-17 23:10 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: [ROFL] cross product [CAVEAT LECTOR] |
| Message-ID | <vkiQb-4uS-49@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #192586 |
Hi, > Any one familiar with "Flatland" <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flatland>? Obviously stolen from Futurama by temporal espionage. https://i1.wp.com/37prime.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Futurama-2-D-Blacktop.jpg Have a nice day :) Thomas
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| From | John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> |
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| Date | 2018-02-17 23:30 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: [ROFL] cross product [CAVEAT LECTOR] -- Re: [likely out of luck] |
| Message-ID | <vkj9w-4BK-11@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #192586 |
You can map it all to two dimensions. I can think of my system as consisting a square array of 4 workspaces each subdivided into 16 panes so that becomes an 8x8 array of panes. I find the 3D view more convenient, though. -- John Hasler jhasler@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA
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| From | "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> |
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| Date | 2018-02-17 22:10 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: [likely out of luck] |
| Message-ID | <vkhU6-3PN-11@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #192572 |
Hi, Richard Owlett wrote: > I'm getting the impression that: > 1. a window manager can manage several desktops. > 2. each desktop may or may not have an associated desktop environment. Be careful with the term "desktop". It is used in several differing meanings. From "screenful of stuff" to "highly integrated and complete GUI". > 2. all could be different configurations of MATE such that > a. one desktop would only have program icons for creating > documents. > b. one would only have program icons for doing matrix algebra. > c. one would only have program icons for web browsing and email. It seems you are looking for non-sticky icons. I'm not sure whether i could talk fvwm2 into doing that. Maybe you should look for some GUI construction set by which you can build simple GUI programs which offer buttons to start the desired programs like icons would do. Each screen would get its own such program. Non-sticky, of course. Have a nice day :) Thomas
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| From | John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> |
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| Date | 2018-02-17 22:30 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: [likely out of luck] |
| Message-ID | <vkidt-3XE-39@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #192580 |
Thomas Schmitt writes: > It seems you are looking for non-sticky icons. I'm not sure whether i > could talk fvwm2 into doing that. An icon is a window. Windows are only sticky if you make them so. -- John Hasler jhasler@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA
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| From | "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> |
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| Date | 2018-02-17 22:50 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: [likely out of luck] |
| Message-ID | <vkiwO-455-15@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #192585 |
Hi,
John Hasler wrote:
> An icon is a window. Windows are only sticky if you make them so.
Ahum ... i see this line in my configuration
Style "*" StickyIcon
and man fvwm says
StickyIcon makes the window sticky when it's iconified.
It de-iconifies on top the active desktop. SlipperyIcon
reverts back to the default.
So
Style richards-matrix-algebra SlipperyIcon
would confine the icon of program richards-matrix-algebra to the screen
where it was iconified.
Question is how to determine the program name.
man fvwm says:
Style stylename options ...
stylename can be a window's name, class, visible name, or
resource string. It may contain the wildcards '*' and '?',
which are matched in the usual Unix filename manner.
So the visible window title might be a good first guess.
There are 9000+ interesting text lines more in man fvwm.
Have a nice day :)
Thomas
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| From | John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> |
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| Date | 2018-02-17 23:20 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: [likely out of luck] |
| Message-ID | <vkiZQ-4yz-7@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #192588 |
Thomas Schmitt writes: > So the visible window title might be a good first guess. That usually works, but be careful. Some ornery applications ignore Unix and X11 conventions and resources and/or retitle themselves. Firefox is a prime example. -- John Hasler jhasler@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA
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| From | David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2018-02-17 17:20 +0100 |
| Subject | fvwm resources, was Re: [likely out of luck] was -- Re: Using MATE's workspaces effectively |
| Message-ID | <vkdnr-T6-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #192558 |
On Sat 17 Feb 2018 at 09:01:07 (-0600), John Hasler wrote:
> Richard Owlett writes:
> > A sketchy preliminary web search doses not look promising. I'll
> > initially experiment with KDE. Is there a recommended site that gives
> > a good description of why and how one would use [FVWM] {similar to what
> > <https://www.datamation.com/open-source/how-to-setup-kde-activities.html>
> > does for KDE}?
>
> <http://www.fvwm.org/> is what there is.
>
> There is a plethora of man pages, of course.
If you like configuring by example, then reading through
/usr/share/fvwm/default-config/config while running fvwm
is invaluable.
These older links might be helpful:
https://docstore.mik.ua/orelly/linux/run/ch11_02.htm
https://docstore.mik.ua/orelly/linux/lnut/ch17_01.htm
The latter includes:
17.11. Starting Windows on Different Desktops and Pages
https://docstore.mik.ua/orelly/linux/lnut/ch17_11.htm
but beware of cutting and pasting directly from texts
like these in case they're from a previous version
(though fvwm moves pretty slowly). In particular, just
check they're not from fvwm1 which, remarkably, is
still packaged in stretch.
People used to post their fvwmrc/fvwm2rc files in days
of yore; googleable, good for new ideas.
Cheers,
David.
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