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  extracting file with xz file tar..... Michael Fothergill <michael.fothergill@gmail.com> - 2018-01-25 21:40 +0100
    Re: extracting file with xz file tar..... Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2018-01-25 21:50 +0100
    Re: extracting file with xz file tar..... Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-01-25 21:50 +0100
      Re: extracting file with xz file tar..... Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2018-01-25 22:00 +0100
      Re: extracting file with xz file tar..... Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-01-25 22:00 +0100
      Re: extracting file with xz file tar..... Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-01-25 22:00 +0100
        Re: extracting file with xz file tar..... Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-01-26 02:00 +0100
          Re: extracting file with xz file tar..... David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-01-26 03:50 +0100
            Re: extracting file with xz file tar..... Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-01-26 08:50 +0100
            Re: extracting file with xz file tar..... Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-01-26 12:00 +0100
              Re: extracting file with xz file tar..... rhkramer@gmail.com - 2018-01-26 17:30 +0100
                Re: extracting file with xz file tar..... Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-01-26 17:40 +0100
          Re: extracting file with xz file tar..... Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-01-26 11:00 +0100
            Re: extracting file with xz file tar..... Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-01-26 11:40 +0100
        Re: extracting file with xz file tar..... Charlie S <taoquester@gmail.com> - 2018-01-26 07:10 +0100
          Re: extracting file with xz file tar..... Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-01-26 09:00 +0100
    Re: extracting file with xz file tar..... Michael Lange <klappnase@freenet.de> - 2018-01-25 22:10 +0100
      Re: extracting file with xz file tar..... Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2018-01-25 22:20 +0100
    Re: extracting file with xz file tar..... Dominique Dumont <dod38fr@gmail.com> - 2018-01-26 11:10 +0100

#191548 — extracting file with xz file tar.....

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Dear folks,

I am trying to extract files from a tar xz file.

The file is a kernel file.

I ran the tar -xf command:

root@mikef-PC:/usr/src# tar -xf linux-4.14.15.tar.xz

If you look at the date and time then you can see that no directories have
been created with from it in the directory.....

root@mikef-PC:/usr/src# date
Thu 25 Jan 20:11:23 GMT 2018
root@mikef-PC:/usr/src# ls -l
total 199992
drwxrwxr-x 24 root  root       4096 Jan 23 18:58 linux-4.14.15
-rw-r--r--  1 mikef mikef 100837776 Jan 25 16:43 linux-4.14.15.tar.xz
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  root       4096 Jan 25 18:02 linux-config-4.14
drwxr-xr-x  4 root  root       4096 Jan 25 00:01
linux-headers-4.14.0-3-amd64
drwxr-xr-x  4 root  root       4096 Jan 25 00:01
linux-headers-4.14.0-3-common
drwxr-xr-x  4 root  root       4096 Jan 24 16:32 linux-headers-4.9.0-4-amd64
drwxr-xr-x  4 root  root       4096 Jan 24 16:33
linux-headers-4.9.0-4-common
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  root         24 Jan 14 19:45 linux-kbuild-4.14 ->
../lib/linux-kbuild-4.14
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  root         24 Jan 15 04:43 linux-kbuild-4.15 ->
../lib/linux-kbuild-4.15
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  root         23 Aug  6 05:24 linux-kbuild-4.9 ->
../lib/linux-kbuild-4.9
-rw-r--r--  1 root  root     216052 Jan 14 19:45
linux-patch-4.14-rt.patch.xz
-rw-r--r--  1 root  root  103701828 Jan 14 19:45 linux-source-4.14.tar.xz
drwxr-xr-x  8 root  root       4096 Nov 18 09:15 open-vm-tools-10.1.5
root@mikef-PC:/usr/src#

Can anyone think of a command that will let me know where the files
went/confirm it ran properly?

Cheers

Michael Fothergill

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#191549

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Gene Heskett (2018-01-25):
> It would help to run the correct unpacker. xz is relatively new, and the 
> command is: xz -d packagename.xz. If its a tarball, thats what you'll 
> get back.  If it an image for an sd card, that's what you will get back.
> 
> running tar xf is asking tar to do something it cannot do, at least not 
> yet.
> 
> man xz can be quite educational ;-)

The 1990's are calling, they want their man pages back.

Even in the 1990's, no competent Unix user would never unpack an archive
as a file, they would use pipelines. And nowadays, tar know how to do
that all by itself, including detecting the archive type.

Regards,

-- 
  Nicolas George

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#191550

On Thursday 25 January 2018 15:14:24 Michael Fothergill wrote:

> Dear folks,
>
> I am trying to extract files from a tar xz file.
>
> The file is a kernel file.
>
> I ran the tar -xf command:
>
> root@mikef-PC:/usr/src# tar -xf linux-4.14.15.tar.xz
>
> If you look at the date and time then you can see that no directories
> have been created with from it in the directory.....
>
> root@mikef-PC:/usr/src# date
> Thu 25 Jan 20:11:23 GMT 2018
> root@mikef-PC:/usr/src# ls -l
> total 199992
> drwxrwxr-x 24 root  root       4096 Jan 23 18:58 linux-4.14.15
> -rw-r--r--  1 mikef mikef 100837776 Jan 25 16:43 linux-4.14.15.tar.xz
> drwxr-xr-x  2 root  root       4096 Jan 25 18:02 linux-config-4.14
> drwxr-xr-x  4 root  root       4096 Jan 25 00:01
> linux-headers-4.14.0-3-amd64
> drwxr-xr-x  4 root  root       4096 Jan 25 00:01
> linux-headers-4.14.0-3-common
> drwxr-xr-x  4 root  root       4096 Jan 24 16:32
> linux-headers-4.9.0-4-amd64 drwxr-xr-x  4 root  root       4096 Jan 24
> 16:33
> linux-headers-4.9.0-4-common
> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  root         24 Jan 14 19:45 linux-kbuild-4.14 ->
> ../lib/linux-kbuild-4.14
> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  root         24 Jan 15 04:43 linux-kbuild-4.15 ->
> ../lib/linux-kbuild-4.15
> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  root         23 Aug  6 05:24 linux-kbuild-4.9 ->
> ../lib/linux-kbuild-4.9
> -rw-r--r--  1 root  root     216052 Jan 14 19:45
> linux-patch-4.14-rt.patch.xz
> -rw-r--r--  1 root  root  103701828 Jan 14 19:45
> linux-source-4.14.tar.xz drwxr-xr-x  8 root  root       4096 Nov 18
> 09:15 open-vm-tools-10.1.5 root@mikef-PC:/usr/src#
>
> Can anyone think of a command that will let me know where the files
> went/confirm it ran properly?
>
> Cheers
>
> Michael Fothergill

It would help to run the correct unpacker. xz is relatively new, and the 
command is: xz -d packagename.xz. If its a tarball, thats what you'll 
get back.  If it an image for an sd card, that's what you will get back.

running tar xf is asking tar to do something it cannot do, at least not 
yet.

man xz can be quite educational ;-)

Cheers, Gene Heskett
The above content, added by Maurice E. Heskett, is Copyright 2018 by 
Maurice E. Heskett.
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#191551

On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 03:42:15PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> 
> It would help to run the correct unpacker. xz is relatively new, and the 
> command is: xz -d packagename.xz. If its a tarball, thats what you'll 
> get back.  If it an image for an sd card, that's what you will get back.
> 
> running tar xf is asking tar to do something it cannot do, at least not 
> yet.
> 
> man xz can be quite educational ;-)
> 
>From tar(1), on a Debian stretch system:

       -J, --xz
              Filter the archive through xz(1).

I am relatively confident that it was there at least in jessie versions
of tar as well.

Regards,

-Roberto

-- 
Roberto C. Sánchez

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#191552

On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 03:42:15PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> running tar xf is asking tar to do something it cannot do, at least not 
> yet.

Says the wheezy user.  The newer tar versions will auto-detect the
compression type and run the appropriate decompression program.

wooledg:~$ tar tvf manpages_3.74.orig.tar.xz | head
drwxr-xr-x mtk/mtk           0 2014-10-02 18:01 man-pages-3.74/
drwxr-xr-x mtk/mtk           0 2014-10-02 18:01 man-pages-3.74/man2/
...

(Don't ask why I have that file; it was simply the first *.tar.xz I
found.)

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#191553

On Thu 25 Jan 2018 at 15:42:15 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:

> On Thursday 25 January 2018 15:14:24 Michael Fothergill wrote:
> 
> > Dear folks,
> >
> > I am trying to extract files from a tar xz file.
> >
> > The file is a kernel file.
> >
> > I ran the tar -xf command:

[Snipped]

> Cheers, Gene Heskett
> The above content, added by Maurice E. Heskett, is Copyright 2018 by 
> Maurice E. Heskett.

I've deleted just about everything in your post because I do not know
whether it is redistributable. Would you please clarify?

-- 
Brian.

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#191573

On Thursday 25 January 2018 15:51:47 Brian wrote:

> On Thu 25 Jan 2018 at 15:42:15 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Thursday 25 January 2018 15:14:24 Michael Fothergill wrote:
> > > Dear folks,
> > >
> > > I am trying to extract files from a tar xz file.
> > >
> > > The file is a kernel file.
> > >
> > > I ran the tar -xf command:
>
> [Snipped]
>
> > Cheers, Gene Heskett
> > The above content, added by Maurice E. Heskett, is Copyright 2018 by
> > Maurice E. Heskett.
>
> I've deleted just about everything in your post because I do not know
> whether it is redistributable. Would you please clarify?

Yes, my bad, that is intended for the amanda list, whose new owner is 
attempting to emulate yahoo all those years ago by claiming copyright on 
everthing the server passes thru. Yahoo got burned at the stake in court 
over that, and now CARBONITE INC is replaying it. I need to figure out a 
way to make kmail use an individual signature per list. Without 
concocting 40+ more identities.

In the meantime I'm trying to train this old dog to delete those 2 lines 
when the message is not aimed at the amanda list.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#191575

On Thu 25 Jan 2018 at 19:54:14 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Thursday 25 January 2018 15:51:47 Brian wrote:
> 
> > On Thu 25 Jan 2018 at 15:42:15 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > [Snipped more]
> >
> > > Cheers, Gene Heskett
> > > The above content, added by Maurice E. Heskett, is Copyright 2018 by
> > > Maurice E. Heskett.
> >
> > I've deleted just about everything in your post because I do not know
> > whether it is redistributable. Would you please clarify?
> 
> Yes, my bad, that is intended for the amanda list, whose new owner is 
> attempting to emulate yahoo all those years ago by claiming copyright on 
> everthing the server passes thru. Yahoo got burned at the stake in court 
> over that, and now CARBONITE INC is replaying it. I need to figure out a 
> way to make kmail use an individual signature per list. Without 
> concocting 40+ more identities.
> 
> In the meantime I'm trying to train this old dog to delete those 2 lines 
> when the message is not aimed at the amanda list.

As you may or may not have noticed, I (or, rather, mutt) insert a Reply-To:
header into all my posts on this list. It's generated by a folder-hook
triggered by my being in this (deblis) folder.

Perhaps you can coerce your email client to do the same sort of thing
with headers even if it can't manage it with signatures. Organization:
might be a suitable header to use.

Cheers,
David.

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#191579

On Thursday 25 January 2018 21:45:46 David Wright wrote:

> On Thu 25 Jan 2018 at 19:54:14 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Thursday 25 January 2018 15:51:47 Brian wrote:
> > > On Thu 25 Jan 2018 at 15:42:15 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > [Snipped more]
> > >
> > > > Cheers, Gene Heskett
> > > > The above content, added by Maurice E. Heskett, is Copyright
> > > > 2018 by Maurice E. Heskett.
> > >
> > > I've deleted just about everything in your post because I do not
> > > know whether it is redistributable. Would you please clarify?
> >
> > Yes, my bad, that is intended for the amanda list, whose new owner
> > is attempting to emulate yahoo all those years ago by claiming
> > copyright on everthing the server passes thru. Yahoo got burned at
> > the stake in court over that, and now CARBONITE INC is replaying it.
> > I need to figure out a way to make kmail use an individual signature
> > per list. Without concocting 40+ more identities.
> >
> > In the meantime I'm trying to train this old dog to delete those 2
> > lines when the message is not aimed at the amanda list.
>
> As you may or may not have noticed, I (or, rather, mutt) insert a
> Reply-To: header into all my posts on this list. It's generated by a
> folder-hook triggered by my being in this (deblis) folder.
>
> Perhaps you can coerce your email client to do the same sort of thing
> with headers even if it can't manage it with signatures. Organization:
> might be a suitable header to use.
>
> Cheers,
> David.

I finally did find a place to add it in the folder properties, but its 
above the sig. I never did find an Organization line. I did at one point 
years back have it filled in as "Undetectable" since I've always been an 
event driven type, but it always showed up appended to the address.  One 
of the thousands of bugs kde never fixed.

But I've been running TDE for a gui for quite a while. That's a fork of 
kde at about the 3.5 point, with tons of bugs fixed.

-- 
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#191591

On 2018-01-26, David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, my bad, that is intended for the amanda list, whose new owner is 
>> attempting to emulate yahoo all those years ago by claiming copyright on 
>> everthing the server passes thru. Yahoo got burned at the stake in court 
>> over that, and now CARBONITE INC is replaying it. I need to figure out a 
>> way to make kmail use an individual signature per list. Without 
>> concocting 40+ more identities.
>> 

>> In the meantime I'm trying to train this old dog to delete those 2 lines 
>> when the message is not aimed at the amanda list.

It appears kmail has "identities" now (but maybe not then in the Wheezy
version) that would allow you to juggle several different personalities
(Gene, Maurice, Mr. Heskett, etc.) with discrete settings for each.

Alpine has "roles" for this; however, I don't ever seem to be the
leading man and am consistently accorded small character parts in which
I generally end up on the cutting room floor.

> As you may or may not have noticed, I (or, rather, mutt) insert a Reply-To:
> header into all my posts on this list. It's generated by a folder-hook
> triggered by my being in this (deblis) folder.
>
> Perhaps you can coerce your email client to do the same sort of thing
> with headers even if it can't manage it with signatures. Organization:
> might be a suitable header to use.
>
> Cheers,
> David.
>
>


-- 
“True terror is to wake up one morning and discover that your high school class
is running the country.” – Kurt Vonnegut

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#191599

On Friday, January 26, 2018 05:50:45 AM Curt wrote:
> On 2018-01-26, David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> wrote:
> >> Yes, my bad, that is intended for the amanda list, whose new owner is
> >> attempting to emulate yahoo all those years ago by claiming copyright on
> >> everthing the server passes thru. Yahoo got burned at the stake in court
> >> over that, and now CARBONITE INC is replaying it. I need to figure out a
> >> way to make kmail use an individual signature per list. Without
> >> concocting 40+ more identities.

> It appears kmail has "identities" now (but maybe not then in the Wheezy
> version) that would allow you to juggle several different personalities
> (Gene, Maurice, Mr. Heskett, etc.) with discrete settings for each.

Just a data point or two:

   * kmail in Wheezy has identities

   * (more relevant to a different thread--I'll probably respond to it as 
well)--kmail in Wheezy does not need Akonadi (sp?)--if kmail in a later 
version of Debian requires Akonadi, I'll be looking for another email client

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#191600

On 2018-01-26, rhkramer@gmail.com <rhkramer@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Friday, January 26, 2018 05:50:45 AM Curt wrote:
>> On 2018-01-26, David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> wrote:
>> >> Yes, my bad, that is intended for the amanda list, whose new owner is
>> >> attempting to emulate yahoo all those years ago by claiming copyright on
>> >> everthing the server passes thru. Yahoo got burned at the stake in court
>> >> over that, and now CARBONITE INC is replaying it. I need to figure out a
>> >> way to make kmail use an individual signature per list. Without
>> >> concocting 40+ more identities.
>
>> It appears kmail has "identities" now (but maybe not then in the Wheezy
>> version) that would allow you to juggle several different personalities
>> (Gene, Maurice, Mr. Heskett, etc.) with discrete settings for each.
>
> Just a data point or two:
>
>    * kmail in Wheezy has identities

Well then maybe Maurice (aka Gene, aka M. Eugene "Cathode Ray" Heskett)
should use them to solve his signature problems.

>    * (more relevant to a different thread--I'll probably respond to it as 
> well)--kmail in Wheezy does not need Akonadi (sp?)--if kmail in a later 
> version of Debian requires Akonadi, I'll be looking for another email client
>
>


-- 
“True terror is to wake up one morning and discover that your high school class
is running the country.” – Kurt Vonnegut

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#191586

On 2018-01-26, Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> wrote:
>
> In the meantime I'm trying to train this old dog to delete those 2 lines 
> when the message is not aimed at the amanda list.

Just let us talk to Maurice and we'll work it out with him.

> Cheers, Gene Heskett


-- 
“True terror is to wake up one morning and discover that your high school class
is running the country.” – Kurt Vonnegut

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#191589

On Friday 26 January 2018 04:52:54 Curt wrote:

> On 2018-01-26, Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> wrote:
> > In the meantime I'm trying to train this old dog to delete those 2
> > lines when the message is not aimed at the amanda list.
>
> Just let us talk to Maurice and we'll work it out with him.
>
> > Cheers, Gene Heskett

Chuckle;  The name on the birth certificate is Maurice Eugene, but I've 
been just Gene for 83 years. But my bank made me use the B.C. name on my 
account about 3 years ago ands its been a C.F. ever since.

Sorry about that but it is what it is.

Mother never called me Maurice even when she was mad at me. A habit 80 
years in practice is too damned late to fix now.

Heck, I wasn't even born a Heskett, that was one of the first things I 
changed as soon as I turned 21. Its a name change to honor the good 
honest man that raised me, not the runaway father I've never met. And 
its on file at the Johnson County Iowa courthouse in late 1955.

I always figured if I was ever to meet my blood father, we'd have a few 
rounds of a boy named Sue, but I've had the ultimate revenge by 
outliving him since he'd have to be north of 100 yo now.

Now you know most of "the rest of the story".

-- 
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#191578

On Thu, 25 Jan 2018 20:51:47 +0000 Brian sent:

> On Thu 25 Jan 2018 at 15:42:15 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> 
> > On Thursday 25 January 2018 15:14:24 Michael Fothergill wrote:
> >   
> > > Dear folks,
> > >
> > > I am trying to extract files from a tar xz file.
> > >
> > > The file is a kernel file.
> > >
> > > I ran the tar -xf command:  
> 
> [Snipped]
> 
> > Cheers, Gene Heskett
> > The above content, added by Maurice E. Heskett, is Copyright 2018
> > by Maurice E. Heskett.  
> 
> I've deleted just about everything in your post because I do not know
> whether it is redistributable. Would you please clarify?
> 
> -- 
> Brian.

	After contemplation, my reply is:

[quote] man xz can be quite educational ;-) [end quote]

Is there something wrong with that?

Charlie

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#191581

On Friday 26 January 2018 00:43:24 Charlie S wrote:

> On Thu, 25 Jan 2018 20:51:47 +0000 Brian sent:
> > On Thu 25 Jan 2018 at 15:42:15 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > On Thursday 25 January 2018 15:14:24 Michael Fothergill wrote:
> > > > Dear folks,
> > > >
> > > > I am trying to extract files from a tar xz file.
> > > >
> > > > The file is a kernel file.
> > > >
> > > > I ran the tar -xf command:
> >
> > [Snipped]
> >
> > > Cheers, Gene Heskett
> > > The above content, added by Maurice E. Heskett, is Copyright 2018
> > > by Maurice E. Heskett.
> >
> > I've deleted just about everything in your post because I do not
> > know whether it is redistributable. Would you please clarify?
> >
> > --
> > Brian.
>
> 	After contemplation, my reply is:
>
> [quote] man xz can be quite educational ;-) [end quote]
>
> Is there something wrong with that?
>
> Charlie

Nope. The wheezy version of tar has apparently not been taught about xz 
files yet. Or has it?, -J is an alias for --xz acc my man page.  Note 
uppercase J. A lowercase j=bzip2. So we both learned something. But what 
I've been upacking recently have all been images to dd to an sd card for 
booting these pi sized computer cards.


-- 
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#191556

On Thu, 25 Jan 2018 20:14:24 +0000
Michael Fothergill <michael.fothergill@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear folks,
> 
> I am trying to extract files from a tar xz file.

Why bother with a command line and not just do it from a gui file
manager's context menu? Xfe and pcmanfm and probably the others as well
handle this splendidly.

Just a thought...

Michael


.-.. .. ...- .   .-.. --- -. --.   .- -. -..   .--. .-. --- ... .--. . .-.

On my planet, to rest is to rest -- to cease using energy.  To me, it
is quite illogical to run up and down on green grass, using energy,
instead of saving it.
		-- Spock, "Shore Leave", stardate 3025.2

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#191560

On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 10:00:08PM +0100, Michael Lange wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Jan 2018 20:14:24 +0000
> Michael Fothergill <michael.fothergill@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Dear folks,
> > 
> > I am trying to extract files from a tar xz file.
> 
> Why bother with a command line and not just do it from a gui file
> manager's context menu? Xfe and pcmanfm and probably the others as well
> handle this splendidly.
> 
You, sir, will now have to relinquish your geek card.

I mean, you might as well suggest that he just switch to MS Windows or
Mac OS X.

Regards,

-Roberto

-- 
Roberto C. Sánchez

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#191588

On Thursday, 25 January 2018 21:14:24 CET Michael Fothergill wrote:
> I ran the tar -xf command:
> 
> root@mikef-PC:/usr/src# tar -xf linux-4.14.15.tar.xz

you can use 'a' for automatic and 'v' for verbose. E.g.:

tar -axvf linux-4.14.15.tar.xz

HTH

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