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  Radiotray fails in stretch tony <lists@vanderhoff.org> - 2018-01-20 17:30 +0100
    Re: Radiotray fails in stretch Eike Lantzsch <zp6cge@gmx.net> - 2018-01-20 21:10 +0100
      Re: Radiotray fails in stretch deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2018-01-20 21:40 +0100
        Re: Radiotray fails in stretch Eike Lantzsch <zp6cge@gmx.net> - 2018-01-20 22:10 +0100
          Re: Radiotray fails in stretch Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-01-21 14:30 +0100
            Re: Radiotray fails in stretch tony <lists@vanderhoff.org> - 2018-01-21 15:00 +0100
              Re: Radiotray fails in stretch Frank <zuiderduin@gmx.com> - 2018-01-21 18:00 +0100
            Re: Radiotray fails in stretch deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2018-01-21 15:20 +0100
              Re: Radiotray fails in stretch David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-01-21 17:40 +0100

#191368 — Radiotray fails in stretch

I recently upgraded my jessie laptop to stretch, in accordance with the
published instructions.

All seems to have gone well, so far, except for one item: Radiotray will
not run. There is an old bug report against it (814628), which mentions
dependency issues, but the maintainer reckons it's fixed. My symptoms
are identical to those in the bug report.

Does anyone have any suggestions, please?

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#191376

On Saturday, January 20, 2018 5:20:02 PM -03 tony wrote:
> I recently upgraded my jessie laptop to stretch, in accordance with the
> published instructions.
> 
> All seems to have gone well, so far, except for one item: Radiotray will
> not run. There is an old bug report against it (814628), which mentions
> dependency issues, but the maintainer reckons it's fixed. My symptoms
> are identical to those in the bug report.
> 
> Does anyone have any suggestions, please?

I just tried it with Stretch. It installs OK and obviously doesn't have any 
dependency problems. Starting it just puts an icon into the tray. On clicking 
onto it it asks if you want to run it in a tray or. ..
After answering the question (checkbox) it sits in the tray as a grayed-out 
icon which is from then on autistic.

Error messages on startup:
01:~$ radiotray
/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/radiotray/XmlDataProvider.py:23: PyGIWarning: 
Gtk was imported without specifying a version first. Use 
gi.require_version('Gtk', '3.0') before import to ensure that the right 
version gets loaded.
  from gi.repository import Gtk
/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/radiotray/AudioPlayerGStreamer.py:64: 
FutureWarning: The behavior of this method will change in future versions. Use 
specific 'len(elem)' or 'elem is not None' test instead.
  if(cfg_provider._settingExists("buffer_size")):
/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/radiotray/SysTray.py:100: PyGIWarning: 
AppIndicator3 was imported without specifying a version first. Use 
gi.require_version('AppIndicator3', '0.1') before import to ensure that the 
right version gets loaded.
  from gi.repository import AppIndicator3

(radiotray:8813): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: gtk.css:68:35: The 
style property GtkButton:child-displacement-x is deprecated and shouldn't be 
used anymore. It will be removed in a future version

(radiotray:8813): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: gtk.css:69:35: The 
style property GtkButton:child-displacement-y is deprecated and shouldn't be 
used anymore. It will be removed in a future version

(radiotray:8813): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: gtk.css:73:46: The 
style property GtkScrolledWindow:scrollbars-within-bevel is deprecated and 
shouldn't be used anymore. It will be removed in a future version
Gtk-Message: GtkDialog mapped without a transient parent. This is discouraged.
Sleep Timer, Stops playing after a predefined time, SleepTimerPlugin.py, Carlos 
Ribeiro
StationSwitcher, Allows cycling through stations, StationSwitcherPlugin.py, 
Mark F
HelloWorld, This is a test plugin, HelloWorld.py, Carlos Ribeiro
started
Notifications, Shows message notifications on the desktop, NotificationPlugin.py, 
Carlos Ribeiro
/usr/share/radiotray/plugins/NotificationPlugin.py:25: PyGIWarning: Notify was 
imported without specifying a version first. Use gi.require_version('Notify', 
'0.7') before import to ensure that the right version gets loaded.
  from gi.repository import Notify
Mate Media Keys, Controls Radio Tray through keyboard multimedia keys, 
MateMediaKeysPlugin.py, Ken
Gnome Media Keys, Controls Radio Tray through keyboard multimedia keys, 
GnomeMediaKeysPlugin.py, Carlos Ribeiro
History, Shows song history, HistoryPlugin.py, Carlos Ribeiro

And that's it. I don't have any experience with radiotray and have no 
suggestions.
Is it still maintaned?
For now I'm going to deinstall it again. No time nor energy to investigate.

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#191378

Eike Lantzsch wrote:

> And that's it. I don't have any experience with radiotray and have no
> suggestions.
> Is it still maintaned?
> For now I'm going to deinstall it again. No time nor energy to
> investigate.

looks like a shit program to me - just wondering how it got it into debian
packages.
When I read first this post I was thinking there is an app for controlling
radio receiver but it turns out it is online radio - WTF! online radio is
not a radio like terrestrial broadcast. Each online radio offers nowdays a
HTML5 stream, which can be automatically played by any HTML5 compatible
browser.

correct me if I am wrong

regards

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#191380

On Saturday, January 20, 2018 9:36:20 PM -03 deloptes wrote:
> Eike Lantzsch wrote:
> > And that's it. I don't have any experience with radiotray and have no
> > suggestions.
> > Is it still maintaned?
> > For now I'm going to deinstall it again. No time nor energy to
> > investigate.
> 
> looks like a shit program to me - just wondering how it got it into debian
> packages.
> When I read first this post I was thinking there is an app for controlling
> radio receiver but it turns out it is online radio - WTF! online radio is
> not a radio like terrestrial broadcast. Each online radio offers nowdays a
> HTML5 stream, which can be automatically played by any HTML5 compatible
> browser.
> 
> correct me if I am wrong
> 
> regards

No, I think you're right either way.
kind regards and have a nice day

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#191394

On 2018-01-20, Eike Lantzsch <zp6cge@gmx.net> wrote:
>> 
>> looks like a shit program to me - just wondering how it got it into debian
>> packages.
>> When I read first this post I was thinking there is an app for controlling
>> radio receiver but it turns out it is online radio - WTF! online radio is
>> not a radio like terrestrial broadcast. Each online radio offers nowdays a
>> HTML5 stream, which can be automatically played by any HTML5 compatible
>> browser.
>> 
>> correct me if I am wrong
>> 
>> regards
>
> No, I think you're right either way.

Just to be clear this python program is a small utility that sits in
your system tray and allows you to select and listen to online radio
streams, as decoded by the gstreamer librairies--the only dependency
other than some python stuff, it seems.

Why this is invalid because you can also listen to online radio from an
HTML5 compatible browser, I am uncertain (this app is ostensibly
designed to be minimal, whereas HTML5 compatible browsers generally
have maximal tendencies).

Of course if the application isn't working that does qualify as a major
point in its disfavor.

I just read that 'python-xdg' should be a hard dependency, the installation
of which has fixed some folks' mortal bugs.


> kind regards and have a nice day
>
>


-- 
“True terror is to wake up one morning and discover that your high school class
is running the country.” – Kurt Vonnegut

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#191395

On 21/01/18 14:20, Curt wrote:
> On 2018-01-20, Eike Lantzsch <zp6cge@gmx.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> looks like a shit program to me - just wondering how it got it into debian
>>> packages.
>>> When I read first this post I was thinking there is an app for controlling
>>> radio receiver but it turns out it is online radio - WTF! online radio is
>>> not a radio like terrestrial broadcast. Each online radio offers nowdays a
>>> HTML5 stream, which can be automatically played by any HTML5 compatible
>>> browser.
>>>
>>> correct me if I am wrong
>>>
>>> regards
>>
>> No, I think you're right either way.
> 
> Just to be clear this python program is a small utility that sits in
> your system tray and allows you to select and listen to online radio
> streams, as decoded by the gstreamer librairies--the only dependency
> other than some python stuff, it seems.
> 
> Why this is invalid because you can also listen to online radio from an
> HTML5 compatible browser, I am uncertain (this app is ostensibly
> designed to be minimal, whereas HTML5 compatible browsers generally
> have maximal tendencies).
> 
> Of course if the application isn't working that does qualify as a major
> point in its disfavor.
> 
> I just read that 'python-xdg' should be a hard dependency, the installation
> of which has fixed some folks' mortal bugs.
> 
> 
>> kind regards and have a nice day
>>

Well, let's put this to bed. Thanks to those who responded; Eike at
least tried to help, his symptoms precisely match mine, thus confirming
it's a bug, despite the developer being unable to replicate it. Ah, well...

It's NOT a shit program; it's been happily fulfilling my needs for many
years (certainly since Wheezy); it sits unobtrusively in the system
tray, without much overhead. I'm not in the habit of running a
resource-hungry web browser all the time.

However, it no longer works, so must be consigned to the shit-heap.
Thanks, anyway

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#191398

Op 21-01-18 om 14:53 schreef tony:
> Well, let's put this to bed. Thanks to those who responded; Eike at
> least tried to help, his symptoms precisely match mine, thus confirming
> it's a bug, despite the developer being unable to replicate it. Ah, well...

Radiotray failed for me like that when stretch was testing. Installing 
python-xdg fixed it (that package is now a dependency of the radiotray 
package).

> It's NOT a shit program;

Indeed.

> However, it no longer works, so must be consigned to the shit-heap.

Nope. Still works here (Xfce/testing/buster).

Regards,
Frank

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#191396

Curt wrote:

> Of course if the application isn't working that does qualify as a major
> point in its disfavor.
> 
> I just read that 'python-xdg' should be a hard dependency, the
> installation of which has fixed some folks' mortal bugs.

I understand the purpose of this application, however the benefit is
marginal as the browser is the thing used most of the time (and from the
said above, problems expected).

I just wonder why it would be the best internet radio player. I recommend to
add an i infront of "RadioTray" -> "iRadioTray". It  would not be
pretending to be something it is not, because radio is something that is
being broadcasted on air. the one from the internet is internet radio.

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#191397

On Sun 21 Jan 2018 at 15:11:14 (+0100), deloptes wrote:
> Curt wrote:
> 
> > Of course if the application isn't working that does qualify as a major
> > point in its disfavor.
> > 
> > I just read that 'python-xdg' should be a hard dependency, the
> > installation of which has fixed some folks' mortal bugs.
> 
> I understand the purpose of this application, however the benefit is
> marginal as the browser is the thing used most of the time (and from the
> said above, problems expected).

Marginal to you, maybe. But there are people who are happy to
spend more on a standalone internet radio than I would pay for
a reasonably specified computer. They don't want the complication.

> I just wonder why it would be the best internet radio player. I recommend to
> add an i infront of "RadioTray" -> "iRadioTray".

Yes, this is important for people who don't get as far as the one-line
description of the package (Description: online radio streaming player),
let alone the paragraph:

"Description-en: online radio streaming player
 This is a simple music streaming player that lives on the system tray.
 By clicking on the RadioTray icon, you'll be presented with a list of
 pre-configured online radios. By selecting one of those radios, it will
 start playing."

> It  would not be
> pretending to be something it is not, because radio is something that is
> being broadcasted on air. the one from the internet is internet radio.

Um, you just wrote, without a hint of proscription:

"When I read first this post I was thinking there is an app for controlling
radio receiver but it turns out it is online radio - WTF! online radio is
not a radio like terrestrial broadcast. Each online radio offers nowdays a
HTML5 stream, which can be automatically played by any HTML5 compatible
browser."

Cheers,
David.

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