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  Problem using "dpkg -i" Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-01-15 08:40 +0100
    Re: Problem using "dpkg -i" Bernd Gruber <begruber@mnet-online.de> - 2018-01-15 09:50 +0100
      Re: Problem using "dpkg -i" Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-01-15 10:20 +0100
        Re: Problem using "dpkg -i" deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2018-01-15 20:40 +0100
          Re: Problem using "dpkg -i" Michael Lange <klappnase@freenet.de> - 2018-01-16 00:10 +0100
            Re: Problem using "dpkg -i" deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2018-01-16 08:20 +0100
              Re: Problem using "dpkg -i" Michael Lange <klappnase@freenet.de> - 2018-01-16 11:30 +0100
                Re: Problem using "dpkg -i" Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-01-16 12:20 +0100
                  Re: Problem using "dpkg -i" Michael Lange <klappnase@freenet.de> - 2018-01-16 22:10 +0100
                    Re: Problem using "dpkg -i" Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-01-17 11:40 +0100
                Re: Problem using "dpkg -i" Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-01-16 22:40 +0100
                  Re: Problem using "dpkg -i" Michael Lange <klappnase@freenet.de> - 2018-01-16 23:00 +0100
                    Re: Problem using "dpkg -i" Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-01-17 14:00 +0100
                      Re: Problem using "dpkg -i" Michael Lange <klappnase@freenet.de> - 2018-01-17 20:40 +0100
        Re: Problem using "dpkg -i" Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2018-01-16 07:10 +0100
          Re: Problem using "dpkg -i" deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2018-01-16 08:30 +0100
            Re: Problem using "dpkg -i" Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-01-16 10:40 +0100
              Re: Problem using "dpkg -i" deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2018-01-16 19:00 +0100
                Re: Problem using "dpkg -i" Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-01-16 19:50 +0100
                  Re: Problem using "dpkg -i" bw <bwtnguy@yahoo.com> - 2018-01-16 20:20 +0100
                Re: Problem using "dpkg -i" Michael Lange <klappnase@freenet.de> - 2018-01-16 22:10 +0100
                  Re: Problem using "dpkg -i" Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-01-17 11:50 +0100
            Re: Problem using "dpkg -i" Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2018-01-16 14:10 +0100
        Re: Problem using "dpkg -i" Karol Augustin <karol@augustin.pl> - 2018-01-22 17:00 +0100
          Re: Problem using "dpkg -i" Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-01-24 13:10 +0100
    Installing and running legacy software (was  Re: Problem using "dpkg  -i") Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2018-01-15 11:00 +0100
      Re: Installing and running legacy software (was Re: Problem using  "dpkg -i") Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-01-15 13:00 +0100
        Re: Installing and running legacy software (was Re: Problem using  "dpkg -i") Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> - 2018-01-15 13:50 +0100
          Re: Installing and running legacy software (was Re: Problem using  "dpkg -i") Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-01-15 14:20 +0100
            Re: Installing and running legacy software (was Re: Problem using  "dpkg -i") bw <bwtnguy@yahoo.com> - 2018-01-15 17:20 +0100
              Re: Installing and running legacy software (was Re: Problem using  "dpkg -i") Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-01-15 18:30 +0100
                Re: Installing and running legacy software (was Re: Problem using  "dpkg -i") Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-01-15 20:20 +0100
    Re: Problem using "dpkg -i" Richard Hector <richard@walnut.gen.nz> - 2018-01-15 11:00 +0100
    Re: Problem using "dpkg -i" Sven Joachim <svenjoac@gmx.de> - 2018-01-15 18:40 +0100
      Re: Problem using "dpkg -i" Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-01-15 20:30 +0100
        Re: Problem using "dpkg -i" SDA <marathon.durandal@gmail.com> - 2018-01-18 03:50 +0100
        Re: Problem using "dpkg -i" Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-01-28 16:40 +0100
          Re: Problem using "dpkg -i" Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-01-28 18:20 +0100
            Re: Problem using "dpkg -i" Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-01-28 18:30 +0100
            Re: Problem using "dpkg -i" Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-01-28 21:20 +0100
              Re: Problem using "dpkg -i" Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-01-28 21:30 +0100

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#191209

On Tue, 16 Jan 2018 18:52:51 +0100
deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> wrote:

> Curt wrote:
> > 
> > I thought it was merely not recommended for upgrades.
> > 
> 
> might be we check to see what is official statement on that

Maybe Curt refers to the following from
https://www.debian.org/releases/stretch/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#upgradingpackages

"The recommended way to upgrade from previous Debian releases is to use
the package management tool apt-get. In previous releases, aptitude was
recommended for this purpose, but recent versions of apt-get provide
equivalent functionality and also have proven to more consistently give
the desired upgrade results. "

Regards

Michael


.-.. .. ...- .   .-.. --- -. --.   .- -. -..   .--. .-. --- ... .--. . .-.

It would be illogical to kill without reason.
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#191225

On 2018-01-16, Michael Lange <klappnase@freenet.de> wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Jan 2018 18:52:51 +0100
> deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Curt wrote:
>> > 
>> > I thought it was merely not recommended for upgrades.
>> > 
>> 
>> might be we check to see what is official statement on that
>
> Maybe Curt refers to the following from
> https://www.debian.org/releases/stretch/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#upgradingpackages
>
> "The recommended way to upgrade from previous Debian releases is to use
> the package management tool apt-get. In previous releases, aptitude was
> recommended for this purpose, but recent versions of apt-get provide
> equivalent functionality and also have proven to more consistently give
> the desired upgrade results. "

I was indeed; beyond that caveat above, I'm unaware of any obsolatation
(yeah, I made that word up) of aptitude.

> Regards
>
> Michael
>
>
> .-.. .. ...- .   .-.. --- -. --.   .- -. -..   .--. .-. --- ... .--. . .-.
>
> It would be illogical to kill without reason.
> 		-- Spock, "Journey to Babel", stardate 3842.4
>
>


-- 
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am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.  And though I have the gift
of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have
all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.

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#191191

On 01/15/2018 11:17 PM, deloptes wrote:
> Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> 
>> Instead of using apt, next time use aptitude -f install, reason is if
>> aptitude can not fix the problem it will give you a clue as what you can
>> do.  Also if you apt install and run 'upgrade-system' upgrade-system
>> will tell what to do, and clean your system too.
> 
> I thought aptitude was obsolated - never used it, but I think there was a
> thread on the list about

In my post I should have said: Instead of using apt-get, next time use 
apt -f install or aptitude -f install because the newer apt is also 
verbose like aptitude is. Aptitude is old but still verbose. Personally 
I use all of Debian's tools and when there is a problem, the more 
verbose the better.

Interesting, both aptitude and gdebi got upgrades in the wee hours of my 
morning.  Thank you Debian. :)
-- 
Jimmy Johnson

Debian Sid/Testing - KDE Plasma 5.10.5 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda8
Registered Linux User #380263

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#191410

On 2018-01-15 9:17, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 01/15/2018 02:25 AM, Bernd Gruber wrote:
>> Richard Owlett wrote:
>>>
>>> Received error message:
>>> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of amaya:
>>>    amaya depends on libssl0.9.8 (>= 0.9.8m-1); however:
>>>     Package libssl0.9.8 is not installed.

I know you have mentioned that the problem is fixed now but I feel that
it's worth mentioning a few things here:

libssl1.1 and libssl0.9.8 are completely different packages and you can
install them both at the same time. As it seems to be the only
dependency that is missing I would just download missing package that
seems to be available from Ubuntu repos:

https://pkgs.org/download/libssl0.9.8

And run apt-get install -f

It should fix your problem. The only downside (besides from using
abandonware) is that libssl0.9.8 might depend on something else and if
you decide to follow this route you might end up in a situation when
package you want to install is breaking/downgrading package from the
distribution you are using.

But as far as I remember obsolete libssl should be OK to just install
and use (and it won't have any impact on the other software).

Karol



>>
>> try apt-get -f install
>>
>> Bernd
> 
> I had already tried "fix broken" option in Synaptic.
> All it did was remove all pieces of Amaya.
> 
> I repeated
> dpkg -i /home/richard/Downloads/amaya_11.4.7-1_i386.deb
> followed by
> apt-get -f install
> with the same result ;<
> 
> Thanks.

-- 
Karol Augustin
karol@augustin.pl
http://karolaugustin.pl/
+353 85 775 5312

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#191476

On 01/22/2018 09:57 AM, Karol Augustin wrote:
> On 2018-01-15 9:17, Richard Owlett wrote:
>> On 01/15/2018 02:25 AM, Bernd Gruber wrote:
>>> Richard Owlett wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Received error message:
>>>> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of amaya:
>>>>     amaya depends on libssl0.9.8 (>= 0.9.8m-1); however:
>>>>      Package libssl0.9.8 is not installed.
> 
> I know you have mentioned that the problem is fixed now but I feel that
> it's worth mentioning a few things here:
> 
> libssl1.1 and libssl0.9.8 are completely different packages and you can
> install them both at the same time. As it seems to be the only
> dependency that is missing I would just download missing package that
> seems to be available from Ubuntu repos:
> 
> https://pkgs.org/download/libssl0.9.8
> 
> And run apt-get install -f
> 
> It should fix your problem. The only downside (besides from using
> abandonware) is that libssl0.9.8 might depend on something else and if
> you decide to follow this route you might end up in a situation when
> package you want to install is breaking/downgrading package from the
> distribution you are using.
> 
> But as far as I remember obsolete libssl should be OK to just install
> and use (and it won't have any impact on the other software).
> 

I have Debian installed on one partition whose sole purpose is 
experimenting. I may be able to try it this weekend.
Thank you.

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#191117 — Installing and running legacy software (was Re: Problem using "dpkg -i")

On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 01:32:07AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
>A long time ago I had used Amaya, a HTML editor available at 
><https://www.w3.org/Amaya/Distribution/amaya_11.4.7-1_i386.deb>.
>I know, it's OLD. But I've used it ;/
>
>I did:
>dpkg -i /home/richard/Downloads/amaya_11.4.7-1_i386.deb
>
>Received error message:
>dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of amaya:
> amaya depends on libssl0.9.8 (>= 0.9.8m-1); however:
>  Package libssl0.9.8 is not installed.
>
>However Synaptic indicates that libssl1.0.2 is installed.
>
>Questions:
>1. Can I "fix" the install?

The short answer is: yes, there are several approaches, I'll outline the
skeletons of some below, but they are quite complex and have caveats and
I would not recommend trying these for beginners (not that you are a
beginner...)

If you can source a package for libssl0.9.8, then you could try to
install that before the Amaya deb. However, depending on where you
got it from, you may find that it itself has other package dependencies
that you cannot satisfy in current Debian releases, and would need to
chase down too; if libssl0.9.8 or any other package like this conflicts
with another package that you have installed you could get into
problems, and there's also the issue of libssl0.9.8 being a security
critical package and out of security support.

You could try unpacking the Amaya deb, and seeing whether the binary
within would run even without the dependencies installed. Something
like:

    $ dpkg-deb -x ~richard/Downloads/amaya_11.4.7-1_i386.deb some-path
    $ ./some-path/usr/bin/amaya

If it complains specifically about libssl0.9.8 upon starting up, you
could experiment to see whether your more recent libssl would still work
in its place, as follows (something a bit like this)

    $ cd some-path # where you extracted the deb, above
    $ mkdir -p usr/lib
    $ cd usr/lib
    $ ln -s /usr/lib/i386*/libssl.so.1.0.0 libssl.so.0.9.8
    $ export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$(pwd)
    $ cd ../../
    $ ./usr/bin/amaya

If *that* worked, you could investigate repacking the amaya .deb with the
compatibility symlink in it and the dependencies edited, and installing
the result; or, just run it out of the unpacked location above.

However this is awkward, error prone etc.; out of scope for my mail here
but this class of problem is better addressed using container technology
IMHO, like Flatpak (or Docker at a pinch); but the work needs to be done
to prepare containers with legacy dependencies within them for such
software and that has not been done yet so far as I know.

>2. Is there a recommended HTML editor in the repository that"
>   A. simple UI
>   B. can render the code so I can tell if my changes display
>      as intended?

I can't answer this question because I am not familiar with a particular 
tool that does this, but I would recommend investigating this option
thoroughly before resorting to #1.


-- 

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#191122 — Re: Installing and running legacy software (was Re: Problem using "dpkg -i")

On 01/15/2018 03:57 AM, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 01:32:07AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
>> A long time ago I had used Amaya, a HTML editor available at 
>> <https://www.w3.org/Amaya/Distribution/amaya_11.4.7-1_i386.deb>.
>> I know, it's OLD. But I've used it ;/
>>
>> I did:
>> dpkg -i /home/richard/Downloads/amaya_11.4.7-1_i386.deb
>>
>> Received error message:
>> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of amaya:
>> amaya depends on libssl0.9.8 (>= 0.9.8m-1); however:
>>  Package libssl0.9.8 is not installed.
>>
>> However Synaptic indicates that libssl1.0.2 is installed.
>>
>> Questions:
>> 1. Can I "fix" the install?
> 
> The short answer is: yes, there are several approaches, I'll outline the
> skeletons of some below, but they are quite complex and have caveats and
> I would not recommend trying these for beginners (not that you are a
> beginner...)

Years do not necessarily mean expertise ;/

> 
> [snip]
> 
> If *that* worked, you could investigate repacking the amaya .deb with the
> compatibility symlink in it and the dependencies edited, and installing
> the result; or, just run it out of the unpacked location above.
> 
> However this is awkward, error prone etc.; out of scope for my mail here
> but this class of problem is better addressed using container technology
> IMHO, like Flatpak (or Docker at a pinch); but the work needs to be done
> to prepare containers with legacy dependencies within them for such
> software and that has not been done yet so far as I know.

Not sure I've competency to effectively follow your outline.
I was assuming I had a syntax error of some sort.
> 
>> 2. Is there a recommended HTML editor in the repository that"
>>   A. simple UI
>>   B. can render the code so I can tell if my changes display
>>      as intended?
> 
> I can't answer this question because I am not familiar with a particular 
> tool that does this, but I would recommend investigating this option
> thoroughly before resorting to #1.
> 
> 

No argument ;/
I've WinXP box. I'll try the Windows version. It wont be as convenient 
but as it has no internet connectivity the security issues should be 
minimized.

Thanks.

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#191125 — Re: Installing and running legacy software (was Re: Problem using "dpkg -i")

On 01/15/2018 06:53 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 01/15/2018 03:57 AM, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
[big snip]
>>
>>> 2. Is there a recommended HTML editor in the repository that"
>>>   A. simple UI
>>>   B. can render the code so I can tell if my changes display
>>>      as intended?
>>
>> I can't answer this question because I am not familiar with a 
>> particular tool that does this, but I would recommend investigating 
>> this option
>> thoroughly before resorting to #1.
>>
>>
>
> No argument ;/
> I've WinXP box. I'll try the Windows version. It wont be as convenient 
> but as it has no internet connectivity the security issues should be 
> minimized.
>
You might look at SeaMonkey, a community continuation of the old integrated
browser/mailer/HTML editor that Netscape originally released. I found 
its HTML
editing function pretty usable back when I needed it.

https://wiki.debian.org/Seamonkey

-- 
Carl Fink          carl@finknetwork.com
Thinking and logic and stuff at Reasonably Literate
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#191129 — Re: Installing and running legacy software (was Re: Problem using "dpkg -i")

On 01/15/2018 06:42 AM, Carl Fink wrote:
> On 01/15/2018 06:53 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
>> On 01/15/2018 03:57 AM, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> [big snip]
>>>
>>>> 2. Is there a recommended HTML editor in the repository that"
>>>>   A. simple UI
>>>>   B. can render the code so I can tell if my changes display
>>>>      as intended?
>>>
>>> I can't answer this question because I am not familiar with a 
>>> particular tool that does this, but I would recommend investigating 
>>> this option
>>> thoroughly before resorting to #1.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> No argument ;/
>> I've WinXP box. I'll try the Windows version. It wont be as convenient 
>> but as it has no internet connectivity the security issues should be 
>> minimized.
>>
> You might look at SeaMonkey, a community continuation of the old integrated
> browser/mailer/HTML editor that Netscape originally released. I found 
> its HTML
> editing function pretty usable back when I needed it.
> 
> https://wiki.debian.org/Seamonkey
> 

*ROFL* !!!!
I started with Netscape 4 and have ignored Firefox/Thunderbird.
I currently have SeaMonkey 2.49.1 
<https://download.mozilla.org/?product=seamonkey-2.49.1&os=linux&lang=en-US>.

Composer choked on the file I was trying to edit.
Years ago I had run into a particular file which Composer had problems.
At the time I discovered Amaya.

I solved the problem using brute force. So time pressure is reduced.

Thank you.

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#191141 — Re: Installing and running legacy software (was Re: Problem using "dpkg -i")

On Mon, 15 Jan 2018, Richard Owlett wrote:

> *ROFL* !!!!
> I started with Netscape 4 and have ignored Firefox/Thunderbird.
> I currently have SeaMonkey 2.49.1
> <https://download.mozilla.org/?product=seamonkey-2.49.1&os=linux&lang=en-US>.
> 
> Composer choked on the file I was trying to edit.
> Years ago I had run into a particular file which Composer had problems.
> At the time I discovered Amaya.
> 
> I solved the problem using brute force. So time pressure is reduced.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

I used seamonkey yrs ago also, then iceape composer when it was in the 
repo.  The composer wrote awful code, but for a simple wysiwyg, it wasn't 
bad.

For simple html these days I find nano/dillo combination very nice.  Dillo 
browser is very good at finding mistakes in html, and nano... well what 
can I say?

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#191145 — Re: Installing and running legacy software (was Re: Problem using "dpkg -i")

On 01/15/2018 10:12 AM, bw wrote:
> 
> 
> On Mon, 15 Jan 2018, Richard Owlett wrote:
> 
>> *ROFL* !!!!
>> I started with Netscape 4 and have ignored Firefox/Thunderbird.
>> I currently have SeaMonkey 2.49.1
>> <https://download.mozilla.org/?product=seamonkey-2.49.1&os=linux&lang=en-US>.
>>
>> Composer choked on the file I was trying to edit.
>> Years ago I had run into a particular file which Composer had problems.
>> At the time I discovered Amaya.
>>
>> I solved the problem using brute force. So time pressure is reduced.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> 
> I used seamonkey yrs ago also, then iceape composer when it was in the
> repo.  The composer wrote awful code, but for a simple wysiwyg, it wasn't
> bad.
> 
> For simple html these days I find nano/dillo combination very nice.  Dillo
> browser is very good at finding mistakes in html, and nano... well what
> can I say?
> 
> 

As I'm retired, snowed in, and not interested in house cleaning I'll 
download both and experiment.

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#191152 — Re: Installing and running legacy software (was Re: Problem using "dpkg -i")

On 01/15/2018 11:26 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 01/15/2018 10:12 AM, bw wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 15 Jan 2018, Richard Owlett wrote:
>>
>>> *ROFL* !!!!
>>> I started with Netscape 4 and have ignored Firefox/Thunderbird.
>>> I currently have SeaMonkey 2.49.1
>>> <https://download.mozilla.org/?product=seamonkey-2.49.1&os=linux&lang=en-US>. 
>>>
>>>
>>> Composer choked on the file I was trying to edit.
>>> Years ago I had run into a particular file which Composer had problems.
>>> At the time I discovered Amaya.
>>>
>>> I solved the problem using brute force. So time pressure is reduced.
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I used seamonkey yrs ago also, then iceape composer when it was in the
>> repo.  The composer wrote awful code, but for a simple wysiwyg, it wasn't
>> bad.
>>
>> For simple html these days I find nano/dillo combination very nice.  
>> Dillo
>> browser is very good at finding mistakes in html, and nano... well what
>> can I say?
>>
>>
> 
> As I'm retired, snowed in, and not interested in house cleaning I'll 
> download both and experiment.

It is advertised as small, not as full-featured.
For the page that started this JavaScript turned out to be part of the 
problem. It doesn't do that ;/

I found Amayaon my dusty WinXP box. It also doesn't do JavaScript.

I'd have another problem with it. I see no way to increase the font size 
to make it readable.

Thank you

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#191119

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On 15/01/18 20:32, Richard Owlett wrote:
> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of amaya:
>  amaya depends on libssl0.9.8 (>= 0.9.8m-1); however:
>   Package libssl0.9.8 is not installed.
> 
> However Synaptic indicates that libssl1.0.2 is installed.

The different (libssl) package name (not just the version) suggests that
it's probably not compatible (ABI change).

You'd probably need to build it yourself.

Richard

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#191146

On 2018-01-15 01:32 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:

> A long time ago I had used Amaya, a HTML editor available at
> <https://www.w3.org/Amaya/Distribution/amaya_11.4.7-1_i386.deb>.
> I know, it's OLD. But I've used it ;/
>
> I did:
> dpkg -i /home/richard/Downloads/amaya_11.4.7-1_i386.deb
>
> Received error message:
> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of amaya:
>  amaya depends on libssl0.9.8 (>= 0.9.8m-1); however:
>   Package libssl0.9.8 is not installed.

> Questions:
> 1. Can I "fix" the install?

Get libssl0.9.8 from snapshot.debian.org[1].  Probably version
0.9.8o-4squeeze23[2] is the one you want, it appears to be the last
security upload for squeeze-lts.

> 2. Is there a recommended HTML editor in the repository that"
>    A. simple UI
>    B. can render the code so I can tell if my changes display
>       as intended?

There is bluefish, but it only supports previews via an external browser
(according to the package description, I have not used it myself).

Cheers,
       Sven


1. http://snapshot.debian.org/binary/libssl0.9.8/
2. http://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian-archive/20160313T130328Z/debian/pool/main/o/openssl/libssl0.9.8_0.9.8o-4squeeze23_i386.deb

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#191153

On 01/15/2018 11:38 AM, Sven Joachim wrote:
> On 2018-01-15 01:32 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
>> [snip]
>> 2. Is there a recommended HTML editor in the repository that"
>>     A. simple UI
>>     B. can render the code so I can tell if my changes display
>>        as intended?
> 
> There is bluefish, but it only supports previews via an external browser
> (according to the package description, I have not used it myself).
> 

Not for this project. But the manual hints it would useful for other 
things. Much reading ahead.

Thanks

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#191252

On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 01:23:30PM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 01/15/2018 11:38 AM, Sven Joachim wrote:
> > On 2018-01-15 01:32 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
> > > [snip]
> > > 2. Is there a recommended HTML editor in the repository that"
> > >     A. simple UI
> > >     B. can render the code so I can tell if my changes display
> > >        as intended?
> > 
> > There is bluefish, but it only supports previews via an external browser
> > (according to the package description, I have not used it myself).
> > 
> 
> Not for this project. But the manual hints it would useful for other things.
> Much reading ahead.
> 
> Thanks
 
Bluefish isn't WYSIWYG, whereas Blue Griffon is - It's a pretty fair WebPage 
Editor. If you're not comfortable with markup, best use BlueGriffon. I've 
been happy with the latest version.
 

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#191686

On 01/15/2018 01:23 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 01/15/2018 11:38 AM, Sven Joachim wrote:
>> On 2018-01-15 01:32 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
>>> [snip]
>>> 2. Is there a recommended HTML editor in the repository that"
>>>     A. simple UI
>>>     B. can render the code so I can tell if my changes display
>>>        as intended?
>>
>> There is bluefish, but it only supports previews via an external browser
>> (according to the package description, I have not used it myself).
>>
> 
> Not for this project. But the manual hints it would useful for other 
> things. Much reading ahead.


I just installed version 2.2.9 from Debian repository for an new project.
I just went to the bluefish web site. The manual is difficult to use as 
I frequently have minimal access. Is it available somewhere as a single 
HTML file?
TIA

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#191689

On 2018-01-28, Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> There is bluefish, but it only supports previews via an external browser
>>> (according to the package description, I have not used it myself).
>>>
>> 
>> Not for this project. But the manual hints it would useful for other 
>> things. Much reading ahead.
>
>
> I just installed version 2.2.9 from Debian repository for an new project.
> I just went to the bluefish web site. The manual is difficult to use as 
> I frequently have minimal access. Is it available somewhere as a single 
> HTML file?
> TIA

Seems you can download the manual source files from sourceforge.net and
build an HTML/Postscript/PDF version yourself (although the rigmarole
involved may be more than you're willing to endure).

http://bluefish.openoffice.nl/manual/apcs03.html
(and the following page too)

-- 
“True terror is to wake up one morning and discover that your high school class
is running the country.” – Kurt Vonnegut

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#191690

On Sun 28 Jan 2018 at 17:13:54 +0000, Curt wrote:

> On 2018-01-28, Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> There is bluefish, but it only supports previews via an external browser
> >>> (according to the package description, I have not used it myself).
> >>>
> >> 
> >> Not for this project. But the manual hints it would useful for other 
> >> things. Much reading ahead.
> >
> >
> > I just installed version 2.2.9 from Debian repository for an new project.
> > I just went to the bluefish web site. The manual is difficult to use as 
> > I frequently have minimal access. Is it available somewhere as a single 
> > HTML file?
> > TIA
> 
> Seems you can download the manual source files from sourceforge.net and
> build an HTML/Postscript/PDF version yourself (although the rigmarole
> involved may be more than you're willing to endure).
> 
> http://bluefish.openoffice.nl/manual/apcs03.html
> (and the following page too)

Looks like an interesting link and an opportunity to learn about CVS and
DocBook. Using wget could be more convenient.

-- 
Brian.

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#191697

On 01/28/2018 11:13 AM, Curt wrote:
> On 2018-01-28, Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> There is bluefish, but it only supports previews via an external browser
>>>> (according to the package description, I have not used it myself).
>>>>
>>>
>>> Not for this project. But the manual hints it would useful for other
>>> things. Much reading ahead.
>>
>>
>> I just installed version 2.2.9 from Debian repository for an new project.
>> I just went to the bluefish web site. The manual is difficult to use as
>> I frequently have minimal access. Is it available somewhere as a single
>> HTML file?
>> TIA
> 
> Seems you can download the manual source files from sourceforge.net and
> build an HTML/Postscript/PDF version yourself (although the rigmarole
> involved may be more than you're willing to endure).
> 
> http://bluefish.openoffice.nl/manual/apcs03.html
> (and the following page too)
> 

That link led me to http://bluefish.openoffice.nl/manual/bk01-toc.html 
which I downloaded with WebHTTrack Website Copier.

That is a *MUCH* more useful format than
   <https://bfwiki.tellefsen.net/index.php/Manual_2_ToC>
to which
   <http://bluefish.openoffice.nl/download.html>
points.

Problem solved :}
Thank you.

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