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  akondadi - should be really improved! Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> - 2018-06-07 21:20 +0200
    Re: akondadi - should be really improved! deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 01:30 +0200
    Re: akondadi - should be really improved! Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2018-06-08 08:00 +0200
    Re: akondadi - should be really improved! mark@neidorff.com - 2018-06-11 21:00 +0200
      Re: akondadi - should be really improved! Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> - 2018-06-11 21:10 +0200
        Re: akondadi - should be really improved! deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2018-06-12 01:00 +0200

#196473 — akondadi - should be really improved!

Hi folks, 

just a little feedback. IMO akonadi in kmail should be either really improved 
or dropped.

I do not want to mourne, as I know, there is lots of work done in free time, 
but akonadi at the moment (better since the change to akonadi in kmail) is 
pita.

Akonadi is slow, really slow. If you want to delete lots of mails in one line, 
it does not. You have to delete one after the other, which is annoying.

And even this is not always working. Rather often it hangs. Then you have to 
click to another folder (i.e. sent mail), then click the desired folder where 
you want to delete the mails and you can go on.

Looks like fast deletion is not possible.

Don't know if anyone got into the same trouble, but IMO akonadi should be 
improved.

Please don't mind, best regards

Hans

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#196477

Hans wrote:

> Don't know if anyone got into the same trouble, but IMO akonadi should be
> improved.

yes long time ago. I think it was 2008. Since then I use TDE which is old
KDE3. I am not advertising, but KDE >= 4 is PITA in itself.

regards

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On Thu, 07 Jun 2018 21:18:01 +0200
Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> wrote:

Hello Hans,

>just a little feedback. IMO akonadi in kmail should be either really
>improved or dropped.

That's a kmail/akonadi issue, not specifically a Debian one.  The
relevant Debian packaging team(s) are probably not involved directly in
developing KMail or akonadi.

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#196575

On Thursday, June 7, 2018 3:18:01 PM EDT Hans wrote:
> Hi folks,
> 
> just a little feedback. IMO akonadi in kmail should be either really
> improved or dropped.
> 
> I do not want to mourne, as I know, there is lots of work done in free time,
> but akonadi at the moment (better since the change to akonadi in kmail) is
> pita.
> 
> Akonadi is slow, really slow. If you want to delete lots of mails in one
> line, it does not. You have to delete one after the other, which is
> annoying.
> 
> And even this is not always working. Rather often it hangs. Then you have to
> click to another folder (i.e. sent mail), then click the desired folder
> where you want to delete the mails and you can go on.
> 
> Looks like fast deletion is not possible.
> 
> Don't know if anyone got into the same trouble, but IMO akonadi should be
> improved.
> 
> Please don't mind, best regards
> 
> Hans

Hans,

I'm running KMail version 5.5.2.  From what you report, it sounds to me like 
you are running an older version.  The version I run allows me to select 
multiple e-mails and delete them all at once.  To be fair, all is not perfect.  
Sometimes an e-mail comes in which can not be deleted.  To deal with that, I 
downloaded and use akonadiconsole.  Once you get the hang of it (took me about 
5 minutes) you can find and delete those e-mails easily.

(for others) I do not want to enter into the Trinity vs current version 
debate.

Best of luck,

Mark

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#196576

Hi Mark,
> Hans,
> 
> I'm running KMail version 5.5.2.  From what you report, it sounds to me like
> you are running an older version.  The version I run allows me to select

No, I don't. Mine is version 5.7.3 (debian/testing). But that is not the 
point. The point is, that akonadi is slow from the beginning on.

> multiple e-mails and delete them all at once.  To be fair, all is not
> perfect. Sometimes an e-mail comes in which can not be deleted.  To deal
> with that, I downloaded and use akonadiconsole.  Once you get the hang of
> it (took me about 5 minutes) you can find and delete those e-mails easily.
> 

Yes, and this behavior appears also from the beginning on. It is annoying. I 
had the hope, that it will be fixed some day. But it is not, even after years.
I do not want to blame someone, as I respect the time and efforts, the 
developers give for the community. But when it is not fixed, maybe it should 
be dropped. 
> (for others) I do not want to enter into the Trinity vs current version
> debate.
> 

I am using Trinity besides Plasma, but kmail-trinity and kmail-plasma can not 
use the same mail share. At the moment I just sync two mail folders. 
On the other hand, it is impressive, how smooth Trinity is running and you 
see, that there is a lot of heartblood in it.

> Best of luck,
> 
> Mark

Best regards

Hans

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#196581

Hans wrote:

> Yes, and this behavior appears also from the beginning on. It is annoying.
> I had the hope, that it will be fixed some day. But it is not, even after
> years. I do not want to blame someone, as I respect the time and efforts,
> the developers give for the community. But when it is not fixed, maybe it
> should be dropped.

it's just a mysql/mariadb in the backend of akonadi. If you use filebackend
move to mysql.

>> (for others) I do not want to enter into the Trinity vs current version
>> debate.
>> 
> 
> I am using Trinity besides Plasma, but kmail-trinity and kmail-plasma can
> not use the same mail share. At the moment I just sync two mail folders.
> On the other hand, it is impressive, how smooth Trinity is running and you
> see, that there is a lot of heartblood in it.

It is something like old school vs. new school. The old soldier shoots has
more experience, but also older armor. The new one is not so experienced,
but has modern armor.
I must admit with qt5 things improve, but still too fragile for my taste.
I wish KDE would finally focus on stability.

regards

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