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Upgrade from Jessie to Stretch: Bluetooth mouse is not working.

Started byPiotr Martyniuk <zaxonxp45@gmail.com>
First post2018-05-29 16:00 +0200
Last post2018-05-31 21:40 +0200
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  Upgrade from Jessie to Stretch: Bluetooth mouse is not working. Piotr Martyniuk <zaxonxp45@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 16:00 +0200
    Re: Upgrade from Jessie to Stretch: Bluetooth mouse is not working. "Martin McCormick" <martin.m@suddenlink.net> - 2018-05-29 19:10 +0200
      Re: Upgrade from Jessie to Stretch: Bluetooth mouse is not working. Piotr <zaxonxp45@gmail.com> - 2018-05-31 09:40 +0200
        Re: Upgrade from Jessie to Stretch: Bluetooth mouse is not working. "Martin McCormick" <martin.m@suddenlink.net> - 2018-05-31 18:10 +0200
    Re: Upgrade from Jessie to Stretch: Bluetooth mouse is not working. deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 23:00 +0200
      Re: Upgrade from Jessie to Stretch: Bluetooth mouse is not working. deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2018-05-31 12:20 +0200
        Re: Upgrade from Jessie to Stretch: Bluetooth mouse is not working. Piotr <zaxonxp45@gmail.com> - 2018-05-31 14:10 +0200
          Re: Upgrade from Jessie to Stretch: Bluetooth mouse is not working. Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-05-31 14:50 +0200
          Re: Upgrade from Jessie to Stretch: Bluetooth mouse is not working. deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2018-05-31 15:10 +0200
            Re: Upgrade from Jessie to Stretch: Bluetooth mouse is not working. Piotr <zaxonxp45@gmail.com> - 2018-05-31 15:30 +0200
              Re: Upgrade from Jessie to Stretch: Bluetooth mouse is not working. deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2018-05-31 21:40 +0200

#196198 — Upgrade from Jessie to Stretch: Bluetooth mouse is not working.

FromPiotr Martyniuk <zaxonxp45@gmail.com>
Date2018-05-29 16:00 +0200
SubjectUpgrade from Jessie to Stretch: Bluetooth mouse is not working.
Message-ID<vUNkm-4vu-15@gated-at.bofh.it>

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 Dear all,

Recently I upgraded from Jessie to Stretch in order to be able to install
new
package versions.
The upgrade seems to be successful (I did not have any errors in the
process),
but I noticed that the Blue tooth mouse is not working (it was working fine
in
Jessie).

I am using USB dongle for blue-tooth connections. I can pair the mouse and
connect to it. However moving a mouse and/or clicking has no effect (cursor
stays where it was, clicks are not recognized).

I would include more info (output from some commands, logs), however I am
not
sure what is relevant, so I would need some guidance in this.

Kind regards,
Piotr



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#196206

From"Martin McCormick" <martin.m@suddenlink.net>
Date2018-05-29 19:10 +0200
Message-ID<vUQie-6qU-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#196198
Piotr Martyniuk <zaxonxp45@gmail.com> writes:
>  Dear all,
> 
> Recently I upgraded from Jessie to Stretch in order to be able to install
> new
> package versions.
> The upgrade seems to be successful (I did not have any errors in the
> process),
> but I noticed that the Blue tooth mouse is not working (it was working 
> fine
> in
> Jessie).
> 
> I am using USB dongle for blue-tooth connections. I can pair the mouse and
> connect to it. However moving a mouse and/or clicking has no effect 
> (cursor
> stays where it was, clicks are not recognized).
> 
> I would include more info (output from some commands, logs), however I am
> not
> sure what is relevant, so I would need some guidance in this.
> 
> Kind regards,
> Piotr

	You might get some information from dmesg.  dmesg lists
all the electronic devices your system knows about when it booted
up such as sound cards, disk controllers and network interfaces.
Your computer should make note of the bluetooth interface and
might even throw an error message if it doesn't like something
about it.  The mouse should pair with the bluetooth system on
your computer and since your installation is an upgrade, this may
be an indication of trouble with the module associated with the
mouse.

	You can also see which modules your system loaded on boot
by using the command

lsmod

At least this is true in a number of Linux versions.  You don't
even have to be root.

wb5agz martin tmp $lsmod
Module                  Size  Used by
binfmt_misc            20480  1
fuse                   90112  1
ppdev                  20480  0
dcdbas                 16384  0
nouveau              1359872  1
pcspkr                 16384  0
serio_raw              16384  0
evdev                  20480  1
mxm_wmi                16384  1 nouveau
snd_usb_audio         131072  0
wmi                    16384  2 mxm_wmi,nouveau
psmouse               118784  0
scsi_mod              180224  6 sd_mod,usb_storage,libata,uas,sr_mod,sg
3c59x                  45056  0
mii                    16384  1 3c59x
usbcore               184320  12 usbhid,snd_usb_audio,usb_storage,ehci_hcd,ohci_pci,uhci_hcd,ftdi_sio,usbserial,snd_usbmidi_lib,uas,ohci_hcd,ehci_pci
i2c_piix4              20480  0
usb_common             16384  1 usbcore
floppy                 57344  0

	Those were just some of the 81 modules that popped up on
the old Dell Dimension I am using, here.

	Notice the psmouse module.  You'll hopefully have something
comparable for the bluetooth mouse.  It may not appear until you
try to pair your mouse with bluetooth.

	Finally, there is a file in /etc called modules.  Any
module whose name appears on a line in that file will be loaded
on boot.  I used to have trouble on this system with sound from
the built-in sound chip set on the mother board.  It would
usually be a no-show as sound card 0 and a usb sound card would
intermittently show up as card 0.  By using /etc/modules to load
the sound module for the built-in card, it is always card 0.

	Use that feature carefully since modules you don't
actually need just waste resources.

	That should get you started with an afternoon of
head-scratching/banging as these things can be frustrating so
patience is a virtue.

Martin McCormick WB5AGZ since October 1969 Alive since 1951.

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#196281

FromPiotr <zaxonxp45@gmail.com>
Date2018-05-31 09:40 +0200
Message-ID<vVqlH-2hi-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#196206
On Tue, 29 May 2018 12:01:20 -0500
"Martin McCormick" <martin.m@suddenlink.net> wrote:

 
> 	You might get some information from dmesg.  dmesg lists
> all the electronic devices your system knows about when it booted
> up such as sound cards, disk controllers and network interfaces.
> Your computer should make note of the bluetooth interface and
> might even throw an error message if it doesn't like something
> about it.  The mouse should pair with the bluetooth system on
> your computer and since your installation is an upgrade, this may
> be an indication of trouble with the module associated with the
> mouse.

dmesg gave me this (relevant lines when BT mouse was connected)

[ 4218.671838] hid-generic 0005:0A5C:0001.0004: unknown main item tag 0x0
[ 4218.676386] input: Bluetooth 3.0 Mouse as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.0/usb2/2-1/2-1:1.0/bluetooth/hci0/hci0:3/0005:0A5C:0001.0004/input/input21
[ 4218.679232] hid-generic 0005:0A5C:0001.0004: input,hidraw1: BLUETOOTH HID v1.29 Mouse [Bluetooth 3.0 Mouse] on 00:15:83:0c:bf:eb
[ 4245.882600] hid-generic 0005:0A5C:0001.0005: unknown main item tag 0x0
[ 4245.885751] input: Bluetooth 3.0 Mouse as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.0/usb2/2-1/2-1:1.0/bluetooth/hci0/hci0:4/0005:0A5C:0001.0005/input/input22
[ 4245.887779] hid-generic 0005:0A5C:0001.0005: input,hidraw1: BLUETOOTH HID v1.29 Mouse [Bluetooth 3.0 Mouse] on 00:15:83:0c:bf:eb
[ 4276.111082] hid-generic 0005:0A5C:0001.0006: unknown main item tag 0x0
[ 4276.115032] input: Bluetooth 3.0 Mouse as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.0/usb2/2-1/2-1:1.0/bluetooth/hci0/hci0:5/0005:0A5C:0001.0006/input/input23
[ 4276.118450] hid-generic 0005:0A5C:0001.0006: input,hidraw1:
BLUETOOTH HID v1.29 Mouse [Bluetooth 3.0 Mouse] on 00:15:83:0c:bf:eb

But I do not know what should I do with this.

> 
> 	You can also see which modules your system loaded on boot
> by using the command
> 
> lsmod

Module                  Size  Used by
hidp                   24576  0
hid_generic            16384  0
usbhid                 45056  0
hid                    94208  3 hid_generic,usbhid,hidp
rfcomm                 53248  12
ctr                    16384  4
ccm                    20480  2
fuse                   90112  5
l2tp_ppp               24576  0
l2tp_netlink           20480  1 l2tp_ppp
l2tp_core              24576  2 l2tp_ppp,l2tp_netlink
ip6_udp_tunnel         16384  1 l2tp_core
udp_tunnel             16384  1 l2tp_core
pppox                  16384  1 l2tp_ppp
ppp_generic            32768  2 l2tp_ppp,pppox
slhc                   16384  1 ppp_generic
vboxnetadp             32768  0
vboxnetflt             28672  0
xfrm_user              36864  2
xfrm4_tunnel           16384  0
tunnel4                16384  1 xfrm4_tunnel
ipcomp                 16384  0
xfrm_ipcomp            16384  1 ipcomp
esp4                   20480  0
ah4                    20480  0
af_key                 36864  0
xfrm_algo              16384  5 xfrm_user,esp4,ah4,af_key,xfrm_ipcomp
vboxdrv               303104  2 vboxnetadp,vboxnetflt
bnep                   20480  2
binfmt_misc            20480  1
iTCO_wdt               16384  0
iTCO_vendor_support    16384  1 iTCO_wdt
uvcvideo               77824  0
videobuf2_vmalloc      16384  1 uvcvideo
videobuf2_memops       16384  1 videobuf2_vmalloc
videobuf2_v4l2         20480  1 uvcvideo
videobuf2_core         36864  2 uvcvideo,videobuf2_v4l2
btusb                  36864  0
btrtl                  16384  1 btusb
videodev              131072  3 uvcvideo,videobuf2_core,videobuf2_v4l2
btbcm                  16384  1 btusb
btintel                16384  1 btusb
media                  28672  2 uvcvideo,videodev
arc4                   16384  2
bluetooth             434176  40 btrtl,hidp,btintel,bnep,btbcm,rfcomm,btusb
ath9k                  90112  0
ath9k_common           32768  1 ath9k
ath9k_hw              425984  2 ath9k,ath9k_common
ath                    24576  3 ath9k_hw,ath9k,ath9k_common
mac80211              552960  1 ath9k
samsung_laptop         20480  0
coretemp               16384  0
cfg80211              450560  4 mac80211,ath9k,ath,ath9k_common
pcspkr                 16384  0
joydev                 20480  0
evdev                  20480  22
rfkill                 20480  7 bluetooth,samsung_laptop,cfg80211
serio_raw              16384  0
i915                 1183744  3
snd_hda_codec_realtek    73728  1
lpc_ich                20480  0
snd_hda_codec_generic    65536  1 snd_hda_codec_realtek
mfd_core               16384  1 lpc_ich
snd_hda_intel          28672  3
sg                     32768  0
rng_core               16384  0
snd_hda_codec          94208  3 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_codec_realtek
drm_kms_helper        114688  1 i915
snd_hda_core           57344  4 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_codec_realtek
snd_hwdep              16384  1 snd_hda_codec
battery                20480  0
drm                   253952  5 i915,drm_kms_helper
snd_pcm                86016  3 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_core
snd_timer              28672  1 snd_pcm
snd                    57344  13 snd_hda_intel,snd_hwdep,snd_hda_codec,snd_timer,snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_pcm
soundcore              16384  1 snd
i2c_algo_bit           16384  1 i915
shpchp                 32768  0
ac                     16384  0
video                  36864  2 samsung_laptop,i915
acpi_cpufreq           20480  1
button                 16384  1 i915
parport_pc             28672  0
sunrpc                249856  1
ppdev                  20480  0
lp                     20480  0
parport                40960  3 lp,parport_pc,ppdev
ip_tables              20480  0
x_tables               20480  1 ip_tables
autofs4                36864  2
ext4                  499712  3
crc16                  16384  2 bluetooth,ext4
jbd2                   77824  1 ext4
crc32c_generic         16384  0
fscrypto               24576  1 ext4
ecb                    16384  0
lrw                    16384  0
ablk_helper            16384  0
cryptd                 20480  1 ablk_helper
aes_i586               20480  5
mbcache                16384  4 ext4
xts                    16384  3
gf128mul               20480  2 lrw,xts
algif_skcipher         20480  0
af_alg                 16384  1 algif_skcipher
dm_crypt               24576  1
dm_mod                 94208  12 dm_crypt
sd_mod                 40960  3
ata_generic            16384  0
psmouse               118784  0
ata_piix               32768  2
i2c_i801               24576  0
i2c_smbus              16384  1 i2c_i801
libata                192512  2 ata_piix,ata_generic
scsi_mod              180224  3 sd_mod,libata,sg
uhci_hcd               40960  0
ehci_pci               16384  0
ehci_hcd               65536  1 ehci_pci
usbcore               184320  6 uvcvideo,usbhid,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd,btusb,ehci_pci
usb_common             16384  1 usbcore
r8169                  77824  0
mii                    16384  1 r8169
fan                    16384  0
thermal                20480  0


> 
> 	Notice the psmouse module.  You'll hopefully have something
> comparable for the bluetooth mouse.  It may not appear until you
> try to pair your mouse with bluetooth.

I redirected lsmod when there was no BT mouse connection to file 1 and when it was connected to file 2. The "diff 1 2" gave this:

user@localhost:~$ diff 1 2
2c2
< hidp                   24576  0
---
> hidp                   24576  1
46c46
< bluetooth             434176  40 btrtl,hidp,btintel,bnep,btbcm,rfcomm,btusb
---
> bluetooth             434176  44 btrtl,hidp,btintel,bnep,btbcm,rfcomm,btusb
57c57
< evdev                  20480  22
---
> evdev                  20480  23


> 	Finally, there is a file in /etc called modules.  Any
> module whose name appears on a line in that file will be loaded
> on boot. 

In my system the file only contains comments. 

> I used to have trouble on this system with sound from
> the built-in sound chip set on the mother board.  It would
> usually be a no-show as sound card 0 and a usb sound card would
> intermittently show up as card 0.  By using /etc/modules to load
> the sound module for the built-in card, it is always card 0.

Should I add some module in my case to this file?
 
> 	Use that feature carefully since modules you don't
> actually need just waste resources.
> 
> 	That should get you started with an afternoon of
> head-scratching/banging as these things can be frustrating so
> patience is a virtue.

Patience I have. What I do not is the knowledge where to look and which dots to connect.


Thanks for helping.

Regards,
Piotr

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#196299

From"Martin McCormick" <martin.m@suddenlink.net>
Date2018-05-31 18:10 +0200
Message-ID<vVyjf-7jW-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#196281
Piotr <zaxonxp45@gmail.com> writes:
> dmesg gave me this (relevant lines when BT mouse was connected)
> 
> [ 4218.671838] hid-generic 0005:0A5C:0001.0004: unknown main item tag 0x
0
> [ 4218.676386] input: Bluetooth 3.0 Mouse as 
> /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.0/usb2/2-1/2-1:1.0/bluetooth/hci0/hci0:3/0005:0A5C:0001.0004/input/input21
> [ 4218.679232] hid-generic 0005:0A5C:0001.0004: input,hidraw1: BLUETOOTH 
> HID v1.29 Mouse [Bluetooth 3.0 Mouse] on 00:15:83:0c:bf:eb
> [ 4245.882600] hid-generic 0005:0A5C:0001.0005: unknown main item tag 0x
0
> [ 4245.885751] input: Bluetooth 3.0 Mouse as 
> /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.0/usb2/2-1/2-1:1.0/bluetooth/hci0/hci0:4/0005:0A5C:0001.0005/input/input22
> [ 4245.887779] hid-generic 0005:0A5C:0001.0005: input,hidraw1: BLUETOOTH 
> HID v1.29 Mouse [Bluetooth 3.0 Mouse] on 00:15:83:0c:bf:eb
> [ 4276.111082] hid-generic 0005:0A5C:0001.0006: unknown main item tag 0x
0
> [ 4276.115032] input: Bluetooth 3.0 Mouse as 
> /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.0/usb2/2-1/2-1:1.0/bluetooth/hci0/hci0:5/0005:0A5C:0001.0006/input/input23
> [ 4276.118450] hid-generic 0005:0A5C:0001.0006: input,hidraw1:
> BLUETOOTH HID v1.29 Mouse [Bluetooth 3.0 Mouse] on 00:15:83:0c:bf:eb
> 
> But I do not know what should I do with this.

	It is basically an accident report stating that this
mouse won't work with that module.  

	You might search web archives and internet discussion
groups to see if there is a replacement driver for the mouse
which is a real shame since it used to work but that particular
module doesn't work which is valuable information but not, of
course, what you wanted to know.

	If you do find out that another kernel module or driver
does exist, that is the time to use /etc/modules to load it first
since the automatic detection is getting your the wrong one.

	I used to have an 8-port serial converter box with 8
RS-232 ports and a usb connector going to the computer.  It
needed a proprietary driver that the company did provide to
Linux users for free but no kernel modules loaded at all when you
connected the device without the driver.

	It worked fine until we had a gigantic electrical storm
one day and all 8 ports went deaf and mute forever even though it
appeared as though they were okay and just waiting to be
connected to something.

	The replacement 8-port box loads kernel modules and works
without any proprietary drivers.

	Can you get any other bluetooth device to pair and
actually work with the dongle such as a headset or keyboard?

	There are a lot of moving parts here such as the usb
driver for the dongle and then there is the communication between
the bluetooth device and the dongle.

	dmesg and syslog are very good tools in cases like this
but the messages you will read aren't always the answers to the
question of why this or that is happening.  They certainly do
help you ask new questions and sometimes rule out rabbit holes
you don't need to waste your time going down which is a blessing
as the world of making the technology work for you is a regular
warren of rabbit holes and anything that narrows down the
solution is a force multiplier.

	One guess is that the driver for the bluetooth dongle is
causing the grief because it sees events that it doesn't
understand from the mouse.  It should understand every mouse move
and button press so they can be passed on to the appropriate
function calls related to mouse activity. The OS has mouse
function calls and the driver translates mouse movement data in
to steps that are either along the X or Y axese.  It doesn't have
to do anything but feed those steps to the OS by making the
appropriate function calls for movement and clicks.  It
apparently can't do that so you need a different driver.

	It might also be that another bluetooth mouse speaks a
different language and the driver understands it and works
properly so I hope this gives you more food for thought.

	I don't really know anything specific to your problem so
I am speaking in generalities as I have seen a number of usb
devices such as a usb apple modem that shows activity in syslog
when you plug it in to a usb port but due to a lack of a driver,
it does absolutely nothing under Linux but get slightly warm to
the touch.  Plug it in to a Mac and you're in to the dialup
business.

Martin McCormick

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#196218

Fromdeloptes <deloptes@gmail.com>
Date2018-05-29 23:00 +0200
Message-ID<vUTSO-8kY-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#196198
Piotr Martyniuk wrote:

> I am using USB dongle for blue-tooth connections. I can pair the mouse and
> connect to it. However moving a mouse and/or clicking has no effect
> (cursor stays where it was, clicks are not recognized).

No make model for mouse or BT device in your PC.
I don't know if bluetooth in jessie was bluez4 or bluez5. It could be that
you are missing privileges. It all goes via dbus now.

Use 

dbus-monitor --system

and switch mouse on/off to reconnect. Tell us what you see. If mouse is
correctly discovered and selected by BT you have to look at higher level -
the X system.
First check if you have events captured by X perhaps with

xev


IMO it is somewhere inbetween those two actors.

regards

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#196283

Fromdeloptes <deloptes@gmail.com>
Date2018-05-31 12:20 +0200
Message-ID<vVsQx-3Yn-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#196218
Piotr wrote:

>> dbus-monitor --system
>> 
>> and switch mouse on/off to reconnect. Tell us what you see.
> 
> I see the change was logged when I connected BT mouse (see
> dbus-monitor.log)
> 
> 
>> If mouse is
>> correctly discovered and selected by BT you have to look at higher level
>> - the X system.
>> First check if you have events captured by X perhaps with
>> 
>> xev
> 
> xev gives me nothing when I use the BT mouse.
> 
> What next?

Excellent work Piotr.

You see all works fine until systemd gets in the game.
As I refused to use systemd I can't help much, but this needs to be
investigated

>
path=/org/freedesktop/systemd1/unit/sys_2ddevices_2dpci0000_3a00_2d0000_3a00_3a1d_2e0_2dusb2_2d2_5cx2d1_2d2_5cx2d1_3a1_2e0_2dbluetooth_2dhci0_2dhci0_3a9_2edevice;
> interface=org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties; member=PropertiesChanged string
> "org.freedesktop.systemd1.Unit" array [
> dict entry(
> string "ActiveState"
> variant             string "inactive"
> )
> dict entry(
> string "SubState"
> variant             string "dead"
> )


Here you see sender=:1.0 -> destination=(null destination)

signal time=1527752498.410215 sender=:1.0 -> destination=(null destination)
serial=4147 path=/org/freedesktop/systemd1;
interface=org.freedesktop.systemd1.Manager; member=UnitRemoved

Can you try booting without systemd ? You need sysvinit and add
init=/lib/sysvinit/init to your kernal command line.
When system is up check 

ps -A | head -3
  PID TTY          TIME CMD
    1 ?        00:00:33 init
    2 ?        00:00:01 kthreadd


Otherwise you should look for why systemd is not doing this right.

regards

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#196288

FromPiotr <zaxonxp45@gmail.com>
Date2018-05-31 14:10 +0200
Message-ID<vVuyZ-56p-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#196283
On Thu, 31 May 2018 12:10:13 +0200
deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> wrote:

> You see all works fine until systemd gets in the game.
> As I refused to use systemd I can't help much, but this needs to be
> investigated

Was Jessie already using systemd by default? If "yes" then maybe this is not the source of the problem as the mouse was working correctly on Jessie? 

I connected another BT controller (chinese MOCUTE BT controller, which can be used as keypad or mouse) and it was working correctly. 


> Here you see sender=:1.0 -> destination=(null destination)
> 
> signal time=1527752498.410215 sender=:1.0 -> destination=(null destination)
> serial=4147 path=/org/freedesktop/systemd1;
> interface=org.freedesktop.systemd1.Manager; member=UnitRemoved
> 
> Can you try booting without systemd ? You need sysvinit and add
> init=/lib/sysvinit/init to your kernal command line.
> When system is up check 
> 
> ps -A | head -3
>   PID TTY          TIME CMD
>     1 ?        00:00:33 init
>     2 ?        00:00:01 kthreadd

OK, I booted as you suggested, but the mouse problem remains. Any other suggestions?

Regards,
Piotr

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#196289

FromGreg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org>
Date2018-05-31 14:50 +0200
Message-ID<vVvbH-5iL-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#196288
On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 02:00:10PM +0200, Piotr wrote:
> Was Jessie already using systemd by default?

Yes.  Both on new installs and on upgrades from wheezy.

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#196290

Fromdeloptes <deloptes@gmail.com>
Date2018-05-31 15:10 +0200
Message-ID<vVvv3-5E9-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#196288
Piotr wrote:

>> ps -A | head -3
>> PID TTY          TIME CMD
>> 1 ?        00:00:33 init
>> 2 ?        00:00:01 kthreadd
> 
> OK, I booted as you suggested, but the mouse problem remains. Any other
> suggestions?

you sure about init? ps -A | head -3

so what is the dbus-monitor output now

regards

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#196291

FromPiotr <zaxonxp45@gmail.com>
Date2018-05-31 15:30 +0200
Message-ID<vVvOp-5JX-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#196290

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On Thu, 31 May 2018 14:58:59 +0200
deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> wrote:

> you sure about init? ps -A | head -3

This is what I got.

user@localhost:~$ ps -A | head -3
  PID TTY          TIME CMD
    1 ?        00:00:01 init
    2 ?        00:00:00 kthreadd


> so what is the dbus-monitor output now

See the new log file. But still it says that destination is null.

What next to check?

Regards,
Piotr

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#196306

Fromdeloptes <deloptes@gmail.com>
Date2018-05-31 21:40 +0200
Message-ID<vVBAt-Ef-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#196291
Piotr wrote:

> See the new log file. But still it says that destination is null.
> 
> What next to check?

your log is not complete

it was seeing before

      dict entry(
         string "ActiveState"
         variant             string "inactive"
      )
      dict entry(
         string "SubState"
         variant             string "dead"
      )

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