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CD Burning Software

Started byHerb Garcia <portamex@garlic.com>
First post2018-05-19 20:40 +0200
Last post2018-05-21 11:50 +0200
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  CD Burning Software Herb Garcia <portamex@garlic.com> - 2018-05-19 20:40 +0200
    Re: CD Burning Software Ben Oliver <ben@bfoliver.com> - 2018-05-19 21:00 +0200
    Re: CD Burning Software Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> - 2018-05-19 21:00 +0200
    Re: CD Burning Software "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2018-05-19 21:10 +0200
    Re: CD Burning Software Abdullah Ramazanoğlu <ar018@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-19 21:20 +0200
      Re: CD Burning Software Ben Oliver <ben@bfoliver.com> - 2018-05-19 21:30 +0200
        Re: CD Burning Software "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2018-05-19 23:00 +0200
          Re: CD Burning Software Ben Oliver <ben@bfoliver.com> - 2018-05-19 23:40 +0200
      Re: CD Burning Software Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-05-20 13:40 +0200
        Re: CD Burning Software Abdullah Ramazanoğlu <ar018@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-21 00:00 +0200
          Re: CD Burning Software Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-05-21 09:20 +0200
    Re: CD Burning Software Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2018-05-20 01:00 +0200
    Re: CD Burning Software Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@surfnaked.ca> - 2018-05-20 05:20 +0200
      Re: CD Burning Software davidson <davidson@freevolt.org> - 2018-05-23 09:00 +0200
        Re: CD Burning Software Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> - 2018-05-23 09:00 +0200
          Re: CD Burning Software "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2018-05-23 10:40 +0200
            Re: CD Burning Software "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2018-05-23 12:20 +0200
    Re: ~ CD Burning Software Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2018-05-21 11:50 +0200

#195911 — CD Burning Software

FromHerb Garcia <portamex@garlic.com>
Date2018-05-19 20:40 +0200
SubjectCD Burning Software
Message-ID<vReVP-2K7-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
Hey everyone,

I'm running Mate on my laptop. I don't see a CD/DVD burning software
that came with the build. Any suggestions?

Thanks

HP Garcia

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#195912

FromBen Oliver <ben@bfoliver.com>
Date2018-05-19 21:00 +0200
Message-ID<vRffb-2Q5-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#195911
On 18-05-19 11:36:35, Herb Garcia wrote:
>I'm running Mate on my laptop. I don't see a CD/DVD burning software
>that came with the build. Any suggestions?

Don't do it much anymore but I always used K3b if I'm not using CLI 
tools.

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#195913

FromHans <hans.ullrich@loop.de>
Date2018-05-19 21:00 +0200
Message-ID<vRffc-2Q5-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#195911
Am Samstag, 19. Mai 2018, 20:36:35 CEST schrieb Herb Garcia:
Hi, 

look at "k3b" or "brasero".

Best

Hans
> Hey everyone,
> 
> I'm running Mate on my laptop. I don't see a CD/DVD burning software
> that came with the build. Any suggestions?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> HP Garcia

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#195915

From"Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net>
Date2018-05-19 21:10 +0200
Message-ID<vRfoR-38Y-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#195911
Hi,

Herb Garcia wrote:
> I'm running Mate on my laptop. I don't see a CD/DVD burning software
> that came with the build. Any suggestions?

The big three with GUI are: K3B, Brasero, Xfburn.
Their Debian package names are "k3b", "brasero", "xfburn".

On the command line there are growisofs, xorriso, wodim, cdrskin.


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

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#195916

FromAbdullah Ramazanoğlu <ar018@yahoo.com>
Date2018-05-19 21:20 +0200
Message-ID<vRfyx-3bU-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#195911
On Sat, 19 May 2018 11:36:35 -0700 Herb Garcia said:

> I'm running Mate on my laptop. I don't see a CD/DVD burning software
> that came with the build. Any suggestions?

But beware of k3b's KDE dependencies.

Another alternative could be xfburn, came with xfce by default, though I don't
use CD burners anymore. It should be light both in itself and in its
dependencies.

Regards
-- 
Abdullah Ramazanoğlu

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#195917

FromBen Oliver <ben@bfoliver.com>
Date2018-05-19 21:30 +0200
Message-ID<vRfId-3eP-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#195916
On 18-05-19 22:10:04, Abdullah Ramazanoğlu wrote:
>On Sat, 19 May 2018 11:36:35 -0700 Herb Garcia said:
>
>> I'm running Mate on my laptop. I don't see a CD/DVD burning software
>> that came with the build. Any suggestions?
>
>But beware of k3b's KDE dependencies.

This is a good point, it does bring quite a lot in. I have a note 
somewhere though that for whatever reason brasero wasn't working where 
k3b was.

YMMV

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#195919

From"Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net>
Date2018-05-19 23:00 +0200
Message-ID<vRh7j-3VS-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#195917
Hi,

Abdullah Ramazanoğlu wrote:
> > But beware of k3b's KDE dependencies.

Ben Oliver wrote:
> This is a good point, it does bring quite a lot in.

If it's about that, then i can beat them all with

  https://packages.debian.org/sid/utils/xorriso-tcltk

(On older Debians install "tk", "bwidget", "xorriso", and download
 the Tcl/Tk script from
   https://sources.debian.org/data/main/libi/libisoburn/1.4.6-1/frontend/xorriso-tcltk
)
It is not necessarily intended for an esthetically sensitive audience :))
  https://screenshots.debian.net/package/xorriso-tcltk


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

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#195921

FromBen Oliver <ben@bfoliver.com>
Date2018-05-19 23:40 +0200
Message-ID<vRhK1-4mM-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#195919
On 18-05-19 22:58:03, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
>It is not necessarily intended for an esthetically sensitive audience 
>:))
>  https://screenshots.debian.net/package/xorriso-tcltk

It's like a magic eye picture. Eventually you work it out. Some never 
do.

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#195929

FromJoe <joe@jretrading.com>
Date2018-05-20 13:40 +0200
Message-ID<vRuQV-3NZ-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#195916
On Sat, 19 May 2018 22:10:04 +0300
Abdullah Ramazanoğlu <ar018@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 19 May 2018 11:36:35 -0700 Herb Garcia said:
> 
> > I'm running Mate on my laptop. I don't see a CD/DVD burning software
> > that came with the build. Any suggestions?  
> 
> But beware of k3b's KDE dependencies.
> 

I was going to mention that, though it varies according to what you
have already. I like k3b, and also like konqueror as a backup browser,
so on my desktop machine I'm willing to tolerate the KDE stuff that
comes with them that I never use.

-- 
Joe

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#195946

FromAbdullah Ramazanoğlu <ar018@yahoo.com>
Date2018-05-21 00:00 +0200
Message-ID<vREwV-1mw-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#195929
On Sun, 20 May 2018 12:31:28 +0100 Joe said:
> On Sat, 19 May 2018 22:10:04 +0300
> Abdullah Ramazanoğlu <ar018@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > But beware of k3b's KDE dependencies.
> 
> I was going to mention that, though it varies according to what you
> have already. I like k3b, and also like konqueror as a backup browser,
> so on my desktop machine I'm willing to tolerate the KDE stuff that
> comes with them that I never use.

Hopefully those KDE dependencies didn't "enhance" your system with a few
resource hogging daemons. A "ps ax" check could be helpful there.

Regards
-- 
Abdullah Ramazanoğlu

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#195952

FromJoe <joe@jretrading.com>
Date2018-05-21 09:20 +0200
Message-ID<vRNgR-6L9-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#195946
On Mon, 21 May 2018 00:49:41 +0300
Abdullah Ramazanoğlu <ar018@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 20 May 2018 12:31:28 +0100 Joe said:
> > On Sat, 19 May 2018 22:10:04 +0300
> > Abdullah Ramazanoğlu <ar018@yahoo.com> wrote:  
> 
> > > But beware of k3b's KDE dependencies.  
> > 
> > I was going to mention that, though it varies according to what you
> > have already. I like k3b, and also like konqueror as a backup
> > browser, so on my desktop machine I'm willing to tolerate the KDE
> > stuff that comes with them that I never use.  
> 
> Hopefully those KDE dependencies didn't "enhance" your system with a
> few resource hogging daemons. A "ps ax" check could be helpful there.

No, that's just Firefox, as usual...

-- 
Joe

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#195923

FromPatrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com>
Date2018-05-20 01:00 +0200
Message-ID<vRiZs-50w-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#195911
On Sat, 19 May 2018 11:36:35 -0700 Herb Garcia <portamex@garlic.com>
wrote:

> I'm running Mate on my laptop. I don't see a CD/DVD burning software
> that came with the build. Any suggestions?

I use xfburn, the XFCE Desktop utility, but on an Openbox window
manager only system.  No problems installing or using.  And the XFCE
Desktop is not required. Can be used either from the GUI or
commandline IIRC.

B

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#195925

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@surfnaked.ca>
Date2018-05-20 05:20 +0200
Message-ID<vRn33-7xS-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#195911
On 19/05/18 11:36 AM, Herb Garcia wrote:
> Hey everyone,
>
> I'm running Mate on my laptop. I don't see a CD/DVD burning software
> that came with the build. Any suggestions?

I use wodim.  This is a command-line utility; if you're into that, it 
works a treat.

man wodim for details.

-- 
cgibbs@surfnaked.ca (Charlie Gibbs)

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#196010

Fromdavidson <davidson@freevolt.org>
Date2018-05-23 09:00 +0200
Message-ID<vSvUB-70-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#195925

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On Sat, 19 May 2018, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

> On 19/05/18 11:36 AM, Herb Garcia wrote:
>> Hey everyone,
>> 
>> I'm running Mate on my laptop. I don't see a CD/DVD burning software
>> that came with the build. Any suggestions?
>
> I use wodim.  This is a command-line utility; if you're into that, it works a 
> treat.
>
> man wodim for details.

For whatever it might be worth, this (ubuntu help) page has proved
useful to me in the past:

  CdDvd/Burning - Community Help Wiki
  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CdDvd/Burning

In particular, the following two sections.

1. On using genisoimage (so you can generate an iso image based on
    some directory tree, so you will have something appropriate for
    burning onto optical media):

  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CdDvd/Burning#Burning_a_CD_or_DVD_using_Command_Line_tools

2. On using wodim (to burn an iso to optical media):

   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CdDvd/Burning#Burning_a_CD_on_the_Command_Line_with_wodim

But yeah, whatever you decide to use, look at the man pages too.

-- 
@adamjohnsonNYC 22 May 2018 | @tinymattresses

people who tell others to "google it" as if human exchange of
knowledge is now rendered pointless by large corporations are the 2nd
worst people behind passive voice pedants

.

%% https://twitter.com/adamjohnsonNYC/status/999089561933410306

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#196011

FromHans <hans.ullrich@loop.de>
Date2018-05-23 09:00 +0200
Message-ID<vSvUB-70-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#196010
I believe, k3b and brasero are just GUIs for wodim.

Best

Hans

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#196015

From"Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net>
Date2018-05-23 10:40 +0200
Message-ID<vSxtn-15S-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#196011
Hi,

davidson wrote:
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CdDvd/Burning#Burning_a_CD_or_DVD_using_C
ommand_Line_tools

  "Sometimes Ubuntu fails to detect and configure your Burner. This results
   in "no media found" if you use 'wodim dev=/dev/cdrw'. Even 'wodim -scanbus'
   does not work [...] Ok so we know, it is hda."

Well, /dev/cdrw should be a softlink to some /dev/sr*. Whether you get
it nowadays is a matter of udev.

wodim -scanbus suffers from bitrot because Linux discontinued the /dev/sd*
device files for which -scanbus is looking. (Create a softlink /dev/scd0
from /dev/sr0 and it will appeari in wodim -scanbus output.)
If the Linux kernel is old enough to show /dev/hda, then wodim -scanbus does
not find the device for the reverse reason: wodim is then too young.
(Option dev=ATA: might then help. But i cannot test this any more.)

The article is about 10 years behind.
Our own wiki about command line burning is more up to date.
  https://wiki.debian.org/BurnCd


Hans wrote:
> I believe, k3b and brasero are just GUIs for wodim.

Both prefer growisofs over wodim for DVD and BD media. Brasero in Debian
uses libburn by default for CD, DVD, BD media. (Xfburn uses libburn
unconditionally.)

The big GUIs are not only frontends to burn programs but also to ISO 9660
formatting programs (genisoimage, libisofs, xorriso) and to media stream
converters (e.g. gstreamer). Further they use 50+ libraries which have
nothing to do with burning, filesystem formatting, or stream conversion.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------

Use wodim only with CD media. It might halfways work with DVD but you
are always potential victims to clueless handling of the medium.

With BD-RE it reports:

  ...
  wodim: Drive needs to reload the media to return to proper status.

The drive tray goes out and in. wodim then continues:

  ...
  wodim: Cannot get next writable address for 'invisible' track.
  wodim: This means that we are checking recorded media.
  wodim: This media cannot be written in streaming mode anymore.
  wodim: If you like to write to 'preformatted' RW media, try to blank the media first.

This would be the occasion to bail out in dignity. But it goes on:

  Starting to write CD/DVD at speed  51.0 in real TAO mode for single session.
  ...
  Errno: 5 (Input/output error), read track info scsi sendcmd: no error
  CDB:  52 01 00 00 00 FF 00 00 1C 00
  status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
  Sense Bytes: 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 24 00 00 00
  Sense Key: 0x5 Illegal Request, Segment 0
  Sense Code: 0x24 Qual 0x00 (invalid field in cdb) Fru 0x0

The attempted command is appropriate only for CD and DVD+R.

At that point the drive is really fed up. If it could, then it would
come out of its box and slap the program and its user in the face.

Still wodim does not show any understanding, but rather goes on

  Writing  time:    4.344s
  Average write speed 999.0x.
  Fixating...
  Errno: 5 (Input/output error), close track/session scsi sendcmd: no error
  CDB:  5B 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
  status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
  Sense Bytes: 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 30 06 00 00
  Sense Key: 0x5 Illegal Request, Segment 0
  Sense Code: 0x30 Qual 0x06 (cannot format medium - incompatible medium) Fru 0x0
 
This time it tried to close a formatted medium.

But in the end, it does one thing right: Its exit value is non-zero.
So it knows that it failed to do the job.


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

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#196016

From"Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net>
Date2018-05-23 12:20 +0200
Message-ID<vSz29-24Y-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#196015
Hi,

i wrote:
> Linux discontinued the /dev/sd* device files 

I meant /dev/scd*, not /dev/sd*.


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

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#195956 — Re: ~ CD Burning Software

FromJonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org>
Date2018-05-21 11:50 +0200
SubjectRe: ~ CD Burning Software
Message-ID<vRPC1-81I-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#195911
On Sat, May 19, 2018 at 11:36:35AM -0700, Herb Garcia wrote:
>I'm running Mate on my laptop. I don't see a CD/DVD burning software
>that came with the build. Any suggestions?

It's been a few years since I tried it, but I found Brasero to be
incredibly unreliable. I switched to wodim from the command-line and had
better success. But I'm now in the process of abandoning optical media
altogether.

-- 

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