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  Debian testing not receivng packages at least in gnome. Matthew <ilovecountrymusic483@gmail.com> - 2018-05-16 22:00 +0200
    Re: Debian testing not receivng packages at least in gnome. Cindy-Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2018-05-16 23:00 +0200
      Re: Debian testing not receivng packages at least in gnome. Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-05-16 23:20 +0200
    Re: Debian testing not receivng packages at least in gnome. Abdullah Ramazanoğlu <ar018@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-16 23:20 +0200

#195815 — Debian testing not receivng packages at least in gnome.

Afternoon all.


A very strange problem that is very strange.  I have two debian machines 
both with the testing repo as the sources from which I am using.  One is 
using mate desktop and the other is using gnome.  I have the sources 
list pointing to the testing branch on both.  One the mate machinee 
updates the desktop without any problem, but the gnome system however 
does not.  Here is how my debian sorces list looks on my gnome system.  
I switch to the main server thinking that this might work, but no luck.  
I know that there were updates as my mate system was just updated.  Any 
ideas.  Now here is the sources list info.


#

# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 9.4.0 _Stretch_ - Official amd64 NETINST 
20180310-11:21]/ stretch main

# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 9.4.0 _Stretch_ - Official amd64 NETINST 
20180310-11:21]/ stretch main

deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ testing main
deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ testing main

# deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing-updates main


BTW the last 2 lines are commented in the file.


Matthew

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#195816

On 5/16/18, Matthew <ilovecountrymusic483@gmail.com> wrote:
> Afternoon all.
>
>
> A very strange problem that is very strange.  I have two debian machines
> both with the testing repo as the sources from which I am using.  One is
> using mate desktop and the other is using gnome.  I have the sources
> list pointing to the testing branch on both.  One the mate machinee
> updates the desktop without any problem, but the gnome system however
> does not.  Here is how my debian sorces list looks on my gnome system.
> I switch to the main server thinking that this might work, but no luck.
> I know that there were updates as my mate system was just updated.  Any
> ideas.  Now here is the sources list info.
>
>
> #
>
> # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 9.4.0 _Stretch_ - Official amd64 NETINST
> 20180310-11:21]/ stretch main
>
> # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 9.4.0 _Stretch_ - Official amd64 NETINST
> 20180310-11:21]/ stretch main
>
> deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ testing main
> deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ testing main
>
> # deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing-updates main
>
>
> BTW the last 2 lines are commented in the file.


Are you saying that you see something like this, like *mine*, when you
try to update:

0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.

Or are you saying something else, e.g. like maybe it won't complete
the earlier "apt-get update" step (or however else you update your
setup's package manager)?

I'm just asking because mine has remained at the above for MANY
months. Every so many weeks, one outside browser needs updated, but
that's it.

I consciously thought about it and just thought Stable was
phenomenally stable. At the same time I'm on security listservs that
keep sending out announcements for familiar packages. I've found it
hard to believe that mine hasn't needed *anything* updated to
date......

Your inquiry just retriggered an *oops* forgotten minor detail that
there's a security related line that can be added. That would be some
personalized main v. contrib v. non-free tweak of:

deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security/ stretch/updates main

Oh, have mercy. I just added that then "apt-get update"/"apt-get
upgrade". Went pretty quick, but, ummm.......

"102 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 429 MB of archives.
After this operation, 10.5 MB disk space will be freed."

Via dialup.

At that rate, I might as well debootstrap again just for funnsies to
sweep out incidental cobwebs. Comme ci comme ça, six of one, half a
dozen of another, yada-yada...... :D

My meandering is partially k/t...

1) https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/371865/debian-9-sources-list

2) https://www.howtoforge.com/using-old-debian-versions-in-your-sources.list

And ultimately...

3) https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList

PS I can see where that missing "debian-security" line would be, nay,
apparently *is* why there have been no updates on *my* end with a
one-liner sources.list, BUT...

I'm not cognitively grasping why resource protecting security updates
to software would not have naturally been reflected all along even
with that one-liner sources.list file. I would have thought it was all
in the same single repository bucket that our packagers pluck from
regularly... :)

My faded memory is that this came up here on Debian-User, and there
*is* some rational thought process as to why that doesn't naturally
happen...

I think... ? Maybe.. ? Or not..? :)

Cindy =)
-- 
Cindy-Sue Causey
Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA

* runs with duct tape *

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#195818

On Wed, 16 May 2018 16:53:57 -0400
Cindy-Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 5/16/18, Matthew <ilovecountrymusic483@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Afternoon all.
> >
> >
> > A very strange problem that is very strange.  I have two debian
> > machines both with the testing repo as the sources from which I am
> > using.  One is using mate desktop and the other is using gnome.  I
> > have the sources list pointing to the testing branch on both.  One
> > the mate machinee updates the desktop without any problem, but the
> > gnome system however does not.  Here is how my debian sorces list
> > looks on my gnome system. I switch to the main server thinking that
> > this might work, but no luck. I know that there were updates as my
> > mate system was just updated.  Any ideas.  Now here is the sources
> > list info.
> >
> >
> > #
> >
> > # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 9.4.0 _Stretch_ - Official amd64
> > NETINST 20180310-11:21]/ stretch main
> >
> > # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 9.4.0 _Stretch_ - Official amd64
> > NETINST 20180310-11:21]/ stretch main
> >
> > deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ testing main
> > deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ testing main
> >
> > # deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing-updates main
> >
> >
> > BTW the last 2 lines are commented in the file.  
> 
> 
> Are you saying that you see something like this, like *mine*, when you
> try to update:
> 
> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
> 

Thing is, he's not on Stable. Sid has been getting bucket-loads of
updates every day, as usual, and a fair proportion of that should make
it to Testing fairly quickly.

To the OP: how are you making updates? I use upgrade-system, which
works most of the time. When it wants to pull stupid amounts of stuff
out, I move to Synaptic and see how much I can make work.

In your case, you might want to try upgrading using apt-get or
aptitude, and report the messages from the two machines. If you are
using an upgrade method which is part of the desktop environment, there
might well be different behaviour.

-- 
Joe

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#195820

On Wed, 16 May 2018 15:58:21 -0400 Matthew said:

Hello Matthew,

> BTW the last 2 lines are commented in the file.

??

Could you attach both sources.list files ditto, and the complete output of
"apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade" on your gnome system please?

Regards
-- 
Abdullah Ramazanoğlu

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