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  Not receiving emails fmneto@gmail.com - 2018-04-19 14:20 +0200
    Re: Not receiving emails Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-04-19 14:40 +0200
    Re: Not receiving emails <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-04-19 15:00 +0200
      Re: Not receiving emails Jochen Spieker <ml@well-adjusted.de> - 2018-04-19 16:00 +0200
        Re: Not receiving emails Francisco M Neto <fmneto@gmail.com> - 2018-04-19 16:50 +0200
          Re: Not receiving emails Cindy-Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2018-04-19 17:10 +0200
            Re: Not receiving emails Francisco M Neto <fmneto@gmail.com> - 2018-04-19 17:50 +0200
              Re: Not receiving emails Cindy-Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2018-04-19 18:00 +0200
        Re: Not receiving emails <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-04-19 17:20 +0200

#194852 — Not receiving emails

I apologize for the seemingly useless email, but I have re-subscribed
to the list but I haven't been receiving new messages.

--Francisco

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#194853

fmneto@gmail.com wrote:
> I apologize for the seemingly useless email, but I have re-subscribed
> to the list but I haven't been receiving new messages.

It's been a bit slow that last couple of days - could just be that
nothing new has come in. 

Or if it has, your spam filters have eaten the list messages.


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#194854

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On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 02:11:24PM +0200, fmneto@gmail.com wrote:
> I apologize for the seemingly useless email, but I have re-subscribed
> to the list but I haven't been receiving new messages.

(sending to you, CC list, just in case)

According to your mail's headers, as they arrive here, the list thinks
you are subscribed:

  X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.6 required=4.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,
        DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VERIFIED,FREEMAIL_FROM,LDOSUBSCRIBER,LDO_WHITELIST,
                                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
        RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SARE_MSGID_LONG40 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no
        version=3.4.1

Cheers
- -- tomás
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#194858

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tomas@tuxteam.de:
> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 02:11:24PM +0200, fmneto@gmail.com wrote:
>> I apologize for the seemingly useless email, but I have re-subscribed
>> to the list but I haven't been receiving new messages.
> 
> (sending to you, CC list, just in case)
> 
> According to your mail's headers, as they arrive here, the list thinks
> you are subscribed:
> 
>   X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.6 required=4.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,
>         DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VERIFIED,FREEMAIL_FROM,LDOSUBSCRIBER,LDO_WHITELIST,
>                                                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Interesting! But from that string I guess this only means the sender is
subscribed to at least one list on lists.debian.org. Doesn't have to be
debian-user.

J.
-- 
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[Agree]   [Disagree]
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#194860

Yeah, being subscribed is not an issue. I have verified that myself  more than
once. In fact my earlier message appeared in the list archives, so that's
working fine. 

What I don't understand is why I haven't received any emails from the list. At
first I considered it could be a problem with my Evolution setup, but verified
with gmail's web client and messages were not arriving at all. For some reason,
these responses have arrived without a problem. 

I _know_ something was wrong because despite being a bit slow on traffic for the
past few days I have seen emails show in in archive but not in my inbox. 

As it turns out, Dan Purgert's assertion was correct, and I found the lost
messages in gmail's spam folder. Which is odd since I have never had this kind
of issue before... my guess is the way gmail handles unsubscription messages may
have caused this behavior. 

Anyway, it seems to be OK now. Thanks for the replies.

-Francisco

On Thu, 2018-04-19 at 15:58 +0200, Jochen Spieker wrote:
> tomas@tuxteam.de:
> > On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 02:11:24PM +0200, fmneto@gmail.com wrote:
> > > I apologize for the seemingly useless email, but I have re-subscribed
> > > to the list but I haven't been receiving new messages.
> > 
> > (sending to you, CC list, just in case)
> > 
> > According to your mail's headers, as they arrive here, the list thinks
> > you are subscribed:
> > 
> >   X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.6 required=4.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,
> >         DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VERIFIED,FREEMAIL_FROM,LDOSUBSCRIBER,LDO_WHITELIS
> > T,
> >                                                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 
> Interesting! But from that string I guess this only means the sender is
> subscribed to at least one list on lists.debian.org. Doesn't have to be
> debian-user.
> 
> J.
-- 
--
[]'s,

Francisco M Neto

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#194862

On 4/19/18, Francisco M Neto <fmneto@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yeah, being subscribed is not an issue. I have verified that myself  more
> than
> once. In fact my earlier message appeared in the list archives, so that's
> working fine.
>
> What I don't understand is why I haven't received any emails from the list.
> At
> first I considered it could be a problem with my Evolution setup, but
> verified
> with gmail's web client and messages were not arriving at all. For some
> reason,
> these responses have arrived without a problem.
>
> I _know_ something was wrong because despite being a bit slow on traffic for
> the
> past few days I have seen emails show in in archive but not in my inbox.
>
> As it turns out, Dan Purgert's assertion was correct, and I found the lost
> messages in gmail's spam folder. Which is odd since I have never had this
> kind
> of issue before... my guess is the way gmail handles unsubscription messages
> may
> have caused this behavior.
>
> Anyway, it seems to be OK now. Thanks for the replies.
>
> -Francisco
>
> On Thu, 2018-04-19 at 15:58 +0200, Jochen Spieker wrote:
>> tomas@tuxteam.de:
>> > On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 02:11:24PM +0200, fmneto@gmail.com wrote:
>> > > I apologize for the seemingly useless email, but I have re-subscribed
>> > > to the list but I haven't been receiving new messages.
>> >
>> > (sending to you, CC list, just in case)
>> >
>> > According to your mail's headers, as they arrive here, the list thinks
>> > you are subscribed:
>> >
>> >   X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.6 required=4.0
>> > tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,
>> >
>> > DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VERIFIED,FREEMAIL_FROM,LDOSUBSCRIBER,LDO_WHITELIS
>> > T,
>> >                                                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>
>> Interesting! But from that string I guess this only means the sender is
>> subscribed to at least one list on lists.debian.org. Doesn't have to be
>> debian-user.


I keep finding one particular user's emails in there the last couple
weeks. In the past, I've found others.

It will occur in spurts. I just keep digging them out. Maybe one
user's emails are triggering Gmail to mark all that way in your
particular case. Seems odd.. :)

Cindy :)
-- 
Cindy-Sue Causey
Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA

* runs with duct tape *

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#194873

My best guess is really Gmail's handling of subscriptions. When I mark a message
as spam it also asks me if I want it to try and unsubscribe from it. Maybe it's
related to that behavior somehow.

-Francisco

On Thu, 2018-04-19 at 11:07 -0400, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote:
> On 4/19/18, Francisco M Neto <fmneto@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Yeah, being subscribed is not an issue. I have verified that myself  more
> > than
> > once. In fact my earlier message appeared in the list archives, so that's
> > working fine.
> > 
> > What I don't understand is why I haven't received any emails from the list.
> > At
> > first I considered it could be a problem with my Evolution setup, but
> > verified
> > with gmail's web client and messages were not arriving at all. For some
> > reason,
> > these responses have arrived without a problem.
> > 
> > I _know_ something was wrong because despite being a bit slow on traffic for
> > the
> > past few days I have seen emails show in in archive but not in my inbox.
> > 
> > As it turns out, Dan Purgert's assertion was correct, and I found the lost
> > messages in gmail's spam folder. Which is odd since I have never had this
> > kind
> > of issue before... my guess is the way gmail handles unsubscription messages
> > may
> > have caused this behavior.
> > 
> > Anyway, it seems to be OK now. Thanks for the replies.
> > 
> > -Francisco
> > 
> > On Thu, 2018-04-19 at 15:58 +0200, Jochen Spieker wrote:
> > > tomas@tuxteam.de:
> > > > On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 02:11:24PM +0200, fmneto@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > I apologize for the seemingly useless email, but I have re-subscribed
> > > > > to the list but I haven't been receiving new messages.
> > > > 
> > > > (sending to you, CC list, just in case)
> > > > 
> > > > According to your mail's headers, as they arrive here, the list thinks
> > > > you are subscribed:
> > > > 
> > > >   X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.6 required=4.0
> > > > tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,
> > > > 
> > > > DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VERIFIED,FREEMAIL_FROM,LDOSUBSCRIBER,LDO_WHITELIS
> > > > T,
> > > >                                                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > > 
> > > Interesting! But from that string I guess this only means the sender is
> > > subscribed to at least one list on lists.debian.org. Doesn't have to be
> > > debian-user.
> 
> 
> I keep finding one particular user's emails in there the last couple
> weeks. In the past, I've found others.
> 
> It will occur in spurts. I just keep digging them out. Maybe one
> user's emails are triggering Gmail to mark all that way in your
> particular case. Seems odd.. :)
> 
> Cindy :)
-- 
--
[]'s,

Francisco M Neto

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#194874

On 4/19/18, Francisco M Neto <fmneto@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 2018-04-19 at 11:07 -0400, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote:
>> On 4/19/18, Francisco M Neto <fmneto@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Yeah, being subscribed is not an issue. I have verified that myself
>> > more
>> > than
>> > once. In fact my earlier message appeared in the list archives, so
>> > that's
>> > working fine.
>> >
>> > What I don't understand is why I haven't received any emails from the
>> > list.
>> > At
>> > first I considered it could be a problem with my Evolution setup, but
>> > verified
>> > with gmail's web client and messages were not arriving at all. For some
>> > reason,
>> > these responses have arrived without a problem.
>> >
>> > I _know_ something was wrong because despite being a bit slow on traffic
>> > for
>> > the
>> > past few days I have seen emails show in in archive but not in my
>> > inbox.
>> >
>> > As it turns out, Dan Purgert's assertion was correct, and I found the
>> > lost
>> > messages in gmail's spam folder. Which is odd since I have never had
>> > this
>> > kind
>> > of issue before... my guess is the way gmail handles unsubscription
>> > messages
>> > may
>> > have caused this behavior.
>> >
>> > Anyway, it seems to be OK now. Thanks for the replies.
>>
>> I keep finding one particular user's emails in there the last couple
>> weeks. In the past, I've found others.
>>
>> It will occur in spurts. I just keep digging them out. Maybe one
>> user's emails are triggering Gmail to mark all that way in your
>> particular case. Seems odd.. :)
>
> My best guess is really Gmail's handling of subscriptions. When I mark a
> message
> as spam it also asks me if I want it to try and unsubscribe from it. Maybe
> it's
> related to that behavior somehow.


Oh, ok, I hear what you're saying now. I don't have that capability so
I didn't know it exists. I'm on dialup. I'm using the really old
version that they almost canned for poverty level users like me a few
years ago. I'll shut up now. It also helps make a ton of sense about
more than a few threads that never made sense in the past. #ThankYou
for that! :)

Cindy :)
-- 
Cindy-Sue Causey
Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA

* runs with duct tape *

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#194865

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On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 03:58:28PM +0200, Jochen Spieker wrote:
> tomas@tuxteam.de:

[...]
> >         DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VERIFIED,FREEMAIL_FROM,LDOSUBSCRIBER,LDO_WHITELIST,
> >                                                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 
> Interesting! But from that string I guess this only means the sender is
> subscribed to at least one list on lists.debian.org. Doesn't have to be
> debian-user.

Right you are :-)

Cheers
- -- t
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