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  Strange message during boot Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-01-10 15:30 +0100
    Re: Strange message during boot David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-01-10 16:00 +0100
    Re: Strange message during boot Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2018-01-10 16:40 +0100
    Re: Strange message during boot Jeroen Mathon <jeroenmathonmac@gmail.com> - 2018-01-11 09:40 +0100
      Re: Strange message during boot Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-01-11 11:40 +0100
        Re: Strange message during boot rhkramer@gmail.com - 2018-01-11 14:30 +0100
          Re: Strange message during boot Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-01-11 15:40 +0100
            Re: Strange message during boot The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2018-01-11 15:50 +0100
              Re: Strange message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-01-11 16:30 +0100
                Re: Strange message during boot The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2018-01-11 16:30 +0100
                  Re: Strange message during boot Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-01-11 16:40 +0100
                    Re: Strange message during boot The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2018-01-11 16:50 +0100
                      Re: Strange message during boot Sven Joachim <svenjoac@gmx.de> - 2018-01-11 18:40 +0100
              Re: Strange message during boot Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-01-13 11:50 +0100
                [LIKELY Resolved] - was [Re: Strange message during boot] Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-01-13 13:50 +0100
    Re: [Diagnostic Summary] Re: Strange message during boot The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2018-01-11 18:20 +0100
      Re: [Diagnostic Summary] Re: Strange message during boot bw <bwtnguy@yahoo.com> - 2018-01-11 18:40 +0100
        Re: [Diagnostic Summary] Re: Strange message during boot The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2018-01-11 18:40 +0100
          Re: [Diagnostic Summary] Re: Strange message during boot bw <bwtnguy@yahoo.com> - 2018-01-11 18:50 +0100
            Re: [Diagnostic Summary] Re: Strange message during boot The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2018-01-12 14:00 +0100
          Re: [Diagnostic Summary] Re: Strange message during boot Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-01-12 17:10 +0100
        Re: [Diagnostic Summary] Re: Strange message during boot Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-01-11 19:50 +0100
          Re: [Diagnostic Summary] Re: Strange message during boot bw <bwtnguy@yahoo.com> - 2018-01-11 20:30 +0100
            Re: [Diagnostic Summary] Re: Strange message during boot Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-01-12 13:10 +0100
    [Diagnostic Summary] Re: Strange message during boot Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-01-11 18:20 +0100
      Re: [Diagnostic Summary] Re: Strange message during boot bw <bwtnguy@yahoo.com> - 2018-01-11 18:30 +0100
        Re: [Diagnostic Summary] Re: Strange message during boot Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-01-12 17:10 +0100
      Re: [Diagnostic Summary] Re: Strange message during boot David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-01-11 20:50 +0100
        Re: [Diagnostic Summary] Re: Strange message during boot Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-01-12 13:30 +0100
          Re: [Diagnostic Summary] Re: Strange message during boot David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-01-12 16:30 +0100
            Re: [Diagnostic Summary] Re: Strange message during boot Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-01-12 17:30 +0100
            HELP!! - was [Re: [Diagnostic Summary] Re: Strange message during  boot] Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-01-13 02:50 +0100

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#190994 — Re: [Diagnostic Summary] Re: Strange message during boot

On 01/11/2018 11:38 AM, The Wanderer wrote:
> [snip]
>
> On my system (stable+testing, though with sysvinit rather than systemd):
>
> $ dlocate scripts/local-block
> mdadm: /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/local-block
> mdadm: /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/local-block/mdadm
> lvm2: /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/local-block
> lvm2: /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/local-block/lvm2
>

I get
> root@stretch-2nd:~#
> root@stretch-2nd:~# updatedb
> root@stretch-2nd:~# dlocate scripts/local-block
> root@stretch-2nd:~# update-dlocatedb
> root@stretch-2nd:~# dlocate scripts/local-block
> root@stretch-2nd:~#

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#190952 — Re: [Diagnostic Summary] Re: Strange message during boot

On 01/11/2018 11:35 AM, bw wrote:
> [snip]
> Sounds complicated, one version of grub but
> separate boot partitions always gets me confused too.

Not sure best solution.
But I'm used to it and have not discovered any potholes. YET ;/
I've had it that way since Squeeze in order to force update-grub to be 
run-able from only one environment.
At the time I was doing multiple install in a day to experiment with 
package complement and configurations.

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#190955 — Re: [Diagnostic Summary] Re: Strange message during boot

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018, Richard Owlett wrote:

> On 01/11/2018 11:35 AM, bw wrote:
> > [snip]
> > Sounds complicated, one version of grub but
> > separate boot partitions always gets me confused too.
> 
> Not sure best solution.
> But I'm used to it and have not discovered any potholes. YET ;/
> I've had it that way since Squeeze in order to force update-grub to be
> run-able from only one environment.
> At the time I was doing multiple install in a day to experiment with package
> complement and configurations.
> 
> 

Well, I admit I do the same thing on one machine.  I have jessie, stretch 
with fluxbox, and stretch with kde and I hate it when I upgrade a kernel 
and get grub menu inconsistent so i purged grub pkg on two of them.  I 
have used chroot in the past in an emergency to update-initramfs, but this 
setup is pretty solid with an edited 40-custom file on the grub machine.

I'm thinking a common /boot partition would be easier but not sure how to 
set that up.

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#190977 — Re: [Diagnostic Summary] Re: Strange message during boot

On 01/11/2018 01:28 PM, bw wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, 11 Jan 2018, Richard Owlett wrote:
>
>> On 01/11/2018 11:35 AM, bw wrote:
>>> [snip]
>>> Sounds complicated, one version of grub but
>>> separate boot partitions always gets me confused too.
>>
>> Not sure best solution.
>> But I'm used to it and have not discovered any potholes. YET ;/
>> I've had it that way since Squeeze in order to force update-grub
>> to be run-able from only one environment.
>> At the time I was doing multiple install in a day to experiment
>> with package complement and configurations.
>>
>>
>
> Well, I admit I do the same thing on one machine.  I have jessie,
> stretch with fluxbox, and stretch with kde and I hate it when I
> upgrade a kernel and get grub menu inconsistent so i purged grub
> pkg on two of them.  I have used chroot in the past in an emergency
> to update-initramfs, but this setup is pretty solid with an edited
> 40-custom file on the grub machine.

Any pointers to a good tutorial on NN-custom files?

>
> I'm thinking a common /boot partition would be easier but not sure
> how to set that up.

I've seen mention of effectively a minimalist kernel and *ONLY* those 
packages required for Grub to function. Never found directions for 
setting one up. I don't know if a common /boot partition would work on 
one of my machines with Windows and a arbitrary collection of Linux vendors.

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#190945 — [Diagnostic Summary] Re: Strange message during boot

I multi-boot several varieties of Debian.
When booting one specific install, it displays many repetitions of:
>> Begin: Running /scripts/local-block ... done.

It then proceeds to bring up an apparently normal system.
Would this be logged somewhere?
Where?

Specifics:
sda1 - Always has the latest version of Debian, currently 9.1 .
        For housekeeping reasons it has the only copy of Grub
        on my machine.
sda8 - The problem install is Debian 8. It had been my primary work
        install until I trashed some data files. It has been kept to
        reconstruct those files as I have time.
sda9 - Current work install of Debian 9.1

Suggested diagnostics yielded:

> root@stretch-2nd:~# ls -l /sbin/init
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 Jun  4  2017 /sbin/init -> /lib/systemd/systemd
> root@stretch-2nd:~#

/etc/apt/sources.list indicates the install had been done with:
deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux stretch-DI-rc3 _Stretch_ - Official Snapshot 
i386 NETINST Binary-1 20170409-00:50]/ stretch main

>
> root@stretch-2nd:~# dlocate /sbin/init
> bash: dlocate: command not found
> root@stretch-2nd:~#
>
> journalctl -xb > jan11test
The string of interest not present.

/usr/share/initramfs-tools/ does not exist
/etc/initramfs-tools/scripts has 10 empty folders

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#190946 — Re: [Diagnostic Summary] Re: Strange message during boot

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018, Richard Owlett wrote:

> I multi-boot several varieties of Debian.
> When booting one specific install, it displays many repetitions of:
> > > Begin: Running /scripts/local-block ... done.
> 
> It then proceeds to bring up an apparently normal system.
> Would this be logged somewhere?
> Where?
> 
> Specifics:
> sda1 - Always has the latest version of Debian, currently 9.1 .
>        For housekeeping reasons it has the only copy of Grub
>        on my machine.
> sda8 - The problem install is Debian 8. It had been my primary work
>        install until I trashed some data files. It has been kept to
>        reconstruct those files as I have time.
> sda9 - Current work install of Debian 9.1
> 
> Suggested diagnostics yielded:
> 
> > root@stretch-2nd:~# ls -l /sbin/init
> > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 Jun  4  2017 /sbin/init -> /lib/systemd/systemd
> > root@stretch-2nd:~#
> 
> /etc/apt/sources.list indicates the install had been done with:
> deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux stretch-DI-rc3 _Stretch_ - Official Snapshot i386
> NETINST Binary-1 20170409-00:50]/ stretch main
> 
> > 
> > root@stretch-2nd:~# dlocate /sbin/init
> > bash: dlocate: command not found
> > root@stretch-2nd:~#
> > 
> > journalctl -xb > jan11test
> The string of interest not present.
> 
> /usr/share/initramfs-tools/ does not exist
> /etc/initramfs-tools/scripts has 10 empty folders
> 

Doesn't sound right.

ls -l /usr/share/initramfs-tools/
total 52
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  4096 Apr 25  2017 conf.d
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  4096 Jun 19  2017 conf-hooks.d
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 19249 Mar  6  2017 hook-functions
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  4096 Nov 10 07:57 hooks
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  5960 Apr 23  2017 init
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   357 Mar  1  2015 modules
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  4096 Apr 25  2017 modules.d
drwxr-xr-x 8 root root  4096 Nov 10 07:57 scripts

ls -l /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/
total 48
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 9394 Mar  6  2017 functions
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Nov 10 07:57 init-bottom
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Nov 10 07:57 init-premount
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Nov  9 05:04 init-top
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5607 Apr  8  2017 local
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jun 19  2017 local-bottom
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jun 19  2017 local-premount
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3050 Feb 20  2016 nfs
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Nov 10 07:57 panic


apt policy initramfs-tools
initramfs-tools:
  Installed: 0.130
  Candidate: 0.130
  Version table:
 *** 0.130 500
        500 http://http.us.debian.org/debian stretch/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

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#190995 — Re: [Diagnostic Summary] Re: Strange message during boot

On 01/11/2018 11:22 AM, bw wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, 11 Jan 2018, Richard Owlett wrote:
> [snip]
>>> journalctl -xb > jan11test
>> The string of interest not present.
>>
>> /usr/share/initramfs-tools/ does not exist
>> /etc/initramfs-tools/scripts has 10 empty folders
>>
>
> Doesn't sound right.
> [snip]

Something is looking strange.
I likely wont be able to pursue until the weekend.

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#190958 — Re: [Diagnostic Summary] Re: Strange message during boot

On Thu 11 Jan 2018 at 11:10:33 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote:
> I multi-boot several varieties of Debian.
> When booting one specific install, it displays many repetitions of:
> >>Begin: Running /scripts/local-block ... done.

> It then proceeds to bring up an apparently normal system.
[…]
> sda8 - The problem install is Debian 8. It had been my primary work
>        install until I trashed some data files. It has been kept to
>        reconstruct those files as I have time.

Two questions: When did this start happening?
               In view of the portion quoted above, why bother?

Cheers,
David.

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#190978 — Re: [Diagnostic Summary] Re: Strange message during boot

On 01/11/2018 01:43 PM, David Wright wrote:
> On Thu 11 Jan 2018 at 11:10:33 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote:
>> I multi-boot several varieties of Debian.
>> When booting one specific install, it displays many repetitions of:
>>>> Begin: Running /scripts/local-block ... done.
>
>> It then proceeds to bring up an apparently normal system.
> […]
>> sda8 - The problem install is Debian 8. It had been my primary work
>>        install until I trashed some data files. It has been kept to
>>        reconstruct those files as I have time.
>
> Two questions: When did this start happening?

Not sure. Noticed it recently after fixing a long standing problem 
involving a bad UUID for the swap partition. Debian installer 
automatically changes the swap's UUID when a partition already 
identified as "swap partition" is used. I can sort-of see why it's done, 
but I find it a *NUISANCE* ;<

> In view of the portion quoted above, why bother?

A forensic/educational analysis of just what I did to mess up what had 
been a nice and well working system.
There may still be useful data there.
Also, there are programs there I use rarely that I don't want to lose 
for now, but can't justify adding to current install. When disk space 
becomes critical, I'll likely move it to a flash drive.

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#190989 — Re: [Diagnostic Summary] Re: Strange message during boot

On Fri 12 Jan 2018 at 06:19:57 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 01/11/2018 01:43 PM, David Wright wrote:
> >On Thu 11 Jan 2018 at 11:10:33 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote:
> >>I multi-boot several varieties of Debian.
> >>When booting one specific install, it displays many repetitions of:
> >>>>Begin: Running /scripts/local-block ... done.
> >
> >>It then proceeds to bring up an apparently normal system.
> >[…]
> >>sda8 - The problem install is Debian 8. It had been my primary work
> >>       install until I trashed some data files. It has been kept to
> >>       reconstruct those files as I have time.
> >
> >Two questions: When did this start happening?
> 
> Not sure. Noticed it recently after fixing a long standing problem
> involving a bad UUID for the swap partition.

Perhaps it's no coincidence then that the Wanderer's earlier
forum reference concerns a swap partition's UUID.

> Debian installer
> automatically changes the swap's UUID when a partition already
> identified as "swap partition" is used. I can sort-of see why it's
> done, but I find it a *NUISANCE* ;<

Workarounds, including mine, have already been posted in response to
your earlier threads here on this topic.

> >In view of the portion quoted above, why bother?
> 
> A forensic/educational analysis of just what I did to mess up what
> had been a nice and well working system.
> There may still be useful data there.

A forensic analysis of a vague error message (which took a day to be
solicited) over this list? Seems unlikely.

> Also, there are programs there I use rarely that I don't want to
> lose for now, but can't justify adding to current install. When disk
> space becomes critical, I'll likely move it to a flash drive.

GB/$ disk vs flash is still quite high.

Cheers,
David.

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#190996 — Re: [Diagnostic Summary] Re: Strange message during boot

On 01/12/2018 09:29 AM, David Wright wrote:
> On Fri 12 Jan 2018 at 06:19:57 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote:
>> On 01/11/2018 01:43 PM, David Wright wrote:
>>> On Thu 11 Jan 2018 at 11:10:33 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote:
>>>> I multi-boot several varieties of Debian.
>>>> When booting one specific install, it displays many repetitions of:
>>>>>> Begin: Running /scripts/local-block ... done.
>>>
>>>> It then proceeds to bring up an apparently normal system.
>>> […]
>>>> sda8 - The problem install is Debian 8. It had been my primary work
>>>>       install until I trashed some data files. It has been kept to
>>>>       reconstruct those files as I have time.
>>>
>>> Two questions: When did this start happening?
>>
>> Not sure. Noticed it recently after fixing a long standing problem
>> involving a bad UUID for the swap partition.
>
> Perhaps it's no coincidence then that the Wanderer's earlier
> forum reference concerns a swap partition's UUID.

I had attempted to follow his suggestion. Lost my log of doing it.
Will rerun this weekend.


>
>> Debian installer
>> automatically changes the swap's UUID when a partition already
>> identified as "swap partition" is used. I can sort-of see why it's
>> done, but I find it a *NUISANCE* ;<
>
> Workarounds, including mine, have already been posted in response to
> your earlier threads here on this topic.
>
>>> In view of the portion quoted above, why bother?
>>
>> A forensic/educational analysis of just what I did to mess up what
>> had been a nice and well working system.
>> There may still be useful data there.
>
> A forensic analysis of a vague error message (which took a day to be
> solicited) over this list? Seems unlikely.

I thought you were asking "Why am I interested in keeping that partition 
around?"
As to forensics, I know "what I did to mess up the usefulness of that 
install". I'm interested in "why didn't my recovery attempts work" - a 
very different threat than this.


>
>> Also, there are programs there I use rarely that I don't want to
>> lose for now, but can't justify adding to current install. When disk
>> space becomes critical, I'll likely move it to a flash drive.
>
> GB/$ disk vs flash is still quite high.

Yes. But there is, for my goals, a favorable cost/benefit ratio.
It has been mentioned before that many consider my goals strange.

>
> Cheers,
> David.
>
>

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#191018 — HELP!! - was [Re: [Diagnostic Summary] Re: Strange message during boot]

On 01/12/2018 09:29 AM, David Wright wrote:
> On Fri 12 Jan 2018 at 06:19:57 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote:
>>[snip]
>>
>> Not sure. Noticed it recently after fixing a long standing problem
>> involving a bad UUID for the swap partition.
>
> Perhaps it's no coincidence then that the Wanderer's earlier
> forum reference concerns a swap partition's UUID.

I agree. It prompted my phraseology.
I *NEVER* delete posts &/or emails.
Can't find reference locally.

DuckDuckGo and Google unproductive.

I suspect not in debian-user.
Help. Where?

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