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  installing ufraw on buster Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2017-12-27 15:30 +0100
    Re: installing ufraw on buster john doe <johndoe65534@mail.com> - 2017-12-27 18:10 +0100
      Re: installing ufraw on buster Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2017-12-27 22:20 +0100
        Re: installing ufraw on buster john doe <johndoe65534@mail.com> - 2017-12-28 07:50 +0100
          Re: installing ufraw on buster Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2017-12-28 19:50 +0100
            Re: installing ufraw on buster john doe <johndoe65534@mail.com> - 2017-12-29 06:40 +0100
              Re: installing ufraw on buster Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2017-12-29 15:10 +0100
                Re: installing ufraw on buster john doe <johndoe65534@mail.com> - 2017-12-31 11:10 +0100
                  Re: installing ufraw on buster Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2017-12-31 16:00 +0100
                    Re: installing ufraw on buster Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-12-31 16:30 +0100
                      Re: installing ufraw on buster Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2017-12-31 17:00 +0100
                        Re: installing ufraw on buster Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-12-31 17:10 +0100
                          Re: installing ufraw on buster Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2017-12-31 17:30 +0100
                            Re: installing ufraw on buster Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-12-31 21:00 +0100
                              Re: installing ufraw on buster Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2018-01-01 18:10 +0100
    Re: installing ufraw on buster Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-12-27 19:20 +0100
      Re: installing ufraw on buster Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2017-12-27 22:40 +0100
        Re: installing ufraw on buster Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-12-28 09:40 +0100
          Re: installing ufraw on buster Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2017-12-28 19:50 +0100
            Re: installing ufraw on buster Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-12-29 13:00 +0100
              Re: installing ufraw on buster Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2017-12-29 15:50 +0100

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#190340 — installing ufraw on buster

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Hello,

"apt search ufraw" finds nothing but if I search on the debian website,
I find

    https://packages.debian.org/buster/ufraw

My question is simply: why does apt not find ufraw where my sources.list
file includes the following line: 

    deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ buster main non-free contrib

?  I am quite confused, especially as I can find the .deb file on the
website at the UK ftp server.  Any clarification to help my confusion
would be welcome!

thanks,
eric

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#190348

On 12/27/2017 3:29 PM, Eric S Fraga wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> "apt search ufraw" finds nothing but if I search on the debian website,
> I find
> 
>      https://packages.debian.org/buster/ufraw
> 
> My question is simply: why does apt not find ufraw where my sources.list
> file includes the following line:
> 
>      deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ buster main non-free contrib
> 
> ?  I am quite confused, especially as I can find the .deb file on the
> website at the UK ftp server.  Any clarification to help my confusion
> would be welcome!
> 

You can try:
'apt search -t buster ufraw" '

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#190361

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On Wednesday, 27 Dec 2017 at 18:02, john doe wrote:

[...]

> You can try:
> 'apt search -t buster ufraw" '

Thanks but this gives me:

$ apt search -t buster ufraw
Sorting... Done
Full Text Search... Done

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#190376

On 12/27/2017 10:08 PM, Eric S Fraga wrote:
> On Wednesday, 27 Dec 2017 at 18:02, john doe wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
>> You can try:
>> 'apt search -t buster ufraw"'
> 
> Thanks but this gives me:
> 
> $ apt search -t buster ufraw
> Sorting... Done
> Full Text Search... Done
> 

In '/etc/apt/sources.list':

deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ buster main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ buster main contrib non-free

Where 'de' needs to be change to your country code.

Then run the following command without the single quotes:
'apt-get update && apt search -t buster ufraw'

Gives me:
"Sorting... Done
Full Text Search... Done
darktable/testing 2.2.5-2 amd64
   virtual lighttable and darkroom for photographers

gimp-ufraw/testing 0.22-2 amd64
   gimp importer for raw camera images

ufraw/testing 0.22-2 amd64
   standalone importer for raw camera images

ufraw-batch/testing 0.22-2 amd64
   batch importer for raw camera images"

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On Thursday, 28 Dec 2017 at 07:47, john doe wrote:

[...]

> In '/etc/apt/sources.list':
>
> deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ buster main contrib non-free
> deb-src http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ buster main contrib non-free

That's essentially what I have already:

deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ buster main non-free contrib
deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ buster main non-free contrib

Thanks,
eric

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#190439

On 12/28/2017 7:46 PM, Eric S Fraga wrote:
> On Thursday, 28 Dec 2017 at 07:47, john doe wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
>> In '/etc/apt/sources.list':
>>
>> deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ buster main contrib non-free
>> deb-src http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ buster main contrib non-free
> 
> That's essentially what I have already:
> 
> deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ buster main non-free contrib
> deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ buster main non-free contrib
> 

I had rongly assumed that you were trying to install buster packages 
into stretch, so '-t buster' is clearly not needed.

Have you already tried?:

$ apt-get clean && apt-get update && apt search ufraw

You may want 'autoclean' instead of 'clean'.

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#190447

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On Friday, 29 Dec 2017 at 06:30, john doe wrote:

[...]

> I had rongly assumed that you were trying to install buster packages
> into stretch, so '-t buster' is clearly not needed.

Sorry, should have made myself more clear.  Yes, I'm already at buster.

> Have you already tried?:
>
> $ apt-get clean && apt-get update && apt search ufraw

This does the job!  The only thing I had not done previously is

    apt-get clean

but for some reason this has fixed things.  I'm not sure I understand
why, mind you.

Now time to work on my photos! :-)

Thank you,
eric

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#190475

On 12/29/2017 3:02 PM, Eric S Fraga wrote:
> On Friday, 29 Dec 2017 at 06:30, john doe wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
>> I had rongly assumed that you were trying to install buster packages
>> into stretch, so '-t buster' is clearly not needed.
> 
> Sorry, should have made myself more clear.  Yes, I'm already at buster.
> 

Actually, your subject line was explicit enough! :)

>> Have you already tried?:
>>
>> $ apt-get clean && apt-get update && apt search ufraw
> 
> This does the job!  The only thing I had not done previously is
> 
>      apt-get clean
> 
> but for some reason this has fixed things.  I'm not sure I understand
> why, mind you.
> 

In a nutshell:

The 'clean' command will remove what the 'update' command has downloaded.

It looks like in your case your package index files were some how corrupted.
That's why cleaning and updating did the trick! :)
As recommended by the below URL 'apt-get update' is required before 
installing/upgrading package(s).
If you go command line I would suggest you to familiorise yourself with 
the following commands:
apt-get {clean|autoclean|update|upgrade|dist-upgrade}

https://linux.die.net/man/8/apt-get

> Now time to work on my photos! :-)
> 

Nice to hear that it is working for you.
Do not hesitate to come back if you need more info.

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#190482

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On Sunday, 31 Dec 2017 at 11:02, john doe wrote:
> Actually, your subject line was explicit enough! :)

Indeed!  ;-)

> It looks like in your case your package index files were some how corrupted.
> That's why cleaning and updating did the trick! :)
> As recommended by the below URL 'apt-get update' is required before
> installing/upgrading package(s).
> If you go command line I would suggest you to familiorise yourself
> with the following commands:
> apt-get {clean|autoclean|update|upgrade|dist-upgrade}

I do use these and have for umpteen years; I only use the command line
as I'm very much old skool, weaned as I was on Unix v7 ;-)!

It's the first time I have encountered such a strange situation.  I must
admit, however, that I never use clean/autoclean because I like having
all the old files saved in the archive cache.  This has been a lifesaver
at times in the past as tracking testing is sometimes (very
infrequently) harmful...

Anyway, thanks for your help!  I've spent the past couple of days
playing with my raw images, a perfect activity given the gloomy rainy
weather we are having in the UK at the moment.

Happy new year!

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#190483

On Sun 31 Dec 2017 at 14:57:56 +0000, Eric S Fraga wrote:

> On Sunday, 31 Dec 2017 at 11:02, john doe wrote:
> > Actually, your subject line was explicit enough! :)
> 
> Indeed!  ;-)
> 
> > It looks like in your case your package index files were some how corrupted.
> > That's why cleaning and updating did the trick! :)
> > As recommended by the below URL 'apt-get update' is required before
> > installing/upgrading package(s).
> > If you go command line I would suggest you to familiorise yourself
> > with the following commands:
> > apt-get {clean|autoclean|update|upgrade|dist-upgrade}
> 
> I do use these and have for umpteen years; I only use the command line
> as I'm very much old skool, weaned as I was on Unix v7 ;-)!
> 
> It's the first time I have encountered such a strange situation.  I must
> admit, however, that I never use clean/autoclean because I like having
> all the old files saved in the archive cache.  This has been a lifesaver
> at times in the past as tracking testing is sometimes (very
> infrequently) harmful...

Which is why the adice to delete only pkgcache.bin and srcpkgcache.bin
was given :). As a matter of interest, how do the sizes of those files
compare with what you had previously?

Note that, by default, apt deletes files in archives after downloading
and installing them.

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On Sunday, 31 Dec 2017 at 15:25, Brian wrote:

[...]

> Which is why the adice to delete only pkgcache.bin and srcpkgcache.bin
> was given :). 

Yes but I had done 'apt-get clean' by then unfortunately!

> As a matter of interest, how do the sizes of those files
> compare with what you had previously?

Much bigger, order of magnitude or more.

> Note that, by default, apt deletes files in archives after downloading
> and installing them.

But apt-get does not?  I've only started using apt instead of apt-cache
and apt-get recently so I'm not up to speed on the differences.

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#190486

On Sun 31 Dec 2017 at 15:53:14 +0000, Eric S Fraga wrote:

> On Sunday, 31 Dec 2017 at 15:25, Brian wrote:
> 
> > Note that, by default, apt deletes files in archives after downloading
> > and installing them.
> 
> But apt-get does not?  I've only started using apt instead of apt-cache
> and apt-get recently so I'm not up to speed on the differences.

/usr/share/doc/apt/NEWS.Debian.gz.

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#190488

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On Sunday, 31 Dec 2017 at 16:07, Brian wrote:
> On Sun 31 Dec 2017 at 15:53:14 +0000, Eric S Fraga wrote:
>> But apt-get does not?  I've only started using apt instead of apt-cache
>> and apt-get recently so I'm not up to speed on the differences.
>
> /usr/share/doc/apt/NEWS.Debian.gz.

Thanks.  Confusing to have two different outcomes from very similar
commands but so be it!

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#190491

On Sun 31 Dec 2017 at 16:26:48 +0000, Eric S Fraga wrote:

> On Sunday, 31 Dec 2017 at 16:07, Brian wrote:
> > On Sun 31 Dec 2017 at 15:53:14 +0000, Eric S Fraga wrote:
> >> But apt-get does not?  I've only started using apt instead of apt-cache
> >> and apt-get recently so I'm not up to speed on the differences.
> >
> > /usr/share/doc/apt/NEWS.Debian.gz.
> 
> Thanks.  Confusing to have two different outcomes from very similar
> commands but so be it!

Indeed; especially if you are coming from apt-get. But, if you think
about it, do users want to keep all the debs they have downloaded? In
some circumstances on some machines I know I do, but, on the whole,
updating and upgrading is without regard to future problems. Anyway,
snapshot.debian.org is at hand.

I'm moved to suggest that apt rather than apt-get is the recommended
utility to be advised in debian-user. Fewer keystrokes. :)

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#190506

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On Sunday, 31 Dec 2017 at 19:53, Brian wrote:
> Indeed; especially if you are coming from apt-get. But, if you think
> about it, do users want to keep all the debs they have downloaded? 

I agree: removing the .deb files makes sense for most use cases.

> I'm moved to suggest that apt rather than apt-get is the recommended
> utility to be advised in debian-user. Fewer keystrokes. :)

Not just shorter but easier as well :-)

Happy new year!

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#190351

On Wed 27 Dec 2017 at 14:29:02 +0000, Eric S Fraga wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> "apt search ufraw" finds nothing but if I search on the debian website,
> I find
> 
>     https://packages.debian.org/buster/ufraw
> 
> My question is simply: why does apt not find ufraw where my sources.list
> file includes the following line: 
> 
>     deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ buster main non-free contrib
> 
> ?  I am quite confused, especially as I can find the .deb file on the
> website at the UK ftp server.  Any clarification to help my confusion
> would be welcome!

Post the outputs of

ls -l /var/cache/apt/
ls -l /var/lib/apt/lists/

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#190363

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On Wednesday, 27 Dec 2017 at 18:18, Brian wrote:

[...]

> Post the outputs of
>
> ls -l /var/cache/apt/
> ls -l /var/lib/apt/lists/
>

/var/cache/apt $ ls -l
total 4151
drwxr-xr-x   3 root           root      679936 2017-12-27 10:16 archives
-rw-r--r--   1 root           root     3019781 2017-12-27 14:26 pkgcache.bin
-rw-r--r--   1 root           root      551317 2017-12-27 10:15 srcpkgcache.bin
/var/cache/apt $ ls -l /var/lib/apt/lists
total 12211
-rw-r--r--   1 root           root        5208 2017-12-24 10:55 emacs.secretsauce.net_dists_unstable_InRelease
-rw-r--r--   1 root           root       14461 2017-12-24 10:55 emacs.secretsauce.net_dists_unstable_main_binary-amd64_Packages
-rw-r--r--   1 root           root        2469 2017-12-24 10:55 emacs.secretsauce.net_dists_unstable_main_source_Sources
-rw-r--r--   1 root           root      142252 2017-12-27 08:42 ftp.uk.debian.org_debian_dists_buster_InRelease
-rw-r--r--   1 root           root           0 2017-12-26 02:24 ftp.uk.debian.org_debian_dists_buster_contrib_binary-amd64_Packages
-rw-r--r--   1 root           root       27796 2017-12-26 02:24 ftp.uk.debian.org_debian_dists_buster_contrib_binary-amd64_Packages.diff_Index
-rw-r--r--   1 root           root        3024 2017-11-02 03:55 ftp.uk.debian.org_debian_dists_buster_contrib_dep11_Components-amd64.yml.gz
-rw-r--r--   1 root           root       37672 2017-11-02 03:55 ftp.uk.debian.org_debian_dists_buster_contrib_dep11_icons-64x64.tar.gz
-rw-r--r--   1 root           root      213674 2017-12-23 02:27 ftp.uk.debian.org_debian_dists_buster_contrib_i18n_Translation-en
-rw-r--r--   1 root           root       26320 2017-12-23 02:27 ftp.uk.debian.org_debian_dists_buster_contrib_i18n_Translation-en.diff_Index
-rw-r--r--   1 root           root      186866 2017-12-25 02:23 ftp.uk.debian.org_debian_dists_buster_contrib_source_Sources
-rw-r--r--   1 root           root       27796 2017-12-25 02:23 ftp.uk.debian.org_debian_dists_buster_contrib_source_Sources.diff_Index
-rw-r--r--   1 root           root           0 2017-12-27 08:29 ftp.uk.debian.org_debian_dists_buster_main_binary-amd64_Packages
-rw-r--r--   1 root           root       27910 2017-12-27 08:29 ftp.uk.debian.org_debian_dists_buster_main_binary-amd64_Packages.diff_Index
-rw-r--r--   1 root           root     4611798 2017-11-02 03:26 ftp.uk.debian.org_debian_dists_buster_main_dep11_Components-amd64.yml.gz
-rw-r--r--   1 root           root     6598527 2017-11-02 03:23 ftp.uk.debian.org_debian_dists_buster_main_dep11_icons-64x64.tar.gz
-rw-r--r--   1 root           root           0 2017-12-27 02:31 ftp.uk.debian.org_debian_dists_buster_main_i18n_Translation-en
-rw-r--r--   1 root           root       27910 2017-12-27 02:31 ftp.uk.debian.org_debian_dists_buster_main_i18n_Translation-en.diff_Index
-rw-r--r--   1 root           root           0 2017-12-27 08:32 ftp.uk.debian.org_debian_dists_buster_main_source_Sources
-rw-r--r--   1 root           root       27910 2017-12-27 08:32 ftp.uk.debian.org_debian_dists_buster_main_source_Sources.diff_Index
-rw-r--r--   1 root           root           0 2017-12-27 02:31 ftp.uk.debian.org_debian_dists_buster_non-free_binary-amd64_Packages
-rw-r--r--   1 root           root       27796 2017-12-27 02:31 ftp.uk.debian.org_debian_dists_buster_non-free_binary-amd64_Packages.diff_Index
-rw-r--r--   1 root           root        7639 2017-11-01 03:42 ftp.uk.debian.org_debian_dists_buster_non-free_dep11_Components-amd64.yml.gz
-rw-r--r--   1 root           root        1813 2017-10-03 21:48 ftp.uk.debian.org_debian_dists_buster_non-free_dep11_icons-64x64.tar.gz
-rw-r--r--   1 root           root      387537 2017-12-10 20:20 ftp.uk.debian.org_debian_dists_buster_non-free_i18n_Translation-en
-rw-r--r--   1 root           root       19432 2017-12-10 20:20 ftp.uk.debian.org_debian_dists_buster_non-free_i18n_Translation-en.diff_Index
-rw-r--r--   1 root           root           0 2017-12-27 02:34 ftp.uk.debian.org_debian_dists_buster_non-free_source_Sources
-rw-r--r--   1 root           root       27796 2017-12-27 02:34 ftp.uk.debian.org_debian_dists_buster_non-free_source_Sources.diff_Index
-rw-r-----   1 root           root           0 2016-09-30  2016 lock
drwx------   2 _apt           root       24576 2017-12-27 10:15 partial
-rw-r--r--   1 root           root       25508 2017-12-25 15:41 security.debian.org_debian-security_dists_buster_updates_InRelease
/var/cache/apt $ 

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#190379

On Wed 27 Dec 2017 at 21:36:52 +0000, Eric S Fraga wrote:

> On Wednesday, 27 Dec 2017 at 18:18, Brian wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> > Post the outputs of
> >
> > ls -l /var/cache/apt/
> > ls -l /var/lib/apt/lists/
> >
> 
> /var/cache/apt $ ls -l
> total 4151
> drwxr-xr-x   3 root           root      679936 2017-12-27 10:16 archives
> -rw-r--r--   1 root           root     3019781 2017-12-27 14:26 pkgcache.bin
> -rw-r--r--   1 root           root      551317 2017-12-27 10:15 srcpkgcache.bin

On my unstable installation pkgcache.bin is some 28M in size.

> /var/cache/apt $ ls -l /var/lib/apt/lists

[...]

'apt search' (and 'apt-cache search') gets its information from what is
in lists. Try searching through all files there with

grep "^Package:.*ufraw" *

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#190418

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On Thursday, 28 Dec 2017 at 08:34, Brian wrote:

[...]

> 'apt search' (and 'apt-cache search') gets its information from what is
> in lists. Try searching through all files there with
>
> grep "^Package:.*ufraw" *

Well, interesting.  ufraw is listed in

ftp.uk.debian.org_debian_dists_main_binary-amd64_Packages 

but apt search doesn't fine it.

Very strange.
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#190445

On Thu 28 Dec 2017 at 18:44:46 +0000, Eric S Fraga wrote:

> On Thursday, 28 Dec 2017 at 08:34, Brian wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> > 'apt search' (and 'apt-cache search') gets its information from what is
> > in lists. Try searching through all files there with
> >
> > grep "^Package:.*ufraw" *
> 
> Well, interesting.  ufraw is listed in
> 
> ftp.uk.debian.org_debian_dists_main_binary-amd64_Packages 
> 
> but apt search doesn't fine it.
> 
> Very strange.

What is the error message? Does 'apt search ....' find anything? How
about 'apt show ufraw'?

Comment out everything in sources.list and do 'apt update'. There
should now be no package information in lists. Delete pkgcache.bin
and srcpkgcache.bin. Add the single line

  deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian buster main

to sources.list and do 'apt update'. 'apt search ufraw'?


(I'd use "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster main" but that is
probably neither here nor there).

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