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Re: Re: Is there any software where I can find free software suggestions classified by category and by user rating in Debian?

Started byPablo Castillo Rivas <castillorivaspablo@gmail.com>
First post2017-12-27 19:10 +0100
Last post2017-12-28 17:00 +0100
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  Re: Re: Is there any software where I can find free software  suggestions classified by category and by user rating in Debian? Pablo Castillo Rivas <castillorivaspablo@gmail.com> - 2017-12-27 19:10 +0100
    Re: Re: Is there any software where I can find free software  suggestions classified by category and by user rating in Debian? Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2017-12-27 21:50 +0100
    Re: Is there any software where I can find free software  suggestions classified by category and by user rating in Debian? Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2017-12-27 23:20 +0100
      Re: Is there any software where I can find free software suggestions  classified by category and by user rating in Debian? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-12-28 10:00 +0100
        Re: Is there any software where I can find free software  suggestions  classified by category and by user rating in Debian? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2017-12-28 16:20 +0100
          Re: Is there any software where I can find free software suggestions  classified by category and by user rating in Debian? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-12-28 16:30 +0100
            Re: Is there any software where I can find free software  suggestions  classified by category and by user rating in Debian? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2017-12-28 17:00 +0100

#190350 — Re: Re: Is there any software where I can find free software suggestions classified by category and by user rating in Debian?

FromPablo Castillo Rivas <castillorivaspablo@gmail.com>
Date2017-12-27 19:10 +0100
SubjectRe: Re: Is there any software where I can find free software suggestions classified by category and by user rating in Debian?
Message-ID<v1ojn-5cr-7@gated-at.bofh.it>

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> Probably you're looking for this:
> > https://packages.debian.org/stretch/gnome-software <https://packages.debian.org/stretch/gnome-software>


Despite there are few user votes, that is basically what I missed. Thanks.
Since it is an easy, time-saving way to find apps, why isn't something like
this included in the Debian installation?

-- 
Un saludo,
Pablo Castillo.

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#190360

FromReco <recoverym4n@gmail.com>
Date2017-12-27 21:50 +0100
Message-ID<v1qOe-6JZ-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#190350
On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 06:46:15PM +0100, Pablo Castillo Rivas wrote:
> > Probably you're looking for this:
> > > https://packages.debian.org/stretch/gnome-software <https://packages.debian.org/stretch/gnome-software>
> 
> 
> Despite there are few user votes, that is basically what I missed. Thanks.
> Since it is an easy, time-saving way to find apps, why isn't something like
> this included in the Debian installation?

Such software would serve no purpose in a typical server environment.
It has a very limited function in build chroot.
And contrary to what Debian GNOME Maintainers want you to believe, the
desktop environment world does not end with GNOME. And like most GNOME
software, gnome-software (pun intended) is completely useless outside of
GNOME.

Reco

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#190366

FromJoe <joe@jretrading.com>
Date2017-12-27 23:20 +0100
Message-ID<v1sdk-7QA-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#190350
On Wed, 27 Dec 2017 18:46:15 +0100
Pablo Castillo Rivas <castillorivaspablo@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Probably you're looking for this:  
> > > https://packages.debian.org/stretch/gnome-software
> > > <https://packages.debian.org/stretch/gnome-software>  
> 
> 
> Despite there are few user votes, that is basically what I missed.
> Thanks. Since it is an easy, time-saving way to find apps, why isn't
> something like this included in the Debian installation?
> 

I hesitate to mention it, but Mint and Ubuntu, and to a slightly lesser
extent, Gnome, are aimed at a different user base than would be
expected to use straight Debian. 

People who go for basic Debian often deliberately avoid Gnome and KDE
(I use a couple of applications designed for both that I like, but not
the environments themselves) because they prefer to make their own
choices. Such people are less likely to want to know what other people
use, or what other people think are good, and are more likely to try the
alternatives themselves to decide which one (or more) best suits their
needs. 

For example, I use Network Manager on my portable Debians, a practice
which causes many people to hiss and hold up crossed fingers, but I
find that it Works For Me. On the other hand, I don't have it on my
desktop, because I occasionally do odd network things and don't want to
try to fight a 'helpful' piece of software, and it would never occur to
me to put it on a server. Horses for courses. You might well use two or
even three different text editors for different purposes, with none of
them being the best for all purposes. I have at least three different
web browsers installed, as while I normally use Firefox, sometimes it
can't deal with an odd website. There's no real shortcut to finding out
what works for you.

-- 
Joe

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#190380 — Re: Is there any software where I can find free software suggestions classified by category and by user rating in Debian?

From<tomas@tuxteam.de>
Date2017-12-28 10:00 +0100
SubjectRe: Is there any software where I can find free software suggestions classified by category and by user rating in Debian?
Message-ID<v1CcG-645-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
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On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 10:11:26PM +0000, Joe wrote:

[...]

> For example, I use Network Manager on my portable Debians, a practice
> which causes many people to hiss and hold up crossed fingers,

*hiss* X X X

;-)

> but I find that it Works For Me.

That's it: if it Works For You, more power to you (and to NM's makers).

There's software out there (even free one) I downright detest, but
tastes and needs are so different that the idea of One Software to
Rule Them All doesn't even make sense.

We do need a large pool of diverse software. The more open the barriers
between the different villages the better (Free[1] helps in that, remember.
Mudslinging wars not so much).

Cheers

[1] Some people (me, for example) might have additional motivators
   for Free.
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#190401 — Re: Is there any software where I can find free software suggestions classified by category and by user rating in Debian?

FromDan Purgert <dan@djph.net>
Date2017-12-28 16:20 +0100
SubjectRe: Is there any software where I can find free software suggestions classified by category and by user rating in Debian?
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<tomas@tuxteam.de> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 10:11:26PM +0000, Joe wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>> For example, I use Network Manager on my portable Debians, a practice
>> which causes many people to hiss and hold up crossed fingers,
>
> *hiss* X X X

Beat me to it :)
> [...]
> There's software out there (even free one) I downright detest, but
> tastes and needs are so different that the idea of One Software to
> Rule Them All doesn't even make sense.

And yet ... other people feel there should be "One Software to Rule Them
All".  It's a bit discouraging.  I like the legoblocks approach; hope
enough others do to keep that idea going.


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#190402 — Re: Is there any software where I can find free software suggestions classified by category and by user rating in Debian?

From<tomas@tuxteam.de>
Date2017-12-28 16:30 +0100
SubjectRe: Is there any software where I can find free software suggestions classified by category and by user rating in Debian?
Message-ID<v1Ii5-1Y7-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
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On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 03:02:17PM -0000, Dan Purgert wrote:

[...]

> And yet ... other people feel there should be "One Software to Rule Them
> All".  It's a bit discouraging.  I like the legoblocks approach; hope
> enough others do to keep that idea going.

Remember: The Ring ends up in the volcano ;-)

Don't give up.

Cheers
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#190404 — Re: Is there any software where I can find free software suggestions classified by category and by user rating in Debian?

FromDan Purgert <dan@djph.net>
Date2017-12-28 17:00 +0100
SubjectRe: Is there any software where I can find free software suggestions classified by category and by user rating in Debian?
Message-ID<v1IL7-2cF-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
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<tomas@tuxteam.de> wrote:
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> On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 03:02:17PM -0000, Dan Purgert wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>> And yet ... other people feel there should be "One Software to Rule Them
>> All".  It's a bit discouraging.  I like the legoblocks approach; hope
>> enough others do to keep that idea going.
>
> Remember: The Ring ends up in the volcano ;-)

Indeed it does.  But there are so many, which volcano is the right one?


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