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  Re: aplay fails on amd64 laptop Pierre Frenkiel <pierre.frenkiel@gmail.com> - 2017-12-22 14:30 +0100
    Re: aplay fails on amd64 laptop <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-12-22 17:40 +0100
      Re: aplay fails on amd64 laptop Pierre Frenkiel <pierre.frenkiel@gmail.com> - 2017-12-22 18:10 +0100
        Re: aplay fails on amd64 laptop Tom Furie <tom@furie.org.uk> - 2017-12-22 18:30 +0100
          Re: aplay fails on amd64 laptop Pierre Frenkiel <pierre.frenkiel@gmail.com> - 2017-12-22 18:40 +0100
            Re: aplay fails on amd64 laptop deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2017-12-23 01:10 +0100
    Re: aplay fails on amd64 laptop deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2017-12-23 01:00 +0100
      Re: aplay fails on amd64 laptop Pierre Frenkiel <pierre.frenkiel@gmail.com> - 2017-12-23 10:50 +0100
        Re: aplay fails on amd64 laptop deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2017-12-23 11:10 +0100
          Re: aplay fails on amd64 laptop Pierre Frenkiel <pierre.frenkiel@gmail.com> - 2017-12-23 12:40 +0100
            Re: aplay fails on amd64 laptop deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2017-12-23 13:00 +0100
              Re: aplay fails on amd64 laptop Pierre Frenkiel <pierre.frenkiel@gmail.com> - 2017-12-23 13:20 +0100
                Re: aplay fails on amd64 laptop deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2017-12-23 21:00 +0100
              Re: aplay fails on amd64 laptop Pierre Frenkiel <pierre.frenkiel@gmail.com> - 2017-12-24 17:10 +0100

#190146 — Re: aplay fails on amd64 laptop

On Thu, 21 Dec 2017, deloptes wrote:

> you need to use hw:1.0
> as you target your second card, or configure snd module to initialize the
> analog as first card

   thank you for your reply, but can you be a little more specific:
   what do you mean exactly by "use hw:1.0" ?
   where? in a config file, in the aplay command line ...?

best regards,
-- 
Pierre Frenkiel

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#190148

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On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 02:21:42PM +0100, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Dec 2017, deloptes wrote:
> 
> >you need to use hw:1.0
> >as you target your second card, or configure snd module to initialize the
> >analog as first card
> 
>   thank you for your reply, but can you be a little more specific:
>   what do you mean exactly by "use hw:1.0" ?
>   where? in a config file, in the aplay command line ...?

Either in the command line (option -D, i.e. "device", cf aplay man
page) or in the config file (possibly ~/.asoundrc, don't know off
the top of my head how you specify that there, but try

  http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Asoundrc)

Cheers 

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#190151

On Fri, 22 Dec 2017, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:

> Either in the command line (option -D, i.e. "device", cf aplay man
> page) or in the config file (possibly ~/.asoundrc, don't know off
> the top of my head how you specify that there, but try
>
>  http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Asoundrc)

I already did, as reported in my 1st post: aplay -D default file.wav
with the config given in the above link
->aplay -D default file.wav
    Playing WAVE 'file.wav' : Unsigned 8 bit, Rate 11025 Hz, Stereo
    aplay: set_params:1299: Sample format non available
    Available formats:
    - S16_LE
    - S32_LE

with hw:1:0, same result
->aplay -D hw:1,0 file.wav
    Playing WAVE 'file.wav' : Unsigned 8 bit, Rate 11025 Hz, Stereo
    aplay: set_params:1299: Sample format non available
    Available formats:
    - S16_LE
    - S32_LE

the given link gives no new information

best regards,
-- 
Pierre Frenkiel

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#190152

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On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 06:03:22PM +0100, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:

> with hw:1:0, same result
> ->aplay -D hw:1,0 file.wav
>    Playing WAVE 'file.wav' : Unsigned 8 bit, Rate 11025 Hz, Stereo
>    aplay: set_params:1299: Sample format non available
>    Available formats:
>    - S16_LE
>    - S32_LE

Are the 1:0 and 1,0 above typos in the mail? If not, they should be 1.0.

Cheers,
Tom

-- 
And now for something completely different.

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#190153

On Fri, 22 Dec 2017, Tom Furie wrote:

> Are the 1:0 and 1,0 above typos in the mail? If not, they should be 1.0.

   no: look at : http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Asoundrc
   I checked with aplay -D hw:1.0 brahms.wav.
   this gives :
      Invalid value for card

best regards,
-- 
Pierre Frenkiel

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#190177

Pierre Frenkiel wrote:

> On Fri, 22 Dec 2017, Tom Furie wrote:
> 
>> Are the 1:0 and 1,0 above typos in the mail? If not, they should be 1.0.
> 
>    no: look at : http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Asoundrc
>    I checked with aplay -D hw:1.0 brahms.wav.
>    this gives :
>       Invalid value for card
> 
> best regards,

I think it should be hw:1,0 or plughw:1,0

but are you sure it you have unmuted your channels (alsamixer)

also try by disabling HDMI in bios

regards

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#190176

Pierre Frenkiel wrote:

> thank you for your reply, but can you be a little more specific:
> what do you mean exactly by "use hw:1.0" ?
> where? in a config file, in the aplay command line ...?

man aplay

aplay -D hw:1,0

or -Dplughw:1,0

look also at alsa docs to understand how sound system in linux works. IMO
best is to configure the modules/drivers to have your analog as first card.
or disable HDMI (it was workaround in such cases)

regards

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#190184

On Sat, 23 Dec 2017, deloptes wrote:

> man aplay
   the useful information is given by "aplay -L", which lists
   19 devices, among which 2 are working:
     sysdefault:CARD=Generic
     plughw:CARD=Generic,DEV=0

> aplay -D hw:1,0
   this also gives
      aplay: set_params:1299: Sample format non available

> or -Dplughw:1,0
   this works, and also  -Dplughw:Generic

   Actually, I found the plughw syntax by accident, when trying once
   aplay file.wav, which gave:

     Playing WAVE 'file.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 11025 Hz, Stereo
     Warning: rate is not accurate (requested = 11025Hz, got = 44100Hz)
          please, try the plug plugin (-Dplug:default)

I appreciate this  comment in the alsa doc:
     It would be even nicer if the --help and man output of aplay would
     define what NAME of "--device=NAME" should be set to. Then people
     would not have to search the Internet to find out.

best regards,
-- 
Pierre Frenkiel

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#190185

Pierre Frenkiel wrote:

>> aplay -D hw:1,0
> this also gives
> aplay: set_params:1299: Sample format non available

you could also set the sample format ;-) - I was hoping you try to find out
the way yourself.

regards

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#190194

On Sat, 23 Dec 2017, deloptes wrote:

> Pierre Frenkiel wrote:
>
>>> aplay -D hw:1,0
>> this also gives
>> aplay: set_params:1299: Sample format non available
>
> you could also set the sample format ;-) - I was hoping you try to find out
> the way yourself.

   1/ I don't see why I should loose time with hw:1,0, when the
      plughw syntax works perfectly

   2/ It's a strange way to help people to say them "find yourself"
      Generally, when people ask for help, it's that there are, like me,
      too stupid to find themselves.
      I suggest to avoid useless posts

best regards,
-- 
Pierre Frenkiel

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#190198

Pierre Frenkiel wrote:

> It's a strange way to help people to say them "find yourself"
> Generally, when people ask for help, it's that there are, like me,
> too stupid to find themselves.
> I suggest to avoid useless posts

but I told you also about plughw - no?

a brief look into man aplay tells you the -f option could be used example -f
cd (I think it was 44100Hz)

no idea why you are so resistant to getting the knowledge yourself - the man
page is even not that long and you should start reading yourself.

you know there are two types of help: feed the hungry or teach them make
food themselves - I prefer the 2nd one - you the 1st one - no reason to get
personal

regards

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#190200

On Sat, 23 Dec 2017, deloptes wrote:

> you know there are two types of help: feed the hungry or teach them make
> food themselves - I prefer the 2nd one - you the 1st one - no reason to get
> personal

   from wikipedia:
      A teacher is a person who helps others to acquire knowledge, competences
      or values.

   do you think that "find yourself" matches this definition?

   FYI, I tried all -f options, and no one worked.

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#190217

Pierre Frenkiel wrote:

> do you think that "find yourself" matches this definition?

It might surprise you but yes :)

If you have read man aplay to the end you would have found following

aplay -c 1 -t raw -r 22050 -f mu_law foobar
              will play the raw file "foobar" as a 22050-Hz, mono, 8-bit,
Mu-Law .au file.

Adjusting it a bit to my setup (-Ddefault) produces following with sound

$ aplay -Ddefault -c 1 -t raw -r 22050 -f
mu_law /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Side_Left.wav
Warning: format is changed to S16_LE
Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/alsa/Side_Left.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little
Endian, Rate 48000 Hz, Mono

I use default because pulseaudio is hooked at the alsa device

regards

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#190248

On Sat, 23 Dec 2017, deloptes wrote:

> but I told you also about plughw - no?

   yes, but I told you before that I found it myself by accident, when
   trying on an other wav file.

> no idea why you are so resistant to getting the knowledge yourself - the man
> page is even not that long and you should start reading yourself.

   I read it, but it seems that you didn't unserstand that it gives just an
   example, and doesn't provide any way to find the right parameters
   for an other file.

   None of the parameters I tried worked, until I used the -Dplughw
   syntax.

   Anyway, I think useless to continue talking with somebody who
   can say that "teaching the hungry how to make food" is equivalent to
   "tell them to find themselves"

   I hope that the Education Minister will not read that, otherwise he
   could think that it is useless to pay thousands of teachers, as
   it is enough to tell the students "find yourself"

best regards,
-- 
Pierre Frenkiel

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