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| First post | 2017-12-25 17:50 +0100 |
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Re: Mixing and Matching DHCP and static IPs Marc Auslander <marcslists@gmail.com> - 2017-12-25 17:50 +0100
Re: Mixing and Matching DHCP and static IPs Sven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de> - 2017-12-25 18:00 +0100
Re: Mixing and Matching DHCP and static IPs Mark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com> - 2017-12-26 02:00 +0100
Re: Mixing and Matching DHCP and static IPs Mark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com> - 2017-12-26 02:00 +0100
Re: Mixing and Matching DHCP and static IPs Paul Johnson <baloo@ursamundi.org> - 2017-12-26 03:30 +0100
Re: Mixing and Matching DHCP and static IPs Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2017-12-26 20:40 +0100
Re: Mixing and Matching DHCP and static IPs Mark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com> - 2017-12-27 12:40 +0100
| From | Marc Auslander <marcslists@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-12-25 17:50 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Mixing and Matching DHCP and static IPs |
| Message-ID | <v0E6S-6gg-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
The safest way to fix an ip address in a dhcp served network is to tell the dhcp server to associate that address with the mac of the unit. The address should be outside the dhcp range you set up. I normall pin down all my connected devices that way, leaving the dhcp assignment for guests etc. I've never seen a router which didn't support this.
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| From | Sven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de> |
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| Date | 2017-12-25 18:00 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <v0Egx-6jI-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #190260 |
Marc Auslander <marcslists@gmail.com> wrote: > The safest way to fix an ip address in a dhcp served network is to tell > the dhcp server to associate that address with the mac of the unit. The > address should be outside the dhcp range you set up. I normall pin down > all my connected devices that way, leaving the dhcp assignment for > guests etc. The technical term of this is "DHCP reservation". Grüße, Sven. -- Sigmentation fault. Core dumped.
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| From | Mark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-12-26 02:00 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <v0LL4-2YR-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #190261 |
On Mon, Dec 25, 2017 at 05:53:42PM +0100, Sven Hartge wrote: > Marc Auslander <marcslists@gmail.com> wrote: > > > The safest way to fix an ip address in a dhcp served network is to tell > > the dhcp server to associate that address with the mac of the unit. The > > address should be outside the dhcp range you set up. I normall pin down > > all my connected devices that way, leaving the dhcp assignment for > > guests etc. > > The technical term of this is "DHCP reservation". > Thanks Sven, that will help me find documentation on doing this with dhcpd. Mark
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| From | Mark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-12-26 02:00 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <v0LL4-2YR-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #190260 |
On Mon, Dec 25, 2017 at 11:49:17AM -0500, Marc Auslander wrote: > The safest way to fix an ip address in a dhcp served network is to tell > the dhcp server to associate that address with the mac of the unit. The > address should be outside the dhcp range you set up. I normall pin down > all my connected devices that way, leaving the dhcp assignment for > guests etc. I've never seen a router which didn't support this. > Thanks, this sounds like a plan. Would doing so be likely to change the routing information clients get about how to reach other clients on the same subnet? It would SEEM that the problem boils down to 192.168.1.2 (AirStation) not knowing how to route to 192.168.1.3 (PI), when there is no router required here, they can talk directly... I'll try it anyway. Thanks. Mark
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| From | Paul Johnson <baloo@ursamundi.org> |
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| Date | 2017-12-26 03:30 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <v0Na9-42N-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #190260 |
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On Mon, Dec 25, 2017 at 10:49 AM, Marc Auslander <marcslists@gmail.com> wrote: > The safest way to fix an ip address in a dhcp served network is to tell > the dhcp server to associate that address with the mac of the unit. The > address should be outside the dhcp range you set up. I normall pin down > all my connected devices that way, leaving the dhcp assignment for > guests etc. I've never seen a router which didn't support this. > > Or, just tell the DHCP server that you want a specific MAC address to always be assigned to a specific IP address. It doesn't matter if it's in or out of the assignment range, then, or whether or not the unit in question understands DHCP or is configured manually on it's end; the DHCP server will not assign another client to that IP. Though for ease of dealing with static assignments, I personally find it much simpler to do it all at the DHCP server end only if the client end speaks DHCP, just in the off chance I need to change the network configuration later.
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| From | Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> |
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| Date | 2017-12-26 20:40 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <v13eV-7hu-11@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #190271 |
On Mon, Dec 25, 2017 at 08:25:52PM -0600, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 25, 2017 at 10:49 AM, Marc Auslander <marcslists@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > The safest way to fix an ip address in a dhcp served network is to tell
> > the dhcp server to associate that address with the mac of the unit. The
> > address should be outside the dhcp range you set up. I normall pin down
> > all my connected devices that way, leaving the dhcp assignment for
> > guests etc. I've never seen a router which didn't support this.
> >
> >
> Or, just tell the DHCP server that you want a specific MAC address to
> always be assigned to a specific IP address. It doesn't matter if it's in
> or out of the assignment range, then, or whether or not the unit in
> question understands DHCP or is configured manually on it's end; the DHCP
> server will not assign another client to that IP. Though for ease of
> dealing with static assignments, I personally find it much simpler to do it
> all at the DHCP server end only if the client end speaks DHCP, just in the
> off chance I need to change the network configuration later.
Sample dhcpd config for a static IP assignment:
host thatonemachine {
hardware ethernet d0:ee:fb:13:5e:a6;
fixed-address 192.168.0.64;
}
You can read the ethernet MAC address on the machine in question
with
ip l | grep ether
-dsr-
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| From | Mark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-12-27 12:40 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <v1idX-Tq-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #190324 |
On Tue, Dec 26, 2017 at 02:30:27PM -0500, Dan Ritter wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 25, 2017 at 08:25:52PM -0600, Paul Johnson wrote:
> > On Mon, Dec 25, 2017 at 10:49 AM, Marc Auslander <marcslists@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
>
> Sample dhcpd config for a static IP assignment:
>
> host thatonemachine {
> hardware ethernet d0:ee:fb:13:5e:a6;
> fixed-address 192.168.0.64;
> }
>
> You can read the ethernet MAC address on the machine in question
> with
> ip l | grep ether
Thanks very much for this, saved me a Google search. I have done this,
replacing the mac address with the MAC address of the PI and the
fixed-address with 192.168.1.3 . Then I built the client part of the
dhcp package on the PI and verified it can now get its IP address by
DHCP from the firewall's DHCP server. Rebooted after moving the old
ifconfig config file out of the way to eradicate any trace of the old
fixed IP. The PI now correctly and reliably gets the IP from the
firewall DHCP server.
Oh and I also checked the netmask of the 192.168.1.x LAN on all 3
machines. Everywhere was using /24 or 255.255.255.0 except the DHCP
server config (and the AirStation, which was doing what it was told by
the DHCP server). Fixed the DHCP server to 255.255.255.0 and nudged the
AirStation to update accordingly.
Unfortunately, I still can't communicate with the PI from inside the
AirStation's LAN.
So, the AirStation reports an IP address of 192.168.1.2 (on what it
considers the WAN side), netmask 255.255.255.0.
On the PI (relevant part only shown, MAC elided)
# ip address
2: eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP group default qlen 1000
link/ether xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
inet 192.168.1.3/24 brd 192.168.1.255 scope global eth0
valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
# ip route (this is the whole output)
default via 192.168.1.1 dev eth0
192.168.1.0/24 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.1.3
On the firewall (relevant part only, with MACs elided):
# ip address
4: enp0s20u3: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP group default qlen 1000
link/ether xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
inet 192.168.1.1/24 brd 192.168.1.255 scope global enp0s20u3
valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
inet6 xxxx::xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx/64 scope link
valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
# ip route
default via xxx.xxx.xxx.1 dev enp3s0 proto dhcp src xxx.xxx.xxx.3 metric 1024
192.168.1.0/24 dev enp0s20u3 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.1.1
xxx.xxx.xxx.0/22 dev enp3s0 proto kernel scope link src xxx.xxx.xxx.3
xxx.xxx.xxx.1 dev enp3s0 proto dhcp scope link src xxx.xxx.xxx.3 metric 1024
enp3s0 is the device name of the external-facing interface, which gets
its IP address by DHCP from the ISP and has had no problems at any
stage.
And the firewall's DHCP configuration, nicked from the LFS build
instructions and customised a little bit (and now including the config
to fix the IP for the PI):
# Begin /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf
#
# Use this to enble / disable dynamic dns updates globally.
ddns-update-style none;
# option definitions common to all supported networks...
option domain-name-servers 14.193.100.8,14.193.100.40;
# the above are ISP-provided DNS servers and I want to eliminate dependency
# on them eventually
default-lease-time 86400;
max-lease-time 86400;
# This is a very basic subnet declaration.
subnet 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
range 192.168.1.2 192.168.1.3;
option routers 192.168.1.1;
}
host nameserver {
hardware ethernet b8:27:eb:cd:87:e8;
fixed-address 192.168.1.3;
}
# End /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf
I tried changing the fixed IP address in the above DHCP conf to
192.168.1.6, ie outside the range of what DHCP would otherwise allocate;
the PI did indeed pick up the new IP address but it made no difference.
On a machine running Stretch inside the wired part of the AirStation's
LAN (wired and wireless are the same subnet), this machine has IP
192.168.11.2:
$ ping 192.168.1.3
PING 192.168.1.3 (192.168.1.3) 56(84) bytes of data.
<long pause>
<Ctrl-C>
--- 192.168.1.3 ping statistics ---
14 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 13300ms
$ ssh 192.168.1.3
<Long Pause>
<Ctrl-C>
$
$ ping 192.168.1.1
PING 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=63 time=0.670 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=63 time=0.599 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=63 time=0.596 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=4 ttl=63 time=0.649 ms
$ ssh 192.168.1.1
mark@192.168.1.1's password:
$
and finally from 192.168.1.1 -- the firewall:
$ ssh 192.168.1.3
mark@192.168.1.3's password:
If I type the password I can log in.
I'd really like to be able to see the routing table on the AirStation.
Next steps are to build tcpdump for the firewall and the PI and see what
running it there while trying to communicate with the PI tells me, and
while it is building I will do some Googling to see if there is a way to
get the AirStation to show me its routing table. Nothing is obvious from
the web interface.
I have arranged the switch and the PI so I can see their ethernet ports
from where I am sitting at the keyboard and when I run the pings to the
PI from the Stretch machine inside the AirStation LAN I don't see any
flickering of the lights (it's hard to be precise because the connection
between firewall and AirStation is carrying all internet traffic to and
from my network so it's never quiet for long), on the other hand when I
ping the firewall from the same machine I see a regular flickering of
the relevant lights on the switch corresponding to the pings. So it
really feels like the pings are not getting through the AirStation, as
opposed to getting out and then getting lost. Still I will build tcpdump
and see what it tells me.
Mark
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