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  Re: Logitech "unifying" receiver buttons aren't? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-10-13 00:30 +0200
    Re: Logitech "unifying" receiver buttons aren't? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-10-13 00:40 +0200
      Re: Logitech "unifying" receiver buttons aren't? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-10-13 00:50 +0200
        Re: Logitech "unifying" receiver buttons aren't? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-10-13 01:00 +0200
          Re: Logitech "unifying" receiver buttons aren't? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-10-13 01:40 +0200
        Re: Logitech "unifying" receiver buttons aren't? Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> - 2017-10-13 01:20 +0200
          Re: Logitech "unifying" receiver buttons aren't? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-10-13 01:40 +0200
      Re: Logitech "unifying" receiver buttons aren't? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-10-13 01:10 +0200
        Re: Logitech "unifying" receiver buttons aren't? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-10-13 03:10 +0200
    Re: Logitech "unifying" receiver buttons aren't? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-10-13 00:50 +0200
    Re: Logitech "unifying" receiver buttons aren't? Jape Person <japers@comcast.net> - 2017-10-13 01:00 +0200

#187798 — Re: Logitech "unifying" receiver buttons aren't?

On Thu 12 Oct 2017 at 11:44:29 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> Greetings all;
> 
> What does the word Unifying, as I see in dmesg for some, but not all, the 
> the rx buttons for wireless keyboards/mice, actually mean?
> 
> I took that to mean that it could work for both their (logitech's) 
> keyboards or mice, possibly at the same time so that it might be usable 
> for both at the same time, thereby saving a usb2 socket.
> 
> Testing that theory got that idea squashed, so what exactly does that 
> word unifying mean?

AFAIK you need windows for running the Logitech application
that does the unifying. You can do it anywhere that you can
take your devices if you don't have windows. Yes, you save
a USB socket.

Cheers,
David.

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#187802

On Thursday 12 October 2017 11:50:30 David Wright wrote:

> On Thu 12 Oct 2017 at 11:44:29 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Greetings all;
> >
> > What does the word Unifying, as I see in dmesg for some, but not
> > all, the the rx buttons for wireless keyboards/mice, actually mean?
> >
> > I took that to mean that it could work for both their (logitech's)
> > keyboards or mice, possibly at the same time so that it might be
> > usable for both at the same time, thereby saving a usb2 socket.
> >
> > Testing that theory got that idea squashed, so what exactly does
> > that word unifying mean?
>
> AFAIK you need windows for running the Logitech application
> that does the unifying. You can do it anywhere that you can
> take your devices if you don't have windows. Yes, you save
> a USB socket.
>
> Cheers,
> David.

Thanks David. This is not a function available in one of the bluetooth 
tool kits?


Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#187808

On Thursday 12 October 2017 13:37:12 David Wright wrote:

> On Thu 12 Oct 2017 at 12:43:26 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Thursday 12 October 2017 11:50:30 David Wright wrote:
> > > On Thu 12 Oct 2017 at 11:44:29 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > Greetings all;
> > > >
> > > > What does the word Unifying, as I see in dmesg for some, but not
> > > > all, the the rx buttons for wireless keyboards/mice, actually
> > > > mean?
> > > >
> > > > I took that to mean that it could work for both their
> > > > (logitech's) keyboards or mice, possibly at the same time so
> > > > that it might be usable for both at the same time, thereby
> > > > saving a usb2 socket.
> > > >
> > > > Testing that theory got that idea squashed, so what exactly does
> > > > that word unifying mean?
> > >
> > > AFAIK you need windows for running the Logitech application
> > > that does the unifying. You can do it anywhere that you can
> > > take your devices if you don't have windows. Yes, you save
> > > a USB socket.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > David.
> >
> > Thanks David. This is not a function available in one of the
> > bluetooth tool kits?
>
> AIUI it's not bluetooth. solaar is new since I bought these devices,
> hence my ignorance. But do you not run jessie or later on *any* of
> your machines? The unification resides in the dongle, not the PC,
> so as I said it doesn't matter where you do it.
>
> Cheers,
> David.

I have one, the pi3, running jessie, and a rock64 laying on the floor out 
there running stretch, everything else is running wheezy yet. But I am 
in the process of making a fully rt pre-empt kernel run on the rock64.

And one of my wheezy machines just blew the MB of its computer.  Or the 
disk is contaminated. No mouse at all, and no keyboard after a login to 
start X.

There used to be a filename you could "touch" on the root of a disk that 
would force an e2fsck on the next reboot, do you recall it?

Thanks David.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#187818

On Thu 12 Oct 2017 at 16:22:27 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:

> There used to be a filename you could "touch" on the root of a disk that 
> would force an e2fsck on the next reboot, do you recall it?

That's out of date. Nowadays you add the word   forcefsck
to the linux line in grub.cfg by pressing
<any key at boot> to get the Grub menu,
<e> to edit an entry,
scroll and add the word,
<return> to boot the ephemerally modified entry.

Cheers,
David.

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#187832

On Thursday 12 October 2017 16:43:41 David Wright wrote:

> On Thu 12 Oct 2017 at 16:22:27 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > There used to be a filename you could "touch" on the root of a disk
> > that would force an e2fsck on the next reboot, do you recall it?
>
> That's out of date. Nowadays you add the word   forcefsck
> to the linux line in grub.cfg by pressing
> <any key at boot> to get the Grub menu,
> <e> to edit an entry,
> scroll and add the word,
> <return> to boot the ephemerally modified entry.
>
Sweet, and I can do that yet this evening.  Thanks David.

> Cheers,
> David.


Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#187826

On 13/10/17 09:22, Gene Heskett wrote:
> There used to be a filename you could "touch" on the root of a disk that
> would force an e2fsck on the next reboot, do you recall it?

"touch /forcefsck" no longer works. systemd uses the "fsck.mode=force" 
kernel command line parameter.

Kind regards,

-- 
Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz>
Director
Transient Software Limited <http://transient.nz/>
New Zealand

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#187831

On Thursday 12 October 2017 16:48:11 Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote:

> On 13/10/17 09:22, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > There used to be a filename you could "touch" on the root of a disk
> > that would force an e2fsck on the next reboot, do you recall it?
>
> "touch /forcefsck" no longer works. systemd uses the "fsck.mode=force"
> kernel command line parameter.
>
> Kind regards,

This is a wheezy machine.  All up to date, but still wheezy... ?

Cheers Ben, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#187822

On Thu 12 Oct 2017 at 12:43:26 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Thursday 12 October 2017 11:50:30 David Wright wrote:
> 
> > On Thu 12 Oct 2017 at 11:44:29 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > Greetings all;
> > >
> > > What does the word Unifying, as I see in dmesg for some, but not
> > > all, the the rx buttons for wireless keyboards/mice, actually mean?
> > >
> > > I took that to mean that it could work for both their (logitech's)
> > > keyboards or mice, possibly at the same time so that it might be
> > > usable for both at the same time, thereby saving a usb2 socket.
> > >
> > > Testing that theory got that idea squashed, so what exactly does
> > > that word unifying mean?
> >
> > AFAIK you need windows for running the Logitech application
> > that does the unifying. You can do it anywhere that you can
> > take your devices if you don't have windows. Yes, you save
> > a USB socket.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > David.
> 
> Thanks David. This is not a function available in one of the bluetooth 
> tool kits?

AIUI it's not bluetooth. solaar is new since I bought these devices,
hence my ignorance. But do you not run jessie or later on *any* of
your machines? The unification resides in the dongle, not the PC,
so as I said it doesn't matter where you do it.

Cheers,
David.

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#187835

On Thu 12 Oct 2017 at 12:37:12 (-0500), David Wright wrote:

> […] The unification resides in the dongle, not the PC,
> so as I said it doesn't matter where you do it.

The above implies that you can unify a device with two dongles,
and I haven't tested that. Experimenting with my wife's kbd/
mouse could lead to divorce at the moment. I might try it out
during the vacation. I don't want to accidently unpair her kbd
from her dongle in favour of mine.

Cheers,
David.

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#187809

On Thursday 12 October 2017 12:17:45 Jape Person wrote:

> On 10/12/2017 11:50 AM, David Wright wrote:
> > On Thu 12 Oct 2017 at 11:44:29 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> >> Greetings all;
> >>
> >> What does the word Unifying, as I see in dmesg for some, but not
> >> all, the the rx buttons for wireless keyboards/mice, actually mean?
> >>
> >> I took that to mean that it could work for both their (logitech's)
> >> keyboards or mice, possibly at the same time so that it might be
> >> usable for both at the same time, thereby saving a usb2 socket.
> >>
> >> Testing that theory got that idea squashed, so what exactly does
> >> that word unifying mean?
> >
> > AFAIK you need windows for running the Logitech application
> > that does the unifying. You can do it anywhere that you can
> > take your devices if you don't have windows. Yes, you save
> > a USB socket.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > David.
>
> Please take a look at the solaar package in Debian main. I've
> used it before. Works very well for connecting a Logitech
> wireless keyboard and wireless mouse to a single usb-connected
> receiver.

Thanks, Jape.

But doesn't appear to be available for wheezy. 

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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#187817

On 10/12/2017 11:50 AM, David Wright wrote:
> On Thu 12 Oct 2017 at 11:44:29 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
>> Greetings all;
>>
>> What does the word Unifying, as I see in dmesg for some, but not all, the 
>> the rx buttons for wireless keyboards/mice, actually mean?
>>
>> I took that to mean that it could work for both their (logitech's) 
>> keyboards or mice, possibly at the same time so that it might be usable 
>> for both at the same time, thereby saving a usb2 socket.
>>
>> Testing that theory got that idea squashed, so what exactly does that 
>> word unifying mean?
> 
> AFAIK you need windows for running the Logitech application
> that does the unifying. You can do it anywhere that you can
> take your devices if you don't have windows. Yes, you save
> a USB socket.
> 
> Cheers,
> David.
> 
> 

Please take a look at the solaar package in Debian main. I've
used it before. Works very well for connecting a Logitech
wireless keyboard and wireless mouse to a single usb-connected
receiver.

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