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| Started by | Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> |
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| First post | 2017-10-08 09:50 +0200 |
| Last post | 2017-10-08 16:00 +0200 |
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non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-08 09:50 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-10-08 11:00 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-08 15:50 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-10-08 16:30 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-08 17:30 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-10-08 18:10 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-08 18:30 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-08 20:20 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD bw <bwtnguy@yahoo.com> - 2017-10-08 23:10 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-10-08 23:40 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-08 23:40 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-10-09 00:30 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-09 13:40 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD rhkramer@gmail.com - 2017-10-09 16:50 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-10-09 19:00 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2017-10-09 20:10 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Daniel Keast <daniel@kea.st> - 2017-10-09 21:20 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-10-08 20:20 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-13 01:40 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-10-13 15:00 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-13 16:30 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Dejan Jocic <jodejka@gmail.com> - 2017-10-13 17:10 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-13 19:20 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2017-10-13 20:00 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-13 20:10 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2017-10-13 20:20 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-10-13 20:40 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-13 21:20 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-10-13 21:50 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-13 22:10 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-10-13 22:20 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-13 23:00 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-10-14 00:10 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-14 02:20 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-10-13 20:50 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-13 21:30 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-13 21:40 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-10-13 22:10 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-13 21:30 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-13 21:20 +0200
Re: Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Tom Dial <tddial@comcast.net> - 2017-10-13 23:50 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-10-13 21:10 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-13 21:40 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-10-13 22:50 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-13 23:10 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-10-13 23:30 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-10-17 12:50 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-10-09 01:40 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD bw <bwtnguy@yahoo.com> - 2017-10-08 18:10 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-08 18:40 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD bw <bwtnguy@yahoo.com> - 2017-10-08 11:20 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-10-08 11:40 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD bw <bwtnguy@yahoo.com> - 2017-10-08 12:30 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-10-08 11:30 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-10-08 16:00 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-08 16:10 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-10-08 17:10 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD bw <bwtnguy@yahoo.com> - 2017-10-08 17:50 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-10-08 22:30 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD bw <bwtnguy@yahoo.com> - 2017-10-08 23:00 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-10-09 01:30 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2017-10-09 11:30 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-10-09 02:30 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-10-09 07:50 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD anxiousmac@gmail.com - 2017-10-09 08:40 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-10-09 13:00 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-08 16:20 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-08 16:20 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-10-08 16:40 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-10-08 23:00 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-08 16:00 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-08 16:00 +0200
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| From | Tom Dial <tddial@comcast.net> |
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| Date | 2017-10-13 23:50 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <uAg0a-FN-29@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #187863 |
On 10/13/2017 09:02 AM, Dejan Jocic wrote: > On 13-10-17, Emanuel Berg wrote: >> Curt wrote: >> >>>> I managed to install it by unplugging the >>>> Ethernet cable, moving the computer to >>>> another place, and instead using >>>> a smartphone with USB-tethering to provide >>>> Internet. Now one wonders, what will happen >>>> when I plug in an Ethernet cable once more >>>> and expect Internet to work? Will it? >>> >>> For the answer to these questions and more, >>> be sure to tune in to the next installment of >>> "Manny Does Debian." >> >> :) >> >>> You must upgrade to the newest BIOS, because >>> the F.07< bioses, were known to have trouble >>> with ethernet drivers in Linux (and also in >>> Windows XP). After that you don't have to add >>> `noacpi` options on boot, as it is said in >>> some forums. >> >> Upgrade the BIOS? How do I do that? >> >> And how do I know if I have F.07 or less? >> >>> You do have an HP Compaq 6720s, right? >> >> Yes. >> >> -- >> underground experts united >> http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 >> > > I've checked it fast and it looks like that there is no BIOS updates to > download for Linux for your model. But there are some for Windows XP. > So, there are 2 possible solutions. One is to install M$ on some hard > and to download and install BIOS update with it. After that get rid of > that infection of operating system. Other solution would be to do > something like this: > > https://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Notebook-Operating-System-and-Recovery/How-to-update-BIOS-on-Linux/td-p/4869835 This procedure works fine on an HP EliteBook 8570w, and probably would work the same on a Compaq. Several of the comments there give informative explanatory material and describe the process pretty clearly. Probably it's a good idea to upgrade the BIOS anyhow, as later revisions have security fixes with some frequency. > > Never did it on HP, so not sure how well it would go. But I know that > method like that/similar to that was successful on Dell laptops before. > As for how to find BIOS version, you can use dmidecode command, with > root privs to find out. > > Hope that this helps. > Tom Dial
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| From | Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> |
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| Date | 2017-10-13 21:10 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <uAdvj-7Fq-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #187861 |
Emanuel Berg composed on 2017-10-13 16:26 (UTC+0200): > Curt wrote: >> You must upgrade to the newest BIOS, because >> the F.07< bioses, were known to have trouble >> with ethernet drivers in Linux (and also in >> Windows XP). After that you don't have to add >> `noacpi` options on boot, as it is said in >> some forums. > Upgrade the BIOS? How do I do that? https://support.hp.com/us-en/drivers/selfservice/swdetails/hp-compaq-6720s-notebook-pc/3442832/swItemId/ob-66967-1 > And how do I know if I have F.07 or less? >> You do have an HP Compaq 6720s, right? > Yes. -- "Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom. Whatever else you get, get wisdom." Proverbs 4:7 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
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| From | Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> |
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| Date | 2017-10-13 21:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <uAdYl-7U8-9@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #187871 |
Felix Miata wrote: > https://support.hp.com/us-en/drivers/selfservice/swdetails/hp-compaq-6720s-notebook-pc/3442832/swItemId/ob-66967-1 An .exe file, is this the one you'd run after first installing Windows XP? Then run it, and reinstall Debian? They mention "RedFlag Linux", which is unknown to me, however this doesn't sound like a distro issue so perhaps it can be made to work? RedFlag is a Chinese distro by the way, which isn't a Debian fork for a change but based on Red Hat [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Flag_Linux -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573
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| From | Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> |
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| Date | 2017-10-13 22:50 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <uAf47-5m-11@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #187877 |
Emanuel Berg composed on 2017-10-13 21:20 (UTC+0200): > Felix Miata wrote: >> https://support.hp.com/us-en/drivers/selfservice/swdetails/hp-compaq-6720s-notebook-pc/3442832/swItemId/ob-66967-1 > An .exe file, is this the one you'd run after > first installing Windows XP? Yes. > Then run it, No. If possible, I'd follow the instructions that URL directs you to, to use HP System Software Manager (SSM). > and > reinstall Debian? Reinstalling Debian would be a pointless extra step. What I would do is remove the HD currently installed, temporarily install some other HD, install Windows on that, install the BIOS update, then reinstall the original HD that has Debian already installed. Knowing how HP can make using FOSS software so difficult, I probably never would have bought an HP in the first place, unless pre-owned, for an extremely low price, or for free. The only HP I own was free. Upgrading its BIOS was similarly difficult, but I did do it, to solve a problem similar to yours (bad ACPI), using instructions not provided by HP that included using an extra HD. > They mention "RedFlag Linux", which is unknown > to me, however this doesn't sound like a distro > issue so perhaps it can be made to work? > RedFlag is a Chinese distro by the way, which > isn't a Debian fork for a change but based on > Red Hat [1]. > > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Flag_Linux -- "Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom. Whatever else you get, get wisdom." Proverbs 4:7 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
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| From | Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> |
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| Date | 2017-10-13 23:10 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <uAfnr-tm-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #187882 |
Felix Miata wrote: > What I would do is remove the HD currently > installed, temporarily install some other HD, > install Windows on that, install the BIOS > update, then reinstall the original HD that > has Debian already installed. Why not install XP, apply the upgrade, and install Debian? Isn't that less work than the separate HD idea? > Knowing how HP can make using FOSS software > so difficult, I probably never would have > bought an HP in the first place, unless > pre-owned, for an extremely low price, or for > free. The only HP I own was free. I got the laptop from a friend who wanted Linux on it. -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573
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| From | Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> |
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| Date | 2017-10-13 23:30 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <uAfGO-zt-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #187884 |
Emanuel Berg composed on 2017-10-13 22:56 (UTC+0200): > Felix Miata wrote: >> What I would do is remove the HD currently >> installed, temporarily install some other HD, >> install Windows on that, install the BIOS >> update, then reinstall the original HD that >> has Debian already installed. > Why not install XP, apply the upgrade, and > install Debian? Isn't that less work than the > separate HD idea? To me it's less work to not have an unsupported and unused operating system wasting space otherwise available for FOSS. Windows is required exclusively for getting that BIOS update installed. Once a BIOS is upgraded, it stays upgraded. I generally use the very same old 40GB SATA HD for most BIOS updates, by copying downloaded update installer and image files to its bootable DOS partition, and booting DOS to install the update. >> Knowing how HP can make using FOSS software >> so difficult, I probably never would have >> bought an HP in the first place, unless >> pre-owned, for an extremely low price, or for >> free. The only HP I own was free. > I got the laptop from a friend who wanted Linux > on it. Sometimes free isn't really. -- "Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom. Whatever else you get, get wisdom." Proverbs 4:7 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
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| From | Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-10-17 12:50 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <uBxBE-Z8-15@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #187884 |
On 10/13/2017 01:56 PM, Emanuel Berg wrote: > Felix Miata wrote: > >> What I would do is remove the HD currently >> installed, temporarily install some other HD, >> install Windows on that, install the BIOS >> update, then reinstall the original HD that >> has Debian already installed. > > Why not install XP, apply the upgrade, and > install Debian? Isn't that less work than the > separate HD idea? There is a Windows XP Live iso(Hiren's Boot CD) on the net with all the tools one would need to upgrade the bios and many other things and it's free and neutered too. -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Buster - KDE Plasma 5.8.7 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda7 Registered Linux User #380263
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| From | Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-10-09 01:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <uytkR-3LR-13@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #187745 |
On 10/08/2017 09:07 AM, Brian wrote: > On Sun 08 Oct 2017 at 17:28:31 +0200, Emanuel Berg wrote: > >> Brian wrote: >> >>> Install using the ethernet connection on the >>> machine. Then sort out the WiFi. >> >> Ethernet doesn't work either! After the >> firmware issue is brought up, the DHCP autoconf >> fails. You are saying this isn't related to the >> missing firmware? >> >> If the firmware is only for WiFi, then it is >> a whole other issue because I don't care >> about WiFi! >> >> Why doesn't Ethernet (DHCP autoconf) work? > > I erroneously assumed you were installing over wireless because > firmware for a wireless chip was asked for. Very silly of me. I have a feeling most of us had the same assumption. Why the installer did not configure a wired connection is beyond me, I'm out.. -- Jimmy Johnson Ubuntu 16.04 LTS - KDE Plasma 5.8.7 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda5 Registered Linux User #380263
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| From | bw <bwtnguy@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2017-10-08 18:10 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <uymjo-7Lo-17@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #187743 |
On Sun, 8 Oct 2017, Emanuel Berg wrote: > If the firmware is only for WiFi, then it is > a whole other issue because I don't care > about WiFi! > > Why doesn't Ethernet (DHCP autoconf) work? > Hey Emanuel, I know it's frustrating. But if you slow down a little and do some research it will make things a lot easier. Like identifying your hardware and such in particular is a real good idea. You're going to have to do it probably one way or the other, and it makes sense to do it first. https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual The install manual has some good info, and also sometimes I search for terms like "debian on Compaq 6720s" and look for info that way. If you let people know what the hardware device is, and not just the computer model, it will really help. Also I did a quick search for Compaq 6720s and it the links I found don;t mention a broadcom device, it should have an intel wireless setup? http://www.notebookreview.com/notebookreview/hp-compaq-6720s-user-review/specs/
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| From | Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> |
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| Date | 2017-10-08 18:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <uymMp-7UX-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #187746 |
bw wrote: > Also I did a quick search for Compaq 6720s > and it the links I found don;t mention > a broadcom device, it should have an intel > wireless setup? ... okay? Actually I don't care about wireless stuff, I always considered it unreliable and error-prone and it seems at least in this case I was correct :) -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573
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| From | bw <bwtnguy@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2017-10-08 11:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <uyfUB-3uU-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #187715 |
On Sun, 8 Oct 2017, Emanuel Berg wrote: > says the network needs nonfree firmware, namely > > b43/ucode13.fw > b43-open/ucode13.fw > > Despite searching explicitly on the CD the > assessment stands. > > After that, the network > auto-config/DHCP/connect fail. > > What's going on? Is that firmware not included > even in the firmware edition of Debian? > > TIA > > -- Yes, that isn't included. The firmware must be extracted from the proprietary (windows?) driver from Broadcom. It's possibly a legal hurdle set up by the manufacturer? There is a good wiki page on these devices here. https://wiki.debian.org/bcm43xx
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| From | <tomas@tuxteam.de> |
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| Date | 2017-10-08 11:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <uygdY-3BT-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #187719 |
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Oct 08, 2017 at 05:17:44AM -0400, bw wrote: [...] > Yes, that isn't included. The firmware must be extracted from the > proprietary (windows?) driver from Broadcom. It's possibly a legal hurdle > set up by the manufacturer? Yeah. If anyone asks again why "free as in beer" isn't good, there you have it. Cheers - -- tomás -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlnZ8QsACgkQBcgs9XrR2kZGaACdGbHkUrDQYo0rvOtGdZypGf3Y U+4Ani607jPLgRGKvRntoYTt5dqhyKfL =G1rK -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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| From | bw <bwtnguy@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2017-10-08 12:30 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <uyh0l-49v-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #187721 |
On Sun, 8 Oct 2017, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Sun, Oct 08, 2017 at 05:17:44AM -0400, bw wrote: > > [...] > > > Yes, that isn't included. The firmware must be extracted from the > > proprietary (windows?) driver from Broadcom. It's possibly a legal hurdle > > set up by the manufacturer? > > Yeah. If anyone asks again why "free as in beer" isn't good, there you > have it. > I've been using the LP-PHY version for a few years now, and it works well with the firmware. The firmware-installer package depends on an extraction tool b43-fwcutter, and the docs indicate that it might be able to do the extraction offline if the right file was available. I may be wrong about needing the windows driver. The man page shows an example bcmwl5.sys file to be 'cut' but seems like it only supports wl_*.o files now. > $ b43-fwcutter -l > b43-fwcutter version 019 > Extracting firmware is possible from these binary driver files. > Please read http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#devicefirmware > <driver> <filename> <microcode> <MD5 checksum> > b43legacy wl_apsta.o > <etc...> It's all very mysterious, especially when people assume hardware should 'just work' with very little input or setup. I can imagine a copyright line that says something like, "...you may redistribute this software only in whole, and may not distribute only the portion required to make the device work the way you want."
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| From | Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-10-08 11:30 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <uyg4i-3yM-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #187715 |
On 10/08/2017 12:46 AM, Emanuel Berg wrote: > First I downloaded this ISO: > > https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/i386/iso-cd/firmware-9.2.0-i386-netinst.iso > > Then I burned it onto a CD-R, and booted into > the installer. > > The computer is a HP Compaq 6720s laptop. > > However the installer doesn't get far before it > says the network needs nonfree firmware, namely > > b43/ucode13.fw > b43-open/ucode13.fw > > Despite searching explicitly on the CD the > assessment stands. > > After that, the network > auto-config/DHCP/connect fail. > > What's going on? Is that firmware not included > even in the firmware edition of Debian? Is this what you are looking for: https://packages.debian.org/stretch/firmware-b43-installer -- Jimmy Johnson Ubuntu 16.04 LTS - KDE Plasma 5.8.7 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda5 Registered Linux User #380263
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| From | Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-10-08 16:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <uykhA-6hh-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #187720 |
On 10/08/2017 06:48 AM, Emanuel Berg wrote: > Jimmy Johnson wrote: > >> Is this what you are looking for: >> https://packages.debian.org/stretch/firmware-b43-installer > > Can I download that package with another > computer, install Debian without network > support, bring the installer over, and manually > install it without Internet? > > If so, how? You will need to download the depends too and then cd to the directory that holds the files and #dpkg -i (the package name) to install. -- Jimmy Johnson Ubuntu 16.04 LTS - KDE Plasma 5.8.7 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda5 Registered Linux User #380263
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| From | Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> |
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| Date | 2017-10-08 16:10 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <uykrg-6zP-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #187731 |
Jimmy Johnson wrote: > You will need to download the depends too and > then cd to the directory that holds the files > and #dpkg -i (the package name) to install. OK. How should the depends be organized? I.e., the dir structure? -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573
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| From | Curt <curty@free.fr> |
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| Date | 2017-10-08 17:10 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <uylnj-7aO-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #187735 |
On 2017-10-08, Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> wrote: > Jimmy Johnson wrote: > >> You will need to download the depends too and >> then cd to the directory that holds the files >> and #dpkg -i (the package name) to install. > > OK. How should the depends be organized? I.e., > the dir structure? > I opened up the iso you downloaded and it seems the installer already contains all the dependencies, because I see b43-fwcutter, bzip2, and, of course, wget, which are the only three dependencies for the firmware-b43-installer package, if that is indeed the one you need. -- "A simpering Bambi narcissist and a thieving, fanatical Albanian dwarf." Christopher Hitchens, commenting shortly after the nearly concurrent deaths of Lady Diana and Mother Theresa.
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| From | bw <bwtnguy@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2017-10-08 17:50 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <uym01-7no-7@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #187741 |
On Sun, 8 Oct 2017, Curt wrote: > On 2017-10-08, Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> wrote: > > Jimmy Johnson wrote: > > > >> You will need to download the depends too and > >> then cd to the directory that holds the files > >> and #dpkg -i (the package name) to install. > > > > OK. How should the depends be organized? I.e., > > the dir structure? > > > > I opened up the iso you downloaded and it seems the installer already > contains all the dependencies, because I see b43-fwcutter, bzip2, and, > of course, wget, which are the only three dependencies for the > firmware-b43-installer package, if that is indeed the one you need. > > -- > "A simpering Bambi narcissist and a thieving, fanatical Albanian dwarf." > Christopher Hitchens, commenting shortly after the nearly concurrent deaths > of Lady Diana and Mother Theresa. > > That's very interesting, all that seems to be missing is the huge 14mb or so tar that has the right file to rip. The way I understand it, the firmware-b43-installer snags it from http://www.lwfinger.com/b43-firmware and untars it, then calls the b43-fwcutter as some kind of post-inst script? It leaves little or no trace of itself after installation, only some docs and a lintian. Oddly enough, there's a tiny 500K tar with some firmware in the same place, might be an old ver? http://www.lwfinger.com/b43-firmware/b43fw_508.tar.gz Anyway, there are two problems, how to get the firmware extracted, and how to get the installer to use it.
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| From | Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-10-08 22:30 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <uyqmZ-1Ke-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #187735 |
On 10/08/2017 07:07 AM, Emanuel Berg wrote: > Jimmy Johnson wrote: > >> You will need to download the depends too and >> then cd to the directory that holds the files >> and #dpkg -i (the package name) to install. > > OK. How should the depends be organized? I.e., > the dir structure? You should only need to install the one package and dpkg will pull in the depends and is why they need to be in the same directory. -- Jimmy Johnson Ubuntu 16.04 LTS - KDE Plasma 5.8.7 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda5 Registered Linux User #380263
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| From | bw <bwtnguy@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2017-10-08 23:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <uyqQ1-1TQ-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #187752 |
On Sun, 8 Oct 2017, Jimmy Johnson wrote: > On 10/08/2017 07:07 AM, Emanuel Berg wrote: > > Jimmy Johnson wrote: > > > > > You will need to download the depends too and > > > then cd to the directory that holds the files > > > and #dpkg -i (the package name) to install. > > > > OK. How should the depends be organized? I.e., > > the dir structure? > > You should only need to install the one package and dpkg will pull in the > depends and is why they need to be in the same directory. > -- > Jimmy Johnson > > Ubuntu 16.04 LTS - KDE Plasma 5.8.7 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda5 > Registered Linux User #380263 > > does not work that way here? # ls apt-offline_1.7.2_all.deb python-magic_5.30-1+deb9u1_all.deb # dpkg -i apt-offline_1.7.2_all.deb Selecting previously unselected package apt-offline. (Reading database ... 39715 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to unpack apt-offline_1.7.2_all.deb ... Unpacking apt-offline (1.7.2) ... dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of apt-offline: apt-offline depends on python-magic; however: Package python-magic is not installed. dpkg: error processing package apt-offline (--install): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Processing triggers for man-db (2.7.6.1-2) ... Errors were encountered while processing: apt-offline
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