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non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD

Started byEmanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com>
First post2017-10-08 09:50 +0200
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  non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-08 09:50 +0200
    Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-10-08 11:00 +0200
      Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-08 15:50 +0200
        Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-10-08 16:30 +0200
          Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-08 17:30 +0200
            Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-10-08 18:10 +0200
              Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-08 18:30 +0200
                Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-08 20:20 +0200
                  Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD bw <bwtnguy@yahoo.com> - 2017-10-08 23:10 +0200
                    Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-10-08 23:40 +0200
                      Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-08 23:40 +0200
                        Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-10-09 00:30 +0200
                          Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-09 13:40 +0200
                    Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD rhkramer@gmail.com - 2017-10-09 16:50 +0200
                      Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-10-09 19:00 +0200
                        Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2017-10-09 20:10 +0200
                        Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Daniel Keast <daniel@kea.st> - 2017-10-09 21:20 +0200
                Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-10-08 20:20 +0200
                  Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-13 01:40 +0200
                    Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-10-13 15:00 +0200
                      Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-13 16:30 +0200
                        Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Dejan Jocic <jodejka@gmail.com> - 2017-10-13 17:10 +0200
                          Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-13 19:20 +0200
                            Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2017-10-13 20:00 +0200
                              Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-13 20:10 +0200
                                Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2017-10-13 20:20 +0200
                                  Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-10-13 20:40 +0200
                                    Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-13 21:20 +0200
                                      Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-10-13 21:50 +0200
                                        Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-13 22:10 +0200
                                          Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-10-13 22:20 +0200
                                            Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-13 23:00 +0200
                                          Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-10-14 00:10 +0200
                                            Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-14 02:20 +0200
                                  Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-10-13 20:50 +0200
                                    Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-13 21:30 +0200
                                      Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-13 21:40 +0200
                                        Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-10-13 22:10 +0200
                                    Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-13 21:30 +0200
                                  Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-13 21:20 +0200
                          Re: Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Tom Dial <tddial@comcast.net> - 2017-10-13 23:50 +0200
                        Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-10-13 21:10 +0200
                          Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-13 21:40 +0200
                            Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-10-13 22:50 +0200
                              Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-13 23:10 +0200
                                Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-10-13 23:30 +0200
                                Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-10-17 12:50 +0200
              Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-10-09 01:40 +0200
            Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD bw <bwtnguy@yahoo.com> - 2017-10-08 18:10 +0200
              Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-08 18:40 +0200
    Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD bw <bwtnguy@yahoo.com> - 2017-10-08 11:20 +0200
      Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-10-08 11:40 +0200
        Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD bw <bwtnguy@yahoo.com> - 2017-10-08 12:30 +0200
    Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-10-08 11:30 +0200
      Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-10-08 16:00 +0200
        Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-08 16:10 +0200
          Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-10-08 17:10 +0200
            Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD bw <bwtnguy@yahoo.com> - 2017-10-08 17:50 +0200
          Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-10-08 22:30 +0200
            Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD bw <bwtnguy@yahoo.com> - 2017-10-08 23:00 +0200
              Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-10-09 01:30 +0200
              Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2017-10-09 11:30 +0200
            Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-10-09 02:30 +0200
              Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-10-09 07:50 +0200
                Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD anxiousmac@gmail.com - 2017-10-09 08:40 +0200
                  Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-10-09 13:00 +0200
        Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-08 16:20 +0200
        Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-08 16:20 +0200
          Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-10-08 16:40 +0200
          Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-10-08 23:00 +0200
      Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-08 16:00 +0200
      Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-08 16:00 +0200

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#187715 — non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD

FromEmanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com>
Date2017-10-08 09:50 +0200
Subjectnon-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD
Message-ID<uyevv-2ll-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
First I downloaded this ISO:

    https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/i386/iso-cd/firmware-9.2.0-i386-netinst.iso

Then I burned it onto a CD-R, and booted into
the installer.

The computer is a HP Compaq 6720s laptop.

However the installer doesn't get far before it
says the network needs nonfree firmware, namely

    b43/ucode13.fw
    b43-open/ucode13.fw

Despite searching explicitly on the CD the
assessment stands.

After that, the network
auto-config/DHCP/connect fail.

What's going on? Is that firmware not included
even in the firmware edition of Debian?

TIA 

-- 
underground experts united
http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573

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#187718

FromBrian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date2017-10-08 11:00 +0200
Message-ID<uyfBg-37F-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#187715
On Sun 08 Oct 2017 at 09:46:19 +0200, Emanuel Berg wrote:

> First I downloaded this ISO:
> 
>     https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/i386/iso-cd/firmware-9.2.0-i386-netinst.iso
> 
> Then I burned it onto a CD-R, and booted into
> the installer.
> 
> The computer is a HP Compaq 6720s laptop.
> 
> However the installer doesn't get far before it
> says the network needs nonfree firmware, namely
> 
>     b43/ucode13.fw
>     b43-open/ucode13.fw
> 
> Despite searching explicitly on the CD the
> assessment stands.
> 
> After that, the network
> auto-config/DHCP/connect fail.
> 
> What's going on? Is that firmware not included
> even in the firmware edition of Debian?

https://wiki.debian.org/bcm43xx

  > Firmware is not packaged by the Debian Project. It must be
  > downloaded and extracted, 

-- 
Brian.

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#187730

FromEmanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com>
Date2017-10-08 15:50 +0200
Message-ID<uyk7T-6cx-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#187718
Brian wrote:

> https://wiki.debian.org/bcm43xx

Thanks, however the installation guide says use
the Internet to get it, and the reason that
isn't working is the missing firmware!

-- 
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http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573

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#187738

FromBrian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date2017-10-08 16:30 +0200
Message-ID<uykKB-6H1-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#187730
On Sun 08 Oct 2017 at 15:45:40 +0200, Emanuel Berg wrote:

> Brian wrote:
> 
> > https://wiki.debian.org/bcm43xx
> 
> Thanks, however the installation guide says use
> the Internet to get it, and the reason that
> isn't working is the missing firmware!

Install using the ethernet connection on the machine. Then sort out the
WiFi.

-- 
Brian.

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#187743

FromEmanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com>
Date2017-10-08 17:30 +0200
Message-ID<uylGF-7h7-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#187738
Brian wrote:

> Install using the ethernet connection on the
> machine. Then sort out the WiFi.

Ethernet doesn't work either! After the
firmware issue is brought up, the DHCP autoconf
fails. You are saying this isn't related to the
missing firmware?

If the firmware is only for WiFi, then it is
a whole other issue because I don't care
about WiFi!

Why doesn't Ethernet (DHCP autoconf) work?

-- 
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http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573

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#187745

FromBrian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date2017-10-08 18:10 +0200
Message-ID<uymjn-7Lo-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#187743
On Sun 08 Oct 2017 at 17:28:31 +0200, Emanuel Berg wrote:

> Brian wrote:
> 
> > Install using the ethernet connection on the
> > machine. Then sort out the WiFi.
> 
> Ethernet doesn't work either! After the
> firmware issue is brought up, the DHCP autoconf
> fails. You are saying this isn't related to the
> missing firmware?
> 
> If the firmware is only for WiFi, then it is
> a whole other issue because I don't care
> about WiFi!
> 
> Why doesn't Ethernet (DHCP autoconf) work?

I erroneously assumed you were installing over wireless because
firmware for a wireless chip was asked for. Very silly of me. The
firmware question would still be asked if you were installing with
a cabled connection. (Were you?).

If "yes", the failure to get an IP address via DHCP has nothing to
do with missing wireless chip firmware.

-- 
Brian.

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#187747

FromEmanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com>
Date2017-10-08 18:30 +0200
Message-ID<uymCK-7RR-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#187745
Brian wrote:

> If "yes", the failure to get an IP address
> via DHCP has nothing to do with missing
> wireless chip firmware.

OK!

So any theories as to why that happens?!

I have another Debian computer there which
doesn't have an Ethernet problem save for I run
'dhclient eth0' every time the computer is
rebooted to get Internet back up.

It is the same connection, even the same
cable :)

-- 
underground experts united
http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573

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#187749

FromEmanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com>
Date2017-10-08 20:20 +0200
Message-ID<uyolb-wu-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#187747
Brian wrote:

> In line with bw's suggestion you can now
> provide some hard information to base
> theories and solutions on.
>
> We surmise your computer is connected to
> a router by an ethernet cable. Boot the
> installer in expert mode and go through the
> first two screens. Say "no" to providing
> firmware (it all seems wireless related and
> you have no desire for wireless).
> Eventually you will be asked for what
> interface to use. We want to know everything
> you see on the screen at that point.
>
> Choose an interface and move on. Is this
> where it fails? Let us know what you see.
> Stop, switch to console 2 and do 'more
> /var/log/syslog'. Anything towards the end of
> that log?

OK thanks a lot!

-- 
underground experts united
http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573

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#187756

Frombw <bwtnguy@yahoo.com>
Date2017-10-08 23:10 +0200
Message-ID<uyqZI-2cb-19@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#187749

On Sun, 8 Oct 2017, Emanuel Berg wrote:

> Actually I don't care about wireless stuff, I always considered it 
> unreliable and error-prone and it seems at least in this case I was 
> correct :)

I know there is a legacy of this kind of thinking, but really Linux has 
come a LONG way in a very short time.  Right now millions, if not tens (or 
hundreds?) of millions of people are using wireless reliably and without 
error.  In any case, I hope you'll stick with the install and get the 
issue resolved and post a solution.

Good Luck! 

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#187757

FromBrian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date2017-10-08 23:40 +0200
Message-ID<uyrsK-2mn-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#187756
On Sun 08 Oct 2017 at 17:07:13 -0400, bw wrote:

> On Sun, 8 Oct 2017, Emanuel Berg wrote:
> 
> > Actually I don't care about wireless stuff, I always considered it 
> > unreliable and error-prone and it seems at least in this case I was 
> > correct :)
> 
> I know there is a legacy of this kind of thinking, but really Linux has 
> come a LONG way in a very short time.  Right now millions, if not tens (or 
> hundreds?) of millions of people are using wireless reliably and without 
> error.  In any case, I hope you'll stick with the install and get the 
> issue resolved and post a solution.

You are very solicitous. He was not correct. Whatever problem he had had
nothing to do with wireless. Whatever makes you think it did?

As for following up with a solution - don't keep your hopes high.

-- 
Brian.

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#187758

FromEmanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com>
Date2017-10-08 23:40 +0200
Message-ID<uyrsK-2mn-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#187757
Brian wrote:

> As for following up with a solution - don't
> keep your hopes high.

?

-- 
underground experts united
http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573

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#187759

FromBrian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date2017-10-09 00:30 +0200
Message-ID<uysf7-33c-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#187758
On Sun 08 Oct 2017 at 23:34:55 +0200, Emanuel Berg wrote:

> Brian wrote:
> 
> > As for following up with a solution - don't
> > keep your hopes high.
> 
> ?

Two bites of the cherry.

https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/08/msg00457.html

-- 
Brian.

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#187774

FromEmanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com>
Date2017-10-09 13:40 +0200
Message-ID<uyEzD-2RS-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#187759
Brian wrote:

> Two bites of the cherry.

I actually did have a strange feeling I had
been thru all this before - but I thought it
was in a previous life... Anyway that time
I don't think I ever got past the whole WiFi
misconception, so it looks more hopeful this
time, God willing.

-- 
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http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573

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#187777

Fromrhkramer@gmail.com
Date2017-10-09 16:50 +0200
Message-ID<uyHxv-4Pe-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#187756
On Sunday, October 08, 2017 05:07:13 PM bw wrote:
> On Sun, 8 Oct 2017, Emanuel Berg wrote:
> > Actually I don't care about wireless stuff, I always considered it
> > unreliable and error-prone and it seems at least in this case I was
> > correct :)
> 
> I know there is a legacy of this kind of thinking, but really Linux has
> come a LONG way in a very short time.  Right now millions, if not tens (or
> hundreds?) of millions of people are using wireless reliably and without
> error.  In any case, I hope you'll stick with the install and get the
> issue resolved and post a solution.

Well, just the other thing that affects my thinking (iirc, this is the first 
time I chimed in on this thread)--I would just as soon have fewer 
electromagnetic waves passing through (or into) my body.

IIRC, the higher the frequency, the higher the energy in those waves--thus the 
more likely to have an effect.

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#187782

FromCurt <curty@free.fr>
Date2017-10-09 19:00 +0200
Message-ID<uyJzj-63h-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#187777
On 2017-10-09, rhkramer@gmail.com <rhkramer@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sunday, October 08, 2017 05:07:13 PM bw wrote:
>> On Sun, 8 Oct 2017, Emanuel Berg wrote:
>> > Actually I don't care about wireless stuff, I always considered it
>> > unreliable and error-prone and it seems at least in this case I was
>> > correct :)
>> 
>> I know there is a legacy of this kind of thinking, but really Linux has
>> come a LONG way in a very short time.  Right now millions, if not tens (or
>> hundreds?) of millions of people are using wireless reliably and without
>> error.  In any case, I hope you'll stick with the install and get the
>> issue resolved and post a solution.
>
> Well, just the other thing that affects my thinking (iirc, this is the first 
> time I chimed in on this thread)--I would just as soon have fewer 
> electromagnetic waves passing through (or into) my body.

Do as I do, RH: avoid space travel when at all possible (ionizing
variety of EM waves). I know, I know--you really don't feel like
canceling those Mars vacation plans, but there you go.

Here's a balanced article on the subject (with a particular focus on the
brain, my second favorite organ):

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/could-certain-frequencies/

> IIRC, the higher the frequency, the higher the energy in those waves--thus the 
> more likely to have an effect.
>
>


-- 
"A simpering Bambi narcissist and a thieving, fanatical Albanian dwarf."
Christopher Hitchens, commenting shortly after the nearly concurrent deaths 
of Lady Diana and Mother Theresa.

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#187784

FromJohn Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com>
Date2017-10-09 20:10 +0200
Message-ID<uyKF3-74D-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#187782
 rhkramer writes:
> IIRC, the higher the frequency, the higher the energy in those
> waves--thus the more likely to have an effect.

I take it that you live in total darkness, then.  But wait!  Everything
around you is emitting infrared, at *much* higher frequencies than any
radio! Eek!
-- 
John Hasler 
jhasler@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA

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#187786

FromDaniel Keast <daniel@kea.st>
Date2017-10-09 21:20 +0200
Message-ID<uyLKN-7SM-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#187782

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On Mon, Oct 09, 2017 at 04:58:43PM +0000, Curt wrote:
> On 2017-10-09, rhkramer@gmail.com <rhkramer@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Sunday, October 08, 2017 05:07:13 PM bw wrote:
> >> On Sun, 8 Oct 2017, Emanuel Berg wrote:
> >> > Actually I don't care about wireless stuff, I always considered it
> >> > unreliable and error-prone and it seems at least in this case I was
> >> > correct :)
> >> 
> >> I know there is a legacy of this kind of thinking, but really Linux has
> >> come a LONG way in a very short time.  Right now millions, if not tens (or
> >> hundreds?) of millions of people are using wireless reliably and without
> >> error.  In any case, I hope you'll stick with the install and get the
> >> issue resolved and post a solution.
> >
> > Well, just the other thing that affects my thinking (iirc, this is the first 
> > time I chimed in on this thread)--I would just as soon have fewer 
> > electromagnetic waves passing through (or into) my body.
> 
> Do as I do, RH: avoid space travel when at all possible (ionizing
> variety of EM waves). I know, I know--you really don't feel like
> canceling those Mars vacation plans, but there you go.
> 
> Here's a balanced article on the subject (with a particular focus on the
> brain, my second favorite organ):
> 
> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/could-certain-frequencies/

If mobile phones caused brain cancer, wouldn't brain cancer rantes have been
skyrocketing over the last couple of decades? Correlation doesn't imply
causation, but a lack of correlation surely implies a lack of causation.

The effects on concentration seem much mo... what was I saying again?

> > IIRC, the higher the frequency, the higher the energy in those waves--thus the 
> > more likely to have an effect.
> >
> >
> 
> 
> -- 
> "A simpering Bambi narcissist and a thieving, fanatical Albanian dwarf."
> Christopher Hitchens, commenting shortly after the nearly concurrent deaths 
> of Lady Diana and Mother Theresa.
> 

-- 
Daniel Keast,
Hatherleigh, UK

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#187750

FromBrian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Date2017-10-08 20:20 +0200
Message-ID<uyolb-wu-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#187747
On Sun 08 Oct 2017 at 18:29:04 +0200, Emanuel Berg wrote:

> Brian wrote:
> 
> > If "yes", the failure to get an IP address
> > via DHCP has nothing to do with missing
> > wireless chip firmware.
> 
> OK!
> 
> So any theories as to why that happens?!
> 
> I have another Debian computer there which
> doesn't have an Ethernet problem save for I run
> 'dhclient eth0' every time the computer is
> rebooted to get Internet back up.
> 
> It is the same connection, even the same
> cable :)

In line with bw's suggestion you can now provide some hard information
to base theories and solutions on.

We surmise your computer is connected to a router by an ethernet cable.
Boot the installer in expert mode and go through the first two screens.
Say "no" to providing firmware (it all seems wireless related and you
have no desire for wireless). Eventually you will be asked for what
interface to use. We want to know everything you see on the screen at
that point.

Choose an interface and move on. Is this where it fails? Let us know
what you see. Stop, switch to console 2 and do 'more /var/log/syslog'.
Anything towards the end of that log?

-- 
Brian.

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#187830

FromEmanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com>
Date2017-10-13 01:40 +0200
Message-ID<uzVf4-4oh-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#187750
Brian wrote:

> In line with bw's suggestion you can now
> provide some hard information to base
> theories and solutions on.
>
> We surmise your computer is connected to
> a router by an ethernet cable. Boot the
> installer in expert mode and go through the
> first two screens. Say "no" to providing
> firmware (it all seems wireless related and
> you have no desire for wireless).
> Eventually you will be asked for what
> interface to use. We want to know everything
> you see on the screen at that point.
>
> Choose an interface and move on. Is this
> where it fails? Let us know what you see.
> Stop, switch to console 2 and do 'more
> /var/log/syslog'. Anything towards the end of
> that log?

I managed to install it by unplugging the
Ethernet cable, moving the computer to another
place, and instead using a smartphone with
USB-tethering to provide Internet. Now one
wonders, what will happen when I plug in an
Ethernet cable once more and expect Internet
to work? Will it?

-- 
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http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573

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#187856

FromCurt <curty@free.fr>
Date2017-10-13 15:00 +0200
Message-ID<uA7Jg-3Wd-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#187830
On 2017-10-12, Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> wrote:
> Brian wrote:
>>
>> Choose an interface and move on. Is this
>> where it fails? Let us know what you see.
>> Stop, switch to console 2 and do 'more
>> /var/log/syslog'. Anything towards the end of
>> that log?
>
> I managed to install it by unplugging the
> Ethernet cable, moving the computer to another
> place, and instead using a smartphone with
> USB-tethering to provide Internet. Now one
> wonders, what will happen when I plug in an
> Ethernet cable once more and expect Internet
> to work? Will it?
>

For the answer to these questions and more, be sure to tune in to the
next installment of "Manny Does Debian."

But all seriousness aside I don't see many people having trouble with
the network card on this oldish laptop (82562GT 10/100 Network
Connection (driver:e1000)?

Here 

http://www.linlap.com/hp-compaq_6720s

it says: 

 Ethernet   Yes   With current BIOS works out of the box, else see Notes

The notes say:

 Ethernet

  You must upgrade to the newest BIOS, because the F.07< bioses, were
  known to have trouble with ethernet drivers in Linux (and also in
  Windows XP). After that you don't have to add `noacpi` options on boot,
  as it is said in some forums.

You do have an HP Compaq 6720s, right?

At any rate, good luck.

-- 
"A simpering Bambi narcissist and a thieving, fanatical Albanian dwarf."
Christopher Hitchens, commenting shortly after the nearly concurrent deaths 
of Lady Diana and Mother Theresa.

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