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| Started by | Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> |
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| First post | 2017-10-08 09:50 +0200 |
| Last post | 2017-10-08 16:00 +0200 |
| Articles | 12 on this page of 72 — 17 participants |
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non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-08 09:50 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-10-08 11:00 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-08 15:50 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-10-08 16:30 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-08 17:30 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-10-08 18:10 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-08 18:30 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-08 20:20 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD bw <bwtnguy@yahoo.com> - 2017-10-08 23:10 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-10-08 23:40 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-08 23:40 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-10-09 00:30 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-09 13:40 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD rhkramer@gmail.com - 2017-10-09 16:50 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-10-09 19:00 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2017-10-09 20:10 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Daniel Keast <daniel@kea.st> - 2017-10-09 21:20 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-10-08 20:20 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-13 01:40 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-10-13 15:00 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-13 16:30 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Dejan Jocic <jodejka@gmail.com> - 2017-10-13 17:10 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-13 19:20 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2017-10-13 20:00 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-13 20:10 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2017-10-13 20:20 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-10-13 20:40 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-13 21:20 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-10-13 21:50 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-13 22:10 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-10-13 22:20 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-13 23:00 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-10-14 00:10 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-14 02:20 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-10-13 20:50 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-13 21:30 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-13 21:40 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-10-13 22:10 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-13 21:30 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-13 21:20 +0200
Re: Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Tom Dial <tddial@comcast.net> - 2017-10-13 23:50 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-10-13 21:10 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-13 21:40 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-10-13 22:50 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-13 23:10 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-10-13 23:30 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-10-17 12:50 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-10-09 01:40 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD bw <bwtnguy@yahoo.com> - 2017-10-08 18:10 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-08 18:40 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD bw <bwtnguy@yahoo.com> - 2017-10-08 11:20 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-10-08 11:40 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD bw <bwtnguy@yahoo.com> - 2017-10-08 12:30 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-10-08 11:30 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-10-08 16:00 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-08 16:10 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-10-08 17:10 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD bw <bwtnguy@yahoo.com> - 2017-10-08 17:50 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-10-08 22:30 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD bw <bwtnguy@yahoo.com> - 2017-10-08 23:00 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-10-09 01:30 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2017-10-09 11:30 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-10-09 02:30 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-10-09 07:50 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD anxiousmac@gmail.com - 2017-10-09 08:40 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-10-09 13:00 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-08 16:20 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-08 16:20 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-10-08 16:40 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-10-08 23:00 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-08 16:00 +0200
Re: non-free firmware not found despite unofficial CD Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-10-08 16:00 +0200
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| From | Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-10-09 01:30 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <uytbb-3IM-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #187754 |
On 10/08/2017 01:57 PM, bw wrote: > > > On Sun, 8 Oct 2017, Jimmy Johnson wrote: > >> On 10/08/2017 07:07 AM, Emanuel Berg wrote: >>> Jimmy Johnson wrote: >>> >>>> You will need to download the depends too and >>>> then cd to the directory that holds the files >>>> and #dpkg -i (the package name) to install. >>> >>> OK. How should the depends be organized? I.e., >>> the dir structure? >> >> You should only need to install the one package and dpkg will pull in the >> depends and is why they need to be in the same directory. >> -- >> Jimmy Johnson >> >> Ubuntu 16.04 LTS - KDE Plasma 5.8.7 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda5 >> Registered Linux User #380263 >> >> > > does not work that way here? > > # ls > apt-offline_1.7.2_all.deb python-magic_5.30-1+deb9u1_all.deb > # dpkg -i apt-offline_1.7.2_all.deb > Selecting previously unselected package apt-offline. > (Reading database ... 39715 files and directories currently installed.) > Preparing to unpack apt-offline_1.7.2_all.deb ... > Unpacking apt-offline (1.7.2) ... > dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of apt-offline: > apt-offline depends on python-magic; however: > Package python-magic is not installed. > > dpkg: error processing package apt-offline (--install): > dependency problems - leaving unconfigured > Processing triggers for man-db (2.7.6.1-2) ... > Errors were encountered while processing: > apt-offline I've never used apt-offline, it sounds like package gdebi, anyways the packages need to be available and in the same directory, but to fix the problem you describe is as simple as #dpkg -i (the missing package/s) once you have downloaded them and put them in the directory you are installing from. -- Jimmy Johnson Ubuntu 16.04 LTS - KDE Plasma 5.8.7 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda5 Registered Linux User #380263
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| From | Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> |
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| Date | 2017-10-09 11:30 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <uyCxQ-1E0-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #187754 |
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On Sun, Oct 08, 2017 at 04:57:13PM -0400, bw wrote:
>
>
>On Sun, 8 Oct 2017, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
>
>> On 10/08/2017 07:07 AM, Emanuel Berg wrote:
>> > Jimmy Johnson wrote:
>> >
>> > > You will need to download the depends too and
>> > > then cd to the directory that holds the files
>> > > and #dpkg -i (the package name) to install.
>> >
>> > OK. How should the depends be organized? I.e.,
>> > the dir structure?
>>
>> You should only need to install the one package and dpkg will pull in the
>> depends and is why they need to be in the same directory.
>> --
>> Jimmy Johnson
>>
>> Ubuntu 16.04 LTS - KDE Plasma 5.8.7 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda5
>> Registered Linux User #380263
>>
>>
>
>does not work that way here?
>
># ls
>apt-offline_1.7.2_all.deb python-magic_5.30-1+deb9u1_all.deb
># dpkg -i apt-offline_1.7.2_all.deb
>Selecting previously unselected package apt-offline.
>(Reading database ... 39715 files and directories currently installed.)
>Preparing to unpack apt-offline_1.7.2_all.deb ...
>Unpacking apt-offline (1.7.2) ...
>dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of apt-offline:
> apt-offline depends on python-magic; however:
> Package python-magic is not installed.
>
>dpkg: error processing package apt-offline (--install):
> dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
>Processing triggers for man-db (2.7.6.1-2) ...
>Errors were encountered while processing:
> apt-offline
>
In the man page for dpkg, it reads:
-i, --install package-file...
This is common shorthand to read "The --install option (alternatively
spelled '-i') must be followed by one *or more* arguments which will be
assigned to the variable package-file". Emphasis mine. The ellipsis at
the end states that the arguments can be repeated.
So, as has been stated dpkg won't pull in dependencies, but if you
already have the dependencies to hand, you can tell dpkg to install them
all and, as a bonus, it should work out which order to install them to
satisfy dependecies.
dpkg -i /path/to/apt-offline_1.7.2_all.deb /path/to/python-magic_5.30-1+deb9u1_all.deb
You can, of course, use any shell-shorthands that make sense such as:
dpkg -i /path/to/{apt-offline,python-magic}*.deb
dpkg -i /path/to/*.deb
etc.
--
For more information, please reread.
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| From | David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2017-10-09 02:30 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <uyu7g-4j2-7@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #187752 |
On Sun 08 Oct 2017 at 13:26:54 (-0700), Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> On 10/08/2017 07:07 AM, Emanuel Berg wrote:
> >Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> >
> >>You will need to download the depends too and
> >>then cd to the directory that holds the files
> >>and #dpkg -i (the package name) to install.
> >
> >OK. How should the depends be organized? I.e.,
> >the dir structure?
>
> You should only need to install the one package and dpkg will pull
> in the depends and is why they need to be in the same directory.
I've never seen dpkg pull in anything, and you can also give it
paths rather than filenames, ie
# dpkg -i /anywhere/foo.deb
it replies bar is not installed
# dpkg -i /anywhere/foo.deb /somewhere/else/bar.deb
and so on,
the poor man's dependency resolver.
Cheers,
David.
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| From | Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-10-09 07:50 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <uyz6V-7z3-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #187766 |
On 10/08/2017 05:29 PM, David Wright wrote: > On Sun 08 Oct 2017 at 13:26:54 (-0700), Jimmy Johnson wrote: >> On 10/08/2017 07:07 AM, Emanuel Berg wrote: >>> Jimmy Johnson wrote: >>> >>>> You will need to download the depends too and >>>> then cd to the directory that holds the files >>>> and #dpkg -i (the package name) to install. >>> >>> OK. How should the depends be organized? I.e., >>> the dir structure? >> >> You should only need to install the one package and dpkg will pull >> in the depends and is why they need to be in the same directory. > > I've never seen dpkg pull in anything, and you can also give it > paths rather than filenames, ie > # dpkg -i /anywhere/foo.deb > it replies bar is not installed > # dpkg -i /anywhere/foo.deb /somewhere/else/bar.deb > and so on, > the poor man's dependency resolver. Is there some kind of man page or something to explain what foo.deb is and or bar.deb is, because in my 20+ years googling or other ways I don't understand. If not I've been doing fine without knowing. I will say I probably got gdebi and dpkg -i mixed up, but I do know that #dpkg -i (package name) will install the package if you cd to the directory where the package is. But you are probably right, I just don't know what you're saying. To me bar is someplace where people go to talk about foo, I just don't go there so I'm not clear on what they are talking about, cause I don't go to bar, but give me a few shots of tequila and then you can take me to bar where I could probably talk your head off about foo and we can pretend we understand each other. -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Sid/Testing - KDE Plasma 5.10.5 - Intel i7-3540M - EXT4 at sda8 Registered Linux User #380263
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| From | anxiousmac@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2017-10-09 08:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <uyzTk-85k-11@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #187770 |
On Monday, 9 October 2017 06:50:03 UTC+1, Jimmy Johnson wrote: > > Is there some kind of man page or something to explain what foo.deb is > and or bar.deb is, because in my 20+ years googling or other ways I > don't understand. If not I've been doing fine without knowing. I will > say I probably got gdebi and dpkg -i mixed up, but I do know that #dpkg > -i (package name) will install the package if you cd to the directory > where the package is. But you are probably right, I just don't know > what you're saying. To me bar is someplace where people go to talk about > foo. Foo, bar and baz are metasyntactic variables, placeholders having similar functions to x and y in algebra. Wikipedia and The New Hackers Dictionary have good explanations and many further examples. See also FUBAR, but foo was in use before WW2.
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| From | Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-10-09 13:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <uyDWV-2oz-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #187771 |
On 10/08/2017 11:12 PM, anxiousmac@gmail.com wrote: > On Monday, 9 October 2017 06:50:03 UTC+1, Jimmy Johnson wrote: > >> >> Is there some kind of man page or something to explain what foo.deb is >> and or bar.deb is, because in my 20+ years googling or other ways I >> don't understand. If not I've been doing fine without knowing. I will >> say I probably got gdebi and dpkg -i mixed up, but I do know that #dpkg >> -i (package name) will install the package if you cd to the directory >> where the package is. But you are probably right, I just don't know >> what you're saying. To me bar is someplace where people go to talk about >> foo. > > Foo, bar and baz are metasyntactic variables, placeholders having similar functions to x and y in algebra. Wikipedia and The New Hackers Dictionary have good explanations and many further examples. See also FUBAR, but foo was in use before WW2. I did see the relationship with algebra. I have never thought to look for a definition of those words/code(foo, bar and baz are meta-syntactic variables). I do hope I never have to use them, but if the occasion comes, I will try and comprehend how it works, also the apt-offline thing too. Thank you. -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Stretch - KDE Plasma 5.8.6 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda6 Registered Linux User #380263
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| From | Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> |
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| Date | 2017-10-08 16:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <uykAV-6Dt-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #187731 |
Jimmy Johnson wrote: > You will need to download the depends too and > then cd to the directory that holds the files > and #dpkg -i (the package name) to install. Or do you mean install the depends the same way? I hope they don't depend on too much as well :) -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573
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| From | Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> |
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| Date | 2017-10-08 16:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <uykAV-6Dt-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #187731 |
Jimmy Johnson wrote: > You will need to download the depends too and > then cd to the directory that holds the files > and #dpkg -i (the package name) to install. Do I abort the OS installation to do this or do I "complete" it without network support and then patch it later? That probably makes for less "depends work"! However if I do it later, how do I run the network autoconf (that was supposed to happen as part of the OS installation) after everything is in place? -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573
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| From | Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> |
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| Date | 2017-10-08 16:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <uykUh-6Kj-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #187737 |
On 10/08/2017 09:14 AM, Emanuel Berg wrote: > Jimmy Johnson wrote: > >> You will need to download the depends too and >> then cd to the directory that holds the files >> and #dpkg -i (the package name) to install. > > Do I abort the OS installation to do this or do > I "complete" it without network support and > then patch it later? > > That probably makes for less "depends work"! > > However if I do it later, how do I run the > network autoconf (that was supposed to happen > as part of the OS installation) after > everything is in place? > I'm not familiar with non-free problems. However reading this thread that apt-offline maybe useful. https://manpages.debian.org/stretch/apt-offline/apt-offline.8.en.html
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| From | Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-10-08 23:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <uyqQ1-1TQ-11@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #187737 |
On 10/08/2017 07:14 AM, Emanuel Berg wrote: > Jimmy Johnson wrote: > >> You will need to download the depends too and >> then cd to the directory that holds the files >> and #dpkg -i (the package name) to install. > > Do I abort the OS installation to do this or do > I "complete" it without network support and > then patch it later? > > That probably makes for less "depends work"! > > However if I do it later, how do I run the > network autoconf (that was supposed to happen > as part of the OS installation) after > everything is in place? What I described is for after the install, but if you can point the installer to the files it may install the files for you and that sounds the easy way. If not install after. -- Jimmy Johnson Ubuntu 16.04 LTS - KDE Plasma 5.8.7 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda5 Registered Linux User #380263
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| From | Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> |
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| Date | 2017-10-08 16:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <uykhz-6hh-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #187720 |
Jimmy Johnson wrote: > https://packages.debian.org/stretch/firmware-b43-installer The installer (the Debian installer on the laptop) says I can insert a USB stick with the missing firmware to patch the installation. However it doesn't say in what form it should come. Just having the files on the USB stick didn't work. -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573
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| From | Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> |
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| Date | 2017-10-08 16:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <uykhA-6hh-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #187720 |
Jimmy Johnson wrote: > Is this what you are looking for: > https://packages.debian.org/stretch/firmware-b43-installer Can I download that package with another computer, install Debian without network support, bring the installer over, and manually install it without Internet? If so, how? -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573
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