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  Request of recommendations for public Mercurial repository hosting Mario Castelán Castro <marioxcc.MT@yandex.com> - 2017-09-17 19:10 +0200
    Re: Request of recommendations for public Mercurial repository  hosting Phil Dobbin <bukowskiscat@gmail.com> - 2017-09-17 21:00 +0200
      Re: Request of recommendations for public Mercurial repository  hosting Mario Castelán Castro <marioxcc.MT@yandex.com> - 2017-09-17 21:10 +0200
        Re: Request of recommendations for public Mercurial repository  hosting Phil Dobbin <bukowskiscat@gmail.com> - 2017-09-17 23:10 +0200
    Re: Request of recommendations for public Mercurial repository hosting John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2017-09-17 21:00 +0200
    Re: Request of recommendations for public Mercurial repository  hosting Mario Castelán Castro <marioxcc.MT@yandex.com> - 2017-09-17 21:20 +0200
      Re: Request of recommendations for public Mercurial repository hosting John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2017-09-17 22:30 +0200
      Re: Request of recommendations for public Mercurial repository hosting Sean Farley <sean@farley.io> - 2017-09-18 19:20 +0200
    Re: Request of recommendations for public Mercurial repository hosting Ben Finney <bignose@debian.org> - 2017-09-19 03:20 +0200

#186908 — Request of recommendations for public Mercurial repository hosting

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(Note: cross posted to Mercurial mailing list and debian-user mailing list)

Hello. I am looking for a place to host a small free software (as in
freedom) project. I write to ask for your recommendations.

There are a few requirements:

(1) A public Mercurial repository is required. Features like bug
trackers, private repositories and pull requests are irrelevant for my
use case[1].

(2) Hosting static web pages for the project would be good, but it is
not required.

(3) I highly mistrust and oppose Google (it is the big eye in the
Internet) so a necessary requirement is that there is no Google JavaScript.

(4) Users that block JavaScript must be able to at least see the
repository URI. Requiring JavaScript for the developers (me) is
acceptable, as long as it is not Google's.

My only candidate so far is Bitbucket. I want to know if there are other
options. I have already discarded SourceForge because it has Google JS.
All other providers that I know either are paid or do not offer
Mercurial. Unfortunately, most only offer Git.

Footnotes:

[1]: This is a one-man project and it is formally verified, so the
probability of bugs is nearly zero. In the event that anybody wants to
send a patch, it would be handled through e-mail (with “hg bundle”). I
never understood what is good about pull requests.

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#186910 — Re: Request of recommendations for public Mercurial repository hosting

On 17/09/17 18:04, Mario Castelán Castro wrote:

> (Note: cross posted to Mercurial mailing list and debian-user mailing list)
> 
> Hello. I am looking for a place to host a small free software (as in
> freedom) project. I write to ask for your recommendations.
> 
> There are a few requirements:
> 
> (1) A public Mercurial repository is required. Features like bug
> trackers, private repositories and pull requests are irrelevant for my
> use case[1].
> 
> (2) Hosting static web pages for the project would be good, but it is
> not required.
> 
> (3) I highly mistrust and oppose Google (it is the big eye in the
> Internet) so a necessary requirement is that there is no Google JavaScript.
> 
> (4) Users that block JavaScript must be able to at least see the
> repository URI. Requiring JavaScript for the developers (me) is
> acceptable, as long as it is not Google's.
> 
> My only candidate so far is Bitbucket. I want to know if there are other
> options. I have already discarded SourceForge because it has Google JS.
> All other providers that I know either are paid or do not offer
> Mercurial. Unfortunately, most only offer Git.
> 
> Footnotes:
> 
> [1]: This is a one-man project and it is formally verified, so the
> probability of bugs is nearly zero. In the event that anybody wants to
> send a patch, it would be handled through e-mail (with “hg bundle”). I
> never understood what is good about pull requests.
> 

GitHub meets all your requirements plus you can host a web site there
with their GitHub Pages option.

All free to use in your case :-)

Cheers,

  Phil.

-- 
"For 50 years it was like being chained to an idiot"
Kingsley Amis on his loss of libido when he turned fifty

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#186912 — Re: Request of recommendations for public Mercurial repository hosting

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On 17/09/17 13:52, Phil Dobbin wrote:
> GitHub meets all your requirements plus you can host a web site there
> with their GitHub Pages option.
> 
> All free to use in your case :-)

Please note that I am asking for *Mercurial* hosting.

Also, I watch disapprovingly as “source code hosting” increasingly
becomes a synonymous of “GitHub hosting” in the herd's mind. GitHub will
become (or maybe it is already) a single point of failure. It has a lot
of user data and the capability to introduce backdoors into a lot of
software, so it already a juicy target for government agencies. I
wouldn't host any own project on it even if I used Git for them.

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#186919 — Re: Request of recommendations for public Mercurial repository hosting

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On 17/09/17 20:00, Mario Castelán Castro wrote:

> On 17/09/17 13:52, Phil Dobbin wrote:
>> GitHub meets all your requirements plus you can host a web site there
>> with their GitHub Pages option.
>>
>> All free to use in your case :-)
> 
> Please note that I am asking for *Mercurial* hosting.
> 
> Also, I watch disapprovingly as “source code hosting” increasingly
> becomes a synonymous of “GitHub hosting” in the herd's mind. GitHub will
> become (or maybe it is already) a single point of failure. It has a lot
> of user data and the capability to introduce backdoors into a lot of
> software, so it already a juicy target for government agencies. I
> wouldn't host any own project on it even if I used Git for them.

Fair enough. Be sure to let us know if any of those suspicions come to pass.

Cheers,

  Phil.

-- 
"For 50 years it was like being chained to an idiot"
Kingsley Amis on his loss of libido when he turned fifty

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#186911

https://www.tuxfamily.org/en/about
-- 
John Hasler 
jhasler@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA

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#186913 — Re: Request of recommendations for public Mercurial repository hosting

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On 17/09/17 12:04, Mario Castelán Castro wrote:
> My only candidate so far is Bitbucket. I want to know if there are other
> options. I have already discarded SourceForge because it has Google JS.
> All other providers that I know either are paid or do not offer
> Mercurial. Unfortunately, most only offer Git.

I discovered that Bitbucket registration does not work with Google
JavaScript blocked, so it is no longer an option.

On the other hand, I found other options. Here is a list in case it it
useful to somebody else:

* Alioth <https://alioth.debian.org/>.
* GNU Savannah <https://savannah.gnu.org/>.
* OSDN <https://osdn.net/>.
* Ourproject <https://ourproject.org/>.

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#186915

I tried to work with Savannah when I was looking for hosting for the
Chrony project.  I gave up on them when they told me we would have to
rewrite our documentation to, among other things, replace all mentions
of "Linux" with "GNU/Linux".  I don't object to the "GNU/Linux" usage,
but I thought that was going way too far.

Tuxfamily, <https://www.tuxfamily.org/en/about> on the other hand, was
easy to deal with and the Chrony project is still there.  Tuxfamily
claims to support Mercurial.
-- 
John Hasler 
jhasler@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA

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#186960

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Mario Castelán Castro <marioxcc.MT@yandex.com> writes:

> On 17/09/17 12:04, Mario Castelán Castro wrote:
>> My only candidate so far is Bitbucket. I want to know if there are other
>> options. I have already discarded SourceForge because it has Google JS.
>> All other providers that I know either are paid or do not offer
>> Mercurial. Unfortunately, most only offer Git.
>
> I discovered that Bitbucket registration does not work with Google
> JavaScript blocked, so it is no longer an option.

Yeah, we use Google for captcha. I just tried to register a new account
by blocking analytics but allowing google ang gstatic. :shrug:

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#186985

Mario Castelán Castro <marioxcc.MT@yandex.com> writes:

> Hello. I am looking for a place to host a small free software (as in
> freedom) project. I write to ask for your recommendations.

The Kallithea project <URL:https://kallithea-scm.org/> produces an
entirely free-software VCS hosting system. Git and Mercurial are
supported.

I don't know of anywhere that runs a hosted Kallithea instance, but your
search now becomes easier: Instead of trying to find a host that
specifically runs a VCS with your (to my mind quite reasonable)
requireements, you can instead search for a web host where you can run
your own Kallithea instance.

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_o__)                                                                  |
Ben Finney

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